Nietzsche "The Birth of Tragedy”

[@matthiasstaber9216]

"Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the Angelic Orders? And even if one were to suddenly take me to its heart, I would vanish into its stronger existence. For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror, that we are still able to bear, and we revere it so, because it calmly disdains to destroy us. Every Angel is terror." Rilke beginning his Eulogies came to mind listening to you both. One of my favorite books by Nietzsche btw.

[@Todoriina]

Thanks for the lecture, pleasure to listening as always. I think that you missed one important quote from the book, aphorism 5 : “it is only as an aesthetic phenomenon that existence and the world are eternally justified.” That relate to the Heidegger’s “mood-in-the-world”. Greetings from Bulgaria ( ancient Thrace, Trachia ) , the first home of Dionysius! Because of historical reasons my country found itself throw in to the Soviet Union after the WWII, huge scientific researches product of decades of work, are unknown to the contemporary western culture, the same as Romanian and Serbian colleges, every thing from the antiquity is called wrongly “Greek”.

[@zappzapp00]

Thank you for this talk. We should never forget the tremendous importance of music for Nietzsche's thought. It seems to me that music serves as a bridge or a path to the profundity and depth of the eternal, a task that only great pieces of music can achieve, of course; most pieces of modern music certainly won't. Just as Zarathustra spoke that all pleasure yearns for eternity ("... alle Lust will Ewigkeit, will tiefe, tiefe Ewigkeit"), the wonderful symphony "The song from the earth" ("Das Lied von der Erde") from Gustav Mahler ends with the opera singer singing "ewig" (eternal) repeatedly many times, before the music and the words float away into eternity. Every time I listen to this piece, I feel that I understood what Nietzsche means with the words from Zarathustra from before. I would highly recommend everyone who sees this to take some time off for "idleness in dignity" and to listen to some great music, which has almost disappeared in our age where so many music pieces are just noisy and beat-intensive. I believe it really helps as complementary action to reading Nietzsche.

[@SAMZIRRA]

"Most pieces of modern music certainly won't."? Everyone has their own vibration, and some music allows them to feel it. New or old. Good or Bad. Wouldn't it be a shame, to tell someone all things on one side are bad, so they never explore further or ask questions?

[@daftsutradesign1318]

Of course. I think Nietzsche should have been looking to Beethoven rather than Wagner when basing his philosophy around the theme of music and finding appropriate artists. Though perhaps he considered Beethoven too romantic for his tastes; I still think he's closer to the mark than Wagner, much more of a genius.

[@VVeltanschauung187]

@@SAMZIRRA Time is the ultimate quality control. And over the last 1,500 years, certain pieces of music have passed that test. There's a reason we still listen to some composers centuries after they've died. Classical music represents the best of the best.

[@82472tclt]

That was ready great!

[@omarhansali4770]

Thank you for the enlightening content. I have enjoyed the discussion...

[@JohannesNiederhauser]

Omar Hansali thank you!

[@msmelanie.]

Fantastic! 👌

[@JohannesNiederhauser]

Thank you!

[@JuanRodriguez-tr6st]

Who should I read that’s a contemporary to neitzche? Or any recent books that’s expands on his ideas?

[@intoxicatedmooneyes]

Juan Rodriguez not recent but alan watts is good. Also I liked the book Quentin Tarantino and philosophy

[@minhnhatnguyen7908]

@@intoxicatedmooneyes awful recommendation

[@minhnhatnguyen7908]

Max Stirner and Arthur Schopenhauer

[@threeblindchickens]

@@intoxicatedmooneyes Alan Watts didnt understand philosophy

[@johnschmitt3083]

Is there a Podcast RSS feed for the channel? really no sense in listening to voice without any video with information on youtube

[@82472tclt]

I've been looking for some tragedy! Will you be covering how to get pregnant with it first or did I miss that video?

[@82472tclt]

;-)

[@vedanshvedansh844]

You dont get "pregnant" with something, in the sense you attempeted to employ it. It is something, and not someone, which it is hinted is "pregnant with". E.g. He wore a look on his face pregnant with denial. Her voice was pregnant with hesitation. He spoke in a manner pregnant with disdain that it earned him this bad reputation.