NIGHTMARE TIME 2, Ep1: Honey Queen

[@kaitealattes]

lauren giving birth to essentially 4 dracos is just so funny to me

[@driftwood_ride_the_cyclone]

this comment is incredibly funny to me

[@sirlilius]

Soon they'll be sent to Pigfarts

[@radvelvetcakez]

The reply above me is insanely funny to me

[@WrenRemm]

The reply above to the reply to the comment is inconceivably funny to me

[@luvtortyz2177]

it’s also funny bc lauren played draco in a very potter musical

[@scrimblocoded]

I love that almost no lord in black shenanigans happen until the very end in this one, I adore the lords in black as villains but something about Linda and Zoey just inherently BEING that fucking twisted is really funny

[@Theo-gu2tk]

Yeah and it makes for awesome drama!

[@purp4168]

I love the LiB, but I also love when the characters don't need them to be evil, and exploring the other unrelated beings too, which is something I've loved with Nightmare Time

[@WitchLunaEstrella]

I love that here we see that Gerald is an enabler not because he's too weak-willed to say no, but because he's also terrible and the toxicity is what he loves about her. He probably knows about her "wrestling" with the tennis coach and he doesn't even care about it.

[@purp4168]

​@NotSoRealEllis2004Yeah, he radiates cuck (but cuck in a sinister, manipulative way)

[@ryantalley5284]

​@@purp4168I don't think "a cuck but in a sinister manipulative way" is a thing that exists

[@ShayMoonsilk]

I love how morally bankrupt both Zoey and Linda are. When Linda goes "which kid do you have?" Zoey doesnt get disgusted, just goes "oh let me check" XD What a great duo

[@hi_there1239]

dylan saunders being unable to NOT play a wife guy is my fave thing

[@rebeccamiller1400]

There's that time he was a giant scorpion (Pincer), but that's the only one that comes to mind, plus he also totally fell in love with Megagirl in that one. Man has a type, and I love it

[@Lunarwilliams8367]

​@@rebeccamiller1400 the best part is that was the same musical

[@Yviene311]

Idk I think Dumbledore was decidedly not a wife guy lol

[@hi_there1239]

@@Yviene311 admittedly that one slipped my mind lmao

[@referenceslut7529]

Pretty sure Snape was his wife

[@lailazarrabiyan3093]

Gerald is somehow the MVP of husbands, but specifically for villianesses. This is so confusing, yet I'm cheering this man on. How?

[@lowkeyproductions6681]

“You’re talking to a girl who only needs two roommates now” is the realest line Starkid has ever dropped

[@BEE-oz7yd]

Oh God! That line so real!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@amareyez8791]

the best/worst part is that linda and zoe would literally just do this even without nibbly’s influence

[@genericname2747]

The real horror is humanity

[@RozehKakes]

wrote this on another comment but feel its related here hehe ​​@Floweramon I wonder if Nibbly has that similar ability to control citizens of Hatchetfield as the other lords in black Like Pokey eventually overtakes Paul, or Wiggly's ability to worm into hundreds of thousands of people (including the Oval Office, across the US, and apparently in Russia based on his comment about their portal) perhaps Nibbly too saw Linda and Zoey, hell maybe all the other women, who probably never initially thought they wanted to try and participate, but soon made them covet the Honey Queen title, all of them badly enough to abandon everything else and turn to all the cruelest, most blood thirsty means. all for Nibbly's enjoyment, his feast...

[@RozehKakes]

but thats also a rly fucked up, funny idea too both of them so cruel they'd do it to each other or any of the other Hatchetfield ladies to get what they want 😅

[@xxgirl101xx]

@@RozehKakeshonestly I don’t think so. Nibbly doesn’t seem that… complex. He lacks the big plans of Pokey or Wiggly, or the complex sadism of Tinky and Blinky. He’s more like a giant mouth that waits for food to be tossed in to it. He just wants to eat. Plus the point is that the sacrifices are ALREADY like that because Nibbly thinks they’re tastier. The competition might be used to figure out who is the “hungriest” or bring it out of the girls by putting them under pressure, but I honestly feel Nibbly’s influence is minimal beyond what his cultists are willing to encourage in the Hatchetfield population in order to get good sacrifices.

[@roseflood1612]

I love how in Black Friday Gerald is implied to be weak and pathetic, but here we find out that he's just as awful as Linda, he just doesn't care enough to get too mixed up in her nonsense.

[@bensayal]

Joe's ability to come across as a teen, adult office worker, or affluent grandpa on a whim is impressive

[@allisonbergh4429]

And he’s a master at quick character changes! I’d love to see him do a one-man show, any show!

[@aeroh790]

whos joe ? are you talking about jon ? (genuine question)

[@doofy67]

Joey probably

[@doofy67]

OK maybe it is Jon because he plays a grandpa 😅

[@plastikrappavevo4786]

​@@allisonbergh4429 may I direct you to a little show called Jon Matteson: Jon Matteson?

[@viperv6768]

I didn't expect Gerald to be so antagonistic. I thought he'd be a weak, kind, pushover who married the wrong woman, but no, he's got a mean streak.

[@themoviecritic1092]

That's what I'm saying. Completely subverted my expectations

[@viperv6768]

@@themoviecritic1092 seriously! In Black Friday he cried when he heard Linda talking mean. He seemed so submissive and sensitive. Now he's willing to ruin lives with glee. A total switch... and honestly, I love both versions for different reasons!

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

@@viperv6768 to be fair, we only ever heard her end of the conversation, and if we were to take only her side of the conversation from this work, we’d pretty much get the same idea. (Like, she very well could respond to any range of objections with “stop crying, Gerald”)

[@paultidd]

This is what he's like when he doesn't get his Cinnabon.

[@B1998-u6i]

No, fr. Black Friday is so much more interesting now that we know how much Gerald unashamedly adores Linda (not to mention River being her favorite and her snapping he can go pee like a man, like WHAT). It makes it so much more tragic if you consider all the stuff about joining her and all might have been trying to talk her down into leaving. It's like 5 times more tragic now.

[@WielkaAutorkaaD]

If they were looking for a woman who "best embodies the spirit of Hatchetfield" Linda honestly deserves to be the winner - she's the one to represent how fucked up this town is. Of course that's exactly why we love it!

[@BEE-oz7yd]

YES!!! Why is everyone still talking about as it feels like it's some Backwater place where nothing happens literally every other person seems to have some kind of secret conspiracy going on! Linda is literally the embodiment of that!

[@clanso7887]

Oh my gosh I know right?

[@builtstructure]

this is very true

[@buggart]

Linda: I KNOW THAT!

[@readingginbed]

i really didn't expect linda and gerald to have a very healthy marriage? or you know, as healthy as two toxic people can have. i love how much they genuinely love each other!!! i expected gerald to be a weak pushover who hates his life and his wife but he loves her SO MUCH and is so goddamn supportive. and for as narcissistic as she is, she really seems to love him too.

[@purp4168]

They have a very scewed form of wholesomeness, and I love it

[@brandontsosie4514]

From what I have seen with different realities this Gerald is the most headstrong and stubborn one while the others aren't.

[@SilasTepper]

"The winner is: ~oh thank god~ Linda Monroe!" My god, I am dying

[@Ryko175]

I’m honestly surprised how supportive Sam was to Zoe, I mean he literally MURDERED an old lady for her.

[@Ryko175]

Ok and he kidnapped a boy and got crushed for her, Damon he was committed to his sidepiece more than his wife.

[@iantophernicus6042]

I mean, he just thought she could use a good rest and so he gave her a helping hand..

[@hufflepufflez3293]

Honestly? Linda really could've just said "fuck Clivesdale" into the mic and won. No controversy needed!

[@inkfae9916]

Honestly, at this point Hatchetfields hate for Clivesdale is supernatural. I wonder what they did

[@possums154]

@@inkfae9916 probably just existed

[@mayaduvall2607]

The cashier said something about chemists right? Maybe that has something to do with it

[@brennawenger4091]

@@mayaduvall2607 I imagine thats the town/school mascot

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

There's gotta be some history with that town. What the hell makes everyone hate that town so much? XD

[@wizardgod4325]

Linda telling professor hidgens she'll fund his musical if he helps her and him immediately being like YES is so funny to me

[@scrambled_eggo]

the absolute speed at which he disregards the integrity of the pageant is hilarious lmao, the guy really loves his musical

[@wizardgod4325]

@@scrambled_eggo ikr. He'd give up anything for workin boys

[@SmudgedSketch]

Hey, mans got his priorities

[@anobservatory4227]

​@@SmudgedSketch They might not be good priorities but they're priorities none the less.

[@spookysplatt]

⁠@@SmudgedSketchALL he wants to do is spend the day with Greg and Steve and Stu and Mark and Leighton and Chad

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

Love how, in any universe, Linda is destined to be the unlikely but semi-willing, well-worshipped conduit of an eldritch god

[@Art_museum28]

Not just an eldritch god, a lord in black

[@Xhalph]

It's inevitable.

[@sagegreeeeeeen]

And Paul says “f*** ‘‘em straight to hell”

[@tracymichelle2624]

I mean her father is one of the people that summon them so i feel like he might have given her to them as a sacrifice (like her soul in any universe) to use how they please which is why shes always drawn to them. I also think shes more like her father than she thinks 😂

[@aleynaozkan433]

Gerald was about to die and texting Linda everything's okay is adorable. They were perfect for each other.

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

How am I shipping them now???

[@GhostW1thTheMost]

Linda cheated on him though

[@adamdavis1648]

​@@GhostW1thTheMost Where is that mentioned?

[@GhostW1thTheMost]

@@adamdavis1648 "secrets? Like how mommy wrestled the tennis coach?" Also, in the musical black friday its said that only 1 of her children is from gerald(i think). Probably why she loves river so much.

[@adamdavis1648]

@@GhostW1thTheMost Thanks; I'd forgotten about those.

[@toasterbomber1037]

I just love Linda and Gerald's dynamic. They are two awful people who are perfect for one another, kind of like the Thénardiers from Les Miserables.

[@shillinhite3911]

I'm glad we got an expansion of their dynamic from what we saw in Black Friday. I initially read Linda's treatment of Gerald as abusive in that musical, but now I think I was wrong about that and they're just kinda into each other being the terrible people they love XD

[@reyb.7918]

@@shillinhite3911 Same I thought Gerald was as sweat as a Cinnabon, but he’s just as awful as his wife. And, he’s kinda into her talking down to him. At least he cares about his kids.

[@lamarlatrell5045]

they are great example of an antihero

[@FacuuVizcarra]

My new favorite starkid couple

[@TheCannoliChronicles]

I don't know why i'm just seeing this comment now. But it couldn't be anymore correct. Coming from someone who's played Madame Thernadier twice in their life time. Oh my gosh, oh wow this couldn't be more correct and has me hysterical laughing all at the same time. SO TRUE.

[@thunder-san1377]

Linda's song is giving Drag Race challenge in the best way. The unearned confidence, the minimal movement, the character is just done so well.

[@milkcan1223]

HELP ! why is she giving girl group challenge/rumix verse for real? i love this comparison.

[@thunder-san1377]

"What's the tea, honeybees? For this week's maxi challenge, you will be writing, recording and starring in the music video for my new hit single "queen bee-atch"!"

[@RozehKakes]

it literally looks like s15 and i adoreeee

[@HomoAlone1]

Linda Monroe is basically Draco Malfoy in drag when you think about it

[@doofy67]

Facts

[@Deelusi]

Gerald is a masochist, sociopath and a good husband...so perfect for Linda 😭 definitely an OTP.

[@shillinhite3911]

it was the "You can cheat for yourself" line that made me realize that yes, these people are well matched XD

[@BEE-oz7yd]

@@shillinhite3911 just like she cheated on Gerald multiple times!!!

[@honeycomb690]

@@BEE-oz7yd after watching this, I think he's into it

[@AFruityPhrog]

I’m sobbing think about River. Bro just got kidnapped, saw his dad die and was told his mum disappeared. Im so sad.

[@Siennarchist]

If its any comfort, river was stuck in a car, and sam had to follow a decently long trail of blood to get to where the main hubby/boyfriend confrontation happened. River likely heard a crash and gunshots, maybe sounds of pain, but unless things lined up quite specifically he probably didn't see it happen.

[@Lizzy-hl3jd]

The comeback of the Draco Malfoy wig I'm sobbing Also Nick's rendition of Professor Hidgens is so good 1000/10

[@ThatDudeWithBoobs]

Rewatching through these for NPMD, I honestly got the feeling that Nick could've easily become a Hidgens if he was just a bit more eccentric 😂

[@ronibaron3353]

I wanna see Linda in a flashback as a little girl with the Draco wig

[@sagegreeeeeeen]

Yea but I miss Robert 😭

[@blake2521]

⁠@@sagegreeeeeeenRobert did it to himself. He chose to sexually harass a crew member and even when they offered for him to mentally improve and come back when he’s ready he blew it by bad mouthing starkid.

[@sagegreeeeeeen]

@@blake2521 HE DID WHAT

[@aaronjimenez7825]

But we still don't know the most important question: Why did Gerald have a restraining order filed against him by Cinnabon?

[@heyyo1513]

I think Nick established that it’s not a restraining order, it’s because Linda is a control freak and wants to control his weight.

[@LENNARD2ns]

He likes sweets, and Linda put him on a diet

[@shillinhite3911]

I like to think there was some sort of incident he was involved with there XD

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

Omg, I also thought there was some weird pervy Cinnabon incident that happened. It makes me sympathize a little, I too have an unhealthy addiction to Cinnabon lol.

[@enviisyk]

he eated them all :(

[@underscorejude]

Jae as the clerk is so goddamn funny. ONCE A CHEMIST, ALWAYS A CHEMIST

[@matsvee6746]

I'll be honest, I only got that joke on this rewatch, post-NPMD.

[@chiachimariachi4682]

“You gonna cry, boomer?” “You gonna cry, zoomer?” *YOU GUYS ARE BOTH MILLENNIALS 💀💀💀*

[@EShravyaa]

Zoey, the character is 23 so she is gen z

[@abigailzimmerman6573]

Wow! If I had a nickel for every time a Monroe led a cult in worship of a dark god from the Black and White, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. Right?

[@Vrglab]

Right

[@IdontKnow-km7tf]

Appreciate the phineas and ferb reference

[@adamdavis1648]

I think it's clear by now that this family is seriously screwed up.

[@Otisboy121]

@@adamdavis1648 yah think?!

[@solarprogeny6736]

@@IdontKnow-km7tf it's really just a meme at this point, not a reference

[@pixiedustreactions9413]

I love how it has 4 blonde boys. with three of them wearing them wigs and then there's Jeff lmao

[@thepunkmuppet]

damn, gerald is a lot less pathetic and useless than Black Friday makes him out to be. “stop crying gerald” is a line I can never listen to in the same way again because i straight up cannot imagine this man crying lmao

[@abigailpulliam6996]

Maybe he was laughing and Linda can't tell the difference lol

[@GHOZTSHXRKZ]

@@abigailpulliam6996i think it’s more likely that she just exaggerated his reaction and he wasn’t actually crying, just like “why would you say that to me” lol. she is the type to label any negative reaction to her meanness as crying lol

[@alexandersean4708]

​@@GHOZTSHXRKZ Even better, he was TRYING to say "Why would you say that" and pretend to be a decent person in case someone was listening in, but couldn't stop himself from laughing, so Linda thought he was crying.

[@GHOZTSHXRKZ]

@@alexandersean4708 I like this interpretation

[@MrDemonWorm]

These stories take place in a multiverse, so maybe it's just "Black Friday" version that cries.

[@Alice-lx4ml]

Honestly Linda could've texted Sam as Zoey and said that Linda had dropped out and to free River, but while she's calculating, her bloodlust takes priority over logic.

[@cgarcia3614]

Omg so true

[@Floweramon]

She also could've paid off Zoey and avoided the whole thing.

[@RozehKakes]

​@@Floweramon I wonder if Nibbly has that similar ability to control citizens of Hatchetfield as the other lords in black Like Pokey eventually overtakes Paul, or Wiggly's ability to worm into hundreds of thousands of people (including the Oval Office, across the US, and apparently in Russia based on his comment about their portal) perhaps Nibbly too saw Linda and Zoey, hell maybe all the other women, who probably never initially thought they wanted to try and participate, but soon made them covet the Honey Queen title, all of them badly enough to abandon everything else and turn to all the cruelest, most blood thirsty means. all for Nibbly's enjoyment, his feast...

[@fandomcringebucket]

​@@FloweramonExactly! While I get that Linda is cruel first and foremost, it would have been the fastest way to get Zoey out of town because of how materialistic and vain Zoey is. Granted, Zoey also wanted to be Honey Queen so she could trend, but I personally think she probably would have taken any bribe and fucked off.

[@prowmar_hs8933]

I wasn’t ready to see Corry, James, and Curt in all very blonde wigs lmao

[@aboredguywithaninternetcon4663]

Jeff's acting when Sam kidnaps River really reminds me of... *checks writing on hand* Aladdin.

[@crispyliza7050]

Lmaooo

[@juliamary7047]

Gerald is just- they made him perfect. He's such a supportive husband, and is literally helping his wife in her illegal activities aa! Minor Spoiler Literally- He says the moment he fell in love with her was when he sabotaged a skier and possibly killed her???

[@Visplight]

Yeah, he likes being mean but is too mild for direct confrontation (most of the time) so he's perfectly matched to be a minion for whatever crazy shit Linda does.

[@AbisexualCarpenter]

Dont be scared, I’m a cop- this line should be on a horror movie

[@philippinevlogsandgamingpl7671]

Well StarKid did it. This may not be a movie but it's still something.

[@Maker_Az_Is]

I've got to say the way the story is woven is so dense. Every other line seems to come back in some way later. Recent Starkid has been a masterclass in effective use of foreshadowing in the horror/thriller/mystery genre. Loving every minute and every song.

[@abbieuniverse8934]

Same.

[@tuttiman55]

Honestly one line that flew over my head is when Roman said to Gerald “and Linda will get no special treatment from me” which when you know how it ends he’s basically saying if she wins then I can’t save her, it makes it so much deeper for their characters

[@radiocoffee7700]

The best jokes imo: the first Paul Mathews cameo caught me so off guard, so fuckin funny "But I moved here ten years ago!" perfect

[@cara-carabowditbowdit]

when was the first paul cameo?

[@ollietheferalenby4888]

​@@cara-carabowditbowdit he was the grandpa (i forgot his name)

[@foundawayout5622]

@@cara-carabowditbowditi know this was a year ago but 42:37 (searching for the timestamp made me realise that cameo is the most replayed part of the video lmao)

[@leahelena7938]

This seems like the kind of event Paul would pay to miss out on 😭

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

It's practically a musical with the singing talents lol.

[@BEE-oz7yd]

Well judging by the fact that on the outside the contest seems to only exists to have a bunch women talk about how shity clivesdale is, his presence doesn't surprise me! XD

[@ice_wolfie]

but he’s here!

[@ItsFai]

Either thats not the real Paul or he's wears earplugs if music starts playing, he only clapped because everyone else did

[@DrinzenDrawz]

Yeah it seemed somewhat ooc that he was willing to tip aswell since he hates singing/musicals lmao, same with the contest but it seems funny to think the only reason he is there is to hear women shit on clivesdale

[@aloyminimum]

“Youre talking to a girl who needs only two roommates now” 10/10

[@Anonymous_Individual]

“I’m gonna buy a switch, bitch!”

[@lamaaaay1301]

Honestly so glad I live in a university city and am thus able to live at home while attending school. Because as much as it kinda sucks that I don't get that live on your own in university experience what doesn't suck is not having to deal with the current price to rent, mixed with a job that tries to get away with barely paying minimum wage, and university tuition.

[@catblue6401]

that part was kind of sad

[@totallyawesome7768]

Love the musical theme of "Cup of poisened coffee" when Zoe comes in

[@guywith_dog]

leitmotif is the word you want, it's so cool there's a word for it

[@mickys8065]

@@guywith_dog almost every established character has a leitmotif with starkid and I love it so much!

[@emalaw1329]

"Hey Mr. Business, how do you do?"

[@ReanniexXx]

Linda's music video was the PERFECT embodiment of when a 'Real Housewife' decides to start a music career, ABSOLUTELY INSPIRED.

[@cutiepuppy4427]

🎵The ring didn’t mean a thingggggg🎵

[@Diamondgamervideos]

"I'll kick his ass, you kick hers. Love you" starting to think they might be the ideal couple

[@dravenrogers7040]

I love how basically this whole episode is taking two groups of antagonist of characters from two of their musicals and putting them against each other this is some Lex Luthor versus Joker stuff

[@kyler133]

Lauren's physical acting is so impressive within the confines of this presentation

[@purp4168]

I'm living for how Linda, Gerald and River are surprisingly healthy as a family

[@TheCannoliChronicles]

To watch Jae merely a year before this during the Pandemic when we were under the same roof for the first time in a decade be so excited to share Starkid with me and show me Twisted, Black Friday, Trails to Oregon, holy musical batman, and just so many others, and speak to me so much about how much all of these incredibly talented and just incredible people have always brought them so much laughter, joy, and light to their life, discovering them many years prior and then a year later be seeing Jae amongst the people one year before we spoke so heavily about is one of the coolest things as their sister that I have ever bared witness to. Couldn't be prouder of them. Couldn't be anymore inspired by all of these artists and to see Jae amongst this beautiful group, someone since I was young have always considered one of thee most incredible artists i've ever known will forever be a trip and a half.

[@starkid]

We're so lucky and thankful to have Jae on the team. Can't wait for everyone to see them shine next week in 'Perky's Buds!'

[@oliveuh273]

this is so sweet oh my gosh, i’m sending lots of happiness to both of y’all!!

[@beatricefox937]

That’s such an amazing story, congratulations! I can’t wait to see more of them in StarKid productions

[@dreamwolf3218]

Jae was the best part of Perky Buds by far. So happy that their apart of Team Starkid!

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

I can't wait to see more from them!

[@charliemar5872]

I have to say. Linda and Jerald. Despite being super toxic. Are such a sweet couple.

[@shillinhite3911]

Horrible people, excellent team XD

[@RiverStone64]

Gives me Morticia and Gomez vibes dark in some ways but super wholesome relationship

[@irocupio]

The one constant in every version of the Hatchedfield universe is that Proffesor Hidgens never gets to produce his fucking musical

[@genericname2747]

Someone help him

[@jefferycrouse4652]

Not anymore. He got to make it in working boys

[@jwwatches]

I did not expect Linda to come out with a legendary rap performance, she wouldn't have to cheat and lie if she just put out albums. Favorite bad guy, love to hate her for sure.

[@Tamora1300]

Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Henry in the average Hatchetfield story: *plots revenge immediately because someone disagreed with him*

[@omnivorouscorvid]

Are we not gonna talk about how Nick killed it as Henry Higgins? Like can we appreciate for a moment? Not sure where Robert was, and don't get me wrong, love him, but kudos to Nick for bringing this guy back in style!

[@emalaw1329]

5 months passed, so idk if you found out about this on your own, but Robert was essentially suspended from the team for sexual misconduct (sent unrequited advances and pics to a bunch of co-stars), in fall 2021. They said he would be discussing his past and future behavior w/ HR, and the classic "he'll take time off to work on himself" spiel was delivered by whoever was speaking for the team at the time (I seem to remember one of his roommates, Nick or Jon), but since we're nearing 2023 and no news about his return was heard, it's not looking good.

[@kimd7835]

@@emalaw1329 I thought it was one person who had been a band member for Starkid in the past? And he'd stopped the advances as soon he was told the person was uncomfortable, apologized, and only stepped away from Nightmare Time 2 specifically. That doesn't make breaking workplace boundaries okay, but there's no need to give an inaccurate version of the story.

[@emalaw1329]

@@kimd7835 ok yeah my bad, the colleague he texted was just one, I guess my memory was warped by the fact that the statement on the Wiki concludes with "rebuilding trust w/ his colleagues", where the word is plural. I've seen nothing written about it being a band member. Yes, it also says he's stepping away from Nightmare Time 2 specifically, but the thing is, we haven't seen him back on any recent Starkid stream (despite him sharing living quarters w/ 2 members that appeared on all of them), he wasn't announced as part of any of the new projects coming out, and he's also not playing Pete Spankoffski in NPMD despite it being a character he originated. That makes me think his hiatus is extending beyond Nightmare Time 2.

[@carnagecandycos]

@@emalaw1329he was in solve it squad

[@jxnx19]

@@emalaw1329he did a tiktok live stream and talked shit about a bunch of starkids lol. he’s not coming back

[@andrewi.crocker8675]

Does anybody else want to see a side story about the children of Hatchetfield Elementary? Like, with Tim, Hannah, and the Monroe Boys?

[@dysenteryworld]

hannah's in high school now lol, she's 15 in this season

[@AlexGoldhill]

Bold of you to assume that Linda would lower herself to sending her children to a common public school with all the poor kids. Well, maybe Seaton.

[@Draztikus]

@@AlexGoldhill the poor kids go to Sycamore

[@ingeborgthingvold6430]

@@Draztikusfucking timberwolfs

[@Anonymous_Individual]

@@Draztikusfucking timber wolves! We hate those guys.

[@spooky42424]

I actually felt really bad for Zoey. She was desperate for a chance to change her life, and she thought she had to be a bad person to do it

[@BEE-oz7yd]

Bitch exposed her gay brother to get him out of Grandma's will and then proceeded to kill her! I didn't feel bad for her.

[@dysenteryworld]

she outed her brother, was fine with sam killing her grandmother, and helped kidnap a black kid.. k

[@anonymouswind1]

I never thought I'd root for Linda but....damn I know she did some underhanded tactics but all her victims were pretty much physically unharmed, or not in real harms way. Also I love her and Gerald's relationship. A little twisted but sweet.

[@lemonace6695]

I can't belive I'm saying that but I stan Gerald Monroe. He is an awfull person and a mediocre dad but he is such a good husband, I loved everything about him soo much.

[@ferl.r733]

I know Linda and Jerald are as also bad people but there is something heartwarming to see two terrible people willing to deal and support each other.

[@kirrahasariddle]

rewatching the nightmare time episodes after nerdy prudes has me screaming, THE REFERENCES! THE LORE! THE IMPLICATIONS!

[@toxicdemon1315]

OH GOD, _THE IMPLICATIONS_

[@ahsokatano9101]

@@toxicdemon1315 WE DIDNT CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS

[@klleptic]

I just gotta say I adored Nicks portrayal of Prof. Hidgens

[@dawngrove7053]

Normally I hate when a show does a festival/prom/beauty queen episode for how formulaic it is with the "Two girls want to be queen of event, they spend the episode behaving like petty bitches to each other even if it's OOC but then learn a lesson that being queen isn't important, blah, blah, blah." But I think that's why I LOVE the dark tone Nightmare Time takes to it, helps that it's in character for the two main female leads to behave this way, and the twist in the ending was so chilling and disturbing I absolutely loved every second of it! Honestly I just love how this was mostly a Hatchetfield Antagonist Battle Royal. Also Nick makes an excellent Hidgens. There's more I could gush about this episode but I don't want to get too spoilery for the viewers that haven't finished watching it.😁♥️

[@LokiMartin-i6s]

It feels so Tales from the Crypt. I love it!

[@britnicox3929]

I never thought I’d be rooting for Linda! I loved her and Gerald in this. Unironically a perfect couple Also she’s supposed to be a bad person but a some of the things that she did to get rid of people (besides Zoey) were beneficial to them - one girl even got an all expenses paid trip on the biggest luxury yacht and another one seemed have been given the job opportunity they were rooting for. She may be awful but she gives some people good things as a treat

[@Fenrir502]

Spoilers below Ending could have been worse - rather than the pigs eating her, I thought it was leading to her being Nibbly's vessel and eating the rotten pigs to sate its hunger.

[@magnificloud]

Same!

[@thejellyfinn]

OMG SAME although i wouldn’t hate it??

[@inkfae9916]

yeah, i was expecting her to be the vessel, but the ending still worked i suppose

[@randonn_nes2181]

Does anyone else feel like nibbly is in some way related to the monster in Black Friday. Like the costumes for the singers are the same and they have ridiculous names compared to their power

[@Gking10]

@@randonn_nes2181 Did you not watch the episodes of Nightmare Time 1?

[@thisurldoesnotexist]

It's scary that Linda and Gerald are actually perfect for each other

[@justsomeferalminor]

"Adore me" playing in the background when Linda has a moment and "Cup of roasted/poison coffee" when Zoey does is such a good touch.

[@marshall2858]

I can't believe team StarKid made me like Linda Monroe, even briefly

[@PS-dm1dq]

I dunno about liking her, but it certainly made me pity her :(

[@marshall2858]

@@PS-dm1dq Yeah, they're really good at taking background characters and making them compelling/tragic, like Ted, or Bill and Alice. (But also I was genuinely rooting for Linda to win until I realized what was going to happen to her afterwards.)

[@angelmars0087]

I love how Paul hates Clivesdale as much as the nighthawks even though hes a timberwolf, tho it's possible they have a rivalry at sycamore too

[@crispyliza7050]

Sycamore is still in Hatchetfield so as a citizen of the town he has an obligation or even a biological need to hate Clivesdale 😂

[@pinkwormholes5554]

The fact Gerald isn't going to get to hear that voice mail makes me want to sob

[@thatdisabledprincess]

1:17:05 Small spoiler I cried because Gerald would've been so proud of Linda. He's just as cruel a person as she is, but he's a supportive husband. (My glasses need a bit of cleaning after that.)

[@spiritlaw]

Even though they're both pieces of absolute shit- I definitely think Gerald's Ghost heard Linda thank him on the Highway to Hell.

[@stylox1253]

That part unexpectedly gave me a little teary as well :')

[@karabernard5722]

Nick was very funny as Henry Hidgens ! I loved Mariah’s sass. Lauren was terrifying

[@bethanyscarbrough3416]

Competitive people, and scorpions that don't want to be eaten. The two things Lauren Lopez respects.

[@shillinhite3911]

And people who can teach her calculus -- THAT WAS TOUGH!

[@ciara7056]

Alternate title: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss.

[@yeshevishman]

Slight spoiler . . . . Anyone else notice that the animals that are mentioned "coming alive" in the forest are a nighthawk and a timber wolf, which are the Hatchetfield and Clivesdale mascots? That's just genius writing!!!

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

Nah nah timber wolves are from Sycamore. I think that's a second high school in Hatchetfield cuz no way Paul went to school in Clivesdale.

[@yeshevishman]

@@valdoxtheunmerciful ur right. It's still good writing though.

[@LincTheLog]

I’ve noticed that a couple of times, there are so many references!!!!!

[@Jellybeansatdusk]

Clivesdale Chemists actually

[@yeshevishman]

@@Jellybeansatdusk Well I didn't know that back then. I honestly forgot about this theory. XD

[@oliviamads]

I really loved everyone in this! Linda and her husband were a gift, Zoey was an ass, and Sam was just there!

[@whyamihere5977]

and he was a cop, don’t forget that

[@juneflwrs]

for people like myself who want to relive the music videos over and over again, here are the timestamps! 0:00:00 nightmare time 0:03:31 honey queen 0:41:24 latte hatte 1:00:53 queen b 1:25:29 the nibbly ditty

[@pandoamessi4079]

Thank wiggly someone did this! Really appreciate it🙏 It's 4 am and I'm about to break into dancing and singing in the kitchen 😂

[@leahelena7938]

Thank you!!

[@pink-mo9kw]

Thanks latte hotte has stuck in my head

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

The bit at the end of latte hatte had me laughing so hard

[@greythomas6199]

thank you i have been using the videos while i wait for the songs to be on spotify in the uk

[@februaryschneck]

Y’all are simply not ready for the majesty that is Gerald and River Monroe. This whole episode is amazing and I love it but Gerald takes the cake as best Hatchetfield Hubby (not daddy.. hubby)

[@jellyhappening1458]

I love how Linda was so unpopular 3/4 of her kids didnt even cheer for her

[@jellyhappening1458]

if linda just payed Zoe enough for her to leave town she probably could have saved herself a lot of trouble

[@uncommonmythic3404]

i love how Hidgens is still going with his Working Boys musical

[@Diamond_Doodles]

It took me this long, after watching Black Friday *_Multiple times,_* to realize Gerald was Linda's husband and not her assistant...

[@Theo-gu2tk]

This was incredible, and my expectations for season 2 are now sky high! Mariah and Lauren both killed it, Dylan was an absolute delight as Gerald, Jeff was his usual chaotic self, and Nick was fantastic as Hidgens! Hats off to the entire Starkid team, because this right here is really something special. This is easily my new favorite episode of Nightmare Time!

[@Theo-gu2tk]

Alright, I'm rewatching and actually reading the live chat this time, and what I find so interesting is how many people are on Linda's side over Zoey's, because as far as I can tell, they're both pretty objectively terrible people. However, imo, Zoey is a far more fun character to cheer for, almost BECAUSE she's kinda worse than Linda is. I enjoy cheering for villain characters. Also, the foreshadowing in this episode is CRAZY! I absolutely adore this.

[@PS-dm1dq]

It only gets better from here! I watched them all when they were available for rent on the Starkid website, and every one after this is even better than this one. My personal fav is one of the next ones coming up, "Abstinence Camp".

[@lizzyechavez840]

Question here!!!! Why nick have to do the part of the Proffesor??

[@Theo-gu2tk]

@@lizzyechavez840Sorry, I'm only just seeing this now! Robert Manion, who had previously played Hidgens, confessed to sexually harassing one of the Black Friday band members in between the filming of Nightmare Time Season 1 & 2. After consulting with an HR firm, Starkid asked Robert to step back from Nightmare Time 2, and cast different actors to fill the roles he would have played.

[@lizzyechavez840]

@@Theo-gu2tk OMG thats a serious reason he was a really good actor but what he did its over the line im just glad the team of starkid take It seriusly and support the actress. Thanks

[@avaleelong]

Minor spoiler: . . . . . . . . Zach is the best Chambers sibling and deserved the inheritance and no one can tell me otherwise

[@remyw1409]

SPOILER CONTINUATION Team 10K for Zach

[@cupofcozy708]

Since Zoe ended up being killed, does he now get the inheritance??

[@samwalker5756]

@@cupofcozy708 tldr: maybe? first: IM NOT A LAWYER. second: the law is different everywhere. third: **I think** inheritance would usually pass to grandma’s children first but if zoe/zach can inherit it’s either a gift or their parents are dead. **i think** inheritance law would dictate that a monetary gift that can’t go to its recipient (bc zoe ded) and has no alternate recipient would be considered part of the rest of the estate and be given to the benefactor. **i think** if the 10k was the total inheritance, not just a gift, then the benefactor would inherit it anyway, meaning zoe would have been made benefactor and they’d now have to give the estate to an alternate benefactor or the next next-of-kin. but **i think** if gramma hotte latte specifically stated in the will that zach was to get nothing then i guess they’d have to skip him and find another next-of-kin (gran’s parents, siblings, nibblings), unless he contests the will.

[@valdoxtheunmerciful]

Wishing Zach and Josh all the best

[@akkadia_6605]

He was played by Curt. Coincidence, I think not

[@katieinman5299]

I missed this the first time around when I forgot and the deadline passed! The Starkid team are saints for putting these on youtube. So excited!

[@everyonesalittlemad1608]

I love them

[@maxisaud]

I did the same thing lol! Glad to know I’m not alone

[@just_peachy3582]

Gerald loving Linda’s absolute psychotic nature is why I love Linda myself. So glad we finally get to meet Gerald officially

[@bethgarden4537]

Can we just talk about how incredible "Queen B" is for a second?! The audio and visual production is insanely good, and Lauren is sensational! I cannot get enough of that song! 😍

[@luizasabbaga592]

Ok but nicks professor Hidgens is AMAZING! This episode was EVERYTHING and also, not necessarily related to this, but can we talk about the absolute storm of content coming out way? I mean, these past three days alone. We got NT2, clues for something tin can bros AND the pulp musicals countdown. And this is only stuff related to starkid in some way because just YESTERDAY (and this only interests me and a few other Brazilians here maybe, but I’ll still share it) we got a hint for when to expect announcements regarding a pretty huge rpg that, together with starkid, kept me sane through the pandemic so you can see what I mean by storm of content. This is crazy and I am absolutely NOT complaining. OH OH AND THE SPRING AWAKENING THINK DROPPING ON HBO MAX. God, what a week

[@gabrielarachewsky8761]

(eu amei achar gente br aqui hihi)

[@bellagsilva762]

mds a pessoa é br, fã de starkid e fã de Ordem Paranormal, bom demaiss

[@luizasabbaga592]

@@gabrielarachewsky8761 eu amo muito!

[@luizasabbaga592]

@@bellagsilva762 parece que vc tb tem bom gosto colega :]

[@lukefilms3995]

Bora geral criar um fã clube BR de Starkid hahaha

[@TombstoneToons]

I've been trying for ages to get my friends to love Team StarKid as much as I do. But alas. The inner working of Hatchetfield is awesome to see. And everyone is just so good. I wish I was rich just so I could show more support to you all other then just by word of mouth.

[@beatricefox937]

Yeah I’m the only person in my friend group who likes StarKid- I will never be fully able to share the joy of discussing Hatchetfield conspiracy theories in person

[@TombstoneToons]

@@beatricefox937 for real!

[@LENNARD2ns]

@@beatricefox937 i might've gotten someone to watch TGWDLM, but aside from that, no fellow starkid fans in my friend group either.

[@lilcjpotato6564]

@@beatricefox937 you got us hunny we got you

[@lndseymsp]

I got three of my friends to watch A Very Potter Musical with me (told them it was max 2 hours long hehe). They liked it but since then they haven't been in de mood to watch any of the other shows

[@Elizabelle79]

Always a treat when Nick plays a character.

[@vladimirserpov6773]

Linda's song actually resonates with her character so much, that it totally slaps 😮

[@februaryschneck]

SPOILER FOR THE ENDING - - - - - I have seen a bunch of people asking and based off the Album, Dylan Saunders is playing Nibbly! So that means so far we have Jon as Wiggly, James as Blinky, Jeff as Tinky, and Dylan as Nibbly.. but who will be Pokey???

[@Anonymous_Individual]

I really hope we find out more about pokey. He seems so much more active than the other lords in black considering he’s likely the cause of the guy who didn’t like musicals.

[@fluffypandagallove7143]

Can you remind me where Tinky came from? I’ve been watching these videos for a while now, but I don’t recognize the name

[@februaryschneck]

@@fluffypandagallove7143 Tinky was introduced in NMT1 Episode 2 Part 2 Time Bastard!

[@danieldonovan106]

As of current, everyone taken over in TGWDLM technically played Pokey, being a hive mind and all. I’m really curious whether they’ll have someone in particular voice Pokey or let everyone play him again if he ever reappears

[@faithnicoleofficial]

We are for sure demanding NT3!!!!! The ideas for the third season are too good to pass up!!!

[@mia5222]

I didn’t know Zoe vs. Linda was a showdown I needed but man,

[@the_ambracer]

Just when I think there's going to be a happy ending, I'm reminded that this is nightmare times, meaning a bad ending. Loved this and looking forward to the other eps. Great work, y'al!

[@Regmuslima]

Yeah, I think there was only 1 story from last season that ended somewhat happily (which I'm grateful for considering how those characters ended in TGWDLM )

[@FxdGearQueer]

Dunno, I'd say season 1 was pretty even. (mild Spoilers): Ape Man - not a total downer WW - pretty much good Paul & Emma - hilariously dark Ted - just brutal Jane - won't watch again Hannah - almost unambiguously positive

[@evanrodriguez4884]

I love how they make me empathize with such evil characters without making them less evil

[@WolfCharmer]

I love how supportive of his wife gerald is. No matter what he is there

[@jalix9574]

Enjoying blinky's rewatch party 🎉

[@boba21521]

pst i found you

[@ren4173]

I love that they kept a lot of the original opening and some how mixed in the new folks and the higher production value bits like Jeff in the mirror

[@alexhead2645]

The brilliant thing here is that a real life Michigan tradition is being shouted out and also parodied here. The Cherry Festival of Traverse City, Michigan, is a real thing that goes down yearly.

[@leotamer5]

I think it is very common in small town to have festivals named after local produce. My town has / had a blueberry festival.

[@leugimuxu]

Linda vs Zoey is really the duel of the century. What a great episode. Loved Gerald too.

[@MissAlaniousVideos]

Are we not gonna question the fact Paul said “Sure” to Linda (42:37)? What happened to “Okay”? And the fact the music stopped when he said that like it was emphasizing the fact that it’s different? Who is this man because he is not our Paul.

[@philippinevlogsandgamingpl7671]

It's Paul 23

[@SociableAlarm]

Linda's song is a friggin' slap. Edit: NOOOOO SHE LEARNED TO LOVE HIM AFTER HE DIIIIIIEEEEED! IM CRYING!

[@sparkelyspacedino]

Wow so this whole thing is just horrible people being horrible to each other, I am 100% on board!

[@WalkerRileyMC]

I mean...welcome to Hatchetfield.