NIGMA vs HellRaisers - EU vs CIS League - ESL Los Angeles 2020 DOTA 2

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NIGMA vs HellRaisers - EU vs CIS LEAGUE - ESL Los Angeles 2020 DOTA 2
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[@wingsgamingfans5850]

I found it funny that people forget Nigma was the godlike team last ti only second to OG. From lower bracket to grandfinal They forgot nigma won We play madmoon , we play bukovel and we save charity( even destroyed hellraisers at Grandfinal)

[@FD-rj9gq]

Would u comment the same if nigma lose?

[@Casual-Netizen]

@@FD-rj9gq Would you reply the same if Nigma win?

[@anuar143]

nah...that was last year when they were menacing. This season around nigma was not that hot. They failed to get direct qualification to major twice. When they managed to get into one, they lost in the first round of playoff. Not to mention they failed to get qualified even for a minor. Those competitions that they failed are the important ones because those competitions gonna get you to TI. Sure sometimes they are good, but they failed to perform well when it matters

[@sawsawlang5412]

I dont trust kuro draft. . Secret draft and og draft are all good. Og is more on the unpredictable side but really is just like secret draft. Secret have always balance drafting. Like this game 2. It really bugs me how he pick ta pos2 and an ember pos 1. You dont see secret pick dat. Secret when picking a early to mid strong carry. They always pick strong late mid lane like medusa.

[@spatacuz001]

Many people would say “This is OG playstyle but for me “This is Liquid TI7 playstyle boisss~

[@ammarkaren]

spatacuz001 it is ti7 liquid style.

[@ma.fepili7707]

True

[@wijayakusuma6212]

OG fangay logic : this og playstyle.. i still remember epecinter 2017, sven + io mid 22-1 vs eg lul

[@gobahgaber6909]

nigma win:omg w33 or other player is so good they never make mistake nigma lose:omg just retire or kick___ very nice pattern from these 2k dogs in the comment section

[@EvanVerdilloJr]

U nailed it bro

[@FD-rj9gq]

Miracle is so good XD

[@EvanVerdilloJr]

@@FD-rj9gq I'm his shadow

[@nevermore888]

nigma win : where are w33 haters? nigma lose : kick w33 so noob, miracle mid pls

[@GAWiEtv]

The truth has been spoken.

[@emssolutions2269]

HR called GG a little too late on the first game.. I think they could have called GG when they learned they were matching against Nigma..

[@ceiii7190]

good nigma gave MC some control now , i really like it how mc is really play this game, he is not the same 3rd position sacrificial role he is main rotating gear, he stun he attack he defend he farm, man this 3rd new position is damn good

[@jakugarcia]

This is the best game of Nigma just yet. They definitely watch the films and studied HR after those previous encounters. That's what experience gives you! Let's go Nigma!

[@abyanharitsdio6903]

I saw a live match between NIGMA and HR. I was amazed by the game Tusk from GH and AM from Miracle. Their way of thinking with a good position and always chasing RodjEr behind is a very good decision. I feel sorry for RodjEr.

[@youarekid1020]

Yeah gh so good idk I just can say kuro doing well too even he is rank 3k immortal right now. If their draft good, they sure win. The only ways to stop them is to drag the game into late game but it's hard and sec is to counter them in late game by good ganking and rotation

[@sawsawlang5412]

Kuro is dog noob. I play with him once. His overthinking everything. Miracle good read on games.

[@abyanharitsdio6903]

sawsaw lang Maybe what u say is true? If that's the case, then why did Kuroky get the title of best captain? Are u drunk or wht man.

[@cholomiguelmedalla8471]

Nigma uses OG Style? FYI nigma before was so dominant in their games since 2017

[@cholomiguelmedalla8471]

@Yonko Shanks They Overcommit sometimes that their mistakes. TI9 was supposed to be a wake up call for them. Trust Nigma they will ein ti10.

[@dev7a]

@@cholomiguelmedalla8471 nahh i think secret is strong contender

[@dev7a]

@ussef libaton no, im just thinking that OG isnt on their best lineup and Nigma is looking inconsistent in their matches where they can win a major or lose in the early stages of tourneys, Secret in the other hand is solid with their matches so im hopeful for them, if youre talking about TI, they have just received Matumbaman after TI9, we can only see the results.

[@SnekNOTSnake]

I actually watched the full match. I came here only for the comment section :D

[@abyanharitsdio6903]

SnekNOTSnake 🛑 So do I. When the comment session is more exciting than the match.

[@beaverknight9001]

8:02 "back off when wyvern respawn, show respect" Miraclul: YOLO

[@haryanto3812]

Dont win to much in group stage nigma. We need you in LB. ✌

[@wingsgamingfans5850]

Poor hellraisers, got the receiving end of nigma's anger. Nigma must be pissed to lose against OG and Gambit

[@khieferbrosse4676]

Win or Lose Im a Nigma Fangay I will protect My Miracle from you Haters!

[@soundlatidos9126]

Jajajjaa

[@agusaris5031]

Ok fangay

[@adambirangga891]

hillarious

[@bjs4166]

Miracle fan and nigma fans are differdnt tho 😝

[@hermawanhamka]

Calm sir, atleast you're not miraclulw fangay XD

[@monkas19]

BIG NIGMA FAN HERE

[@pokemonlucariox]

Bruh Team Star

[@thebubblegum5175]

i hope i can see gh with kotl and miracle with ember , but never release :( cos kotl always banning

[@loristnorton3723]

It's because a team let them have that combo (CL) I think and they absolutely got dumpstered, with no counter play. And they have the best proficiency on that duo stat wise.

[@thebubblegum5175]

@@loristnorton3723 yeah men, that kotl-ember combo really broken. i dont think enemy let nigma pick that hero. but i still want to see in this tournament XD

[@Casual-Netizen]

2mins into the video: *_nah. this'll be a clean shit_*

[@ionutdaniel7405]

If w33 plays like that every game,no one can stop them

[@bjs4166]

Kinda agree with u. But he need more pool heroes. So far i like his ta, lina, and meepo in this patch 👍.

[@ammarkaren]

He is the 50/50 god

[@fadhilazwir]

Weplay Charity Nigma 3-2 Hellraisers ESL LA Nigma 2-0 Hellraisers

[@bjs4166]

Thats what im thinking too. 😅😅, Theyre try hard in grandfinal but lookslike ez win in this 2 games.

[@luisbautistaingalla5311]

How about WePlay Madmoon Nigma 3-2 Secret WePlay Charity Nigma 2-0 Secret 🤔

[@yudi.g]

its been so long since i heard funn1k

[@x7532]

Picks timber: lose HR: iLl dO It aGaiN

[@abyanharitsdio6903]

Did you see Nigma's game? Why do I feel their game is like OG? 🔴They looked very aggressive, their game was clean (one or two mistakes didn't matter. That was normal) What I saw was the rotation of "support" and "offlane" from Nigma's team was amazing . They are very active in the early minutes of the game until the end of the game. Especially GH with his Tusk ❤️

[@bayumahendra1797]

Yeah it similar from og vs nigma before,nigma clearly use those strat, amazing indeed

[@Hybr1dthe0ry]

When miracle- in two modes, aggressive mode and also greedy mode

[@kushalrahatkar4568]

No one play ta like w33

[@nicobarranco414]

You haven't seen ta abed

[@kushalrahatkar4568]

@@nicobarranco414 u haven't seen ta w33

[@yahtadi5152]

I swear w33ha lina's stun never miss. I know it wasnt hard nor impressive(normal pro gameplay is im saying) but still..

[@fadhlishafhanlubis]

1:50 hmmmmmmmmmm

[@sujalkhatri4342]

@@fadhlishafhanlubis morph missed that stun...

[@limhecalao7818]

@@fadhlishafhanlubis its morp stun not lina

[@Zalpha99]

@@fadhlishafhanlubis rip

[@zizouwowist1641]

not hard to land that stun with one second cast animation and against pro players ? if u don't have good prediction u never land it but weegod always one step ahead

[@Arul7X]

man Tuskar is gonna be nerfed hard after this tournament

[@ninocuid1150]

upper bracket is for....????

[@huehuehue1390]

A winner

[@roygibson8547]

Bitch

[@xninjamoves6849]

B*TCHES!!!!!!!!!!

[@piyanidris9147]

now w33 also carry the game. where's the haters??

[@hermawanhamka]

Most of nigma fans, are miraclulw fangay Their rule : Blame w33 Blame kuro Blame kuro's draft Saving strat Adjusting to the new patch

[@zoedesvl4131]

The truth is Nigma is becoming one of the most aggressive teams in the world. They are trying to be anyway.

[@wrathoflichking9603]

Og style? So what if it is effective???

[@zizouwowist1641]

it's not healthy to be nigma hater when they are at lower bracket wee-god mvp

[@antonnuralim6926]

6:15 hahahaa position lina nice

[@hilmirija]

Honestly, I kinda like this kind of Nigma playstyle. Going YOLO like OG rather than 4-protect-1 strategy.

[@tupixohoho8516]

Bullshit

[@zikzein]

*like Wings Wings invented the YOLO playstyle, not OG

[@forrestjaysolismanzanades3158]

Did he just say enigma?

[@elwinbu5926]

poor rodjer... Hope is mentally ok after the first game...

[@bjs4166]

His lina just too good actually. I dont think he will dominate midlane in game 1..

[@bjs4166]

edited, Well thx for corection :p

[@62_aryobimo96]

i think this match doesnt mean anything. just like when you play mmr 5k vs 3k

[@user-iw4hn8yd3c]

Same scenario in 8k+. EDIT : TI IS EVERYTHING. YOU WIN ALL MAJORS AND MINORS THEN EXIT FIRST RD TI. OR DO NOT WIN TI. USELESS. WIN ONLY IN TI AND LOOKS LIKE YOU WON EVERYTHING HAHAHA

[@bjs4166]

But nigma need win tho, coz theyre in the "mid position" in the table rightnow. Both position 3 and 4 would be in lower bracket which isnt that good for them..

[@kshitij9898]

This team beat gambit which had 2-0 over nigma. Don't undervalue them.

[@ammarkaren]

Kshitij yeah this team beat secret 5-0 straight. Dont undervalue them

[@Ku_lira]

Poor courier 12:04 KEKW

[@ricardoasf533]

17:17

[@cobra-chan5154]

15:26 when you think you a god of juking when actually you juking by yourself with no enemy around. What a juking lost

[@achmadnasution9676]

Cant wait to watch nigma vs vp

[@rickydenzon3082]

Is not like the same no ramzes, pasha and rodjer

[@achmadnasution9676]

@@rickydenzon3082 yup, thats why i cant wait for the match . Vp with the new roster just crushing every team in this group stage . Im pretty sure they still on the top right now

[@enigma727]

@@achmadnasution9676 vp raped nigma's ass

[@787pilot1]

Hr had the most bet in this game .. RIP betters ..

[@stevenong9631]

Lag?

[@Ayumu7]

4:16 Its 420 :D

[@kkrstudios]

Where are the w33 haters at now?

[@titzroninsantias5397]

Woww is Funn1k back?

[@aldihanif5215]

Why HR didnt kick ksani, he never performs well as a pro.. First game only have 2k gold difference with the wyvern wtf

[@agusaris5031]

Haha, Looks like OG mark the Yolo aggresive playstyle as their own when they win back to back TI champ. Every team that use this playstyle will always called "using OG style". Just like Alliance with Rat playstyle

[@zikzein]

Alliance = Rat Doto Old Liquid/Nigma = 4p1 OG = YOLO Wings = the original YOLO / Perfection

[@ammarkaren]

Og copying i7 liquid.

[@wijayakusuma6212]

@@zikzein yeah wings fking shit in 2016. 5 games using 20 heroes.. not fking same

[@bhaveshpanchal5835]

W33 hero pool : TA, WR, OD, LINA, Timber, Meepo, Tiny, Batrider, Ember, Void spirit, Huskar, Lesh U have seen him with all this hero.

[@noctrin9760]

Razor

[@audiemaesakenta3250]

Invo

[@pokemon23455]

puck, pugna, zeus, tinker, alchemist, visage, jakiro, sky, pango, mars, qop, sf

[@deyvanbhaskara3340]

Its not like w33 cant play other hero but i think kuro limiting his hero's pool just like matu before, he's used necro so many times

[@avocado9924]

Give him skywrathhhh

[@ronaldt2339]

Ksani saving sonic wave until COVID-19 is over

[@bowsersbigbeanburrito2199]

Purge roasted Zai for playing DK off in his video,wonder what he think about MC off DK

[@charanarandeni6016]

In the commentary?

[@loristnorton3723]

It's because DK grim is and ember is a line-up that fits the nigma line-up. And I think they have 100% winrate for DK grim .

[@bowsersbigbeanburrito2199]

@@charanarandeni6016 yeah,in Secret Vs Nigma Grand Final match

[@deodatlawson8877]

Ma Nigma !!!

[@avocado9924]

When I checked the comments aight imma head out

[@saffiq97]

4:17 420

[@cholomiguelmedalla8471]

OG without ANA I dont think they can threepeat

[@TheHazero]

Morphling so bad

[@dotapower6027]

The classics 💯

[@lemmororsales6615]

Too many salty comment. Keep it up boyz

[@gersongomez3986]

0:36 P*ngaaaaa xdxd

[@marielp.cebreros7965]

Gh mindset is wtf

[@trendingtayoph8680]

what a practice game for nigma

[@sherwinatienza6606]

Happy theyve won..either nigma or og will win the ti10 Fan of those 2teams😁😁😁

[@nurhannahbraim9031]

remind me to someone

[@XazETV]

Rodjers tusk so good.

[@soragaming1138]

why these days whoever play agro the think they are copying OG.Should have seen the match of Wings way back before

[@nevermore888]

Aakash Magar and should have seen Nigma/Liquid TI 7

[@hermawanhamka]

Chinese team, got a ban from chinese itself.

[@rae5425]

WINGS does not play agro. They play crazy draft like, but not agro.

[@TY-nw4ur]

you mean mvp phoenix. or maybe cdec during their ti run

[@spammingtitanxd6687]

@@rae5425 not agro defensive

[@chieesntra]

hello people

[@cristianobentes1505]

Falta de comunicação ou os caras são ruim mesmo pô 1x4 é muita burrice e o resto do time chega atrasado aí é foda

[@Lightn0x]

15:13 WHY would you EVER morph back to agility in that position? Especially when you know they have vessel. He died like a dog in the trees 10 seconds later because of it.

[@Zer-us4wq]

Thats why he lost

[@askipedrum]

because he can see his team coming, also unaware about dk in the trees. he could also see the enemy supports on the lane as he was in the tress and he hoped for a shotgun with the ethereal blade or to jump in but he was unlucky to find dk in the trees. ez pz

[@Lightn0x]

@@askipedrum what do you mean unaware about the dk in the trees? He had vision of him on multiple occasions, he SHOULD have known he was there. And I get that he saw his team coming but how about you start morphing when they are there, not 10 seconds before?.. it only takes a few seconds to morph from one end to the other anyway

[@askipedrum]

@@Lightn0x who the fuck expects him in that spot blocked in the trees lmao

[@Zalpha99]

He morphed into agi to use his wand so more efficiency

[@hiskiafrans]

omg, that morp.

[@angieancco9003]

rodjer is great player !

[@snazlefraz]

Was

[@alanpizzorevollo8606]

nigma activated champion mode

[@alaudeensafree6818]

Champion mode but lost against og

[@katipunan4212]

@@alaudeensafree6818 Lmao what's your point? OG choked their asses off against VP😂

[@Ivan-jp1dj]

Against a tier 3 team

[@youarekid1020]

@@katipunan4212 yes but og still raped nigma 2-0

[@alaudeensafree6818]

you are kid yup thats my point bud 😏

[@toyotomi9musashi203]

Oh yeah satisfaction

[@nickandreisabasaje9460]

They give tusk for gh lmao, ez win!!

[@AcYeah9294]

ez arcanas

[@jesusramos779]

1k cores xd

[@rrrigil]

WALANG MGA BOBO AKO.

[@jakakelana457]

Tangina bobo

[@Zheheng82]

That trash morphing

[@limchuxiang6899]

Nigma

[@neilm.5880]

w33 Latino Pride! Viva La raza!

[@aka-47pro59]

He is not Latino, he middle Eastern or european I think. Omar aliwi

[@audiemaesakenta3250]

@@aka-47pro59 are you drunk boy.. he is brazilian mamba bro he is latino

[@loristnorton3723]

@@audiemaesakenta3250 am I gonna get r/wooshed? He is romanian.

[@balhyung4004]

You only post top team's highlights, I look at that as low.

[@terryyap4588]

First game 17min already can call gg waste of time,morphine is real suck in both two games,my advice is never ever use morphine again,u can't play this hero,ww ss timing suck as well,way to play ww is same like es wait few heros stick together only ss, tusk done very well in second game played worth to learn

[@danar6848]

are u actually 2k?

[@Stormm0]

morphine 😂

[@mintoure4]

empty vessel 🔊🔊🔊

[@muhammadazmi801]

They way u explain already show ur mmr bracket 😂😂😂😂😂

[@youarekid1020]

Did you watch the full game bro? Tusk is doing good early game for sure but winter keep feeding with bad positioning. The problem nigma is keep ganking so aggresive, and timber also not doing so good due to nigma aggresive and good play

[@kek6341]

Funnik should retire again.

[@ahmadzakwan2]

Well played team nigma

[@sumitdhongade2860]

Other day nigma got their ass whooped by OG again like the TI............

[@MrLynksys1000]

Nigma's strategy has always been to cheese their way through lower bracket so they can get some wins before they inevitably choke to a team who's consistently better than them. Nigma fans are so excited when they win against these T2 teams then they have to watch them crumble against any team that actually understands the laning phase

[@tupixohoho8516]

@@MrLynksys1000 yah like they just win a comeback agaisnt secret wtf are u talking about

[@daniellejugos2888]

when you hate nigma fans but u realize you too are watching and commenting on a nigma game.. what a pleb

[@bjs4166]

Well. Ceb and notail strategy is one of a kind, just like puppey, kuro but 1 step ahead from them i guess. Personally im happy nigma lose that game, as long as they still survive in the tournament until atleast 3rd place. And still learn something from that. Thats what make them stronger. At wesave. We all know that secreat beat them so hard 2-1. But in the grandfinal, theyre comeback and win 3-2.

[@daniellejugos2888]

@@bjs4166 Yeah team secret is good too.. more teams that have improved their own playstyle.. even tier 3-4 named teams are now playing much better

[@KingahBacon]

It's 420

[@khamsumlachungpa3644]

Nigma practicing like og gameplay

[@cw9706]

Nope it's Nigma own playstyle

[@lui_calibre2448]

KHAMSUM LACHUNGPA go watch your team being chocked by vp man

[@khamsumlachungpa3644]

Yeah you got that yummuy yum that yummy yummy 😭😭😭😂😂

[@Sai-sc1gh]

@@lui_calibre2448 damn u sound like a dumbass fan, im a nigma fangay but surely they are copying OG playstyle

[@xaviertzodiacc3154]

@@Sai-sc1gh yeah they are, but nothing is wrong about that tho, nobody has copyright for the strats, someone made the strats doesn't mean they are the best with it

[@areyul580]

Unhealthy fight 😌

[@combatxhoop7069]

ez game

[@sapotesaptek]

og fans where u at?

[@amrullahyacob9125]

Wrong video, u can see them when nigma loses I guaranteed

[@johnpaologarganera9039]

See that morph? I'm more talented than him. Damn

[@katipunan4212]

Bro, don't compare your shitty pub matches with Heralds against Pro Matches. I'm pretty sure your CS would be even worse than HR supports

[@ica91021]

iM mORe tAlenTed ThAN hiM, yes cuz youre in a fucking 4k bracket

[@yournme118]

Снгешная помойка

[@ars____838]

Nigma 'try' OG style's, I guess... sorry for bad grammar, I still learn ^^

[@tupixohoho8516]

Ohhh watch some liquid 2016 u can see they can end game liks under 20 mins sometimes 15

[@ars____838]

@@tupixohoho8516 They going to be 'old liquid' again then?

[@daniellejugos2888]

@@ars____838 hmmm Yes?.. is it wrong to be strong again? or to regain the old playstyle? you all say OG style when its not even innovated by OG

[@antonioirdinus2896]

Better be an "old liquid" then "D- OG"

[@daniellejugos2888]

@@antonioirdinus2896 ehhh what? you trying to insert puns or jokes here now?😂😂 theyre just nigma

[@johnboona4048]

Hellraisers? More like Noobraisers amirite? Against Miracle MGOD everyone is a noob.

[@usuitakumi8673]

lol everyone?

[@extremelypositiveperson1811]

No.

[@datdude2470]

U forgot ANA the God - two time TI champion which is unbeatable argument. Raped miracle with IO at TI finals

[@jamesmacker]

PepeScoots

[@Keshav8575]

@@datdude2470 and what did you do achieved anything ? no ok now keep celebrating

[@berkhjargalbatjantsan340]

1st hit the heart

[@JoShuaQXV]

1rt

[@rodrigoulisespomamendoza2662]

first :v

[@hellokitty-nr2ve]

Before i watch a nigma video, i read the comments first. If someone says "Nigma da best" "Miracle God" "Well played nigma" &etc. 'Aight Im out.

[@ajobi2626]

Nigma da best miracle god well played nigma & etc

[@humanpeoplemanusia9700]

Nice. Both have haters and fans. And here im neutral. Not miracle haters nor fans

[@humanpeoplemanusia9700]

Neutral is the best answer

[@ammarkaren]

Miracle god! Well played nigma!

[@denilsonramirolaraortega71]

5th

[@arjandionio9620]

9th

[@genevibbgesoro1998]

2nd

[@mrpeace9836]

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[@speedevil9732]

This comment section is so butthurt by the commentators saying nigma play style is similar to og 😂 what can you do when its 2 back 2 back ti winner 🤷🏼‍♂️ of course you will be the example of everything 😌

[@notmiracle-5909]

Okey

[@ВладимирКолесников-п5м]

Glory hunter. Stfu. I remember u all kept bitching notail before TI 8 and now u all praise OG. That's disgusting

[@rzkzkr20]

@@ВладимирКолесников-п5м notail is a washed up carry, he was shit pre TI8, he's decent pos 5 now, but ana IS God. Lets see how far OG pre TI before Ana save them again.

[@ammarkaren]

Ti7 liquid*