Nikole Hannah-Jones Debunks Myths About Slavery | Jemele Hill is Unbothered

[@eugenewalker4680]

The reason I believe it is important for us to address the issue of slavery in 2024 is because there are so many counter prevailing narratives that are not presenting slavery, accurately, slavery and racism are fabrics woven into the fabric of America

[@6time686]

Nikole Hannah-Joes took a lot of heat for her 1619 Project which was truthful and brilliant. White folks want to gaslight and lie their way out of any discussion on slavery in order to avoid shame and embarrassment from the demonic, barbaric, inhumane actions of their ancestors.

[@richardfrancis2609]

Thank you Jemele for this content. Very much needed.

[@obrienstjamesdaniels4555]

But you want the protection of the US Constitution .... that point👊💪

[@KevinGloverpost24]

The TEA and COGNAC Session that is exactly the point 😂

[@nandansho]

There's Alot of Blacks in the Military protecting your constitutional rights.

[@hjcbcc8638]

@@KevinGloverpost24😊

[@fishnets4177]

I just cannot think of the definition to analyze Janelle Hill at this moment but it is sad. See people this is what out of Whitlock and they are born at a Caucasian white. Hospital so therefore they have a birth certificate do that reference anything yes we do not have civil rights we have civil liberties understand. My parents are all five of their children on my father great-grandfather a I property home and land so therefore we have a birth record not a birth certificate I never had an ancestry DNA test and I was thinking my 60th birthday I may attempt. But the more I hear about this delusion of stuff right here with Janelle Hill people cannot be unprogrammed and I'm understanding that right now. I never had a a great-grandmother she passed when I was eighteen and she was born in 1888 do you realize how much time I spent with my BIGMA course she knows her parents, father was born in 1850 how mother was born in 1852 okay I inherit a copy of my great-great-grandmother last will and testament I receive that in 2016 my grandmother born in 1915 and she passed in 2015 that's a reason we going to always have a problem because people don't know who they are and where they come from and if you tell them who you are they look at you like you stupid. My mother's 3rd or 4th grandfather his name is ABACA TOLLIVER arrived from the Philippines between 1600 or 1700 to Virginia could be by way of California online I see his burial site I see his mother burial site we still continue to name people in our family after these name which at which time he became Filipino and black when he died and 1700 his mother was Bertha toliver which is my mother grandmother they travel to South Carolina to Alabama see my mother family they farm sugarcane, wheat because they had a windmill I remember her saying they hate cows they farm whatever the Alabama environment successfully. And my mother used to say something about I know she was receiving an inheritance until I was about twelve years old and she was saying something mineral monies, but it was mineral rights. And if you have family you can go back to the 1600s or 1700s please don't bother with an ancestry DNA test. You have to remember that the 1830s was the removal of the Indians trail of tears. So why would your results have anything to do with native or Indian unless you live in Oklahoma on a reservation 1830s after the removal of the Indians the Caucasian revise the census forms with (M) mulatto (W) White (C) colored at that time they was not using the word negro. Because they hadn't enslaved really dark skin people that happened when they enslave the Jamaicans that's when negro came aboard and if you are or was indigenous or a native they would least you ask em for mulatto they cannot stay on in the document that you are a Indian or native because of the removal of Indians. It's all very said I'm 58 years old and I know more about my family than people that's 100 with every type of degree it is you know why because they probably wasn't with their grandparents you know like the Jefferson Sensei move it on up you have any type of education you want if you don't know where you come from you have nothing to compare to.. I can see this is getting very very interesting people that have high standing and don't have a clue who they are they need to go talk to the mayor of Guam Maryland because I think he can fill them in on a thing or two and do you know the Bank of London owns once owned Maryland, Virginia North Carolina, South Carolina, I'm going to say something I don't know who going to pick it up and at this point I really don't care we have a activist that was here or young lady she went to school and Atlanta and I think she did her internship at CNN as she had just got hired for a newspaper journalist and TV journalist here in Norfolk Virginia therefore she moved back home because this is her okay she went out one night to a club called Chico she was murdered they don't have anybody in custody two or three other people lost their lives also but if you happen to come by this Google her she was an activist as she was murdered on Granby Street and then you find out who owned Granby Street okay the bank of London on Granby Street the last name g it belongs to the Roman he have never stepped foot in Virginia and you know who on the majority of Pennsylvania down and most definitely South Philly North Philly the Russian. Oh yes and this steel plant you know they was the largest steel plant in the United States of America was in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania is back in operation by the Russian I guess that's where they getting all these ghosts guns from and you mean to tell me that the government don't know anything about this it's call genitacation. I think it will last year or it could have been the first the all-time multi million billion dollars billionaire you can Google him. When you go on your search engine look at market Street All of Us North Philadelphia and that name pop up and that's the person you know one of them that's dead was murdered a Russian was not even supposed to be in the United States of America.

[@fishnets4177]

Do Janelle Hill know that the Russian is about to remove the Liberty Bell from Philadelphia Pennsylvania. Who do you think on the United States of America the bank a London allegedly longest people can get a little money Payday build get day upkeep but their facial features and bodies it's all good in the neighborhood why I never had to buy Luke's body or any of those things my hair is natural been natural for over eight years haven't worn makeup since early twenties when I went to school for laboratory I couldn't wear makeup because and then lay out they have for male behind and whatever they get in your skin I keep a pedicure and a manicure. That's what happen when you cannot compare yourself physically mentally or spiritually with anyone else. See that's a good thing about the Creator and knowing your even the good bad and ugly you going to have some of their ways their attribute their looks physically they're mental issues and sometime if you is not conscious you going to be on the same levels damn spiritually what's the point of DNA and genetics there's a connection and they call it reincarnation when people died unexpectedly the Creator is just giving them another chance to purify DNA genetic for the next generation. They're just and God corrects the one he loved and keep giving you chances after chances that just like God don't call the qualified God qualifies to call and you don't have a choice in that matter. Think about it like you think about that people on dialysis getting their blood clean and filter when a person in your family died at a young age The Creator as his field strength that DNA out and cleaning for the next because if it had lived at a certain age it may be impossible to filter that germ out.. for me the more these researchers and scholars searching and put in their life in danger in order to understand the human being but it always goes back to ancient time and your ancestor there is nothing without your ancestors the human being that was here within your DNA linkage. Your connection to your gods your people most people don't want to know that I guess they just popped out of somewhere they don't have to give sovereigns they don't have to get honor they don't have to give Grace we are human beings there are species that go back to their ancestors and their burial ground and they have they are the worship of your grace I don't know the correct terminology but I do know we as human being although most greatest thing and beautiful thing that God created cuz he created us in his image not an ain't God may not be correct I don't know but I do know it's a creator and when people make statement like people think they so high mighty you are mighty you are everything because you was created in the image of the person that created the whole world how high can you be

[@TheBroadStreetBullie]

Nikole and Jemele are dope.

[@BeMe4oneDay2]

Good Stuff Jemele!!! Great content I've been enjoying your shows Keep up the good work

[@isaaclegend365]

Black women always holding us down!!! Great interview, questions and answers

[@BROTHERARTMUSICArturoJCastro]

Magnificently Done! 🎯

[@elrodspeaks7548]

My favorite book of all times! Reading it for second time❤

[@robmetroproperiesdc1531]

I'm glad you are interviewing folks that are historians in the area of race relations. Thanks for the Isabella interview, I love Nikole Hanna - Jones. Keep up the great work. I am a fan.

[@mixdmsages2001]

Great 👏🏾 Discussion 👏🏾

[@BishopEddie5443]

I'd like to hear about black women's history of owning slaves and the black women who were feminists during slavery working against black men during slavery.

[@Alkelly-hh6rv]

That’s on both sexes . There will always be people who are not part of the group. They don’t care for their own people. Yah said they would exist.😮

[@aarondigby5054]

​@Alkelly-hh6rv if it was it was less than .0001%

[@bofpp7951]

Fantastic discussion!!

[@barryscott9748]

The bottom line is that this system of things is like a train going down the Hill with out any brakes

[@Chris-ir8yy]

I love deep dialogue. Things that make you go hmmm. On to the next episode.

[@davidw9772]

Our Founding Fathers of cosmopolitan intellectualism were Frederick Douglass and Charles Dickens whom collectively introduced Enlightened Universal Human Rights to America.

[@bertramdavis7120]

The hypocrisy of America, when will we learn!

[@marnasquires155]

Soon we’ll learn soon

[@hereticlife2546]

You can leave

[@obadiyah100truth3]

@@hereticlife2546 Leave & Go Where ?

[@hereticlife2546]

@@obadiyah100truth3 wherever you’d like

[@BPB9973952]

you are glib

[@sekhemasaru5718]

My Sis. Jemele you and Nikole are a Goddess act, superlative and supreme! Your work is Divine 💜🙏🏾

[@lavieestbelle6068]

Love your show.

[@brandonnelson5021]

Me. Hill needs a new microphone

[@aarondigby5054]

IKR

[@fiendssanctuary]

5:56 and they won't let us leave. They were supposed to send us to Liberia and didn't. Now you need a passport to leave the country and everyone can't get one.

[@eugeniollamera771]

12 min plus of a discussions which under just a little bit of scrutiny will fold faster then a paper house.

[@hereticlife2546]

Thank you. These two morons yelling at each other in their ignorant holiding echo chamber. Neither one of these idiots could make it through a legitimate debate with an educated person. I'm not all that educated, I have a B.S., and I'll happily debate them. They could even team up and share the half of brain between them.

[@leandrisj]

Really? Begin then.

[@eugeniollamera771]

​@@leandrisjSure slavery is not particular to any country or group of people in fact slavery began 1,000 of years before the first African or Black American was ever enslaved in the U.S and yes they were sold by Africans,in fact European had no idea how people were gathered and stolen from there families due to the fact that stepping foot in Africa was a death sentence cause of malaria. We know this because Africa wasn't colonized by the Europeans till 1878 after the discovery of Quinine that's 70 years after the European ended the slave trade. More Europeans were stolen and enslaved in North Africa roughly around the same time of the transatlantic trade then blacks were in the states. Today there are more slaves in Africa than there ever were during the height of the transatlantic trade. Slavery in the context of history was as common as having a television in your house today. Nobody thought twice about it until the people who founded this country and Europeans felt a moral obligation to end it no other race of people ever felt that way up to that point in history in fact Europe wasted lots of capital to ensure this by having patrol ships sailing the sea and hanging on the spot anyone who participated in this heinous act and I guess you don't have to guess where the majority of those hanging occurred. They where off the coast of (North Africa). Moving on, Black's have more wealth in the U.S than any other country in the world meaning there are more black millionaires than there are millionaires in the Arab countries, people who have oil at there disposal. Slavery did not make this country rich the industrial revolution did, the south lagged in everything behind the North who began to industrialize shortly after this country was officially a country which was 1776 not 1619, they were behind in education, GDP, you name it they lagged. Another way to compare this is by looking at Brazil which imported more slaves than the U.S and had them enslaved for a longer time and of course their economy lagged behind most countries in the world. 1/3 of freed Black's owned slaves an unfortunate truth of this disgusting behavior of mankind. Now to Jim Crow one the most disgusting legacies of the Democratic party. As it is true Black America did not have equal rights. Blacks achieved what seemed miraculous things during this era and they proved they were equal to anyone. They cut literacy rates in half they cut poverty from 86% to 42% they opened businesses and had lower divorce rates than whites. In fact Black father's all threw salvery and Jim Crow were more prevalent in there house hold than white's. We still have the misconception that the Democrats gave Black Americans there rights the truth is even though it was a Democrat president a Republican Senate passed the law while a Democrat Senate filibustered the bill for nearly 3 months making it the longest filibustered bill in U.S history. It was here where black America began to dealing with the issues they face today the war poverty and the bullshit government assistance Johnson began which Black Americans did not need, have proven to be disastrous. First thing it did was remove Father's from the household and second it robbed Black Americans of initiative and competition and made them victims. No where in the world do these programs work. In Europe whites getting this same assistance are sharing the same inequalities that blacks do here in the U.S. Jemele Hill and Hannah are two Buffon's but most importantly there two privileged Black women who know this and want to appeal to Black Americans by bringing up stereo typical nonsense which under scrutiny fold like a house if cards these two are not Black Americans friend these are just part of a long list of people who hold blacks down while they benefit in this country of the very things they lie about Black Americans are unable to achieve, disgusting.

[@blakcherry329]

@@eugeniollamera771 all that nonsense you just typed doesn't really disprove anything or make anything that was discussed fold like a paper house. Slavery here has nothing to do with slavery elsewhere an vice-versa. After being "freed" Black people were set up to fail through the Constitution and everything else. Not being recognized as human doesn't get corrected with the stroke of a pen. Obviously you think that everything has been equal since the Civil War. Seems like that way of thinking will definitely fold up like a paper house under the weight of any debate.

[@jamesmichaelclark672]

We need to shut down the notion of running to Europe for the crumbs they leave on their tables. We R much better than we know,! It ‘s the same old shit warmed over different day, we’re ok ! We don’t need anything those crumbs ! We’ve been conditioning our Brains listening to hype! Let’s take a brake from the hype for ten years & rethink how we got here. & we’ll relize we’ve been going about this thing Backwards instead of forward,I don’t think 😢 we can do this for another 400 plus years?

[@americatalkliveLA]

Regarding the Jews recovery: freed slaves recovered mightily post emancipation but the racists powers of the time repeatedly burned it all down. Regarding modern white family ties to slavery I recite Public Enemy: "It wasn't you but you pledge allegiance to the red white blue suckers who stole the soul" - Public Enemy "Fear of a Black Planet" - 1990 #loveyourchannel

[@charlesdorsey7594]

The few Africans that sold their prisoners of tribal conflicts, did so at gunpoint!!!!!

[@irisahmad6974]

I love this discussion about how this country was built on the system of institutional racism/which was Slavery!! We are owed Reparations money 💰by this government!!

[@jasonhill2348]

It wasn’t

[@BPB9973952]

you are adorable, keep living in the past and you will never evolve.

[@jasonhill2348]

Yeah, you owe whites reparations

[@buckyperchski-mc2vo]

When are you going to have an episode on Irish slaves?

[@angelalunsford4546]

Indentured servants

[@marnasquires155]

Civil War has never stopped imo and 2023 we should be gone if able to leave I’m gone in 2022

[@buddy1247]

Any of us can leave whenever

[@darrylstaves748]

Prisoners of war is not slavery, their prisoners of war

[@carlosocatavious3363]

1st question was about black people selling black people in Africa, and she focused on them not considering each other Africans. But it's still black people selling black people. Then she makes a point that even if they did and it was bad how does that justify white people doing it.....it doesn't, but it puts a dent into the racist aspect of slavery. If people who are the same race do it then you can't pretend slavery is only a racist thing. I personally feel the racism occured after slavery, not so much during or at the beginning of slavery. Exceptional hypocrisy is a good point though.

[@darylstephens1391]

Her reply and what it meant was that race is a made up construct. It's not real. There is no such thing as Black and white. Europeans made it up to separate by race. Slavery was a economics issue and if you throw in race it made it easy to operate. Dr. King said, " to make a race of people Black, it "THINGIFY" them and justify the majority treatment of them." Your second point if it's, wrong it's wrong! It doesn't matter what you do or say, it's wrong! Just hang on to that Africa is a continent. Because their skin tones might have been similar. They where different people. Like Russian and Ukraine. No difference!

[@veronicajade20]

Look racist troll, nothing puts "a dent" in the racist aspect of slavery. Slavery _became_ a racist institution under the hands of whites. Other societies had slaves but they didn't specifically use skin color to dehumanize _one group of people_ & permanently mark them as racial lifetime hereditary chattel slaves.

[@muthalicious]

You personally feel that racism occurred after slavery ?? Are you an idiot, stupid, ignorant or all three combined ? You should not comment on issues and history that you have not studied. Your expressed ignorance of the subject of slavery is of a subhuman nature.

[@obadiyah100truth3]

@CarlNipmuc Excellent Explanation...Most Conservatives(European),Particularly Love To Listen To Dr. Thomas Sowell's(Sermon) on The Complexity of Racism & Slavery As If What He Says Is Written in Stone Like The 10 Commandments !!!

[@blkhistorydecoded]

So all other nations knew how to build boats and travel to the New World but Africans needed help? Africans did not know how to build boats and travel to other places by themselves? Do you truly believe this?

[@carlosocatavious3363]

Yes, and building small boats to cross a river or a lake is not the same as a ship to sail across the ocean. There were other people besides black people who were not exploring the way the Vikings, Chinese and later on British did. Just like how a lot of nations manufacture cars but not all nations are able to build their own car brand. It's not so unbelievable.

[@blkhistorydecoded]

@@carlosocatavious3363 Africans back then built boats like the Vikings. There's a lot of misrepresentation when it comes to African history and culture but it's not surprising because of the racism. Africans also knew a very fast stream of water that takes them directly to the Americas.

[@carlosocatavious3363]

@@blkhistorydecoded until wealthy black people invest in promoting archeology among black people and digging up the evidence for this sort of stuff, it's just going to be seen as bs spread by people like Lord Jamar.

[@blkhistorydecoded]

@@carlosocatavious3363 They already gathered a lot of information to refute eurocentric racism and thoughts African history and culture. There is the many volumes of the General History of Africa. Also there are many African manuscripts that are still being translated.

[@blkhistorydecoded]

@@carlosocatavious3363 We are moving into a NWO. The history as it stands now will definitely be changed. It's only a matter of time.

[@gigapus5050]

Name the first slave owner in America history?

[@davidcrosby2672]

When the Argument is made concerning Blacks selling Blacks into slavery doesn't take into account that "slavery" among African nations were more about the "servitude" of weaker tribes, or factions, to a more powerful nation. this servitude was very humane, and not as barbaric and brutal as American slavery. The people were not treated as chattel, and were not raped and beaten as they were in American slavery., and I might add that these nations that sold their countrymen had absolutely no idea they bought and sold on an auction block and treated the way they were in America.

[@7thlion1]

How do you know that it was more humane? Or are you just saying that to justify Africans enslaving other Africans?

[@brabea23]

@@7thlion1 There was no slavery in Africa before Europeans brought it there.

[@jasonhill2348]

@@brabea23completely false. There’s even slavery in Africa today.

[@jasonhill2348]

Completely false.

[@aarondigby5054]

I don't believe that, they knew what was going on in America, how could they not know, everybody else in the world knew.

[@barryscott9748]

Jesus said that people Would hate each other during the time of the end Of this system of things

[@TheTruthAllDay]

America 🇺🇸 first #Trump2024 #MAGA

[@lucidlight6464]

Amazing interview. I almost feel like subscribing to Jemele’s channel. Her Black man hating & creepy husband make me hesitate though. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BPB9973952]

It would be weird to wake up everyday always thinking about the color of peoples skin. Such a strange way to live your life.

[@valkyriesardo278]

"What leads to that moment?" Nikole refers the arrest of George Floyd. The hold used by Officer Chauvin was police protocol in his district. The USA was not founded in 1619, but in 1783 with the British surrender and the signing of the Treaty of Paris. The first slaves did not arrive in 1619, but in 1526. They were property of a Spanish colony in what is now South Carolina. The USA outlawed slavery in 1865 with the 13th amendment. Nikole does not consider that a purge of slavery. The USA ended slavery in less than one century. Nikole does not mention the slavery practiced by islam for 1400 years and which continues to this day. Slavery is not racism. Racism is not slavery. There are and have been slaves of every race. Blacks do not hold the patent or the monopoly on either slavery or racism. The "entire USA" did not benefit from slavery. The USA had only 36 states at the end of the Civil War. The other 14 states joined after the 13th amendment.

[@KevinGloverpost24]

And “that guy” shows up 🤦‍♂️ The slaves that were here in the Spanish colony weren’t under British rule right? The country wasn’t formed as a result of breaking away from Spain right? She is talking about the foundation of America. There had been indigenous people on this land way before 1619 that isn’t what the discussion is. Nor is the Islamic slave trade don’t throw these “facts “ out there to muddy the discussion nice try though...

[@louishollandjr]

White Supremacist always have Excuses for not owning up to anything!

[@carlosocatavious3363]

Valkyrie, am glad you made an effort and tune in to channels that you may not entirely agree with, but some people just want to live in an echo chamber and only want to take offense when white people do something.

[@antonchapman5173]

Texas California New Mexico and Arizona all stolen just like this country

[@David-cv8zd]

First man to sell a black man was ANOTHER black man and he sold that Black man to Portuguese for a piece of salt, a mirror and some whiskey.

[@reubenmurray4893]

Says who mf

[@obadiyah100truth3]

True But When Talking About American Slavery, The Race That Comes To Mind Are American Black Citizens Who Weren't Even Considered Citizens At The Time, Even Though It's Been Documented That There Were At Least 3/4 Other Nations of People Who Were Slaves in America.i.e (European Whites & Filipinos),etc !!!

[@darrylstaves748]

Only evil tries to play both parts

[@yahwulenn8869]

What about Black slave owners in West Indies and and America ?. Railroads were built by Chinese and other races!!! The present Blacks are not slaves and have never been slaves but find it advantagious to continue to claim the "cloak of slavery" to beg for reparations. There are many who have moved on and made something of themselves and their families.

[@KevinGloverpost24]

What about Black Slave owners? According to the 1860 census they made up 2% of slave owners. Not to mention when Black codes were passed post slavery they were just like any other Negro. So yes they too would be entitled to reparations. West Indies has nothing to do with the United States Government. They have their own group dealing with their matters. It's not about "moving on and making something of yourself" I will put my life's work against anyone. The issue is that there are 16 great great great greand parents of mine that labored for free. If there is a pathway to hold the United States Government accountable for that so be it. We plan to hold them accountable.

[@libertyordeath555]

It's not "begging" when it's been earned...MoT #45 Reparations Part 2: I've Been Slaving On the Railroad kzbin.info/www/bejne/gny9c2lmbLWDgrc The Proximity To WS & Belief In Model Minority Status Has Radicalized Certain Asian Americans kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5KtgKemeq98b9E

[@antonchapman5173]

Shut up

[@cantstop-wontstop2138]

@yahwulenn8869 Slavery wasn't the END. AFTER SLAVERY came Black codes Jim crow Disenfranchisement Peonage systems Public lynchings Mass murders and destruction of entire Black towns Socioeconomic apartheid Etc Yur a great example of the need for accurate history books.

[@alvinwhitaker7203]

We are not begging for reparations,we are demanding to be paid for hundreds of years of free labor.

[@michaelmelling9333]

I would like to know if either of these ladies can think of anything *good* that the Caucasian race has done that benefits their race?

[@JamalMcCoy-tx2vz]

Well that's not the topic of discussion here...

[@alvinwhitaker7203]

Well I can only speak for myself but as for me. I can not think of anything that white people have done that has benefited Black people.

[@stacywyatt4277]

That is not the focus of this conversation. Pay attention class 😂

[@gwendolynalbert4341]

Did she forget that we had a black president and a black first lady?

[@johnwebb2442]

Even with that, systemic racism, white supremacy and police brutality against black people was still in existence during Barack Obama's presidency. He didn't create the problem, he wanted to solve it. By solving the racial problem, truth has to be told about the legacy of slavery.

[@allanwilliams6163]

Wtf🤣

[@alvinwhitaker7203]

Oh so I guess you think that we are living in a post racial society. Don't believe the hype.

[@wadedavies3924]

Sorry, your reparations just were spent in Ukraine.

[@jamespierce7006]

Can we discuss real issues as well as up to date solutions. This slavery talk is so outdated 🤦 classism and entertainment has done more damage to the black community than racism and Jim Crow combined

[@elizabethszwed7851]

😂🤡 clown show

I hope You two break from those chains you still cling to. BTW Adelle was wondering why Nikole Hannah is Culturally appropriating that hair style.

[@louishollandjr]

You mad cause your wife not as Beautiful.

[@Peppyroni247]

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