Nikon Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.8: Nikon Z Reconsidered

Nikon took a lot of flack when it launched the Z6 & 7. With the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.8, I think it's time to reconsider Nikon and applaud them.
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[@Tompie913]

If anyone has any doubts about the Z lenses, I beseech them to try out the 50 1.8 S. It is simply incredible for a fairly light $600 lens. Excellent as the Sony 55 1.8 is, I think the Nikkor even resides a tier above it, and at a lower price.

[@3BMEP]

Tompie913 I love it!

[@FrederickDunn]

You Sir, are a top tier presenter. Thank you, coffee break well spent and 85 ordered... we live in amazing times. My video work is now as critical as my still images and the Z Bodies and Lenses are fast becoming my most grabbed gear. I wish you well.

[@3BMEP]

🙏🏻 Enjoy them!

[@jtes1442]

I love my Z6 . It’s a joy to use . The new firmware has helped a lot with the AF . Though the AF is not at Sony’s level I’m still able to do what I need to with the Z6 . Love using for portraits and landscapes . Looking forward to the 85 1.8 .

[@guyjordan8201]

Photography will be poorer without Nikon. Best success indeed.

[@DeanAllman]

I’ve been very happy with my Z6. It’s a lot of fun to use, captures great images and video, and works very well with Nikon lenses that I own that go back 40 years. I’m into photography first and foremost, and this camera delivers in a lot of ways. Really glad I ignored all the buzz in the beginning from people anxious to get their vids up on KZbin. It’s been delightful.

[@3BMEP]

I'm delighted for you!

Nikon's Z-Mount lens selections are really starting to make sense to me now, optically excellent, practically priced, and sized to match the mirrorless body almost perfectly. You're evaluation (as usual) is spot on Hugh.

[@3BMEP]

Carl Ryan 🙏🏻

[@lcador9]

I agree but am a bit perplexed by the larger form factor of the 85mm offering in comparison with both the 1.8 and 1.4 F-mount alternatives with z-adapter attached. For the price (used) and potential outcomes the 1.4 F-mount with adapter may well remain a more attractive alternative, and more so if it already resides in ones bag.

[@stanspb763]

@@lcador9 The S lens will be sharper with less CA than the 1.4G and half the price. I have the 1.4 D, G and 1.8G and use them on the Z6 and used them on the D850 before selling it, and use them on my D800. I have 4 S lenses now and each is better optically than their more expensive F mount. The 24-70 2.8 S is optically the best mid zoom available on any mount. The f/4 version is optically superior to either the 24-70 2.8 G or E versions. The 50mm 1.8 is spectacularly sharp corner to corner as is the 35. So we see a trend here and expect the 85 1.8 to be a killer lens. When testing the 24-70 f/4 S "kit lens" against both my 2.8 G and E the night I brought my Z6 home showed up weaknesses I never noticed with the F mounts before, Seeing such strong corners is not what we have learned to expect for any lens wide open but it was there, clearly visible. Later when the 2.8 version came out, the near-perfect little f4 showed weaknesses in comparison to the 2.8, but in very minor ways. The 24-70 2.8 S version at 50mm is better corner to corner than any 50 prime I have(5 in the 50-58mm range). The only lens I have that is marginally better is the 50 1.8 S. A zoom that performs like that is found nowhere else in the industry. And we are just at the beginning of the roadmap. The 70-200 2.8 S is very anxiously awaited. It will probably be $2500-2800 so I am saving now. F mounts work well on the FTZ but they chatter with activity constantly with focusing and VR.

[@derrysam1990]

Hey, is there an update to this video? Looking forward to your review of 85mm 1.8s. :) Thanks

[@camilo8cheryl]

nikon Z6 and S primes lenses sparked my passion again for photography..before i always lug around my D750 24-70 2.8/70-200 2.8..how heavy it was and intimidating. now i look like a normal tourist again, can shoot anywhere without intimidating people..i almost went for Sony A7iii but i have waited..waited.. then finally came the Z series..

[@250157andyw]

Excellent commentary as always Hugh, so thanks, as always. I got a Z7 with 24-70 f4 yesterday and spent the afternoon setting up and test driving. I am an instant convert :) The Z7 delivers something quite close to what I would expect technology to be able to deliver in 2019. Just having so many settings so easily and consistently available through the i button is a revelation. It was a Wow moment for me. I am suddenly committed to migrating from my D810 and F mount lens set, including having the 85 f1.8 S on pre-order. Keep up the good work ... I shall be watching!

[@3BMEP]

Delighted for you - enjoy!

[@nospam-hn7xm]

Was there ever a review given of the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.8 S lens once it was released? If so, I cannot find it. Would appreciate it if someone could point out that video.

[@jonhellerphotography]

I have shot nothing but Nikon in my 27 year career and decided to jump in with both feet on the Z6 for film making. I have to say this is the best Nikon I have ever used! I almost feel like I’m carrying around my old FE2 and all the freedom I had with that camera to play.

[@3BMEP]

Jon Heller Delighted for you!

[@grendelz]

I just bought a Z7 based entirely on the strength of the lenses at the price point they are offered. I believe great things are in store for this mount in the future.

[@timkitchen7141]

I absolutely LOVE my Z6 even compared to my D850. I haven't had a chance to try the 85mm prime yet, but the 35mm and 50mm are simply amazing. Nikon should be commended for the Z-series cameras and lenses. They are great!

[@ericleszkowicz898]

The performance of the 24-70 f4 is truly amazing. I can't believe how good this lens is. Give them credit they are cranking out small and great lenses whereas Canon is making the biggest lenses ever.

[@charleswilson8023]

I have a Z6 and Z7 and the 24 to 70 2.8 and the 50mm 1.8, I was a Sony guy and got extremely tired of paying 2k for each lenses. I can tell you Nikon is the sleeper. Nikon is doing a great job. Can't wait to see what they do next. And I can tell you the new Z glass can hold its own against any Sony G Master lenses and your wallet want be extremely empty.

[@theory8sf]

We definitely need Nikon to succeed! I have the Nikon Z6 and oh man it’s great especially video!

[@timo6573]

My sad assumption is, if there were gold rings on these lenses, no one would question the price. Thanks for the great video.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

I'm so grateful the lenses are aesthetically understated, and not Trump/Middle Eastern dictator chic circa 1985.

[@peterlemke3468]

That may be true but if they were gold ring glass one would expect better build quality. As a Nikon user l've noticed the general decline in quality of Nikon lenses over the last 10 years.

[@3BMEP]

@@peterlemke3468 I understand. As noted, though, look at it differently: this kind of construction is the tradeoff for AF speed, silence, weather resistance, IQ, and affordability. No DSLR lens from Canon or Nikon other than the highest end pro telephotos approaches the build quality of my 1967 Canon FL 50mm f/1.8, for example, but that little guy weighs a LOT -- and doesn't hold a candle to the newest highest quality mirrorless glass. The Nikkor 105/1.4 is awesome as another example, but it is a beast.

[@gbye007]

@@peterlemke3468 What is it about the new S lenses that represents a decline in quality? Optically they are a match for Zeiss Otus. They are different looking, but so are the shirts you wear compared to 5 years ago.

[@peterlemke3468]

@@gbye007 My comment pertained to build quality not optical quality. I've handled a few of them but not shot with them. I think Nikon's lenses generally over say the last 8-10 years aren't that well built certainly some of the 1.8 G ones l've bought. Only time will tell how well the Z lenses hold up. I'm not a fan of the OLED screen it's one more thing that can break or degrade. They certainly don't feel like a premium product and l much prefer the build of the Zuiko and Fujinon lenses.

[@ronaldmoravec2692]

Now that I have my 85, I must say Nikon has delivered. At 80 years old small and light are of great value. Therefor my kit is new 26 2.8, 40 2.0, and 85 4.0. Thinking about the 50 although I just bought a 50 1.8 G for $135 in perfect condition because my 1.4 did not auto focus to infinity and I did not like 1.4 manual focus or auto focus anyway and many have been tried. The new one hunts a little so it is limited with Z +ftz when you need fast AF. The pics are absolutely brilliant. The 40 was to replace 35 & 50 and it does it well for me. Con`t complain for $300.

[@peterlemke3468]

Good to see you cut Nikon some slack. Mirrorless is a long term work in progress for them but at least they got the body ergonomics largely right. Nice to see some M4/3 💖 too Hugh!

[@simonshaffer]

Not sure how many occasions I've seen this particular review, 5, 6 times? Not sure; but hold that thought. What's more important, not to mention interesting is the fact that I've just gone out into the wild and got one, thanks for your views. Regards. I

[@vision-gc4hy]

You have a beautiful voice. I never care about what anyone thinks about this camera versus that camera when there is so much choice out there, but I can listen to you talk all day long.

[@3BMEP]

Russell Mondy Thank you!

[@mr.meowmeow505]

Though I doubt the masses are calling for it, and your insights here go some of the distance, would be great to see you revisit the lens with even more hindsight :)

[@danny_r27]

I have longed looked for the chromatic aberration you speak of from the Leica 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron and I have yet to find any. I’d say it’s the sharpest lens I own. Underneath it are the Olympus 12-40 2.8 and Leica 8-18mm in terms of IQ. While the Leica 25mm f/1.4 Summilux isn’t as sharp, it’s still one of my favorite lenses to have on my G9 or compact GX85 body. Along with the L Monochrome picture profile makes for one serious set up. Light gathering is far more important to me than shallow depth of field. MFT offers equal light gathering at a smaller size. Albeit my main lenses aren’t exactly small except for the Olympus 17mm 1.8 (that’s exclusively used on my GX85) and the Leica 25mm. I have yet to try out the Olympus 75mm 1.8 which is said to be the sharpest lens for the system. Maybe one day, but for now I’m saving up for the near perfect Leica 50-200mm f/2.8-4. That’s the final lens to complete my perfect kit. The G9 and GX85 bodies along with the Leica 8-18, Oly 12-40mm, Oly 17mm, Leica 25mm, Leica 42.5mm, and the soon to have Leica 50-200mm will finish out the kit I’ve been building for nearly 4 years. I always love your appreciation for the Micro Four Thirds system as hardly any other channel out there does anymore.

[@3BMEP]

danny _r27 Glad you’re experience with Nocticron has been without flaw. I find many modern lenses - even the best - exhibit longitudinal chromatic aberration in video that I cannot correct in post. With this said, the 50-200 Vario Elmarit is an INCREDIBLE piece of glass and has not gotten its due. We love it. Thanks for sharing your experiences with m43!

[@FreshWaterLake]

Great video! I invested in the Z6 because it met my price range for a camera that was equal part strong at both photography and video. Coming up from the D750 the video capabilities alone were worth the purchase. It came down to the the A7III and the Z6 for what I needed in a single system, I mean what else is out there for that price range for an all-in-one camera (in later 2018)? At the time I was using the A7SII at work and was very pleased with the video output of that camera so I knew first hand that Sony could deliver on the video side. For me, the ergonomics of the Z6 faired much better in terms of comfort in my hand and ultimately became the deciding factor. I have shot a fair amount of video with the Z6 coupled with the Atomos Ninja V and it's been terrific. 10-bit has been glorious and I'm eagerly anticipating Atomos' 12-bit firmware update. I have the 24-70 f4 and the 50 1.8 native Z lenses and they've been fantastic. The 24-70 has been my video workhorse lens and the 50mm is so good at single portrait shoots. On a side note, the Z6 was the first system I have used for video tap-to-focus and that is simply glorious (being a run-and-gun videographer).

[@rob31hockey]

I always pass on watching your videos when going through my subscriptions, but then ultimately watch every one of them. There is something so satisfying about your cadence when you speak and the balance between high level technical specifications and laymen speak. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@bohdanbonka]

Nikon Z 28-75 mm f/2,8 has a range to replace a 35, 50 and 85 primes. I feel like when taking pictures with it i am gonna feel a letdown when compared to the speed and crisp of 1,8 35, 50 or 85. I kind of got used to changing lenses and I found i dont wanna compromise on image quality. What is your opinion on thi Hugh

[@youssefhamidi8152]

I would love to see a 65mm or 75mm 1.8/2 from Nikon that would be a little smaller than the 85mm.

[@vitorguimaraes6443]

For me that I have been photographing for over 40 years, the main point in a camera is ergonomics, mirrorless cameras for me are perfect nonsense, when I get a new dslr I immediately add the handle, not to have more autonomy, but to ensure better balance when I put on a 1kg lens, when I sometimes put on a 0.5kg flash, unless the accessories start weighing 1 tenth, for me the mirrorless, are toys for rich amateurs ..

[@TheCallie52809]

I was a Sony user who switched to Nikon. I agree with your assessment but you didn't talk about the three zooms currently available in the Z line. I own two of them and they're downright impressive.

[@3BMEP]

Andre L. I’ve got the 24-70/2.8 and 14-30 in-house for review. 24-70 is excellent- haven’t worked with the 14-30 yet. Hold that thought.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

I also really want Nikon to be successful, but their current strategy is just to stay alive. During the DLSR era, they were fine being #2, and now they're fine being #3. I'm not sure it's the best strategy, especially in a contracting market. They're releasing lenses way too slowly, I think they need to do something more drastic, like open their Z-mount to third parties, or form an alliance to use the E mount (there's a third party adapter that lets you use FE glass on the Z mount, imagine if Sony and Nikon cooperate and make a perfect adapter). I'm just brainstorming now, to find some ideas of how they could survive.

[@SandipanBiswas]

Nikon is doing just fine. Stop being over dramatic. Nikon still makes some of the best cameras and lenses. Even today the nikon D850 DSLR is considered the best all round DSLR by most. Have you even used a Nikon Z6? If a company's first FF mirror-less offering is as good as Z6 is, I wonder what they are going to be in the subsequent generation.

[@1dbjack]

Well said. Recently I purchased the Z6 with the 50 1.8 and have been completely blown away by the image quality. The camera also fits in my hands extremely well. I've preordered the 85 and will soon buy the 35 as well. The 24 will eventually find its way into my bag as well. I am hoping for a killer 135mm that rivals or exceeds the Milvus f2. I feel a round of Gear Acquisition Syndrome coming... and that is a very good thing. Photography is becoming fun again. Long live the Z system!

[@3BMEP]

I like your choices!

[@MichaelLaing71]

I must admit to being rather critical of the Z mount cameras, which I think were an example of managements idea of what a camera should be, forgetting some of the little details, which photographers like. But I do completely understand Nikon not releasing high end lenses to begin with (and now they are). With Canon and Panasonic, they have released camera lenses, aimed at professionals or people with too much money to spend on equipment. This makes no sense with the Canon, where the cameras have been mid range at best. Canon has gone with decent lenses, which may be slightly over priced (though that is subjective) but they are far more tempting for non professional photographers to buy (and some pro's). So I think Nikon has been smart with their lens choice. It should also be noted that whilst Nikon announced the 58mm f/0.95 Noct, upon the release of the Z mount system, the lens still has not been released, almost a year later. So Nikon is going full tilt into the more affordable lenses and the f/2.8 zooms, which are the bread and butter of many a pro.

[@barrycohen311]

I can't help but wonder if it is like a new model car, in its first year of release. A "Rev 1.0" as it were. Perhaps a but buggy and quirky with some oversights. Hopefully Nikon will get it right in subsequent versions. Case in point- The early Sony mirrorless cameras which overheated like a mofo, and had various other quirks.

[@dmitry.sh.8946]

There is 35 1.8G ED, is it worth changing to 35 1.8Z, will there be a difference in sharpness and resolution?

[@TheEastbelfast]

We are waiting on your review of the Z 85mm 1.8 🤔

[@salalessandro]

As usual, an opinion dictated by emotions and love for the craft. Thanks for being one of the few guys that doesn’t look (or not looks too much) at specifications but at the heart and meaning of a product. It's very sane and refreshing!

[@3BMEP]

So appreciate your kind words!

[@ericvaughan11]

Well by now you I’m sure you own the 85mm f/1.8 S and know they again knocked it out of the park with this lens. I thought this was great video and I wish more people out there would watch this and realize the Nikon Z system is not as bad as a lot of people when they first reviewed it said it was. I love my Z system and all of lenses they have put out, my Nikon DSLR are going up for sale.

[@cactustweeter2890]

I love my Z 6 both for photos and video.

[@3BMEP]

Cactus Tweeter so glad you’re enjoying it!

[@cronufc]

I recently jumped from a D780 to a Z6ii and haven't looked back. The D780, whilst it had a great sensor (I believe the same sensor as the Z6ii) had a poor grip (compared to my old D750) and shocking build quality (I replaced 3 of the leather pieces within the space of 18 months). The Z6ii on the other hand has stellar build quality, a super comfortable grip, and the 35mm 1.8s is blowing me away every time I use it. My other concerns around battery life, EVF lag and boot up time are also non-existent in reality. As such, I am currently selling my Nikon 50mm 1.4G and 85mm 1.8G and have the new 85mm 1.8s on order and cannot wait to start using it for weddings, portraits and landscapes. I sincerely hope they will bring out a 105mm (non-macro) or 135mm lens soon, as these are two of my favourite focal lengths.

[@3BMEP]

Reads like a great call to me! Enjoy!

[@NomadicWoodsman]

I love my z6. Can't wait for a wildlife lens with lots of zoom for it !

[@nickmorgan5933]

I know this video is approaching 2 years old, but it's still spot on. I've just sold off my sigma art 14, 40, and 85. All are amazing lenses, but they don't do anything the Z lenses can't do cheaper and much lighter. The lens you end up with in you bag because it's smaller and lighter beats the heavy slightly faster lens you leave at home every time. These nikon lenses are seriously underrated. All the youtube comments focus literally and figuratively on eye AF. However, I mostly shoot astro, and these lenses are stunningly sharp all the way to the corners in the most demanding applications. The Sigma Art 40 is the gold standard of wide astro lenses. The 50m 1.8s comes really really close and the 35 1.8s is every bit as good for half the size, half the weight, and half the price. I don't feel like the lens performance is talked about enough. I loved my 70-200 Vrii f-mount lens, but when I upgraded to the 2.8s I was blown away. It is stunningly sharp.

[@3BMEP]

Continue to enjoy!

[@edwinparker6732]

Props to Nikon for choosing to start with sensible maximum aperture primes, although I would have loved to see what they could have done with an F:2.0 trinity 🙂

[@3BMEP]

Great idea! Leica did it with the Summicron-M series and is now doing it again with the Summicron-SL.

[@youngalwyn1124]

Edwin Parker - Did you intend to type “F/1.2 trinity?”

[@peterlemke3468]

@@youngalwyn1124 l think he was referring to zooms not primes.

[@edwinparker6732]

F:2.0 and primes is all I need, otherwise there are too many choices to make 😁

[@whenderson7742]

Excellent video, Nikon has been slow but they have the know how to return to the top of the heap. I’m a long time Nikon/Leica shooter from the 70’s. I have used Sony mirrorless extensively and they are currently best in class unless you are required to change settings frequently. Nikon is not going to fold its tent and go away, but they did miss the first train on mirrorless and the explosion of video. My guess they will catch up at a lower price point as will Canon....the great news is innovation is moving at warp speed and that benefits all of us!

[@Tallontherocks]

You remind me of the architect from the matrix movie. Even sound like him. 😁

[@3BMEP]

Not a bad thing! 😊

[@nickleach3570]

Love your work and videos! Love the link to Star trek in this one! Brilliant! :) I was a Nikon guy until I brought a Fujifilm X100 years ago. Now I couldn't imagine using any but Fuji, they inspire the art of photography through giving you easy access to the only 3 controls you need, shuttler speed, aperture and ISO.

[@ArthurPJohnson]

Bravo, Hugh! I was about to object that you hadn’t mentioned the autofocus shortcomings of the Z-cams, but you did slip it in at the end. I agree about Nikon;s mirrorless lens strategy, which seems to be refreshingly unlike Canon’s impressive-but-ridiculously-impractical mirrorless lens lineup. Nikon is producing stellar LITTLE gems in these lenses, so that the Z-Cams will not simply replicate Nikon’s already-Fantastic DSLR lineup, but actually allow photographers to pack light and take Nikon-class photographs. This is a great post, Hugh, and I applaud you for it.

[@3BMEP]

Arthur Johnson Arthur! Thank you, my friend!

"Canon’s impressive-but-ridiculously-impractical" And that's the truth.

[@ericerickson6537]

I love the Z6. It’s wonderful.

[@3BMEP]

eric erickson thrilled for you!

[@stephenscharf6293]

Nice video, Hugh! I agree with you on all points. Personally, I think the "camera public & press" were unrealistic for "excoriating" Nikon for launching the Z system with "only" three lenses. Its important to remember Fujifilm launched X with only 3 lenses as well, & nobody took them to task for it in the way they did to Nikon (or Canon). It takes _time_ to do the R&D for an entirely new line of lenses, and IMHO, folks need to get a grip on reality and understand they can't have everything, all at once, yesterday. The Amazon Prime fulfillment model doesn't work for superior optics product development. BTW, all the pros I know that bought a Z-body really love it, and, none of them gave second thought to switching to another brand "just to go to mirrorless". Cheers! -Stephen.

[@hovek1988]

I love your narration and unbiased delivery! I'm just on the edge of switching from my long standing Nikon DSLRs to Z6, and man oh man the reason is just what you said... size and performance of the lenses. I'm gonna subscribe and see how it goes for now.

[@3BMEP]

hovek1988 Welcome!

[@sadenb]

Smaller lenses are always preferable for hobbyists like me. It has enough subject separation and are lighter for traveling. And honestly, I use my camera mostly for recording moments while traveling or other family moments. For that , these lenses are awesome. I ordered the Sony 35 f/1.8 because I am beginning to like the wide angle field of view for portrait and also for street photos. I am getting a bit weary of the kit lens and I am beginning to love these fast primes.

[@3BMEP]

YES!

[@jshanni2066]

The reference that really piqued my interest was the praise for the G9/75 Oly combo. That lens is one of the m43 primes that I've long wanted but never used. And the Nocticron with the L.monoD output is simply beautiful. None of which has anything to do with the Z system, of course. A system that I hope is successful because the more choice we have, the better.

[@3BMEP]

L-Monochrome D and the Nocticron are a killer combo.

[@BrianIrwin]

Hugh, to add another little detail to your comparison of the Sigma Art 50mm f1.4 vs the Sony 55mm f1.8, I have both lenses and used to love both of them. For DoF i guess the Sigma has the edge (I have not done a side by side test), but if you look at DXO Mark, for light to the sensor, the gains are even less than from F/1.4 to f/1.8 The Sigma has light transmission if T 1.7 or T1.8 depending on the test. Passing through all of those wonderfully crisp elements chews up some light and the smaller Sony/Zeiss is 1.8 T-stops. I almost never take out my Sigma EF 50mm, but will chuck the FE 55 into my back as a bonus lens, I am not ready to part with the Sigma yet, but it is getting pretty dusty.

[@3BMEP]

What a GREAT tidbit! LOVE that you brought up actual light transmission! I see these differences all the time. Thanks, Brian!

[@sadenb]

Can you a video on the Sony Zooms and what is your general impression ?

[@ferdinandmanuel4643]

i think it's the stigma from the old 1.8 lenses. i adapt my m mount lenses (35 f2 and 75 f2.4) on my z6 and they are superb!

[@3BMEP]

The Summicrons make so much sense to me!

[@erica.kantchev6144]

Sony also has a 50mm f/1.8. This may cause the conclusions of your comparison a bit different (in size and price) than with 55 mm f/1.8 Zeiss.

[@3BMEP]

Fair enough. I don’t consider the FE SEL 50/1.8 in the same league, but your point is well taken.

[@nealeblackburn6019]

Very happy with my Z6 and the new firmware has answered some of my quibbles re auto focus for the sports I cover.. D5 is still the work horse but I'm finding more excuses to use this one and when it comes to my wedding and indoor work silent shooting is the future

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for sharing your take!

[@ronboe6325]

For 99% of my shooting I'm well above f/4. I do have a sigma 105mm f/1.4 for that 1%. So I shoot the heck out of my 24-70mm f/4, while rarely touching the 14-30mm (I have hopes, it's a range I use a lot on the D500). The 24-70mm kicks butt and takes names. With all this hand wringing over specs (and they are good specs) composition is still king - I think we tend to loose sight of that. Having an f/1.2 lense vs an f/4 is usually just for bragging rights. As another youtuber that does mostly landscape work observed; shooting at f/5.6 or higher, carrying around an f/2.8 lense with all the extra weight and cost simply did not make sense all else being equal.

[@kennypringle4580]

As much as I consider going Nikon mirrorless, I shoot events and weddings and NEED dual card slots. I shoot for other businesses where I turn over one card to them as soon as the shoot is over while keeping the second card for my own edits and website. A one card camera body won’t cut it for me🤷🏻‍♂️

[@3BMEP]

Kenny Pringle fair enough!

[@dorianelliott2372]

Very thoughtful commentary.

[@dallasthomas5489]

Great video Hugh. I agree with your comments, being Z7 shooter and D850 owner (I’ve only used it twice in 8 months). I love the EVF & IBIS.

[@3BMEP]

Dallas Thomas Thanks for weighing in!

[@TheGeoDaddy]

IF you had to choose between the “best” lenses for manual focusing for the Z6 (ie using the Rhino Arc II / Focus slider) would you opt for: Nikkor Z 35mm 1.8S ($850) AF-S Nikkor 35mm 1.4G ($1500!) Sigma ART 35mm 1.4DG HSM ($650) Sigma has been recommended, as the Nikkor is overpriced... but - while fitting the Z lens directly onto the Z6 - has slight advantages... I heard you can’t EXACTLY pull focus with Z lenses based on exact position of the manual focus ring??? It’s electronic and relies on autofocus to correct.

[@gbye007]

Another great video. These three primes from Nikon will give you more 'perceptual MegaPixels" improvement than the jump from 45MP to 60MP in the new A7RIV, although I'll take both for sure. The bokeh on the 85mm Z lens sample shots from Nikon looks gorgeous as well.

[@jasonn4397]

Always refreshing and insightful, Hugh. Thank you for being truthful and educational.

[@3BMEP]

Jason N my pleasure and privilege. 🙏🏻

[@skylark_media]

does anybody else find the focus motor in this lens much louder than the other Z lenses

[@Demas242]

When it comes to overall value and IQ for the MFT system, the Oly 75/1.8 ranks no.1, hands down.

[@stanspb763]

MFT only is considered of value when comparing within that company's products. Compare Oly with other Oly for a good relative indication just as the Nikon charts only relate to their standard test method within the brand.

[@1dbjack]

Well the new 85 has arrived, all I can say is OMG. Would love to hear your thoughts on it of course. It is going to be a while, a long while before I have the skills to properly it through its paces. Anxious to get the 24mm as I suspect it will be good as well and a wondervfulstreet photography too!.

[@3BMEP]

David Jackson working to get both in-house shortly! In the meantime: enjoy!

[@vickosis]

Ahahahaha ... not quite sure why exactly but you made me laugh (in a good way) during this preview. Love your story like presentation and your vocal tone, not to mention the speed and manner of delivery of the facts which makes me wonder if you poses some sort of super human abilities (like photographic memory) and on top of everything I couldn't agree more about what you said about Nikon and what they have accomplished in a relatively short period of time. Now I too am very interested in the Z 85mm and would love to hear your after thoughts only I can't find the follow up video. Hmmm ... I heard a rumour the 85mm might suffer from a little focus breathing, which I guess you might not be overly happy about. Mind you this probably isn't a huge issue for most who don't intend on using the 85mm for any sort of video work and are only concerned about how it compares to all the other Z primes. I saw a few decent reviews on it already which has tempted me sufficiently enough already, but it would be even more pleasing to hear your personal views on a lens you appeared quite keen on last year ... even if it's to say it's not as good as their 50mm :)

[@ElvisVikic]

Your video quality and presentation are so nice. I could watch you talk about mundane things and it would look and sounds nice.

[@troyphillips1077]

A little journey of the thought process that came in at the end real nice . Thanks and I think Nikons plan is a smart one . Do wish the Z6 and Z7 were a little more polished. But the lenses optically are very good especially for the price . Have heard the build is subpar .

[@3BMEP]

They are not Leicas nor are they Nikon F2s - but I don’t think they should be.

[@stanspb763]

You should try one before making rumors your knowledge. The Panasonic S1 and Z Nikon's are the best built and finished cameras out in mirrorless. Really solid. Other than the questionable tracking in some modes of AF, what is unpolished about these cameras? They are on another plane above Sony build and polish. Sony uses the cheapest parts that will last the warranty period unless it rains or the camera is dropped then it is totaled. The flange plate is the flimsiest in the industry and barely can support a lens without cracking. There are videos out there of people able to break them with the bare hands. Without weather sealing, it can be a very expensive mistake to shoot outdoors if there is any chance of rain.

[@troyphillips1077]

Stan SPb I’m getting ready to pull the trigger on a z6. Thanks for the reply

[@pauldanesiphotography]

Thank you for giving me hope that my purchase of the Z6 when it first came out was not a blunder. I still have my D500, but my camera of choice is the Z6. My photos are sharp, the viewfinder makes exposure almost flawless, and it is a little slow focusing for sports shooting, but if you track the right subject, it will be breathtaking. Hate all the negative from "experts". This amateur thinks Nikon hit a home run on their first time at bat. Your video was awesome!

[@3BMEP]

Paul Danesi glad to be of service! 😊

[@wirinharwirjawan6422]

Awesome info you have been delivering to many of us. Thank you so very much, Sir.

[@VilkanVisions]

Star Trek

[@DougFenrich]

All fine and good, and thank you for this great review.... But I have far too invested in NIKKOR GLASS starting with the 80-200 2.8 and the 12 other lenses that I have to TRY to sell to recoup some monies to Buy NEW.

[@bujabusiness]

Thanks so much for this video. As much as I love the Sony A7r4 (in theory) I don't need 60mp, nor do I want to computer up for it. I shoot primes. I want ibis (the only thing that keeps me from fuji) and I want both a high res viewfinder and rear screen.... and eye detect. The z6 with the 50 and 85mm primes may be exactly what I am looking for. And I never would have looked at them without watching this.

[@3BMEP]

Please keep me apprised of your journey!

[@peterlemke3468]

Keep your eye out for the Fuji X-H2 it will have IBIS.

[@razbiton173]

When will we get the 85 1.8S review??? :)

[@c.augustin]

I so wish that Nikon can make it. I always loved their old manual-focus cameras and lenses (left them for Canon for autofocus, but never loved what I got). I should take a closer look at the Z6 and the lens offerings …

[@3BMEP]

Christian Augustin please keep me posted!

[@bernardlang]

There is not even the slightest concern that they may not make it. They have always delivered better than competition within a few years of entering a segment.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

A thoroughly enjoyable and thought provoking monologue. I'm torn between the 1.8 glass or waiting for the 1.2 next year and building a 1.2 collection slowly.

[@3BMEP]

🙏🏻

[@peterlemke3468]

You'd better start saving that fast glass won't come cheap.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@peterlemke3468 I could probably manage maybe 2 over the next 2 years, but yes, they're pricey, and look like huge and heavy which means they may be no compromise on optical quality, so more suited to studio work and not a hobbyist returning to photography.

[@JohnSmith-hm2ow]

I know one thing for sure buddy! If Nikon releases a new 35mm or 85mm 1.2 i bet that thing is gonna cost 3000 dollars.🥺

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@JohnSmith-hm2ow Gosh, i hope not, I wish they'd do 1.4s around the price of Sony's.

[@johnhjic2]

Some interesting thoughts as always. I am hopping that is 2020 I will replace my love D800e with on of the Z cameras just as with a lot of people I am getting older :). I an so happy with the kit I have both form Nikon and Hasselblad I just do not see or what to change just for fashion. I have look at both the Z6 and Z7 both very nice but for what I do my D850 is supper. If I do get a Z camera am I then having to get one more set of lenses or just stick to the adaptor? I know that all my PC-E lenses work on the Z7 with the FTZ adaptor I have tested them. But (HOLD THAT THOUGHT) it is so nice to see some one giving Nikon so good press. I will look forward to see some of your test with this 85mm if you get your hands on one. Thank you for one more video.

[@3BMEP]

John Hughes if you love what you have...Then again, even Ansel Adams traded down to smaller, lighter kit (which in those days WAS Hassy!).

[@charleswilson8023]

Great Video I am not a Nikon Fan boy but I am a practical photographer that is dedicated to the art. And I couldn't agree with every point that you brought out in the video. Thank you....I am a tech guy, I have worked in IT for 25 years. So I love gear. With that aside. Let's be artist and practical. Nikon is practical... Let be artist and bring that to society... Thank you Again for simply a good solid video.....

[@sanchayansarkar2953]

1.4 is not required in my opinion . Other things are also important

[@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle]

If I had been involved in design and marketing for these lenses I would have made them f2.0 lenses thereby leaving behind the 'consumer' association with f1.8 and underlining this was a new breed of high performance but relatively compact lenses.

[@3BMEP]

Yes!

[@3BMEP]

Agreed!

[@garfieldirwin]

Agree completely. Considering f1.2 looks to be the new f1.4, these new f1.8's are a perfect blend of performance, size, weight and price for 95% of Z owners. The fact is Nikon nailed it when designing these lenses, which will become even obvious to the luddites as time passes.

[@arielrglaze]

Nikon Z glass is fantastic, but the AF :( and AF controls just don’t feel right for me. The thumb control in the back should work more like Fuji X-T3, and the AF points on screen would be nicer if it were done the sony way

[@3BMEP]

Fair enough!

[@bricemyfoto8907]

What isnt talked about is that these arent your old generation 1.8 lenses The F4 24-70 is great general use. Cant imagine how stellar 1.4 S lenses would be..

[@ianmacfarlane7516]

Thank You for this insightful commentary on Nikon & the Z lineup. I am an amateur and appreciate the Z6 and the Lens selection. I have committed to the mirror less idea for my future. For me it was a gamble to enter a system that will remain viable for years, as I only upgrade when something fails. Most of my Photography is Family & Vacation, so I mostly prefer a deeper dept of field, to show that family was there and also to see the sights. Full Stop

[@3BMEP]

Ian MacFarlane Thanks for joining the conversation!

[@radkrishr]

This is awesome! You sir is a gem of a reviewer with such unbiased perspectives and narration! I am still on the fence with the Z systems not for the absence of the dual card slot but for the lack of a usable battery grip! I am sure will get there some day!

[@stanspb763]

Nikon Korea has filed for product registration for the grip that includes an RF emitter so it needs to be certified like in every country. The RF emitter suggests the grip has Bluetooth which would allow the grip to control any camera function. This sound interesting. I have grips on all my DSLR and expected to get one for the Z6/7 but after using it for 8 months I knew by the first week I did not need it since it would detract from the small size which is one of its very attractive features. It is also very comfortable to hold vertically so even if available I might not get it.

[@ChrispyArt]

As a NIKON shooter with a Z6 coming from D850 and D810 I love this video. Reflects my change in lens collection going lighter. Yet those Z lenses offer better optical performance. I’m still on Sigma Art lenses but I’d like to have the Z lenses for their weight and size and video af capabilities

[@3BMEP]

Happy to be of service. 😉

[@hagarthehorrible1391]

Here's my wishlist for the Z system: 1. 17-35 2.8 2. Dual card bodies. (I have experienced card failure mid shoot at a wedding. So I'm wary even though the xqd is superior than SD) Rest of the lenses I would need have been released or will be released this year. So close to switching from my D750.

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for weighing in.

[@sunking9050]

Pradhyumna Gupta card failure is a non issue and always has been. The camera Is just as likely to fail as the xqd card

[@hagarthehorrible1391]

@@sunking9050 camera failure can be just as likely as card failure but most wedding photographers shoot with 2 cameras. If a camera does fail they still have another camera to cover the wedding. But if a card fails and we are unable to retrieve the images from it, it's a disaster for the couple.

[@sunking9050]

Pradhyumna Gupta I transfer my photos to my iPad using WiFi as they are taken

[@stanspb763]

@@hagarthehorrible1391 That is why pros do not use SD cards, they are not intended for critical applications. They were not designed for any criteria than being very cheap to add to cameras. The XQD is many times more reliable by design and it uses a much more advanced bus, the PCIe+ whereas the SD cards are on dumb buses of the same architecture as the 1984 floppy disk.

[@ivanguerra1260]

Man, what a kilometric speech, nanonano Mr. Speak !!

[@GOKULLRAU]

Hello, one question - what camera do you use to record your videos? They look superb.

[@3BMEP]

Gokul Rao Kadam we always (almost always 😉) list our gear in the show notes below each vid. In this case, it was the Nikon Z7 with Z 50/1.8 - fantastic combo. We usually rely on our Panasonic GH5 with Sigma 30/1.4, but we also use our Sony a6400 with wither E 50/1.8 OSS or FE 28/2.0z

[@GOKULLRAU]

Thank you ! I have watched many videos of your’s but this video’s image quality looks brilliant & stands out.

[@3BMEP]

Gokul Rao Kadam agreed!

[@shiznuts]

Concerning lenses. Did you do a video on the Leica 10-25mm f/1.7 yet? Can't see it and was wondering about your thoughts! :D

[@3BMEP]

Not yet, but high on my list!

[@shiznuts]

Cool beans! :D One local store here is dropping it by 200 EUR for the next few days, so I will really be sleeping on that (MSRP 1999 EUR).

[@LuisDiegoRamirezE]

Where are the f1.2 lenses all nikon devs used to talk about when they launched the Z mount, they are holding back for sure.

[@torbjrnvrebekk3178]

According to the lens roadmap the 50mm f1.2 is coming out next year. As for more 1.2 lenses there are 4 un-announced lenses coming next year, and 8 coming in 2021, so with some luck there will be some more 1.2 options then ;)

[@EarlyBirdJP]

My favorite camera guy.

[@3BMEP]

🙏🏻😊

[@leerothman7570]

I must admit I wrote Nikon off when the Panasonic S Series was released and now the Sony A7RIV. But I've been seeing some reviews revealing significant noise from ISO800 on up in the new Sony which I happen to be a hater of ISO noise. Nikon seems to have done well in this area, and once again I'll be keeping my eyes open for the Z7. Next spring I'll be jumping on a new mount. I'm doubting Canon will be entering the game with something competitive. As you say "hold that thought". ;-) Nice ending with the Aaronic Blessing hand move

[@keithgoreham1463]

If you dislike ISO noise, you should be considering the Panasonic S1. The first big batch of new Panasonic and Sigma lenses will be hitting next month. Blowing away what Nikon currently has available. After that, Nikon will be hopelessly trying to catch up their lens offerings with what the L-mount alliance will be rolling out at double their pace, and what both Sony and Fuji already have available. I just don’t see how they can win that race.

[@leerothman7570]

@@keithgoreham1463 Yeah I had a chance to work with a S1 and their 24-105 for several weeks. To me that is what has set the bar for LOW noise at higher ISO's. At 12,800 it was like most others at ISO1600. GREAT color rendition and superb sharpness without artifacts. I'm still thinking REAL hard of a S1R next spring when I make the jump. I'm NOT convinced the A7RIV is all that and a bag of chips for my usage. The build on the S1 to ME was intoxicating. I LOVE that DSLR feel and build quality and not so much the tiny lightweight aspects of so many others. It's a personal thing indeed. The build quality and feature selections on the body are brilliant compared to virtually ALL other mirrorless cameras out there. Guess time will tell. If Canon were to come out with a R Pro with at least 8fps with focus, a 5.7mp viewfinder, and clean ISO's at least up to 6400 I'd have to take a look, but am betting they won't get there.

[@cowboys5group444]

Nikon just updated the firmware again. The AF works great now in everyday. Why do you say it needs work?

[@3BMEP]

I guess I need to update the firmware - I look forward to being able to update my view - thanks!

[@cowboys5group444]

@@3BMEP Did you update to 2.00 ?

[@3BMEP]

Cowboys 5 Group Yes, and now 2,1. Was better than GH5 for talking head, equal to our Sony a6400

[@lcador9]

Thoughtful cometary of which I well support. Your final thought that if Nikon could get it's auto focus in the same universe as Sony then all could reach for the stars aboard the interstellar-Z with a reasonably priced and effective system.

[@stanspb763]

The Z might well be more accurate than Sony but in Face Tracking the sony locks on further out(where DOF is not an issue whether an eye or nose is the focal plane. But in practice using my friend's a7III, tracking and focus accuracy were not in sync. Shooting side by side, swapping bodies, the Z6 consistently returned more nails focus. The accuracy of the Focus Peaking in the Sony was not as close as the excellent Z6/7 FP function that has made my AIS lenses useful again, like the 50 1.2 AIS that I bought new 6 years ago. Even if the focus was faster with Sony, few people could blame the focus performance of any camera over the years, if an image is bad, it usually has to do with the user more than the camera. No portrait photographer with any experience has problems with focusing before AF. But Sony's only claim to superior cameras is that dubious AF speed. Nothing else in the system is as good as the competition, Certainly not build quality or materials, sealing, ergonomics, longevity, and handling.

[@kennethbradstedlarsen5194]

Very nice video. I've been on the verge of buying a z6 for quite some time, but the lack of a second card slot keeps me from ordering. It seems like a great system with very fine lenses, but I'm the kind of guy that need redundancy. I need to feel safe if I'm shooting for client and especially an event.

[@3BMEP]

I understand.

[@stanspb763]

Are you using two XQD now? If you are using SD, you are risking far more with 2 SD than a XQD.

[@DeadlyZoo]

Hey I met you at the Hillwood Estate Museum in the Eisenstaedt Exhibit, I'm the Security Officer.

[@3BMEP]

Sumthnblu ? Hey, Blu!

[@DeadlyZoo]

@@3BMEP Hey, Hugh!

[@hdrsmit]

i'm sure the new Z 85 lens will be great, but i'll wait and see comparison shots against my "ancient" but super sharp super lightweight 85/1.8G w/ adapter used.. i won't be getting the Z version just for the bells and whistles on the lens casing no matter how cool they are //lol//

[@3BMEP]

hdrsmit completely reasonable approach!

[@BeachriderUSA]

This is a lot of speculation on not-as-yet released stuff. That Nikon deserves your loyalty clearly matters here. This is mostly speculation, though.

[@laylahagge5532]

Buy a 35mm and a 85mm you have everything you need to make trip. Omg i love that

[@villagranvicent]

Canon might not have the "Pro" body that everybody seems to need, but their L lenses are pretty spectacular. Even the small 35mm 1.8 is very good. I have seen many beautiful images coming from the R and the RP too.

[@VMNEO]

mesmerizing...!