Nikon Zf - Low Light & Dual Base ISO (With Canon R5C Comparison)

[@TylerEdwards]

Josh is out there once again doing the tests that no one else is doing. Great video!

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks Tyler!

[@rodfiori1968]

Great info to have, Josh. Recently picked up a Zf. Thanks for doing the recent Nikon tests. You’ve easily become my favorite channel. Love your Camera Talk Thursdays!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You’re welcome. So glad to hear you’ve been enjoying the videos. Thanks for the support!

[@JosephRossPhotography]

Yes, I’m here for it!!

[@JosephRossPhotography]

Wow this is great for a point and shoot!

[@amermeleitor]

Your videos are top notch, great information, simple and very useful. Watching your vídeos have been a great help, I'm deciding to migrate to mirrorless (mostly for photography, but today video is a must) and your videos made me understand a pair of things: - Near every brand have enough image quality today and there isn't big differences - Other things like reliability, AF, lenses, size, difficult to edit video files, price, etc, should be more important than image quality Thanks!

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thank you for the kind words and for watching!

[@georgeparaskevaides6785]

Great video...guess its better than z6ii in high iso aroud 16000-40000 iso?

[@NickDelDuca]

Welp I assumed the ZF 2nd ISO was 4000 like my Z8 and recorded a whole dance show at 4000 ISO. I was able to run NR in post and save it but It's great to know where it actually is. My bad for throwing the camera to the fire the 2nd day I got it without much testing.

[@avx111]

I remember back when the R5C launched some complaints about linear noise patterns at high ISO, do you ever get those?

[@amermeleitor]

He have videos that show banding in the noise with very high ISO. But if you allow noise reduction using other processed output the camera clean the banding at some extent. More important is the point he has made several times: is more important the middle ISO performance, there is not point in using very high ISO even in dark environments. In his comparison with the RED and the Z8 I prefer the Canon even with the banding because it kept the colors better. The Z8 shifted the colors in high ISO

[@Josh_Sattin]

I see that banding show up when you are stretching the dynamic range and pulling up the shadows. It can occur at lower ISOs too. I show it in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYbWmZShltSmacU

[@moneyshift8190]

Great info thank you!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@JorgeLeonardoMartinez998]

Hey Josh I’m shopping for a cine lens for my new BM 6K full frame. Which is better zoom or Prime cine lenses?

[@Josh_Sattin]

That is totally personal preference.

[@mightygame9944]

Despite it is not the right place to comment cause this comment was supposed to be about your black magic 6k full frame and 6k pro low light comparison but i chose to comment in here. Cause me i dont understand this low light concept anymore, you all are coming here stating that low light depends on the sensor size, the bigger the sensor the better the low light. Then some say it is the dynamic range that determines the low light, the better dynamic range the better the low light. But in your dynamic range comparison of both the black magic full frame and pro, the result was equal, but when you now compared the low light of both cameras, the 6k pro was better despite it has a super-35 sensor. So unless yall dont know and the answer is from the tech companies but what in this hell determines THE DAMN LOW LIGHT THEN???

[@Josh_Sattin]

The general understanding out there is that a larger sensor will be better in low light. Well, this depends on the two sensors. There are plenty of S35 sensors that perform better in low light than some full frame sensors. So you can't just say this as a blanket statement, but some people do. That is why it was surprising to a lot of people when the 6K FF had worse low light performance than the 6K G2. If the two sensors were basically the same but with different sizes then the full frame sensor should have lower noise at the same ISO. But rarely do we have the exact same sensor design for two different sized sensors. Even here with the BM cameras, they have different designs. What does good low light performance mean? Well it mostly has to do with the noise (luma and chroma) at higher ISO values. Also how well the camera controls the color and sharpness. Many cameras also apply built in noise reduction which complicates all of this. Here is an older video that I made about crop sensors which explains a lot of stuff, including noise based on the sensor size: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5THpaRpg5ush6s