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[@kajman911]

Yep, it can be stopped via Australian model. Do not allow a singel boat/ship to enter Europe. As long as the European welfare-ATM is open boats will set sail.

[@truthismycause2800]

Illegals are ilegible for welfare. The way you put it seems like illegals have freebies upon arrival in Europe. They don't and probably never will due to being illegals.

[@lenzp4133]

its not europes responsibility to rescue illegal immigrants from overloaded trash boats. i´m tired of this topic. yada yada humanitarian aid etc i know. changed nothing over the last decade. people will take legal routes if they know they wont get in illegally. europe must stop caving in to those pseudo good people, things here work somehow because there are laws. follow them.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Yes, besides, aren't ruzzian and China Africa's best friends nowadays anyways? We could just post signs to Africa's northern shores point out the general direction of ruzzian and China.

[@rositasultana3958]

None of them want shiny ruzzia china 😂 They like degenerate EU or America...why?

[@poopoppy]

I would love it if the E.U would start disincentivize people from trying to cross. No passport, no chance!

[@vobp-kk6kz]

and sending the existing ones back to their countrys

[@johnthompson7105]

All of these so called fishing boats need to be destroyed before any more freeloaders get to europe

[@abmong]

So you expect Afghans to go get passports from the Taliban?

[@T.efpunkt]

The only way to disincentivize people from trying to come to europe is europe stopping to exploit their economies while supporting corrupt dictatorships. We either start to leave them alone or accept the consequences of robbing them.

[@stavrosr9819]

@@abmong Yeah,you should expect that. After all they chose Taliban as their goverment.

[@TheGrace020]

Id rather stop them from COMING IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Iceyfire12]

Let Mother Earth take care of that!

[@annaannan6840]

Id rather we stop supporting warmongers from destabilising and impoverishing their countries and thereby the phenomenon of mass immigration would cease to exist ….

[@T.efpunkt]

All europe needs to do is stop robbing their resources and supporting corrupt dictatorships. And just like that they don't have reasons to flee any longer

[@nothing26375]

Absolutely stop them take actions immediately

[@RollcageHiggins-uf9nm]

No more scroungers or criminals wanted in europe

[@Dianeayr]

The people smugglers need to be held accountable, they are totally responsible not the west.

[@T.efpunkt]

The people who rob their resources, destroy their lifelyhoods and support dictatorships need to be held accountable. The smugglers are not the cause of people fleeing, they are just a symptom.

[@abmong]

You know how to stop smugglers? Get your navy to ferry people across so they don't have to go through smugglers. Truth is you don't want those people to get to safety in your country, smugglers are just a convenient scapegoat.

[@raisonneur682]

The EU has developed a huge network of people smugglers' industry since 2015.

[@cherylparker8025]

​@@raisonneur682 no it hasn't, the people smugglers are Egyptian, Libyan, Albanian, Russian, Turkish mafia and corrupt government

[@abmong]

@@johncbny As many as have legitimate claims for Asylum.

[@davidcarter3284]

I live in a country I wasn’t born into I got a visa wouldn’t of dreamed about smuggling myself in and it wasn’t easy getting a visa ………you take you own chances in life

[@wesleyshaw7563]

500 less coming to England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@dm9078]

Wait? They refused help? I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

[@steventwine8705]

Greece puts all illegals into detention camps and processes them there. Once they claim asylum there they can't move to another countries. Nothing more than illegal country shoppers for the best deal. Its their own fault and this incident just shows the truth of these illegals intentions

[@Iceyfire12]

I wonder what Italys policies are? If you land in Italy you can then stay???

[@steventwine8705]

@Iceyfire12 they get treated better, more prospects and more importantly for the illegals a land border with the rest of Europe. If the Italians wave them on and don't process them then they are free to country shop

[@mina0653]

Ofc they knew they'd be sent right back or arrested if they accented thr help

[@MM-op6ys]

I heard that they refused help because the contract is that they would get paid in Italy, so they had to go to destination. This is not for the people wanting a better life, its about smugglers getting their money.

[@paololuckyluke2854]

The answer is yes, by stopping them altogether.

[@tanyaozify6710]

They choose that route .. They know the consequences... Why put the blame on EU!!

[@yonyon8670]

Exactly ~

[@FollowGodsWord]

One of the best indications on whether or not they'll be good citizens is their cooperation and respect for the laws of the nation they are entering. Illegal entry already demonstrates lack of respect and rebellion against their law.

[@T.efpunkt]

Nope. Them fleeing the countries we ruin is the best indicator of their responsible behaviour.

[@lolomgwtfbbqqqq]

​@@T.efpunktspeak for yourself, I didn't ruin anything

[@T.efpunkt]

@@lolomgwtfbbqqqq so you don't use electronics? Don't drink coffee, don't eat bananas, don't wear clothes? There are roughly 50 slaves working in africa and asia to support your lifestyle, my uneducated friend. That you don't see them doesn't mean you're innocent

[@andrejsurdevics6476]

@@T.efpunkt Do you think no one in Africa is responsible for their citizens lives?

[@T.efpunkt]

@@andrejsurdevics6476 there isn't that much a govt. can do when the entire countries wealth is extracted and the budget is basically zero. And that's assuming the govt. isn't a dictatorship installed by the west.

[@amadeuz8161]

How about making stricter rules so that they stop trying to get in the illegal way. If they know before entering the boat that there is 110% chance no matter what their reason is that they will be sent back home if they go the illegal way then build more legal ways on the other side to organize the chaos(yes it costs money but is there a price tag on a humans life?). Make crossing with a boat a 100% card to be sent back home and people will stop drowning.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

ah yeah? How hasn't anyone thought of that? But wait... they did. And everyone involved in this knows the legal situation exactly, unlike you unfortunately. So for one, immigrants normally burn their passports, if they had one to beginn with, and instantly turn into so called "sans papiers", meaning they can not be repatriated since their origin can not be identified. They just all say they're minors from Afghanistan. Add to that the reluctance of states to comply with repatriation and the legal right to challenge the decision of your asylum application first through administrative process and then several levels of court (municipal, state, federal, then EU human rights court, then international human rights court) that can easily take up to 20 years or more (yes, you read that right, and its all on taxpayers bill), you find yourself in a complete and utter impossibility of repatriating any meaningful numbers of illegals. And that's why you see an increasing number of pushbacks. And there you go. You're welcome.

[@T.efpunkt]

Nope. The only way is to not destroy their countries and economies. We need to end colonialism

[@221b-l3t]

And having had the pleasure of almost suffocating once I have a pretty good idea of what drowing feels like. You disgust me. Go in the bathroom, fill the tub and hold your head under water. Because you lack empathy a practical demonstration seems necessary.

[@T.efpunkt]

@freebeerfordworkers that's maybe partially correct. If the trend continues, china might gain a tiny fraction of the wests influence in africa.

[@marcellogenesi6390]

@@T.efpunkt Nobody is destroying Pakistan ,Bangladesh or Egypt, they are doing a good job without out side help. I don't suppose you think that their population explosion, has any thing to do with their problems; Nah! I thought not . In 1960 Pakistan population was around 51 million to day stands at around 249 million, and we not including the million that have emigrated. In 1960 Africa with an area of about 30 million square km population was around 284 million, to day is 1BILLION 340 MILLION. In 1960 Europe with an area of about 4 and a half million square Km the population was around 600 million, to day stands at 742 million, but that includes more than 50 million immigrants. If we acted like them the population would be 3 BILLION 500 MILLION, there would not an inch of soil left to grow food, and the migration would flow the opposite direction, but co ahead and continue to regurgitate the same lame excuses, that will surely solve the problem.

[@KA__777]

Gosh, they should have stayed in their country...

[@T.efpunkt]

Were europe supports corrupt regimes, steals their resources and ruins their lifes? Not going to happen. The only thing that stops them is ending colonialism.

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktEurope does no such things, lil ruzzky troll. Its Ruzzia who does that by providing rogues, warlords and rebels the weapons they need to destabilize Africa.

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktYour snake leader Putin goes as far as buying european and american weapons to supply to those rogues si he can out the blame on EU/USA.

[@jakm1264]

Why national mourning? Not a single Greek died.

[@zhaw4821]

It's called empathy

[@shaheenakhan9571]

Secure and strict measures should be taken on borders and against agents too

[@clivewalford3148]

Yes Stop them coming !

[@greasyflight6609]

They must have understood the risks...and still they came...a complete disaster. Human traffickers should be jailed for life.

[@makismalisianos5969]

Well, according to testimonies of the survivors, they saw the boat only when they were boarding, and when they asked to stay on land they where held at gunpoint.and I agree, the smugglers must be at least jailed for life both in their countries and where they might end up in. But it's clear that they are not facing the law where they operate, and the best case I'd that the arrival country can arrest their captains or their thugs, but the bosses never board these vessels.

[@annipetratos9401]

They were offered help... Help was refused.... Who refused the help? The people locked in below? The people crammed in on top with their arms raised? The smugglers are probably the ones refusing help!!!

[@xenofonkarykis8417]

The captain of the boat always makes these communications and decisions. I would imagine the captain of a smuggling boat to be a smuggler

[@nvmtt]

yes. the captain would only be paid if they landed in italy so he refused.

[@makismalisianos5969]

He would also be locked up of he accepted. The problem was that if these thugs were not cooperating they would definitely sink the boat but possibly also the coastguard boat too. If only it was less crammed, maybe the costguard or frontex could detain these men and then help the passengers.

[@annipetratos9401]

@@xenofonkarykis8417 latest reports say that my original comment is doubtful. That the boat was in obvious distress long before it went down. So sad all those lives lost. Coastguard probably following orders. But that's no excuse for a lack of conscience. Anyway... will the truth out? Who knows. And if it does, who will know if it's the truth.

[@xenofonkarykis8417]

@@annipetratos9401 obvious distress and declared distress are different things. "Obvious" is unfortunately a matter of interpretation of whoever is in charge of search and rescue. In general in international waters obvious distress is considered a situation where the boat is sinking and can therefore no longer communicate with the authorities to declare emergency. Unfortunately the people in charge of the boat are the smugglers and to intervene without their cooperation in area where you dont have legal juristiction to enforce an intervention is problematic to say the least and the rescue attempt can actually become the cause the of sinking of a boat that for all its problems is not actually sinking at the time.

[@zippymufo9765]

It's not the EU's responsibility

[@michaelbull9428]

Stop them coming in the first place would be a good start

[@T.efpunkt]

Easy. Stop stealing from them, stop supporting dictators, stop exporting weapons

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktEurope isn't stealing anyone nowadays. It's trading lawfully. Europe doesn't support tyrants. Which tyrants do you refer?

[@T.efpunkt]

@@truthismycause2800 it's the same kind of "lawful trade" GB forced on china, causing the opium crisis. There are places on earth that still pay colonial taxes to this day. European companies ruin africas environment for profits that end up in the pockets of very few wealthy people. Then these rich people come back for hunting endagered species like rinos and elephants, lions and cheetas. All while child slaves work on coffee and banana plantations, in sweatshops as well as all kinds of mines for our living standard. We even ship most of our toxic waste there on top of all that. Everything has to come from somewhere, europes wealth didn't just magically appear because we're the good guys or something. If you have enough food to waste it that means someone else isn't getting enough. Same goes for water, energy and basically every other resource. Our luxus is someone elses misery. Because we are the EU and NATO and basically control the UN nobody dares to question the status quo, because otherwise you might have a gadaffi moment.

[@truthismycause2800]

@@T.efpunkt No it's not. It's regulated by international trade law. The WTO is a thing nowadays.

[@T.efpunkt]

@@truthismycause2800 an institution everyone has a say in, not just the G7, right? Man, you're naive. Besides that, legality is not even a metric when you look at how a system performs.

[@BramHarmsen]

This really really has to stop, such a human tragedy. Our rules are definitely broken. There should only be one way to apply for asylum and thats a legal way. As long as that does not change people will keep risking their lives and drown.

[@johnwintergreen3180]

No need for a boat africa is vast and many safe lovely countrys to live in

[@_Twink]

Africa can't fit in Europe.

[@BramHarmsen]

@@donbabilio8298 good question. I have not looked into the situation there but perhaps they either have better rules, less desperate people in nearby countries and or less suitable conditions on the ocean, a combination of the above or something else?

[@raisonneur682]

The EU has developed a huge network of people smugglers' industry since 2015.

[@_Twink]

@@raisonneur682 the smugglers are Egyptian not European.

[@Jamesyahyah]

Darwin proved right once again

[@soreeyez]

What kind of fishing 🎣 vessels have more humans than seafood🐟🐙🦐🦀? 🤔

[@wingberry123]

Imagine paying €4,500 to cross on a flimsy boat with a high chance of it sinking. Something must be done.

[@alaric_]

Increasing patrolling to stop any smuggler ships the moment they get into the international waters.

[@AnonIllumi]

you wana see the dingys crossing the english channel

[@philomenacroghan5437]

Where do they get the money ,families know it's illegal to come by boat ,who encourages them the smugglers ??

[@wingberry123]

@@AnonIllumi Your life doesn't suck because of them, your life sucks because of you.

[@c.r.t.]

Their route was towards ITALY! The Italians knew this, as did other countries in Europe. They were in INTERNATIONAL waters and NOT in GREEK waters, there were many ships nearby. Which of them helped? None! Greek officials went there to help BUT they were not allowed to help!!!!. When the situation got really bad THEN they were allowed to help, but it was too late.

[@alaric_]

Well, if they were on international waters and ectively refused help, there's not that much ships can do. They can't just start boarding ships when refused, that breaks many international maritime laws.. It's different when the ship is inside the national waters, then the coast guard can stop and search ships freely. If the ship captain had agree for the help.....

[@c.r.t.]

​@@alaric_ That's right, that's exactly what happened.

[@kingrichards9295]

I still believe their parent countries are actually responsible, not the countries they trying to go illegally

[@ivanskirchak4935]

Stay home 😉

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Why aren't they going to ruzzia or China?

[@donnabeuth3193]

No freebies

[@truthismycause2800]

Neither care for human rights, yet Africa sees both China and Russia as friends (right! With friends like these...) and berates Europe with all sorts of insults when in reality millions of africans live amongst us and get much more respect for their human rights than in their own african countries. It's called being ungrateful.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Why is usa military going near China ? Stay in usa

[@leavandenbosch9090]

They have to obey the laws, stop helping them, then they will think twice

[@T.efpunkt]

They obey the laws. Europe doesn't.

[@neilfoster814]

​@@T.efpunkthow is trying to illegally enter a country "obeying the law" exactly? The simple fact is that Europe does not want these sub human criminals, and we will do ANYTHING possible to stop them!

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

​@@T.efpunkt No proof

[@makismalisianos5969]

What about where there is no legal way to ensure your survival and basic human dignity, should you stay put and rot or be left to drawn?

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktStop lying, you troll! It's not Europe's responsibility to deal with billions of people fleeing poverty created by their own corrupt leaders!

[@thePronto]

They could address the root cause of the problem. Economic disparity and political instability have been facts for decades and longer. However, 'someone' is organizing and marshalling these migrations and governments are turning a blind eye. And its not just the traffickers in Egypt/wherever: there is someone coordinating this on a multi-national level. If I can connect tbe dots, then the EU can too.

[@secular7396]

The problem is not economic. Many Pakistanis in that boat paid around 50k euro to the traffickers. They could have stayed in Pakistan and still gave very good life with that money. They could easily go the rich Arab countries as Arab countries are very nearer to their home country.

[@ronnie5329]

Third countries need to be established for entire EU, where countries can process after their own policies

[@braxxian]

Correct. Australia has been doing that very successfully for years. If someone ties to sneak into our country illegally they are deported immediately to a third nation for processing.

[@Animadroids]

Can African and Middle east countries stop human trafficing? That is the real question.

[@yonyon8670]

Yeh PM them to stop being corrupt

[@itchyballs3129]

It's a jihad . Conquer Europe with population ..

[@sharkcacher]

I don't think anyone in the EU put all those people on the boat. People made bad choices and died because of it.

[@SOz-uf5yq]

Why on earth risk your life, Why don't you do the right thing, apply and wait in the queue? Seriously sometimes they deserve what they get.

[@jonamudangaza]

We learn this from your forefathers who came to Africa and plundered our wealth to enrich you. We are simply following our long stolen riches. They didn't need Visas and neither should we.

[@terimaakigaand5857]

criminals don't follow rules

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

I had to snap on an Arab 3 hours ago. True story. I can't stand these illegals. I have 0 sympathy for whoever was on that boat. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

[@ronnie5329]

​@@jonamudangazaYou are delusional

[@annipetratos9401]

Their choice is often "die, or maybe die"

[@amakaokwuba2636]

E.U should take over Africa.. this will make Africa better.. Therefore all this would end. I am Okwuba Emmanuel To and this is the only solution

[@jimjim8645]

Actually very surprised to read such a comment from an african(?) Africans rebelled many times to kick ''europeans'' off their continent and be free...

[@janeck.8695]

Did you have specific African countries in mind, or do you mean the entire continent? Just why the he** should the EU do that? When I travel, I can't just climb in a boat and go, I have to have a passport, in some cases visa. Is Africa exempt from entering countries legally?

[@kivloli8385]

sell out

[@longatsos]

No let them take your country not mine

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

Everybody wants to live in Europe and America so them two should just take everything over. Expand the borders right? Leftists dont care about soveriegnty or borders anyways.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

It's tragic, but not sure why authorities would want to stop them drowning ??? That would encourage more of them. Sorry to hear of this tragedy, but fear of drowning is a disincentive to illegal economic immigration. Arrive illegally at their own peril. It simply shouldn't be happening at all.

[@murk2002]

I don’t understand how the EU can be responsible for any of this. The bots should sink before sailing. I’m not flying my flag half mast

[@diazvirdani1059]

*Greece🇬🇷 have maritime disputes with Turkiye.* make maritime border agreement & peace!

[@mustafaunal1834]

Illegal immigration has nothing to do with the Turkish-Greek territorial waters debate. It has nothing to do with this case. The point is that there are too many failed states in the world.

[@rboddington]

Arrested? They should be given medals and a parade.

[@Imrankhan278]

300 Pakistani died to flew from country because of regime change 300 people killed murdered

[@kiaaurora]

Yes, Europe can stop them from drowning. Just don’t let these leave the shores of Africa

[@OGGOAT23]

Just don't go it's that simple..

[@florin-titusniculescu5871]

all hail Angela , the Decision Maker , who enlarged the definition of Surya all across from Sri Lanka to Congo .

[@survivetheendoftheworlddai4343]

No passport and visa., No entering in EU,stay out and live where u are born.

[@Domino13334]

That is unfair. People are born into dirt poor countries. Politicians fail them. Industry bosses there offer them bread crumb salaries, only care for their own pockets. Police and courts are corrupt. Cartels and clans rule the streets. Lack of education. It‘s horrible.

[@lolololgii754]

you’re the type of person who has no sense of emphaty

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@Domino13334And why is it the EU responsability to solve the problems of people from other countries? Why not China or Russia?

[@Tommy-zs6ro]

Why is europe responisble for saving people for drowning ? 😂

[@saranndailyroutinelife3742]

Greece showed irresponsibilties , Greece coast guards closed off the engine of the boat , then they shake the boat , and caused tragedy

[@olbiomoiros]

There’s literally no proof of what you’re saying lol

[@petronelastelawhite-anca7964]

Very sad & traumatic

[@niccoarcadia4179]

Italia dodged a bullet that time!

[@mariosathens1]

in such a situation you can do nothing IF the passengers of the boat doesn't agree to,. It didn't just sink, it capsized and dragged everyone inside to the bottom of the sea. The passengers were fighting inside because some people wanted to be rescued and others didn't. Such a fight to overcrowded boat is certain death since the boat can easily capsizes leaving no time to the people to get out,. Only the people who were on the upper deck managed to fall into the sea and be rescued.

[@annarudkowska9453]

Why were women and children locked under the deck? It’s just sad, so many lives unnecessarily lost. 😢

[@neilfoster814]

There weren't any 'women or children ' on board, that is a lie to try and get more sympathy from Europe.

[@nvmtt]

if you ever travelled on an open deck boat in summer you would know. the heat is unbearable.

[@dreamystone]

It wouldn't have mattered either way. You saw how packed the deck was. The moment the ship went down, it caused a vacuum and most of them drowned anyway. The hundred-odd people that survived must have jumped off board and swum a fair distance away in time.

[@vladnickul]

That guy got an asylum in Germany for what exactly? Not safe for him but safe for his wife? Can we compare the numbers of asylum seekers per country? It is obvious that this guys don't seek "safe places" but much better paid jobs. Wanting to have a better life, or at least a better paid job is a normal thing, but we must separate people that NEED HELP from people that lie to fill their pockets. Is it racist to want to protect my job, by friends job, my neighbors quality of life, our values, or even our property values?

[@rrickarr]

Yet there is not sparing of resources to find 5 people who took a fatal trip to the titanic!

[@irfanyousafirfanyousaf9254]

Greek coast guard responsible for this

[@user-di8hm2jl2u]

The human traffickers need to be caught and imprisoned for life.

[@zigniingiz]

It was a a horrible thing to happen but we all know it was the traffickers who are st blame

[@T.efpunkt]

It's europe that ruined their countries and breaks asylum laws. The smugglers are a symptom, not the cause

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktEurope didn't ruin their countries. It's their corrupt leaders ruining their own countries turning them into failed states that shouldn't even exist as nations.

[@GloriaL28]

Be hard stop them, they wont drown then

[@joedavidson6556]

Why would anybody want to stop it????

[@elmowill6522]

Tom Hanks trying to bring more kids in for himself!! 🤢🤮

[@calvin8677]

Why don't they migrate legally?..seems wrong for them to force themselves onto another country. &countries that are culturally completely different

[@yonyon8670]

It was there choice as they took this risk on there own they knew what can happen. You cant blame EU or anyone but there own for going this route.

[@irfanyousafirfanyousaf9254]

Greek cost gard responsible for this tregedy

[@t-alimichael3363]

Take a pause and think if you were in this situation, get on the boat or no?. Better, are you currently living in the country, place you were born into. Desperate times leads to irrational decisions. RIP

[@jakm1264]

How to stop boats from drowning? Not over crowding them

[@nigelmason550]

Sorrow and shame???

[@danknado97]

Greek Coat guard are heroes if you want to help open your home door

[@AntonKa-yn4mb]

From Libya with love).

[@veramae4098]

Why did they prefer Italy to Greece?

[@makismalisianos5969]

Access to the rest of EU, better chances off getting asylum and a good job, some of them have family members there, also there is a rumor going around for pushbacks but I cannot confirm or deny (soupreme leader mitsot*kis is always watching). Also if you manage to get a job in Italy's fields there is a chance you end up getting paid more than university graduates in Greece. Ps. Just know your comment gives free opportunities for the darkest jokes but rn I can't bring my self to do one.

[@neilfoster814]

At least the fish and crabs had a good feed! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@chrysistef4514]

I hear Syria is safe now, why don’t stay there?

[@alantran1914]

Well, the problem with many Western countries is that : "You damn if do and you damn if you don't!" And this is not only immigration but pretty much everything......

[@troyingram716]

The weight & balance of the boat is all wrong. All the people on the deck raised the center of gravity to high and the boat flipped over.

[@SkyGlitchGalaxy]

500 people... OMFG

[@michaelbull9428]

Don't worry, there's plenty more where they come from

[@gabrielfair724]

Nobody is trying to fix the root problems we have in this world. Everyone is trying to make enough money so that the problems don't apply to them anymore

[@_Twink]

If they all made enough money wouldn't problems go away?

[@luisa.acevedo3326]

Open the borders✊️ Of course I'm being sarcastic.

[@T.efpunkt]

If you open the borfers for the resources you steal from their countries, you also have to open it for the people.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

​@@T.efpunkt Nope

[@MashinLA_03]

Soo So tell me who to be blamed ?

[@peace-now]

This is a terrible maritime disaster. It is a horrible tragedy for the poor family members looking for loved ones. The inquiry must focus on all aspects of the tragedy, especially the response from the EU.

[@MarlonMarkJames]

The journalist Carassava 2:37 - 7:32 "Um" count: 44 ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** **** I'm always pretty disappointed when journalists ramble on stuttering and umming and ahhing. It's almost like it's REQUIRED in their job description. But I think it's embarrassing. It doesn't take much training to eliminate this from your speech. (Each row of stars is actually five stars typed in, but for whatever KZbin glitch reason each row looks like 3 stars. Except for the last row which is four stars and only looks like two 🤷🏾‍♂️)

[@_Twink]

Short answer: No. They can't end all crime.

[@empresszolakhadijah9819]

This is murder and who is really doing this?

[@truthismycause2800]

Human traffickers, ofc. Not Europe for sure.

[@Domino13334]

When 15 people die in an US terror attack, EU leaders are always very vocal about it and it‘s breaking news/big news for days here. Now probably 650 lives were taken by this tragic accident and EU leaders are almost radio silent and news coverage also is not so much.

[@truthismycause2800]

Europeans politicians have responsabilities towards their citizens therefore we demand they try to stop those barbaric attacks and grief our own when they happen. European politicians have ZERO responsabilities towards citizens from countries outside Europe. Our politicians serve us europeans, not you! You can't demand anything from them! Who dafaq are you to say what our politicians should or shouldn't do? You get served by YOUR politicians, not ours.

[@jb7052]

EU border policies are costing a fortune in finance and lives

[@WetflowerVariant]

EU policy is not as bad compared to other western countries like Canada and US which also have similar policies.

[@jb7052]

@@WetflowerVariant you must be kidding! You can’t get into America without a trade or family living there. They certainly don’t have completely open borders like the EU. Once across the EU border there is nothing to stop immigrants moving from one end of the EU to the other!!

[@alaric_]

No border policies would bankrupt EU in a decade. Imagine tenfold the amount of unemployed, governments having no money for any social benefits for anyone and it would be even worse when people would turn into crime to support their families. Yeah, sure that's the "better" option.

[@mobilusinmobili8321]

​@@WetflowerVariant How tf is it bad?

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@jb7052The EU doesn't have "open borders", smartpants. Where dafaq does that conspiracy theory comes from? The EU cannot simply build a wall in the Mediterranean, you geography impaired nitwit. It's a sea!

[@seyedmatloobhussainshah]

EU must welcome to the world is peoples chose to come and love EU

[@annaannan6840]

Yes, Eu can stop this. First 2 steps is to decouple from US and prevent European oligarchs from exercising their covert influence over domestic politics. Most importantly - NEVER again support efforts to destabilise (regime change) in non western countries and instead “help” them to rebuild and thrive. Then people wouldn’t have the need or incentive to leave their countries and illegal immigration would cease to exist……

[@anthonyspeakman3073]

Yes they call them torpedo's

[@avagrego3195]

Lybian boat sinks in international waters.

[@mushtiar_Engineer]

Said realy my country pakistan

[@jawadkhan3778]

😢

[@bfelten1]

Of course EU countries, and indeed all other countries, can fix this! All it takes is to upgrade the embassies to actually become a true part of their countries. A part where all the visa and asylum matters can be handled directly, and the proper transport can be arranged. Don't forget, that those people now being killed by human traffickers, have paid a lot (more often than not much more than $10k). Even ten of those together can easily pay for a government or chartered plane to pick them up, and safely transport them to their destination. I think I can call this the US way, at least that's how it seemed to have worked when I was young. With the majority of the employees at the embassy being recruited from native speakers, that can properly inform the applicants and find all the needed information, rather than outdated politicians from home, it'll be far easier to handle everything. DUH! It'll cost far less, than now, when government agencies at home are trying to sort things out, often having to use translators, while the immigrants have to wait, often for years, for a decision to be made if they can stay or have to go.

[@AnonIllumi]

easy if you have accces to an embasy but afgans for example do not after the taliban retook power as they are not recognised internationally and neither is there passports.

[@melindacadarette3447]

They often don't pay upfront. They only pay a portion upfront and then pay the traffickers the rest once they find work. They often bribe local officials to look the other way too.

[@makismalisianos5969]

Maybe strengthen humanitarian aid and peacemaking effort while they are at it, so the ones left behind are a lilbit better off too, now can we persuade our "democratic" representatives across a whole continent to do it?

[@mavludaubaeva744]

Summer time, people left the country for another country unlikely trip. It's cost lots money to them crossing sea. Now even life's. But it's not mean illegal megrant can go any countries.

[@T.efpunkt]

No human is illegal. Europe violates asylum law

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktNo, these illegals violate international law by invading Europe without proper asylum status or visa to enter the EU space.

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@T.efpunktTry your woke bs "no human is illegal" in Russia, China or North Korea😂😂😂

[@T.efpunkt]

@@truthismycause2800 living up to your name i see. Asylum is an agreed upon basic human right, no ammount of "culture war" sound bites or whataboutism is going to change that fact.

[@MuhammadImransandhu-kj7mz]

coast guard rescue teams were busy making videos click photos people were drowning in front of them they were enjoying۔shame for them shame for Greece Government 😢

[@AlHindMaskeen]

Shame for u illiterate madrassa chaaps whose own country has become gutter 😂😂

[@CastleLager-lf5eu]

Torpedo the Boats!!!

[@lotusflover4703]

Why is it up to the EU? Where is people's responsibility for their own lives and actions. Europe is not the social agency of the Middle East and Africa

[@bashamuwanga]

why should you risk ur life like that becoz of going to europ never with me

[@Temur.Lashkarava75]

Политическая жизнь в I-II вв. претерпела значительные изменения. Для сохранения основных позиций в Эгриси римляне предпочли использовать новые политические силы - вождей отдельных племен, стремившихся к самостоятельности. Рим всячески поддерживал вождей военных демократий, способных своими силами противостоять царям Колхиды. Это, в первую очередь, относится к вождям приморских племен, поскольку главнейшие опорные пункты римлян лежали им Черноморском побережье.

[@richardstonyisland9719]

650 is wAa!yy toooo much..Damm. rest in peace to the people

[@bellahmarape8056]

😢What a tragedy my heart goes out to their families and friends I send my warm condolences to the families who lost their loved ones, OMG!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@vickypuscas2561]

I think they should build a bridge across the Mediterranian sea so that people could walk over.

[@jonas7510]

ok , those indian accents in vids like this are just getting ridiculous . i have nothing against indians , but this is distracting from the content . i bet greece right now has plenty of unemployed people who know english . why not let them translate greek speeches ?

[@mina0653]

But the Indian reporter/interpreter also speaks English fluently? Who cares if they have an accent or not

[@34582wt]

Yes maybe returning the gold, oil, minerals and precious stones. That would something to begin with.

[@kreb7]

Greecks also would like to get returned their artefacts and compensation but we don't hold our breath

[@rapidrat]

Is there an investigation on how Greek coast guard handled the situation? Greek left is protesting right now!

[@basherahmed6002]

اللہ اکبر

[@itchyballs3129]

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