Nintendo Has Officially Lost It...

[@BloodyBook]

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[@Glitchiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

You know, with everything that you listed, it really sounds like Nintendo is just *jealous* of pocket pair(which is why they're being targeted the most) since I know about another pokemon inspired game that Nintendo brought to the switch

[@xetear]

Speaking as a game developer. The patenting of in game systems should not be allowed. It protects no one, it only serves to hurt the future of games.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

Future of American games, not my problem

[@shutupimstilltalking]

For real. When are they gonna patent walking in a game

[@fakiirification]

agreed. I almost think developers should set up shell corporations in pakistan or china and VPN to do any uploads, etc. so they can violate patent and copyright with impunity. the issue is distribution services would just take them down. but i feel like it opens up a market for decentralized marketing services, and provides another use case for cryptocurrency.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@fakiirification hell no stay away from us, we don't give you permission to even use our ips

[@lukeGGlee]

@@MGrey-qb5xznintendo is japan

[@oscarcordero7811]

So one of the excuses for them sueing is that you can't ride flying creatures? Did they forget that alot of games have that mechanism? Ark, Dragons Dogma, Skyrim, etc... Nintendo is just becoming a Bully at this point.

[@ultracross9405]

Yeah. Why the hell else would nintendo wait to take a game down for this mechanic and more. I have a feeling that it wouldn't be a good look for Nintendo once we know all the patents Nintendo is alleging Pocketpair is infringing on since many games could be using those features and have unknowingly infringed those patents.

[@MorfsPrower]

Au contraire. Nintendo have always been bullies, they just never had enough attention on themselves for it to have mattered, and the Japanese are severe pushovers for the status quo so they aren't going to do a thing about it.

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

And the catching of monsters and making them fite for you acording to a other video

[@tachi1034]

A cry Bully is what nintendo is becoming with the use of patents and if the first legal team doesn't win, then its sudoku, and then the next legal team to take attempt with legal action. (and probably sudoku if they failed like last team going after papa gabe newel)

[@Cherry-pu4mx]

Thts because thts not what is being patented and it's a specific approach nintendo took to achieve the mechanic that they believe is unique to them and couldn't have been replicated by a professional in the same industry.

[@Boretooth]

Just a reminder. It's not that this COULD massively stifle creativity across the gaming industry. It already has.

[@Kyugorn]

You got a point. Bandai namco made games overall worse by patenting minigames during load times.

[@demusdemore9588]

Best example is the Nemesis System in the LOTR Games

[@demusdemore9588]

Best example is the Nemesis System in the LOTR Games

[@okoj1301]

@@demusdemore9588THIS GUY GETS IT! Waiting almost a decade for this wonder woman game to have the nemesis system. The mechanic could have evolved so much by now but instead innovation has been stifled.

[@FuryousD]

Exactly, but if Nintendo wins this it will only make things worse

[@pon2oon]

My point is, Pocket Pair had no way of even knowing that Nintendo was going to patent this, and Nintendo launches this sneak-attack nearly ten months after the games release (let alone the game was announced all the way back in 2021). If Nintendo wins, it's only because the Japanese court system has a bias towards larger businesses, and Nintendo is one of the largest companies in Japan.

[@WhichWazzockWantedEmailHandles]

Worse, Crafttopia, PocketPair's previous game had the same capture mechanics too.

[@1992holycrap]

Nintendo will 100% try to bribe the judge to ensure their preferred outcome.

[@johndoe-dj3iy]

@@1992holycrapand probably resort to blackmail and threats if the bribe fails

[@JuneTheFay]

Nintendo doesn't even have to win. They can just bleed PocketPair dry and force them to shut down before any verdict can be reached. That kind of abuse of the justice system is sadly very common pretty much everywhere.

[@pon2oon]

@@1992holycrap They're out of control!

[@dsvp4825]

Yet astrobot copied every mechanic mario games have ever come up with . Ofc they wont do anything to sony . They just want to protect their monopolies Boycott nintendo

[@1992holycrap]

Plus, Sony's too big for Nintendo to bully & Nintendo knows it.

[@19TheFallen]

@@1992holycrap And, yet, Sony's got Pocket Pair's back in this lawsuit, so, they're already, in a way, bullying Sony......

[@kvj1989]

Nope not gonna boycot anything, stop your bitching

[@jonthedddking6527]

Astrobot has mechanic's that came before Mario games but was more well known in the Mario games

[@PyrrhulaErytrocephala]

And Mario 64 copied Croc.

[@couldnotic]

OK, Nintendo patenting something like riding a flying mount is absolute BS. If that's the case, then Activision Blizzard should sue Nintendo for patent over mounts cause World of Warcraft is known for having riding mounts, including flying.

[@bloody4558]

Drakengard already had Dragon mounting, and the game is older than WoW

[@tristenj1992]

And Final Fantasy XIV.

[@charlesdeliberis239]

Mounts are in every MMO

[@gamekiller4488]

Dont for get conan exile mounts too

[@riktorheverez1068]

@@bloody4558 i was about to mention these things but someone has beaten me to it

[@anonymousman34]

this will destroy the gaming industry if they win it will create a domino effect and now you can only get games from triple a studios

[@stephen6992]

I know a couple of companies that are gonna pull this shit, it's just sad

[@danmarlcadiz1575]

someone already did start, remember the nemesis system?

[@solitaregames]

Yes, if Nintendo wins; whose to say other companies will not imitate them? This will open a pandora's box.

[@stephen6992]

@@solitaregames oh it will, meaning creativity will be dead for sure

[@quincyking010]

i mean if you want to actually look at it this could literally lead to nintendo getting sued by thousands of games for patent infringement on alot of their games. hell it could kill nintendo if they win and with sony backing palworld now this is almost gaurenteed to happen if nintendo wins. though idk if they will win. idk about japan law or really most laws in general. but i do know that you have to have proof of ownership of ideas to patent them meaning that for things like inventions or game mechanics there cant be a previous one that functions the same and nintendo may be losing patents from this law suit because many of their ideas are actually coppied even if they managed to patent it first

[@edtazrael]

Boycott Nintendo. This company doesn't deserve your money.

[@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE]

How?

[@dragonmanfirebane5078]

@@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE buy second hand/yo ho ho

[@OtrTrash]

@@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE Yar har har, me matey.

[@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation]

Yes, they do. They’re in the right.

[@dragonmanfirebane5078]

@@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation no, they are trying to stomp the competition. there is no way in hell they are in the right

[@VariusMayhem]

It is ironic, isn't it? The one company which once saved gaming when all was going down is now on the other side of things and helps making gaming fall down further.

[@mobi2289]

Nintendo needs to lose, and it needs to be a completely humiliating moment. Not only should it be immediately thrown out, but then they should be punished for making not only such a frivolous lawsuit, but also severely fined for trying to make such broad patents for the purpose of abusing them.

[@solitaregames]

fat chance, this is a Japanese court and Japanese law. Laws that favors big companies even if they are wrong. Because money.

[@jonathanj.3695]

​​​​Not if Playstation comes in and rubs their biggest regret in their face. Playstation IS their biggest and most threatening competition. Let me remind you that the Playstation 1 outsold the Nintendo 64 back in the day and Nintendo regrets ever rejecting Playstation's offer to design a CD playing console for them. To add insult to injury, the Playstation 2 is the best selling console of all time and Nintendo is still trying to play catch up with that. So you tell me who has more money: Nintendo or Playstation? (The answer is Playstation. Sony owns more than just a game console).

[@groudongamer3178]

​@@jonathanj.3695 Nintendo 😂

[@rps215]

I hope those other big companies like WB (King Kong) and Bandai (Digimon) start looking at them in a certain way now

[@AlmightyKevo]

⁠@@groudongamer3178 brother you could’ve just used google, this info is free.

[@travismarshall4914]

They should straight up say they took inspiration from ark.. Ark has cryopods, creature storage, flying on creatures, and creatures collecting resources for you

[@JDReC100]

pocket pair said they took inspiration from rimworld. and if you look at that game, it fits.

[@JuneTheFay]

The only reason I even thought of pokemon at all when looking at Palworld is because it's so huge. It makes me think way more of Ark. And yes, the designs get very similar, I will not argue that. But let's not pretend like Nintendo hasn't done shit like that in the past. They're hypocrites no matter how you look at it.

[@nkbd1048]

then ark comes after them and now they got 2 lawsuits

[@Tobias-u9u]

@@nkbd1048why should wildcard or snailgames sue palworld? I never heard wildcard or snailgames sued anyone

[@WatcherCCG]

@@nkbd1048 Wildcard is currently not anywhere close to being in a financial position to attack anyone in court.

[@Filmore1991]

I'm beginning to lose respect for Nintendo. They are being too greedy for all the money and only them to be focused with the attention of created content.

[@MorfsPrower]

Beginning? Man I never had faith in Nintendo. They're a bunch of litigious gangsters and they used their influence to snuff out Sega in the 90s. It wasn't Sega alone that did that to themselves, Nintendo strong armed stores and developers to pick a side, and they went with the more cost effective weaker hardware. Nintendo has since been harassing and robbing fans blind that dare to show their love for their franchises. There's many many more problems with them which have put them permanently on my boycott list.

[@Nephalem2002]

I lost respect for them when Pokemon Home was announced

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

It's a problem you have any respect for them

[@RavenWoodsDE]

They should've gone down quietly. But, alas, Pokemon saved their butts.

[@cherubin7th]

What angers me, Microsoft does this all the time in all industries, but this is fine.

[@Fireboltdark]

So let me get this clear...nintendo has gone on a warpath against anything nintendo expressed by anyone else in any capacity! So we cant even post anything at all about nintendo? On youtube? This freedom of speech or what!

[@outlawstar2090]

Correct, they even cut off tournaments and even took out story mode in smash bros because they hate the fan base and Competitive player's. They hate anything that doesn't fit to their own agenda. People say it's a kids and family game system but that too is BS. They just want to be on top when money is involved and not about the fans nor player's

[@tobyzilla]

Don't forget they took down another switch emulator reujinx

[@outlawstar2090]

@tobyzilla yeah they hate anything that looks, sounds or mock anything related to Nintendo but other companies sure they might did some here and there but they didn't go after everyone unlike Nintendo. It's stupid

[@NitwitsWorld]

@@outlawstar2090 Nintendo did not remove the story mode; it was Sakurai who decided to do so because the cutscenes, including Sonic's reveal in Brawl, were leaked on KZbin. Please refrain from spreading falsehoods that Nintendo despises Brawl's story.

[@Victor-056]

@@NitwitsWorld Stop stanning for Nintendo. It was _Nintendo_ who did that, as they own the IP. Keep in mind that Sakurai flat out stated that the whole reason he reworked Smash Ultimate was because Nintendo threatened to release _their_ version if he did not rework it... And Sakurai flat out said "It was so terrible that it would have tarnished the Legacy of Smash forever." He stated that the original version didn't have the "Dharkon ending", or the "Release of the spirits ending"... And the "Light ending" was completely different. So to be frank, I wouldn't trust a company that has a habit of flipflopping on their statements and words as and when it suits them.

[@SimpleLifeUwU]

Pokémon Unite uses the game mechanic of MOBA, which is definitely not invented by them. I wish they got their ass sued off.

[@dreymak4071]

Yep, they're creating a dangerous precedent, one that will likely bite them in the ass, since Nintendo isn't innocent of this either.

[@elgecko5872]

It’s shutting down ain’t it

[@leedlebob2667]

Unite is developed by temi and is alsopartnered with tencent. You know the company that owns all the mobas.

[@MegaMegajennifer]

@@elgecko5872 is that why i havent been able to play that game lately? first it becomes incompatible with my pc. then it cant be played in my region!

[@elusixXrelix]

​@@elgecko5872 No not yet but some servers do

[@Debozle]

I really hope pocket pair wins. I remember their was even a past tweet or something months back where pocket pair was telling people its ok to take breaks from the game, please support other indie developers and play their games too. Why aren't we allowed to have fun things? I love the company pocket pair and the passion they have for the audience and other developers. Sad to see that this is even a thing to begin with.

[@johnhanzelyjr]

Because first party AAA Publishers, Like Nintendo, does not want ANY competition for their first-party IPs.

[@Epiphany_nz]

I don't use Nintendo so to hell with them. I started getting into gaming with PS2 in the past. But Im an Xbox fan at present. And what I'm ultimately waiting for is a good portable console when I travel like my Amazon Firestick that should also hook a memory bank that holds the games I'm currently playing. Streaming/cloud as it is just not good enough for any big game.

[@teamofone1219]

Very slim chance.

[@SuperFlashDriver]

I mean, on the other hand, the CEO of pocketpair was kind of a stupidhead treating their employees like garbage. And wanted to copy Pokemon just because it was popular. And while I may have questionable issues with the CEO of Pocketpair himself, I do agree that people should play other indie games...but I do think they have to draw the line between what would be acceptable and what wouldn't be (I'm sure ripoffs wouldn't be nice, but Pocketpair are the mavericks fighting against the goliaths of the media/tech industry so, I'll have to wait and see how this turns out and such).

[@thenobody1546]

Hope they do too.i don't play this game sense it not what I'm into but indie games are becoming more enjoyable then AAA games. Palworld should have known this would happen though. Pretty sure many people were saying nintendo not going like this before game even release. All you can do is wait and support them win or lose.

[@dissidius13]

Ironic that Pokemon Stadium have better 3D animation than these newer Pokemon games. Palworld is a real threat to them because the bar has been low for years. Pathetic of them, really. 😅

[@cy4n_knight_q8]

Nintendo knows their brainwashed fans will always buy garbage and give it high rating so why bother put actual effort?

[@animezilla4486]

Do you think this lawsuit is going to put Nintendo in a negative light ?

[@souldragon9130]

Yeah ​@@animezilla4486

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

It has already, look around, both Nintendo fans (exception being japanese fans and some hardcore fanboys) and Indie fans are against them now.

[@hosswik]

@Animezilla4486 Yes and no. I think in the Americas it will cause a massive reputation drop like when Activision/Blizzard’s terrible work environments got exposed (aka a temporary drop in sales for a few months and a bad reputation for years.) Korea and China are already using this as an excuse to poke fun of Japan (as a whole not just Nintendo) in their local medias. The people in Japan though I doubt the negative feedback and potential drop in sales will even be 0.05% of their sales. So yes to a negative light… but probably nowhere near enough for Nintendo to care, since their primary market is in Japan, and are mostly just trying to extort settlement money out of PocketPair.

[@cyan_wings5420]

Welcome, to a company, that actively suffocates its fanbase.

[@blackmark2899]

Nintendo is one of the few companies I know of that actively hates their own fanbase. And that fanbase is perfectly cool with it.

[@wastelandlegocheem]

​@@blackmark2899no, they're snapping.

[@zeehero7280]

At least SEGA embraces its fanbase. as flawed as they are.

[@Alexander12276]

Nintendo and Disney... they started out humble and innocent and then they went to brutal and cruel... oh how the mighty fall. It's disgusting

[@Bos_Meong]

And fans will still keep buy and defend it despite everything. How about Backlash? Nah that won't ever happen. Switch 2 is coming and they will continue to make even more money.

[@Xibyth]

Palworld can countersue Nintendo for the failure to provide opportunity for remedy. Their goal is malicious destruction, not commercial justice. That is why they will lose this one.

[@zeehero7280]

I am not worried and Palworld is going nowhere. Nintendo is destroying itself and I'm eating popcorn as I watch.

[@dragerien2]

The sinister part? They filed that patent for capture mechanics involving a joystick and button press *after* Palworld came out. Which, if this was an American court, would easily be dismissed.

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

honestly just trying to go in an american court for a broad patent claim or any kind of game mechanic claim would be thrown out fast as fuck. i can see our courts warring it out over something like "flying on a mounted POKEMON, but a broad term such as creature/bird/dragon/butterfly wouldnt get you anywhere as you simply cant own those things for yourself or as an entity.

[@TheSongDragon]

this is why they did not DARE bring it to court in america. Honestly IF pocketpair loses, i hope the company moves to america fully, throws the middle finger at nintendo and simply continues to make the game as an american only game. Suck on that nintendo.

[@forhundredsofyearsilaydorm9301]

We're at that tragic point where, despite the fact that I must acknowledge the outstanding quality of many Nintendo games, I also must acknowledge that Nintendo needs to wither away and allow their patents to dissolve in order to allow the gaming industry to once again prosper. They represent a huge platform for many third-party games, but they don't even deserve to be a platform for themselves anymore.

[@leedlebob2667]

You do realize that you can say the same to pretty much every large game corporation right? Capcom, Sony, Microsoft, Sega, Konami, Ubisoft, the list goes on and on. If Nintendo vanishes, nothing would actually change.

[@iamthemouse4483]

They're the Disney of gaming

[@MegaMegajennifer]

@@leedlebob2667 i saw a thumbnail for a video that said that sega actually likes fan games

[@MegaMegajennifer]

@@iamthemouse4483 um, hello, kingdom hearts?

[@Blahblah-oo7lk]

@@MegaMegajennifer Sort of, it is mostly because they HAVE to and are generally a bit less strict with their IP. One of the major reasons is that SEGA needs the fans goodwill, while Nintendo is extremely protective of their IP to a fault but because even in their lowest times Nintendo is still a successful cash positive company. Additionally company culture is different too, Nintendo sees such people as "rule-breakers" who will not follow the corporate ideology or toe the line, while SEGA is a bit more loose with it, but it should be noted that those who have worked for Nintendo in Japan sign praises that Nintendo take cares of their employees, pays well, good benefits and have reasonable work hours (for Japan) , while SEGA less so.

[@ASingh-ot5ci]

Ive never hated a company so bad and im starting to hate the people still supporting them.

[@vortex7733]

You should. There starting to be part of the problem.

[@1roxyfan491]

you shouldn't hate people

[@MICHAEL_REIS]

So you guys like dumb ppl?

[@KlausiboyZ]

I dunno, Disney still outranks Nintendo for me on that front

[@kingfinallycome8763]

From what i can see from the community, players from Taiwan are generally supportive on Nintendo's side. They keep emphasizing "Palword is fun, but it doesn't mean it should steal the mechanic and design from Pokemon". They also said that Palworld dev is playing the victim right here, so they'll keep supporting Nintendo and Gamefreak to the end of the world. Imo, they are a disgrace to the gamer community. They are very big part of the reason why Nintendo and Gamefreak is wasting time on taking down the others instead of trying to make a decent pokemon game. Because of the support of those retarded fans, the Dev will never have to worry about the sales of their crappy game. (I'm not from China btw :)

[@ironreaver1543]

They patented this AFTER pocket pair released palworld by the way.

[@LisaSummers1988]

i hope the fact matters.

[@KaJunQu33n21]

It does due to the fact the Nintendo waited to sue after they started the patent

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

Ye and that so f up to me pow world made it and then Nintendo copy it and patented it and then want to back date it and ask vor damages think hou f up that is a game developer made a game had it runing for a year or 2 and the you clame al the mechanics in the game back date it and clame damages there only 1 way to stop that patent evry bit of the game you made so a patent office is loving this end result only triple a game developers can aford to stay in busines😢

[@JikuAraiguma]

The patents in question are divisional patents. They are made from a parent patent that was created around the time of PLA and are enforceable from the date of the parent patent. This is patent trolling, an entirely legal and entirely scummy action.

[@Miguel-yh2mz]

Whoever get the patent first, gets to decides the rules, simple.

[@StrikerZero6]

I don't think nintendo can legally sue palworld under any of the reasons they're giving, but I blame all the pissboys who whined and complained to "Daddy Nintendo" about palworld demanding it get shut down just because it's better than pokemon scarlet/violet (I'm saying this all as a huge pokemon fan and nintendo fan...)

[@SuperFlashDriver]

Oh believe me, I have a feeling those people are the reason why Nintendo's doing this lawsuit. The Pokemon fans complaining about Palworld, in my opinion, is why I have no respect for them in my honest opinion. Even Steam told Nintendo about Dolphin and they got blocked from being sold on Steam last year.

[@AzureMoebius22]

As someone who's been loyal to Nintendo for much of my life (partially because Sony and Microsoft's consoles are far more expensive than Nintendo's), I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that Gamefreak pushed them to go through with this. Didn't Miyamoto say in a recent post that he wanted Nintendo to stay out of the whole companies competing with each other nonsense?

[@FuryousD]

I 100% agree and scarlet and violet are now my favourite games in the series other than legends access, palworld is still better though simply because it does more and isn't just a simple creature catcher and battler.

[@FuryousD]

​@AzureMoebius22 gamefreak wouldn't do that, it would be their parent company The Pokemon Company doing all this bullshit or just a intended themselves who are known for disliking anything remotely similar to their first party titles as explained in the video.

[@Kakachi07]

@@FuryousD Gamefreak Is the Pokemon Company. There is no parent company, The Pokemon company is a combined collection of Gamefreak, Nintendo and Creatures Inc. At the end of the day Gamefreak and nintendo are quite literally the Pokemon company. And Gamefreak would 100% do that because they're nothing but a bunch of talentless hacks holding for life on their multibillion dollar fluke of a game franchise.

[@ZiaGameDev]

Palworld is honestly closer in game design to ark survival evolved than it is to pokemon.

[@D3adCl0wn]

Thing is you can play Palworld that focuses on the "pokemon gameplay". I did an only Pals playthrough and it's Pokemon as it can get.

[@ZiaGameDev]

@@D3adCl0wn alright, and in ark I can do a taming only run; you can put tamed creatures in balls called cryopods and throw them out to fight. Is ark pokemon? :O It's like yes obviously the catch and fight thing is very pokemon but that's not exactly unique to pokemon either. The only thing I could've seen Nintendo going after is palworlds blatantly ripped character designs but that's not what the lawsuit is targeting. Edit: just also adding on. That's clearly not the intended way to play either. Doing a run in that regard to make it more like pokemon intentionally is kinda on you at that point 🤣 It's sorta like saying "woah if I play splitgate and never use the portals it's a freaking halo ripoff!" Like no crap if you ignore the unique elements of a game it'll be much closer to a clone of its inspiration.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@ZiaGameDev Which makes the experience comparable to pokemon whether by set rules or intention. Palworld is a sandbox game, you can play it however way you want. Aside from mechanics from other genres, Palworld is still part of the monster genre. You battle, capture, train, and breed monsters, just like we all did in Pokemon for more than 2 decades. We fight 'gym' leaders and we can also 'shiny' hunt. All these gameplay and the monsters are what defined pokemon and we have all that PLUS MORE in Palworld.

[@ZiaGameDev]

@@D3adCl0wn I'm not arguing that palworld didn't rip off pokemon in alot of ways. It did. But it 100% innovated dramatically on the genre. That's a normal phenomenon we see incredibly often in game development. Every "souls-like" game is absolutely a rip off of dark souls. But they all innovate on the idea in interesting ways to differentiate themselves from the competition. Rust is a rip off of Day z but it innovated by allowing players to build their own bases. Split gate is a copy of halo and portal but by merging them together the gameplay became unique and fundamentally different to its sources of inspiration. Palworld is in the same boat. It essentially took elements of a bunch of established genres and kit bashed them together. In my mind it merged pokemon with ark and it did it in a way that makes it core gameplay fundamentally different from the two. You fight alongside your pals instead of just commanding them. You build bases and use your pals to automate tasks (something ark does not have at all) It's like yes. Palworld took alot of inspiration and design aspects from pokemon but that happens incredibly often in video games. Could you imagine if wolfenstein, doom, or quake patented the first person shooter genre? It's like catching creatures in a ball and fighting with them is an absurd thing to try and defend that only one IP can use that 😒 Games evolve over time. Every modern game takes concepts and designs from their predecessors and from their competition. Nothing is truly unique. The 100% unique games that do come out are extremely niche and seem more like art pieces than games. It's not about monopolizing a design concept. Pokemon should strive to make the best games possible with the design. They have the popularity. They have an absurd budget. And they do nothing with it. Competition like palworld should encourage them to make better games not shut down competitions. This lawsuit is a joke and puts the entire games industry at risk since again nobody is unique.

[@Therealpiemaster123]

3:42 It wasn't "strategically hold back", as much as Nintendo just saying Oh let's paten these mechanics in their game that is also in our game so we can sue them retroactively sense paten work like a company changing their EULA where they can decide something allowed 6 years ago is no longer allowed.

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

Ye i read in a other koment aslong as it overlaps a little with a older patent it can be back dated with the neuw info aded after the fact and Nintendo is back dating 2024 patent to 2017 so in short Nintendo patent pouwworld mechanism and then back dated it to ad onto a old patent and in japan its cald parenting in a patent witch to me is not justified or ok ever but up side is the new patent wil start runing from 2017 date so wen the original patent expired so wil the new 😢

[@pon2oon]

They're Nintendo, so they can do whatever they want.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@j.cv.bmerwe6304 It is literally stealing the innovation of others. If someone comes along and does the concept better, you get to keep the upgrades. While making sure that individual has to also pay you for the privilege of the free work!

[@Anupamprime]

Lets Boycott Nintendo guys

[@gnostic94]

If nintendo wins, i will never buy anything nintendo ever again, and when I have kids, I will never buy them anyting nintendo related, I hope enough people can vote with their wallets.

[@CD-vb9fi]

How about we just not buy anything Nintendo period? It's time for Nintendo to go the way of Disney now.

[@FiftyBuckCrusader]

@@CD-vb9fiI would but man, the games are pretty fun

[@apexghost1294]

@@gnostic94 we both know not enough people will boycott. It’s gaming, not politics.

[@CD-vb9fi]

@@FiftyBuckCrusader Not for long. If you keep supporting them with your money then you will have fewer less fun games. Have you not been paying any attention to the market? What is going on now is an effort for Nintendo to get a Monopoly. Is that what you want? If so... keep giving them money. Just be aware you lose your right complain when you finally tired of it.

[@FiftyBuckCrusader]

@@CD-vb9fi I’m looking at Mario not the market, sadly I’ll buy out just about any Mario game they come up with feeling I should as a fan

[@hijackdallas6052]

The patent with "the catching of monster/ect." in which the ball shakes 3 times, can be relatively fast updated to a constantly spining motion. No shaking = no patent breaching Other patent however does take some time

[@lordjaraxxus5418]

But the pal spheres only shake 2 times...

[@amanawolf9166]

What concerns me is the idea of them patenting anything related to "catching" creatures, and then patent "taming" as well. Nintendo has gone so far off the deepend they've effectively ended up on the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

[@InitialPC]

the idea of the ball shaking 3 times is not patented, just the idea of throwing an object whatsoever is patented

[@kampfer91]

Yeahhh good luck , they gonna modify theirs patent later to sue another time .

[@zeehero7280]

@@amanawolf9166 Nintendo stole that to begin with.

[@das2s4s]

From my understanding Nintendo filed for a modification to an older patent to incorporate a provisional patent of the mechanic; the capturing of monsters using a capture object and the riding of said creatures that you capture, as well as a few others. All in order to have the legal right to use the old patent's date of authenticity to sue Pocket pair and other company for infringing on mechanics that they used, even though it was implemented in Nintendo's games after Palworld was created. Effectively Nintendo is using scummy legal loopholes to get rid of their competition. It's honestly a shame.

[@TheSongDragon]

its completely honorless. honestly i would not be surprised if some of those lawyers ancestors are turning in their graves at such dishonorable actions.

[@kitsunelele6411]

Nintendo should be sued for anti-competition practices and have their patents revoked!

[@-mindyourownbusiness]

I have a PC and Switch, always had the Nintendo consoles current to the time, this is disappointing as instead of improving their quality, seen how Palworld did something they should have done years ago... I've decided to stop supporting it and limit myself to buy a few selected games like zelda but I will stop buying new games I could find interesting or Switch versions even though I always did instead of the PC to show my support for games on Switch, I will also not renew my online subscription, I played since NES and so many games, I was truly a fan but this is too much, they can't patent everything that crosses their eyes, like riding flying creatures??? Wtf! Nintendo has lost me as a fan and I'm sure like me, there are many more.

[@Ziyoblader]

Agree

[@rps215]

I also never bothered with Switch, hardly any of the games interested me. Sad, because there were so many great games in GB, GBA, DS, and 3DS that I enjoyed.

[@Lum2022]

World of Warcraft has had flying mounts since 2007 I believe. The reasoning for the lawsuit is just ridiculous.

[@brainchamber99]

To be honest, it's starting to get to a point where people will just stop challenging Nintendo even if they are completely legally in the clear. They tried doing this to Dolphin and failed. They tried doing this with the guy who emulated the first NES game back in the late 80s and failed. They have done this with Game Genie and failed. Stop bending the knee to scare tactics. Just clear yourself of actual infringement like Yuzu selling builds of TotK. If you're building an emu with open source code, there's nothing to fear

[@Aldenfenris]

And that is their idea. Two ways to be number one, make the best products or scare people from trying to compete.

[@MorfsPrower]

Either compete and innovate, or destroy and stagnate. And we see which one Nintendo will pick.

[@FoxyPercival714]

It's amazing that nobody brings up Monster Rancher. A simple game that is different. Pokemon was a catching game, the other is a monster farm/sim game.

[@shadowentity777]

Monster rancher is better than pokeshit

[@FoxyPercival714]

@@shadowentity777 and that's okay. No need for language or being so dark little edgelord.

[@Steamuch]

Pixelmon Mod mechanics date back all the way to early 2014. Years before Pokemon GO, Pokemon Sword/Shield and Legends Arceus picked up on that trend. So Nintendo is the one shady party in all that patent infringement stuff.

[@lugismansion2400]

yea! even in PIXELMON you could ride Pokemon WAY before the Let's Go games came out! before they came out it was just a flying animation with either a shadow bird or Charizard!

[@Outrack]

1:37 No excuse is needed, Namco’s patent expired a few years ago.

[@MekoStClair]

“Riding Flying creatures”?????? Does that mean they could sue skyrim for allowing you to ride flying dragons??? What about dragons dogma ? You can technically ride flying creatures as you kill them. Wtf Nintendo.

[@Mechazoid5116]

Nintendo made the majority of these patents AFTER Craftopia which already had these mechanics. Palworld was announced and had trailers showing these mechanics BEFORE the patent. If Nintendo wins that means RetroActive Patents becomes the reality. This will destroy Industry. Not just video games ALL of them.

[@phlungpu1566]

Nintendo is attacking the creativity that nintendo has inspired in their fans over generations. Nintendo failed their fans and nintendo can grow up

[@mesadrums375]

In Japan. It will ruin games in Japan. Patent law doesn’t work the same everywhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of Japanese devs make shell companies in the US and sell it everywhere else aside from Japan. A lot of big studios especially at Sony probably won’t sell in Japan to avoid lawsuits.

[@Blahblah-oo7lk]

I think according to industry insiders all the large game and toy corporations in Japan have patents and constantly infringe on them all the time regardless if the infringement was intentional or unintentional. This creates a patent "cold war" between the game companies as to not disturb the "natural order" This usually mean agreements, contracts, licensing, etc. Once in a while the there are lawsuits between these companies for patent infringement but effectively it is sort of a MAD doctrine. PocketPair likely did something that made Nintendo mad or feel like they have disturbed the "natural order" to fire a patent infringement lawsuit of all things.

[@ericswanson411]

Since Nintendo thinks it is all mighty and can do whatever they want, then I saw it is time to remind them who really has the power by not buying any of their products for at least a year. Then see them squirm due to the lack of sales. All of these companies forget who keep them in business and it is time for a reminder again.

[@h0ll0w0ne]

A good plan but Nintendo fan boys are not gonna do that. Hell, they won't even admit Nintendo is doing anything wrong, ever.

[@MorfsPrower]

A year won't convince them of anything. Just like a day didn't convince former Twitter when their users boycotted them. Nintendo will see a year of downed sales as people not liking those games, not people disliking their actions and behavior. It would just make them change the formulas or stop the IPs indefinitely, like the unhinged corporate shames they are.

[@Lapsio]

like many channels and people already noticed - Nintendo doesn't cather to gamers. They cather to kids and normies who play game once a month for few days and don't even know about this or any other Nintendo drama. It's different market, they will survive probably even without adult gamers at all. What they wouldn't survive is those kids asking parents for Palworld plushies instead of Pokemon ones. Stakes are high.

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

Nintendo woont be bothered the patent bringing in alot of revenue other gaming studios pay them 😢 And other royaltys from pokemon mario 😅

[@stirfriedbambooshoots8396]

@@Lapsio You seem to forget a lot of parents are also gamers, and a lot of kids are on the internet also looking at this. This isn't a decade or so ago. They're playing with fire and could lose all their business in the west.

[@stephen6992]

This is so stupid I hope they lose because this could be a bleak reality because why should companies bother making games better because they can just sue their competitors

[@Arcansel]

The real issue is japanese people look up to nintendo differently, they believe they are entitled to fight for what they think it is theirs, when in reality it isnt (game mechanics), their patents can be contested like they were before, what they want is a battle of who lasts longer and win through exaustion and Nintendo being well rich af they do have a big chance of winning unfortunately. The only way imo i see of Palworld winning is by making Nintendo realize how bad their reputation is getting outside of Japan and the consequences of it, one thing i am certain, whatever the outcome, a lot will change after this "war".

[@paragonyoshi4237]

Since when does Nintendo care about their reputation outside Japan? But either way, as long as Nintendo has their loyalists, no amount of backlash is going to fix anything.

[@Arcansel]

@@paragonyoshi4237 The bad reputation could result in hurting their sales outside Japan, thats why they should care.

[@orion2992]

​@paragonyoshi4237 do you really think Japan has enough population to keep nintendo going?? Nintendo is ONLY big because people outside of Japan buy there stuff worldwide. There are over 500 million players that play on Nintendo. Imagine if 100 million or 300 million people just stopped buying from nintendo. That whole company will go down under.

[@JuneTheFay]

​@@ArcanselTheir main target demographic in kids and clueless parents won't be informed on this stuff. I really think that's what they're banking on.

[@RyuDouro]

to hell with nintendo

[@Tekusen]

If Sotaru Iwata saw what was happening, he'd be pissed.

[@SteampunkNightmare]

The answer is simple; we dissolve Nintendo. Refuse to buy their games and merchandise. Sadly there will always be those who just can't resist

[@azeroth2994]

That's why we need to teach children about Nintendo being a bully

[@kylegraham3192]

This whole suing process is completely unnecessary for both Palworld and Nintendo

[@dreymak4071]

And we all know they're ONLY doing this because Palworld is successful. Think about how long Palworld has been around, and only NOW are they mad? They just don't want competition, simple as.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@dreymak4071 Especially when you add to the fact that Pocketpiar is expanding similar to The Pokemon Company back in 1998 (the thing that sparked Pokemania globally).

[@johnhanzelyjr]

@@dreymak4071 Exactly......and just think of what will happen if Nintendo wins (or even forces a settlement....which is what Nintendo actually wants). They'll go on a warpath to then sue ALL games that even mildly compete against their own IPs.....aka...they don't want ANY competition for IP Genres they have. They literally want a monopoly....as in...Pokemon being the ONLY choice for Monster-Catching.

[@dreymak4071]

@@johnhanzelyjr Which will end up crippling them in the end, since people will be too pissed at Nintendo to even think about giving them money. It's scorched earth tactics.

[@BriceInkling138]

Nintendo shouldn't win this lawsuit. I love Pokémon and Palworld, but this lawsuit is nothing but pettiness and a feeling that Nintendo is being threatened than anything else.

[@Solesteam]

I feel like the Pal World devs should consult multiple fans that have some knowledge of law or Nintendo's Patent Monopoly to fight back against.

[@xaracen7207]

6:21 "Pal"pabable you say?

[@BloodyBook]

Pun not intended but very welcome lmao

[@zeehero7280]

Nintendo has already lost. Their lawsuit has no ground to stand on at all. They should prepare for the incoming lawsuit from Atlus. Pokemon is a ripoff of Shin Megamei Tensei, along with some systems.

[@reddragon2943]

Just change the Ball into a Gauntlet or some kind of Wristwatch thing to capture the monsters. Hell just make it a GUN that captures the monsters like a Trankulizer gun. they need to find a way. But Nintendo is ASS for doing this. Everybody should just never buy Nintendo Crap ever again. But that will never happen.

[@bluelightstudios6191]

I honestly hope nintendo keeps going down this path of selfishness and anti consumerism. You might be suprised but even the most loyalist of fans will start to lose interest and respect for a company that thinks less of them and begins to produce mediocre slop. I'm guessing we're at the first stage of Nintendo's dillusion, I hope some major repercussion comes from this.

[@Victor-056]

@@bluelightstudios6191 Especially since people have claimed for decades that "Disney is a massive giant, it will _NEVER_ fall"... Yet several bad Star Wars sequels and Live-Action shows later, as well as many poorly designed Disneyland rides later, and Disney is actually in a downwards spiral with many Shareholders severing ties and asking actually hard questions that Disney doesn't want to answer. And it all started from the same thing as what Nintendo is currently doing: Trying to suffocate the competition, while turning a deaf ear to their _ACTUAL_ Fanbase and audience, until it is too late.

[@Aldenfenris]

The issue is, we need to know what patents are in question, and how they work, and even if they change things now, at the very least, they still get to extort money from pocket pair. There is a chance the"patent" is written in such a way it means changing the full mechanics drastically to try to avoid it. Not sure Nintendo would bother with the lawsuit and patents if it was as simple as changing the models. Remember, it is not copyright, it is the game mechanics

[@Kradily]

Why stop there call it what it is and have you launch a full on magical chain& shackle that connects to neck,arms and legs and if they win the struggle the chains break if they don’t they get ghostbuster esk sucked into said arm gauntlet!

[@sep.42]

The thing is, it doesn't just say from a ball. It says, "a player character is caused to launch, in the aiming direction, an item that affects a field character" and "the player character is caused to launch, in the aiming direction, a fighting character that fights". No matter what u use, u are still launching an item or a player/fighting character.

[@ariavelantine]

when the hero becomes the villain

[@cliffordkun2844]

I am really sad to what Pokèmon have become. Pokèmon have really fallen from grace.

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

suppose nintendo has indeed lived long enough to become the villain as the old saying goes.

[@user-BadUsername]

3:26 so that means they could hypothetically sue doom the dark ages now because you fly on a dragon creature

[@williamvalorious4403]

its not based in japan....so nintend will be made a quicker laughing stock

[@ballistic66]

Wow really shows how little people do research on the issues of patent and why they are using pal world and specifics of it

[@DisgustingJustinAD]

Just imagine if Nintendo starts being like "No DARK SOULS~~! You cannot add potions in to your game! Remove it now!"

[@FurlowT]

If Nintendo patented Riding on animals, why aren't they sueing games like Ark: Survival Evolved, or any those countless other games that let you ride on creatures? Nintendo is just being so damn greedy with the Law Suet...

[@Xenephos]

Because ARK isn’t a thrrat to Nintendo’s profit margins like Palworld is. This isn’t about them being mad that Palworld used a patented idea. This is them snuffing out the competition like a bully.

[@teamofone1219]

@@Xenephos They have gone after rom hacks before even though they weren't a threat to Nintendo's profits and were completely free.

[@ryouskun4754]

Because pocketpair is japanese. Ark is made by grapeshot an american company, and would thus be held in american court. And if nintendo ever tried that sort of patent gymnastic in front of an american judge they'd probably laugh at their face and call it a SLAP suit.

[@FurlowT]

@@ryouskun4754 I get ya, it's just them being greedy either way.

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

because as long as those studios arent in japan, then nintendo cant do shit to them as patents in japan wont mean a fucking thing outside of japan.

[@DillioGherkin]

Don't forget that Palworld is teaming up with Sony. That is there real fear.

[@TheOnlyBiodude]

Nintendo fanboys are conditioned loyalists. They’re stuck in the past. All that "love" Nintendo has for Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon? Yeah, it’s not passion or creativity fueling that; it’s financial security. Nintendo cracked the code ages ago. They realized their fans will buy any game featuring their favorite characters, so why bother making anything new? They’ve been playing it safe, milking the same franchises with small, incremental "innovations" over the years. Nintendo's whole strategy revolves around protecting their precious franchises from any kind of comparison or imitation. They need to avoid their safety bubble being popped. And let's face it, they’ve groomed generations of people into blind loyalty. I’ve never seen such devotion in my life. Sure, it’s only natural considering many grow up to associate fun and nostalgia with Nintendo games, but knowing that Nintendo counts on that? That's kinda cringe. It’s one thing to build an audience, but when you realize you might be grooming them and still keep doing it? That’s some next level manipulation. Look I know companies all bank on loyalty in some form, but Nintendo deliberately targets them young these days. When groomed adults play these games they are "returning to innocence" as some folks call it. These poor souls. Nintendo knows exactly what they’re doing with people as a whole, and that’s why their fanbase stays locked in, no matter how little they innovate.

[@nighthowler5590]

The fact that something as stupid, simple and small as just storage can be patented is just purely sad and pitiful. Sure if it was unlike anything before then I can see it slightly being a thing, but storage is one of the oldest, most common and useful mechanics in so many different games. If people slap a sticker of "Oh hey, patent here" on the smallest of things, how will anyone ever be able to make a game? The fact that they didn't even say what exactly was patented is extremely terrible. Give an actual proper reason instead of making them have to guess what they're doing wrong, especially if it's such a "big deal" to Nintendo. I honestly hope that Pocket Pai will win, especially if they care so much about their fans and their opinions.

[@randomvideos3616]

Boycott nintendo. Its time to make pokemon pay

[@cliffordkun2844]

I agree with this, despite me liking Pokèmon, Pokèmon needs to be taught a lesson.

[@valor1omega]

Won't work, too many in the pokemon cult to be of any effect.

[@nab-v1w]

imagine if there was a patent on loading screen from doom, no video game could put a picture for the data loading ! you can't patent mecanics and type of game ! i hate nintendo so much, how can i harm them ?

[@LuluGamingDK]

I still stand by my statement. I made from the very beginning. Nintendo was gonna come after them because it's innovative... They can use any fancy term or language to disguise it, but they are threatened. Pokemon been using the same code base.. The same building models... With just slightly change in graphics. I feel like i'm still playing a child's game when I pick up pokemon. And this might sound weird to bring up, but it's one of the Major reasons why i've switched to more ballys companies. I've been a big supporter of CIG, And the star engine project. Because the gaming world needs something new and star engine has the potential to crack the seal on dynamic server meshing. Which could change the direction of all gaming Companies move forward from here on out.

[@lewis9s]

The fact that you can patent game mechanics is fucking dystopian. Imagine working hard and making a beautiful game, everything falls soo perfectly into place only for it to get shut down because there’s one scene where you fly on a bird.

[@ChunkSchuldinga]

I like to pretend Nintendo unalived with Iwata, and Breath of the Wild was their swansong.

[@KillerMoustache]

Palworld's mechanics aren't similar to Pokémon at all. Pokémon has followed the same stale formula from decade and now they're mad about it?

[@Camarinox]

A decade?, They are just about to hit the 3 decades flag doing the same formula.

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

If Nintendo wins this lawsuit, then they're opening a can of worms that they don't want to think about. Anybody can go and patent a system if it isn't already covered... and that means people can patent systems Nintendo uses all the time and then sue them into the dirt, and they won't have any way out of it because THEY set the precedent.

[@ghostrecondelta1741]

If that happens, I am going to file patent for the shade of color for Pikachu.

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

only if they are based in japan. companies outside of japan cant and vice versa.

[@TetrisKing]

How is Pokemon allowed to copy write flying around on creatures when that is vague af. Who they gonna sue next Skyrim, Monster hunter, Minecraft etc. So many games allow you to fly around on creatures.

[@Blahblah-oo7lk]

correction, patent. Copyrights involve a whole other set of laws. But it isn't surprising game mechanics get patented all the time usually because lawmakers believe it would incentivize innovation by forcing people to reveal their secrets to the public but in exchange get strong, but temporary legal protection for their innovative concepts. In the US among the big three branches of IP law, Trademarks, Copyrights, and Patents. In the USA patents are pretty restrictive (i.e. you get protection on A + B + C but not if someone else invents A +B+ C+ D) and offer strong protection of exclusivity but for a relatively short period, while trademarks are indefinite so long as the company is actively policing their trademarks and copyrights last up to 70 years after the author's death or 95 years after publication. The thing is that patents tend to deal with technological issues and is not designed for the modern era even if it was updated a decade or so ago.

[@josephoverton3740]

Someone patent breathing oxygen and just sue the world.

[@Klorophyte]

Quick disclaimer: This is moreso about Sony against Nintendo now, not an indie studio.

[@kosquo4328]

SOOOOO messed up. Seriously considering not buying anything from Nintendo because of the way they're acting.

[@crazymage5316]

Iwata would be super disappointed

[@duanefouche378]

Also, if you check the patents you will see that there are an alarming number of them that were only filed or approved AFTER the release of Palworld. Meaning there is a very real chance that Nintendo filed patents for some shared mechanics for the sole purpose of screwing Palworld. They've done some scummy things in the past, but if these patents are the ones they are suing for it is by far their worst offense.

[@emilcfcf]

Pixelmon had catching pokemon in a field out of combat before pokemon did💀

[@ForemostCrab7]

Nintendo thinks they are too big to fail at this point, and they seriously need to be Stopped.

[@gamekiller4488]

If there gonna complain about flying they might as well sue ark developers oh wait they're to scared to lose so they go for easy targets

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

they literally cant though. patents arent universl, you cant use them anywhere you want. in this case its a japan only thing.

[@aeit999]

Well after Ubisoft it's time to take down Nintendo. What a busy year for gamers and valve.

[@miciso666]

Least ubishit doesnt send people. Or take down ur videos or streams

[@reddragon2943]

Gaming all around the world has turned into a shit show.

[@galkanftw]

I been saying it for over 30 years the best way to stop Developer bullying is to never give them a dollar that way they get the message loud and clear.

[@stonedscared8461]

Now I know who to blame when i'm waiting in the loading screen and have nothing to do.

[@206Zelda]

I'll still play Palworld, and I am swearing off buying Pokemon games. It wasn't just Nintendo frontlining this, but the Pokemon Company at their side. I have no doubt they might crush yet another thing I love. But that won't stop me from loving what is no longer there.

[@Piper0185]

Here is the problem for Nintendo. If the patents they filed are vague, which they kind of are, then its bad for Them, not pocket pair. The more vague the patent, the easier it is to go around it. Patents are meant to be technical and VERY specific. Change 1 detail, and in most cases, the patent doesnt apply. This is where it will bite Nintendo in the foot. Nintendo has said they wanted to try the USA for the patents too, but lawyers have said Good Luck. Patent law in the US is very specific and they will fail. Even if Nintendo does win in Japan, it means nothing. Palworls audience is mostly Western anyway and they cant shut it down. As well, if they get $ from Palworld, it is only based on the Market the law applies to, so Japan. Not what Palworld has made total. All this does, which I think was the whole point to begin with, Is slow Palworlds growth in Japan, now that Sony and Pocket Pair have formed "Palworld Entertainment" to challenge Nintendo. This could take years too, in which Pocket Pair will have grown considerably with Sonys help. They are here to stay.

[@catlovergamer7101]

Nintendo was going to lose because a patent of throwing balls mechanic is tentacally patent trolling because pocket pair made another game called crafttopia

[@danielmalinen6337]

It depends on whether the Japanese judge is on Nintendo's side or not. Nintendo has a frighteningly high level of support in Japan, which reduces the probability of PocketPair. But I hope that PocketPair wins this case for everyone's sake because otherwise the entire game industry will lose this lawsuit and in the future making games would be more limited due to Nintendo's patents.

[@Victor-056]

@@danielmalinen6337 Nintendo may actually end up losing harder. They are acting like the Disney Company entering into the 2010s, which was where their downward spiral started. They basically started buying out and mistreating IPs that did not originally belong to them, while threatening absurd suits against those they couldn't buy out. In essence, we are seeing Nintendo repeat history, where they start out with a whole lot of simps corralling around their biggus junkus, and as the returns diminish, their simps start leaving, and no amount of bribary and threats will bring them back... And Nintendo would crumble.

[@MorfsPrower]

They will teach other corpos that patent trolling is a viable strategy and indie devs will be snuffed out trying to wade through a minefield of litigation. This whole situation is psychotic.

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

​@@danielmalinen6337 the f up thing is there game pokemon is modeld after is older but pokemon patented the mechanism ?? I doont get it

[@cloudfire181]

From what a Japanese patent lawyer found it was 28 patents with 4 divisional patents since the pokemon company is a co-plaintiff in the lawsuit. Those 28 are shared between Nintendo and the pokemon company.

[@grimreaper63151]

I was honestly thinking of buying a switch to play with my friends. But after this I don’t know if I want to now. Instead of having healthy competition so they can better themselves, Nintendo sues the competition so that they cease to exist. And they can continue to be lazy by doing so

[@miciso666]

Get a steamdeck. Play pokemon at 60fps instead of 30

[@stirfriedbambooshoots8396]

If you do, buy secondhand. Money doesn't go to nintendo and you can play the games you want to play. Other option is the much better handheld, the steamdeck.

[@Vilerofcool]

Nintendo is scared Sh!tless because a game is based off of their game and is by all means better. What's the point in doing competition when you just cheat? Like imagine breaking your opponents legs mid match so that you could get to the end, was that really competition at that point or was it just pettiness that someone might be better than you?

[@lugismansion2400]

the fact that competition is actually GOOD for companies ESPECIALLY video game companies yet companies like Nintendo just choose violence no questions asked

[@charlesdeliberis239]

There's zero evidence or evidence this enfringes on anything

[@FizzBirdMan]

whats really funny is that one of that patents that are being infringed was made AFTER palworld came out. by a good few months too

[@uiharuhimeji5614]

no, all 3-4 of them were made after

[@IBW_3000]

Keep in mind that Japanese law actively encourages this behaviour.

[@nestormentoso]

Declare videogames a form of art expression

[@Theases2001]

patents in videogames should be illegal

[@blizzyrat4738]

The flying on creatures patent would never hold up in court, it has precedent in games, movies, books, even myths from over a 1000 years old

[@baraka629]

Thing is, the patent office doesn't check if a patent application is meritous or not. They grant most patents unless there are issues with formalities. The courts are the place to figure out if a patent stands up to the bar imposed for being granted one, not the patent office. And most of the stuff we have seen Nintendo show is nothing that crosses the necessary threshold of innovation to be worthy of a patent. Stuff that any proficient person in a given field could plausibly come up with on their own is not 'clever' enough to be protected by patents. A ball throwing mechanic is almost certain to fall into that category.

[@InTheLightDJ]

If Nintendo loses be ready for every fan site and fan game (like pokemon shadow my game) to get a CD letter and get shut down from the revenge desires of Nintendo

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

Ryujinx can just be reuploaded by thousand of different people, Nintendo can't win you know.

[@InsomniacTroop]

It’s not even the game industry, this can expand to anything and everything creative. Movies, TV shows… this is really scary.

[@ModgeDonkey]

I remember years ago when Palworld was first being made, that lots of Pokemon fans said finally, a company that is listening to them. Then, when the game actually released, I saw even more say the same, that they'd even actually contacted Nintendo several times making suggestions for their games, instead of them releasing the same stale, broken games every time....

[@DudeSoWin]

So Nintendo is using a patent for software they no longer sell meant to run on hardware they no longer sell.

[@tachi1034]

they're loading a blunder bust of legal paperwork in japan, internationally nintendo would likely be greeted by EU laughing at them for that, and states side would lead to getting told to go pound sand.

[@crystalbry4741]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that Nintendo in the 80s was part of the reason why you can't rent games or movies anymore in Japan. They tried in America with blockbuster and it was denied in court.

[@ickerolig]

"Completely legal emulators" Let's not kid ourselves, we know why they exists. But the Palworld lawsuit is BS. They've had over 20 years to create an actual good Pokémon game and not a dumpster fire turn based jrpg.