Nintendo just killed open-source emulator Yuzu

Nintendo recently sued an open-source Nintendo Switch emulator called Yuzu. Let's take a look at the hacking techniques used to exploit the Switch and find out what this lawsuit means for game developers.
#gamedev #hacking #thecodereport
💬 Chat with Me on Discord
/ discord
🔗 Resources
Nintendo Lawsuit www.polygon.com/24085140/nint...
Yuzu on GitHub github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu
Programming stereotypes • 10 Programmer Stereotypes
🔥 Get More Content - Upgrade to PRO
Upgrade at fireship.io/pro
Use code YT25 for 25% off PRO access
🎨 My Editor Settings
- Atom One Dark
- vscode-icons
- Fira Code Font
🔖 Topics Covered
- Why is Nintendo suing Yuzu?
- Nintendo Lawsuit History
- Are video game emulators illegal?
- How does DMCA affect developers
- Hacking exploits on Nintendo switch

[@Fireship]

🚨Update... Yuzu is done. Nintendo won. Repo, patreon, website, all gone.

[@stray8468]

Nintendo needs to be punished by the public in some way for being extremely invasive on what their fans want to do so they stop. it does not affect them, its pure greed and spite for them to go after small projects only tech-savvy nerds can use.

[@-BarathKumarS]

lol people have already backed up the repo,it’s gonna be renamed and shipped around with different names now

[@OniiRem]

Nintendo playing whack-a-mole at this point, see another switch emulator pop up with another name

[@crashniels]

@@-BarathKumarS Yeah. Same thing happened with Tachiyomi and it did not take 24 hours for a new fork to come up.

[@kylegusek]

​@@crashnielsthe new fork should be called reyuzu

[@UNgineering]

if buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.

[@pouks]

your can buy physical copies of your nintendo games

[@-DMD-]

Actually a great point

​@@ScoutOnlyhe literally just said physical

[@thedude3005]

​@@pouksyou do not own anything more than digital when you own physical

[@-DMD-]

@@pouksyea but you don’t really own them, it’s more of a leasing type scenario like with 90% software (including your phone’s / smart cars’)

[@Yenzi769]

Nintendo really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Yuzu is getting all this free publicity now!

[@QuantumChrist]

Nintendo will not sur with they surely will win. Yuzu is shaking in fear right now.

[@adriengrsmto8658]

Not sure man, see Popcorntime, it quickly died when the big bois went for it

[@kleyyer]

Bot

[@daexion]

Nintendo has to sue them even if they might lose the reason being that if they don't, then it might set a precedent that is used in the future that can be used as a defense when Nintendo sues someone else for the same thing or something similar. The defense ends up being since they didn't sue for the same/similar thing before, they lose the right to sue over this other thing later. Whether or not that would actually work in court doesn't matter since Nintendo wants to avoid that being a possibility later. Trademark and copyright law can get technical like that, but that's just my non-lawyerly understanding of it. YMMV

[@renewagain6956]

​@@QuantumChrist Yuzu will not sur with they surely will win. Nintendo is shaking in fear right now. [I corrected your lies with the power of truth. You're welcome, you degenerate.]

[@37Jhian]

This feels like the adblock situation back last year, KZbin essentially gave adblock free advertising and now more people have been using it ever since. Plus adblock got better in the end

[@Wesley-Insley-Comedy]

Yuzu being open sourced is just going to cause a hydra type situation and this is only generating more good press for emulators

[@z_0968]

The Streisand Effect

[@elramtv]

Hail Hydra

[@asiliria]

I forked the entirety of their repositories lol, in case if they go down.

[@canaconn2388]

Yuzu stole code from ryujinx 😂

[@drifter6870]

you know what's not open source, the keys they tell you how to get on their website. yuzu would not work without the keys. Nintendo will spank them for this.

[@jwr6796]

Love how this was basically a tutorial complete with specific URLs.

[@cube2fox]

It's unethical to promote piracy of video games. That only drives prices up and leads to more piracy etc. Ultimately video game studios earn less money and can make fewer games.

[@yaxpatel]

@@cube2fox 🤓 🤓 🤓

[@randomindex]

@@cube2fox Genuinely: do you have a source for the claim that piracy drives up prices and/or that video game studios earn less money?

[@stellaperez6883]

​@@cube2foxnintendo's boots taste that good?

[@DrakeDoe]

@@cube2fox Let's take a look at the data... from everything we're seeing it looks like you're completely wrong! games make more money than they've ever made and make a more money than any other industry makes in totality. The only thing that drives up the price of video games is greedy publishers.

[@ryzzlas]

Meanwhile, Valve with their Steam Deck being like "just do whatever you want with it, it's yours". Knowing well, that people having fun with experimenting with it, will actually create positive word-of-mouth marketing for them.

[@roko98332r]

memed AI gaben video recite fck switch. steamdeck were ultimate nintendo pirating device

[@zekiz774]

​@@roko98332rlol no. I don't play any switch games on my steam deck. It's just so convenient that I can play literally anywhere. I now have an extra 3h a day I can play games instead of doing nothing while traveling

[@mgord9518]

Because who could've guessed selling a good device that gives users the freedom to use their own property how they please would be seen as a positive The Steam Deck could be half as powerful as it is and I'd still love it because it doesn't feel the need to lock me out of my own damn toy.

[@AchedSphinx]

nah, nintendo don't operate like that. the only thing they care about is protecting their IP since their IP = nintendo. if the value of their IP is diminished, so is their company. valve has some solid IP, but if those are tarnished, well they've got a huge ass monopoly on online gaming.

[@JoNarDLoLz]

​@@AchedSphinx they only have a huge monopoly because Steam has a better service than their competitors

[@MK73DS]

People seem to misunderstand the situation. Nintendo didn't attack Yuzu because it can play Switch games. Nintendo attacked Yuzu because they locked behind a paywall features and bugfixes for games **not released** at the time, mainly The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. Yes, Yuzu is open-source, but Yuzu Early-Access isn't. Some features become public after a few days or weeks, but this precisely means it's **not** public and open-source. This early access version of Yuzu is by definition a paid version of Yuzu, sold for profit. This alone justifies Nintendo for attacking it (is it moral or not, that's not the question, this gives them the **rights** to attack since they're **selling** an emulator). But on top of that, this early access versions added patches and bug fixes for The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom **before** its release, only for Patreon. How could they test and bugfix a game not released? Yes. Piracy. This is proof that the Yuzu team, even if it's a single member, used piracy to develop Yuzu at one point. That is more than enough for Nintendo to attack them. It's also the reason Ryujinx didn't get attacked by Nintendo. They're cleaner than Yuzu in this regard. I love emulation. I'm a defender of emulation and game preservation. And I hate Nintendo for their anti-consumer policies. But this time, Yuzu just messed up. Even within the open-source emulation scene, Yuzu wasn't really loved by everyone for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Pineapple, a **pirated** version of Yuzu Early-Access (how do you pirate an open-source project? spoiler: it's not open-source) was made by an ex-Yuzu developer who didn't like the direction Yuzu was going. I don't want to go in the drama or pick a side, but Yuzu isn't as clean as you make it sound. Still, it was an amazing emulator. The Switch will soon meet its end of life and having a fully functional emulator puts my mind at peace knowing my games aren't gone once my system breaks. It's a real shame it is now gone. Thankfully competition existed almost since day one with Ryujinx. People always asked "why do you need two emulators?" and now you have your answer. Ryujinx is sometimes behind Yuzu in terms of performance but it's still an amazing software which **won't** get shut down in the near future, unless they make a terrible mistake. There are also Switch emulators for Android like Strato which are in development and show promising results. Citra being gone as well (note: this is **not** Nintendo's doing, it's Tropic Haze LLC (the devs) shutting down Citra in the process) is the real bummer there. The 3DS is defunct and playing via emulation is better than playing on real hardware. There are other 3DS emulators in development but since Citra was so good they were all just hobbyist projects which aren't vert fleshed out, so for now 3DS emulation took a harder hit than Switch emulation, while being the most important right now (the Switch is still an active system). Love or hate Nintendo, love or hate Yuzu, this situation is really bad but it doesn't kill emulation forever. Nintendo still let Dolphin up even after sending a DMCA notice to Valve for adding it to Steam. Nintendo is aware of everything, of every emulator out there, if they don't take action it's because they know they don't have the rights to do so. Emulation is not dead, it's legal, and will always be, unless you do something illegal like piracy. Just like it is illegal to use leaked documents to develop and emulator, it is illegal to use a pirated game to fix your emulator. Yuzu is therefore illegal since the release date of Tears of the Kingdom. Does it really invalidate all the hard work of the devs to make the emulator? I don't think so, but Nintendo is right to say "yes" and attack them.

[@kristofzsoldos4240]

well said

[@danialaroff]

Agreed

[@danialaroff]

Agreed

[@Amadeus_Mee]

A well put argumentation, nicely done!

[@Nathanator]

Very well said

[@nirajmaharjan7495]

Nintendo suing Yuzu is just like suing VLC software for pirating movies 😂😂💀

[@minteasip]

^ This. If someone pirated a switch game, then they did so before they ever started up Yuzu.

[@yourmomsboyfriend3337]

Pretty bad analogy, VLC doesn’t have a tutorial to scrape movies from Netflix and are not making thousands of dollars a month. VLC also can play completely legal videos, while Yuzu almost exclusively plays copyrighted content that Nintendo sells. I’m not a Nintendo fanboy but this analogy doesn’t work

[@mr0o]

​@@yourmomsboyfriend3337Yuzu doesn't provide tutorials for where to torrent switch roms either. The analogy works pretty good here imo

[@serioserkanalname499]

Nintendo boutta sue every monitor maker on earth for facilitating piracy of their games on a "colossal scale"

[@Magnos]

​@@yourmomsboyfriend3337You misunderstood the "tutorial" it seems. Yuzu DOESN'T have a tutorial for piracy. Their tutorial is for dumping your own games. Creating copies and backups of software you own is absolutely legal and has been defended successfully multiple times in court. Yuzu is not advocating or teaching piracy in any way. Dumping your own owned games isn't piracy.

[@patrickcarpenter6258]

Because of this move, I just redownloaded all of the Nintendo emulators and all ROMs just in case.

[@cube2fox]

This is like buying lots of guns when someone argues they are dangerous and should be banned.

[@seiki4519]

@@cube2fox No, this is like buying some water because nestle wants to ban all other water brands

[@okie9025]

@@cube2fox piracy has never killed anyone. It might hurt the feelings of scum like Nintendo and Adobe, which is actually a good thing.

[@lilpisser124]

@@lasue7244 9/10 of those games are no longer purchasable from nintendo so its not as bad as you think

[@jadix120]

they have enough money

[@ShinSheel]

My fav theory was that Nintendo learned very bad lesson when they won legal battle on Donkey Kong, when they argued "King Kong imagery is used so broadly in popular culture it's not real IP anymore" and won Since that, they close every hole for the same happening to them

[@AchedSphinx]

yeah, that theory is pretty interesting since almost all of nintendo's value comes from their IP. and losing those IP means nintendo's back to running love hotels.

[@ricktheweeb5382]

@@AchedSphinx actually it was card decks then the love hotels then the toys then video games

[@bweaddss]

⁠@@ricktheweeb5382doesnt matter, love hotels better than cards!!!

[@ogkanyeeast]

Overbearing companies that abuse their power in America: 😡 Overbearing companies that abuse their power in Japan: 😍

[@enzomercier2789]

What do you mean? American companies got as much if not more brainless shills, just look at Apple

[@TheEmolano]

Japan is distopic af but hey cute girls with big eyes

[@smaller_cathedrals]

magine ... just imagine people would justifiably hate on Nintendo as much as they unjustifiably hate on Ubisoft, Blizzard or EA. Nothing, absolutely nothing these western studios have done to gaming compares to the beyond fucked up atrocities Nintendo has committed to the community. Absolutely insane. God, how I hate this company.

[@amandahugankiss4110]

..just defaulted on his first payment. Lost my shit. Love that guy.

[@pueraeternus.]

id do the same LOL over my dead body

[@MikoSciencia]

What're they gonna do? Sue him?

[@nalgene247]

Lock him up!

[@chbrules]

@@MikoSciencia Technically they can contract the sheriff to seize his property to sell. They can also get a court order to seize bank funds and even possibly garnish wages.

[@arslanrasit]

What does defaulting mean?

[@eternal1469]

Nintendo doesn't really have any case here. Yuzu doesn't distribute decryption keys that enable the use of Nintendo Switch software. Those files need to be acquired from a legitimate Nintendo Switch. Unless there's an official build floating around that completely bypasses this requirement, Nintendo doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[@hamadaelwarky3640]

Thank god

[@ender0998]

Wasn't the issue with yuzus guide on how to get those decryption keys and how to dump rom files?

[@AlbertoTuber]

If nintendo is suing them now, then they definitely feel like they have a case, they wouldn't do this and waste time and money if they didn't or they would have done it years ago. "One of Nintendo’s arguments is that Yuzu’s website specifically includes advice on how to circumvent the encryption key issue. Yuzu is making almost 40k a month off their patreon of which they sell beta builds of their emulator. Other emulators do not do this. The money they are making via this saw a direct increase around the time Tears of the Kingdom leaked online before its launch date. Meaning people were paying for a newer build of Yuzu to emulate Tears of the Kingdom, which is potentially profiting from piracy which is not allowed"

[@Yoshidzo]

@@AlbertoTuber you clearly missed the whole video

[@frizzykid100]

Yeah but I'm P sure the decryption key argument was what nintendo used to get Gary Bowser with SXOS which was a mod chip company for switches. SXOS also didn't provide those decryption keys but the argument didn't hold much weight because the chips were still capable of using those keys to decrypt the gamebackups which Yuzu also does.

[@lesto12321]

little addendum: is generally legal, at least in EU, to bypass protection to make "personal backup copy". This include dumping AND bypassing anything that would prevent your copy to function properly. Because of that, hacking console to be able to run personal copy is legit not only personally, but also commercially. Of course guarantee is void :)

[@Bozebo]

Exactly. Commenter farther up said the EU is the only place you can't do this (or indeed just normal reverse engineering they were referring to) when infact the opposite is the case xD

[@zekiz774]

It depends. In Germany it's illegal.

[@franzgucktyoutube]

@@zekiz774 Yes, that is a common misconception. Private copies are only legal in the EU if those copies are obtained in a legal way so without circumventing protection. If you buy a blu-ray movie with copy protection and use software to rip it, that copy is illegal, even if you made it as a backup for yourself. The weird theory is that such a law exists because it actually negates a consumer's right of personal copy. The law needs to change. 30 years ago I could record TV movies and episodes with a VCR, due to lobbyism und law changes I cannot do that anymore despite the fact that technologies have advanced so much.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

@@zekiz774 source?

[@zekiz774]

@@DarkOmegaMK2 §95a UrhG

[@sonkez6421]

man I'm still reeling from Google's groundbreaking new signup page

[@carlosmuro444]

Name a better duo than Nintendo and unfair lawsuits

[@borreLore]

I’ll never forget when they sued a guy called Bowser

[@MrNobody851]

Disney and unfair lawsuits 💀

[@PPablinho]

Rockstar Games and not giving a crap about their community

[@TechnicalAkshay]

why do u have 444 in your name? i m tired of this i m seeing 444 on internet since 5 to 6 years comments likes and youtube views even now names of accounts? 444 is everywhere if you are angel tell me what do i do? do u have any message from angels? for me?

[@whyherro5077]

Thing is the Yuzu discord has been leaking games early

[@scresat]

Streisand Effect here we go

[@rainawareness1495]

Who?

[@blubglub]

@@rainawareness1495"The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead backfires by increasing public awareness of the information. The effect is named for American singer and actress Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress a photographer's publication of a photograph showing her clifftop residence in Malibu, California, taken to document coastal erosion in California, inadvertently drew far greater attention to the previously obscure photograph." quoted from wikipedia tl;dr: if you hide something, people will notice

[@joeysmit4644]

@@rainawareness1495 The harder you try to suppress information, the faster it will spread.

[@patrickhydar1225]

@@rainawareness1495 who fucking knows

[@justsomeonepassingby3838]

Imagine being in the latest news on fireship as the "wrong" side. The next yuzu devs will hide their identity and receive donations in XMR.

[@WolfPhoenix0]

This is the very first time I've ever seen Fireship covering anything related to video games. Also, Steam Deck is a legendary gaming system for emulators.

[@OzzyTheGiant]

Yep. Congrats Nintendo, you actually put out a piece of hardware that many competitors want to copy. You should instead consider focusing on improving this tech rather than going after pirates (not that I condone them, but we have bigger fish to fry).

[@Sarfarazzamani]

He covered several game engines before like Unity, Unreal and Godot

[@lynic-0091]

Do all emulators work on Steam Deck? I thought you could only play games from Steam on it :o

[@0ldfashi0ned]

It's insane how a company that can easily win the hearts and minds of gamers with a few strategically planned goodwill gestures is consistently destroying its reputation by being petty, hostile and litigious without achieving anything of value.

[@user-qb1ob3fb1m]

They have absolutely no goodwill to speak of... Not after the joycon situation.

[@l0remipsum991]

cant remember when they won the "hearts and minds" to start with

[@KaoruSugimura]

Unfortunately, this will have no effect on the 'fans' of Nintendo which worship what they do. Many will never see it and those that do won't care in any immediate sense. Maybe when they get older and finally realize how fucked this is but even that's questionable. The Internet has taught me to question the intellectual capabilities of people and their foresight or lack thereof.

[@DouglasNeves]

the fun thing about yuzu is that the experience of playing on PC, at 1080p 60fps, with a good controller, is better than playing in the original console with an original controller.

[@techkidwhiz]

You can even play in 4k on PC. Sooo much better than on switch

[@cube2fox]

That doesn't justify piracy. Switch emulation is mainly used for piracy.

[@stanb1455]

@@cube2fox those boots better taste good

[@MoonShadeStuff]

Isn’t the point of a switch that it’s portable? I don’t know but for me it wouldn’t be a win if I could say „wow instead of playing this handheld game in handheld I’m sitting in front of my PC“… kinda defeats the purpose. If I want that I’d just buy the game on PC.

[@nicksjacku9750]

100% correct

[@aldelaro]

Correction: dolphin was not served a dmca and not from nintendo. Valve got C&D (not dmca, that's not a lawsuit here) because valve reached out to them and they replied with it. THEN valve complied and took dolphin down....and that was the end of it.

[@kenshn22828]

Valve didn't want any smoke with the Nintendo legal assassins

[@Daniel15au]

Wasn't Dolphin also served a DMCA notice for the encryption key?

[@arhturcosta4066]

@@kenshn22828 in nether case, it feel that dolphin being deplaformed from steam sound like as if napoleon Bonaparte was exile to the island after his defeat on battle of Waterloo... Oh, wait.

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

They didn’t even get a C&D Nintendo just mentioned to Valve the DMCA when Valve contacted them about Dolphin.

[@GSBarlev]

​@@kenshn22828Valve knows how closely they can toe the line, given the Steam Deck promotional video that featured Yuzu's logo in the launcher.

[@richardfernandespereira1424]

there was a similar case in the manga/manhwa world recently: a shitty manhwa publisher threatened an open source manga reader called Tachyomi with a lawsuit for piracy. The thing is, Tachyomi doesn't actually host/give access to pirated content, it's just a reader app that allows for user-made extensions and THESE extensions can give access to piracy websites. That's like suing google for showing piracy websites in search results. You would think this is silly and would get nowhere, but you would be wrong, the Tachyomi devs caved in for some reason and abandoned the project (it's still up but won't get any updates), they probably got threatened. A number of similar projects and forks appeared but it sucks that the apps/extensions got fragmented like that.

[@lucamibel]

u can't really fight these corporations in terms of lawyers fees so it's easier to just reach an agreement like yuzu devs did

[@frikimanhd4087]

In Spain (and i think in all of europe) you have the legal right of make copies for personal use of media you buy, so i legaly can make copies of a nintendo game if i want, in fact, in Spain you pay a little tax because the government and manufacturers already assume you're going to store copyrighted stuff in there

[@boscodomingo]

Wait for real? What's the name of said tax? (fellow Spaniard here too btw, keeping it in English so others can follow the conversation)

[@Gramini]

@@boscodomingo In German it's called "Pauschalabgabe", which _loosely_ translates into something like "flat rate tax".

[@socram8888]

@@boscodomingoCánon digital, if you wanna look for it.

[@michazawadzki3813]

We also have it in Poland, it's called "opłata reprograficzna" which can be translated as "digital reproduction charge". It's funny, because technically it's not a tax -- it goes to select few art-related organizations that lobbied for the law, rather than to the government. But it's basically a tax which manufacturers of media devices are legally required to pay.

[@enolastraight4829]

@@michazawadzki3813 There is a similar tax in Russia (back when it was introduced it affected DVDs and CDs). Not sure how it works right now though.

[@ashu3403]

All I see is Yuzu getting free publicity 😂

[@dfcx1]

Marketing? It's a free program.

[@absentchronicler9063]

@@dfcx1 what does it have anything to do with marketing lol

[@redsdead]

@@dfcx1it's free, but they have a patreon

[@skejeton]

@@dfcx1you can market a free program too...

[@haootic]

@ with a patreon that makes $30k a month? do u think fireships video is not going to contribute to that number?

[@LuizFernandoSC]

This video was awesome, you explained what is happening to Yuzu team, plus what nintendo tried with dolphin, game genie... in just 4 minutes.

[@moister3727]

Thanks for the links, been looking for a reliable page for a long time

[@elemeno0pee]

Yuzu looks pretty cool. Thanks for the heads up, Nintendo!

[@KatCat18]

Nintendo: Wait you guys can have 60fps and 4k?

[@advmx3]

For anyone wanting updates: Yuzu will pay 2.4 Million to Nintendo to settle the Lawsuit, that was a decision made by both parties (That's what I could find online). Someone said to me that Yuzu added a copy of Tears of the Kingdom, to their Patreon, if that's true, then that would explain why Yuzu went to pay for damages. Being able to make Millions out of an emulation device is crazy though,I won't lie,. Another update: I found out that yuzu had code for description of encrypted data by Nintendo games built in. They also announced an online mode and put that under paywall and then took down under the risk of lawsuit. They also have a stash of leaked games on gdrive they would use to download the games to make the emulator compatible before release meaning they never paid for games. And finally they added an update on yuzu a month before tears of the kingdom that would make it impossible for the emulator to run tears of the kingdom before the release because they were already emulating it before the game was released. Again there's so much wrong it's no wonder Nintendo won this and even destroyed citra too. The team managed to fuck their other emulator just to avoid paying a bigger bill to Nintendo.

[@renokurnia1285]

they don't the patch for ToTK is done by the community, this patch is also being added to their pre-release version, and this pre-release version is locked behind patreon, bad move from them, they should wait to merge the patch for the ToTK a month or so after ToTK release

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

what an american way to think "Being able to make Millions out of an emulation device is crazy though,I won't lie,." nothing but jealousy from you people

[@Manganization]

Yuzu never circumvented copies of Tears of the Kingdom, its mods, or made anyone pay for online. Online is P2P. Yuzu always had the release protection since it they've known of leaking Switch games pre-release. The only thing patreon got you was the ability to be a guinea pig for unstable builds.

[@aboodsaad8790]

@@MGrey-qb5xz they shouldn't make something that they stole paywall

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@aboodsaad8790 stole what?

[@favianeduardo4236]

I second that, legalpdf be working like crazy.

[@teamgartz-motorsports6881]

Thanks for making a tutorial of not what to do to emulate switch. I promise I will use this information to no do anything that Nintendo would be upset and want to sue me.

[@airixxxx]

Emulation is such a wonderful thing. Finding games that you played when you were a child, not only console but arcade games that don't exist anymore is something that transports you to that time in your life.

[@legrandarkan]

yeah... the only legal and official emulators Nintendo provide only offer a dozen games on each console...

[@shallmow]

Ryujinx: "Damn, glad I'm not that guy"

[@banzai6752]

LMAO

[@livvy94]

This is really concisely explained, great job

[@ykhi]

whenever I see u star something on github I know a video is coming... great stuff

[@AniketSingh-hr8mi]

Ladies and Gentlemen, remember, it is always morally correct to pirate from EA, Nintendo and Adobe

[@andreitgk4748]

or almost any company that's not an indie studio

[@alptugraakan7490]

@@andreitgk4748 or any company that hates his fans(im not talking to you sega,mdhr and xbox

[@shadownight9956]

​@alptugraakan7490 there is no way SEGA is not included They shit on a lot of titles they bought biggest example is total war series they could have done so much more if sega did not greed the fuck out of these games

[@StraightcheD]

Sounds like turning an emu into a business makes it certain that Nintendo will come after you.

[@sapphicjade6375]

dead internet theory

[@capitandonculo]

awww man fireship uploaded, its corporate beef, and also about yuzu? this gonna be good

[@meltygear5955]

4:11 I genuinely expected Thor's picture (Piratesoftware).

[@qaw392]

Dude , same here

[@DrAnimePhD]

The money Nintendo spent filing this lawsuit could've been spent porting their games to PC instead, which they clearly know we want that since they claim over one million copies of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom were emulated on Yuzu

[@NihongoWakannai]

They want to keep games only on the switch so they can force people to buy their bad console to play them.

[@groghnash]

the problem is that they want you to buy a switch. and they rather have more people buying a switch and then some games, instead of slightly more people that only buying the games and no switch. And the games also dont hold up on other consoles/PC, only a few get pirated because of the IP Zelda/Pokemon for example.

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

@@groghnash Nintendo is losing money with every Switch built and sold. All those losses would be negated by selling PC ports with no cost of any physical items.

[@DrAnimePhD]

@@groghnash Sony wants people to buy PS5s and they still do PC releases, and have had great success with them. Hell it was thanks to the PC release of Helldivers 2 that has made it the popular multiplayer phenomenon it is now. Consoles and PCs are separate markets as those who primarily play on PC don’t have any intention of ever buying a console, especially in regions where it’s more expensive to own a console than a gaming PC like Brazil or Eastern Europe. Doing PC releases is obvious, and Nintendo wouldn’t even need to do day in date releases. They can limit releases to older titles so those who don’t want to wait would be more incentivized to get a Switch, just like Sony does with their PC strategy

[@joseph3662]

@@DrAnimePhDand look at the recent news. Sony did not reach their target sales, xbox bleeding and plans to port all their exclusives. I’m not defending Nintendo, but it’s a bad business move for them. Why take a large hit from pc releases, when they can solely profit from their hardware.

[@pawtter_ink]

Oh my, emulation? Who would do such a thing? 😮 Thanks for telling us the websites so we can stay away from it 😊

[@cps1247]

gonna emulate wii today so you can cry more

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

Thank you for making this video :D, I didn't know I had to jailbreak a Nintendo switch to run the emulator

[@greenbloxgamer9786]

legally…

[@sreea2365]

You can run it without even having a Switch, it's just that it becomes not so legal then.

[@F.M671]

@@sreea2365 Getting them keys is simpler the eyepatch way tho. Even if you own a switch, for conveniance's sake just do it that way lol

[@carlstanford7607]

Here’s a comment for the algorithm. Keep up the great work buddy

[@great2831]

Man i didn't want to sail the seven seas for Nintendo Games, but this conviced me to start my adventure.

[@west2267]

Can I be your first mate?

[@JustinObi54]

Already started last year, room on the ship for one more?

[@enescustovic1883]

watch out for the red sea pirates when you go

[@F.M671]

Remember to be careful when sailing the high seas ! Maps compiled by previous adventurers will be of use ! *wink* reddit *wink*

[@aamiriqbal2247]

Aye aye capin

[@haltarys]

The best way for Nintendo to stop people from pirating their games would be to make them widely available again at low cost and not exclusive to a single hardware platform

[@jmtradbr]

Thank you, this video was very informative.

[@konignickerchen7265]

Thanks for the heads up, now I'll have to make sure not to accidentally do any of that.

[@ScholarSaanvi]

What a coincidence! I just downloaded yuzu and had arranged myself some firmware and keys to play Pokemon SV just yesterday.

[@oriongear2499]

Based.

[@JarkkoHelenius]

I used to avoid piracy like the plague, but now I view it not only as acceptable, but as good and the right thing to do. Unless its a tiny company small indie game, never gives these corporations your money.

[@Patrick-tw7nr]

They picked a fight and won a fight quicker than Prime Mike Tyson fight lol

[@rand0mtv660]

What's I always think is funny in pirating cases is when company says "oh people pirated 1 million copies, that means we lost 1 million sales" which implies all of those that pirated would actually buy it.

[@patrickcarpenter6258]

The humanity! Pirating a switch game! Someone stop them!

[@s1nistr433]

Piracy is legal as long as it's not an indie game

[@lilpisser124]

@@s1nistr433 not exactly but its still a good principle

[@Yolwoocle]

​@@s1nistr433 I think you meant 'moral', but yeah

[@soiree7833]

Thank god I pirated brilliant diamond and shining pearl instead of buying a switch and the games. I got to learn how terrible they were completely free of charge!!!!

[@_kitaes_]

neither is illegal, i think you meant moral@@s1nistr433

[@kpheine]

I wish there was a site you could upload your switch dumps for backup in case something happened to your main computer.

[@LiEnby]

any upload site???

[@fatusopp4739]

google drive? onedrive? mega? any file storing website would work just fine

[@miciagaming7323]

like nintendo airstriking your pc for pirating a game worth 60 whole pounds 😲😲😲😲😲

[@johnmarkbautista1933]

you see here,when the whole community goes up against a big name or company, it isnt a conflict no more, but a voice of freedom for the good of many.

[@user-md7er6xe2z]

I Agree.

[@randerins]

Ironically, never thought I'd heard about this topic on this channel. I'm glad he did. This is way bigger than it seems and it's going to make history in the industry. Emulation never got into such beef before

[@wolfwoof2000]

I didn't know about yuzu, imma try it thanks !

[@vidal9747]

Nintendo needs to be slapped with a HUGE frivolous lawsuit fine!

[@jhonnythunder1880]

😂😂😂

[@willi1978]

people not giving them money would hurt more

[@Bullminator]

@@willi1978 PALWORLD

[@dustytux]

Unfortunately, the opposite happened.

[@a-lien]

There's a frame during which the baby is visible. Since KZbin has frame stepping key commands I think it would be a good idea to fix that by adding a new blur in the youtube video editor

[@ParodieHecker-mobile]

What baby?

[@VashTown]

Hehe, pirating isn't stealing! Nintendo: Ok, I will pirate $2M and a bunch of assets from the Yuzu devs. NOOOOO, NOT LIKE THAT!

[@AlphaNeon]

That wouldn't be piracy. That's just stealing. Piracy is making a copy. You can't copy 2 million dollars from someone

[@VashTown]

@@AlphaNeon Sure it is. Nintendo just Ctrl+C the Yuzu bank account, then after they verify the checksums they Shift+Delete.

[@e7193]

brain rot

[@EpiX0R]

Reading on Lemmy already shows multiple people have downloaded all related Yuzu source code and Yuzu Early Access source code and reuploaded anonymously on multiple sites. Nintendo might be able to halt Yuzu development but not destroy the software, that will stay around.

[@larryfoulke1596]

Well that how Tachiyomi too isn't it?the main app maybe discontinued,but the fork?aniyomi, TachiyomiSY they still there Heck even Mihon become the "parent" after Tachiyomi gone

[@dustytux]

The official repositories have been taken down.

[@EpiX0R]

@@dustytux luckily they got forked and downloaded before that happened :)

[@fixxiehartmann5227]

Yuzu is just an emulator....the roms are something else

[@chiperpol]

Amazing, short and informative, love this video

[@Seshua87]

This is just like before all the streaming services. Tons of people used to Pirate movies/shows/music. But now that there is Netflix/Hulu/Spotify etc less people pirate that content. Point is, if Nintendo would make their games available on other platforms such as Windows, Mac, and/or Linux then less people would pirate their IPs.

[@Syko7s]

Can't steal what can't be owned

[@MrCool-lo3ls]

Most video game companies nowadays produce bloated trash that isn't even worth pirating. Nintendo games however have such great quality that I want to like the company, but their predatory behavior towards their fans just doesn't let me like them. Its stuff like AM2R, the covid melee turnament, the youtube nintendo partner program, their fight against emulation and game preservation and so much more stuff that absolutely destroys their image. I can't help but hate them more than all other video game companies out there.

[@arhturcosta4066]

Guess we can agree that Nintendo has a one weakness of business in the style of Achille's Heel. In which you just described, my boy.

[@danvilela]

Mann when they shut down chrono trigger fan version was really sad

[@zomerzon4484]

Great video! Does anyone know where i can find the visual that is used in the outro at 4:22?

[@jabrowski_]

Great editing bro

[@Yipper64]

1:30 I find it funny how the NES classic literally has meta data that shows the roms where downloaded off one of said websites. "Thanks for the roms now DIE."

[@keithmiller3770]

Fireship: "They threatened open-source, and I took that personally."

[@zekiz774]

Nintendo has always been like this

[@discoRyne]

Thank you and bless for referencing Grandma's Boy.

[@AchwaqKhalid]

1:10 he literally put the site out there and told us to not go there... This dude is a genius 🤣🤣🤣

[@dampfwatze]

Good to know that there is actually a emulator for the switch! Now that I know, I might try it out!

[@groghnash]

there are multiple

[@bracedgod4505]

Emulators destroy console sales. That’s why they sold 100M+ Switches and DSes.

[@AbderrahmanFodili]

yuzu reminds me of that scene from the movie war lord where he detaches the gun from the helicopter at the last minute and then claims he sells them separately

[@simi7272]

Emulator news from someone other than Mr.Sujano is something I have never seen in my live!

[@lucmaluco100]

I don't care the slightest who is wrong or right legally, piracy is awesome and fuck nintendo

[@HoNow222]

if buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing!

[@user-md7er6xe2z]

Based

[@upsetchicken7214]

damn who gave this 11yo a smartphone?

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

Bought the original nintedo for one game (Nobunga's Ambition) and played it with friends for years. Added romance of the three kingdoms, another great Koei game. Never bought another nintendo product or game ever again.

[@BaccarWozat]

2:40 Nice use of Ernie Kovacs!

[@fufidae]

Remember kids! Pirating Nintendo games IS ALWAYS ETHICAL AND MORAL (really, pirating anything that comes from big corporations is ok)

[@callofbrokendreams]

Dont fcking spout nonsense here and there. Pirating game isnt ok. The emulation teams are the hero of people around 3rd world country and poor for how they provide us to play our favorite games cause we either cant buy the system or games are too expensive for us. Literally many places nintendo has no distributor, $60 for a game is an entire month salary for many people till this day, emulator are thereby a hero for us. Then people like you go on spouting pirate the games loudly. While I think it is true that most of the big AAA games are incomplete scams filled with bugs that makes a game unplayable and that spending money on them isnt worth it cause how bad employees are treated and with layoffs here and there without a reason while the gaming market is rising. But game developer like nintendo are great, actually deliver what most expect. The games arent radically changed for sake of change or bullshit political map. This time nintendo sueing yuzu is over what seems to be absurd still got some strong cases of how yuzu dev teams boldly stating of pirating tears of kingdom in their official discord and how yuzu was working ahead of release for a smooth running of totk. The nintendo was lurking all over discord and media collecting evidence since long. And when they see something like this then they become more dedicated on stopping project like this. In most of the people of 3rd world country they dont even enjoy pirating with all that risk of virus scummy ad filled links slow speed of download and risk of account getting hacked similarly games have to be played at least settings with 15 to 20 fps. The proudest moments in our mind is going rightfully to buy an actual game hardware and actual good games without worry. At this point you arent actually not even buying the games to buy them but more like donations where those that can pay will pay to support a creator. Most of other companies especially western company are kinda scummy how they are filled woth false promises of a huge games, over the top budgets hiring employees here and there then later scrapping game laying the employees with no care pr giving out half ass game. Well nintendo as a game devs arent that bad to employees in comparision, they respect their devs thats why the first mario game still has spirit of the latest. So plz remember for majority of us piracy isnt something glorious but a necessity to enjoy our beloved games. And we would pay every single cent for the game if they are worth it if we could.

[@Clinkety]

That's kinda stupid.

[@Greninja_The_G]

unethical and immoral*

[@marcoalves9029]

@@Clinkety wym you think expecting someone to keep making great games for free because nobody would be buying them is stupid? /j

[@pkmnan00bis]

0:56 - *More You Know:* Nintendo also sued Blockbuster for renting games. They also lost that lawsuit. Not willing to take the L, Nintendo sued Blockbuster again for ... providing copies of their game manuals. Blockbuster decided to settle instead of going to court again since they had the money to pay a 3rd Party to make their own Guides and Manuals back then. So they were bent over before. By Blockbuster of all companies.

[@Lizuma]

I never knew! When I was little my parents rented games for me from Blockbuster, which was how I discovered Super Mario Galaxy 2. We also rented Mario Sports Mix and Kirby Mass Attack. I don’t remember manuals being included in the game cases, but that’s a ridiculous thing for Nintendo to go after.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

"Facilitate" means to make easier, so for them to say it facilitate piracy doesn't make sense - not just because the emulator doesn't provide any way to get games on its own, but also because by the time you open it to play, you have a game - and thus, if you downloaded a game instead of dumping it from a legal copy, the piracy **has already happened.**

[@gr.4380]

I'm so proud of you fireship, you're staying strong and off your AI addiction for 2 videos now!

[@tyleryoung4890]

Click baited in, but not disappointed. Straight to the point, nice video

[@Xpressd]

Hilarious how I just told somebody today you could not play switch games on the new handheld, I guess I'll have to update homeboy 🕹

[@rgmoses2189]

We have lost 2 beloved friends who died before the war began so others wouldn't have to die. Rest un peace Yuzu and Citra, you made my childhood dreams a reality ❤️ ✨️

[@ThompterSHunson]

You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.

[@DwayneRidgwayOfficial]

Based on their main argument that Yuzu was used to pirate Tears of the Kingdom, it sounds like they actually just need to perform the most intensive digital scraping and search for the few guys who got it a week early and dumped the game files and sue them instead. Not that I want that to happen, because this whole thing is stupid, but it'd make more sense legally than suing Yuzu.

[@Magnos]

Also it took quite a while to PROPERLY play TOTK on Yuzu. Many people were simply playing the pirated/leaked rom on a hacked switch.

[@NihongoWakannai]

​@@Magnos Yeah, yuzu SPECIFICALLY stated that they refused to update it at all to be able to work properly with TotK until they got a legal dump of the game on release.

[@groghnash]

@@Magnos i played it in Ryujinx pre release, worked just fine except for the first cutscene where i had to get creative. you need a decent machine tho

[@LiEnby]

​@@Magnosnintendo even mentions in their own claim that yuzu banned discussion of TOTK in yuzu and didnt respond to people asking how to make it work .

[@mdrdprtcl]

This is thorough and accurate, but still somehow succinct! Fantastic job!

[@brutal3369]

Nintendo also once took down my reverse engineering tool because a person used it to decompile one of thier 40 years old game. But luckily I got my tool back

[@bobbytaraantino]

I vividly remember those TOTK days. The reddit community of yuzu(the original that got hammered) was one of the best and most fun community ever existed in reddit.

[@m4c1el]

never thought i'd see fireship talk about yuzu in my entire life

[@garf02]

Wrong, The crux of Nintendo case is that the Prod.key required to decrypt the games are also encrypted. So to get those you 1st gave to break DMCA, Get the keys, Dump them and add them to Yuzu. Said keys are also Nintendo proprietary code.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

The prod keys are also dumped from the console. They're just access keys in plaintext, nothing clever about them. Putting the prod.keys into the emulator environnement simply allows the emu to do the same as the original hardware (arguably more efficiently). Because the game ROMs aren't stored as decrypted through Yuzu, they haven't broken any aspect of Nintendo "protection" - they've used Nintendo's keys in Nintendo's intended manner and only in a way that affects specific games.

[@tbird81]

Wrong. No one reads anything after you pronounce "wrong" as a sentence like Richard Stallman with Tourette's.

[@houlej19]

I’m downloading Yuzu now. Thanks 🙏 Buying isn't owning anymore so even though I got the console, it’s more about the message

[@daniladergachev]

thank you for telling us what not to do

[@soukuw9146]

This was a good channel to subscribe. Bros got the good zingers.

[@Tony78432]

I use emulators for retro games mainly, but I definitely think it’s muddy waters when you’re treading on their current Gen system and making those games accessible on emulators

[@4RILDIGITAL]

As someone who grew up with Nintendo, it's disappointing to see them crushing enthusiasts like this. The Yuzu team aren't pirates, they're innovators! It's high time Nintendo's legal team focuses more on actual piracy sites instead of vilifying open-source projects.

[@tomasdanielnieto5398]

Not much to worry about Yuzu as it's open source. They can take the original group behind it, but that's just a name. The code itself can't be realistically erased and prohibited from distribution. Another group will just take over it (regardless if it's the same people or not). What is worrying is setting a precedent for emulation, piracy, and companies power