Nio stock. SHORTING. Is this a key indicator that shorts are losing interest in the stock?

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[@michaeln.8993]

I have 12,000 shares with an average of $20.00 now after dollar cost averaging. Do I believe Nio will be $20.00 again? Yes. This year? I dont know. Patiently waiting.

[@markshepperson3603]

2,650 at average 9. Come on.

[@marcusfleuti2672]

I think NIO will be one of the biggest EV companies in the world until 2030. I don't care about shorts. At one point there won't be any shorts. Onvo is amazing and the new Firefly too. Great products plus the best charging network in the world.

[@TheOddInvestor]

Totally agree

[@anthonyheak3479]

There might be no NIO by 2030 😂

[@marcusfleuti2672]

@@anthonyheak3479 that's why I started my post with "I think". The thoughts are based on common knowledge about NIOs strategy, product lineup, power infrastructure etc. - nobody knows what the future will bring. But as I was saying back in 2007 that NOKIA will be doomed if they do not immediately create a similar product like the iPhone 1, I am estimating today that many other (globally acting) car manufacturers will be doomed if they cannot build competing products very soon. Even with Tesla I am having my doubts at the moment. They are lacking behind in almost every field and can no longer compete with lower pricings. Tesla is primarily a "Model Y" company and the Model Y is outdated. I really hope for Tesla that they will bring an updated version very soon because the Y-Sales will drop starting now on massive scale. Onvo and other Chinese Model-Y competitors (XPENG, BYD) will demolish the Y-Sales bei 50% and more in the next 3-5 months. With NIO and Onvo customers even gain access to an even better charging infrastructure than the one from Tesla - which was the key selling point up until now (cheap Model Y car with great power infrastrcuture). Onvo does all that but better and cheaper.

[@ericslacey]

The Nio fundamental they feel safe about shorting is net profit. Nio could address this if they were concerned, however because their balance sheet is strong, and because Nio is still investing in expansion, this is going to be the reality for a while. However, Nio revenue growth will hopefully start to improve the net profit this year. We need to wait for the March Q4 call. I agree that shorting is actually an opportunity to buy in the first half of 2025. By the end of 2025 we should theoretically see signs of profitability. Let them short the stock. Its not going to last. Wow... your observation on margin investing is a good one. Margin investing is a very bad idea. Why? Because the US national debt is putting the entire world economy at risk. We should all be paying off our debt. This year Ive begun 4x principle payments on my mortgage. When the world goes to shit... I want to be near zero debt. Part of this is due to my age... turning 56. However we should encourage young people to trade wisely and try to live life debt free. If you are young, you have time. The market comes with risk built in. Margin investing is wreckless behavior IMHO.

[@TheOddInvestor]

These are good comments. Thanks for your feedback

[@tm4s426]

This needs to end, everyone’s aware at this point

[@nooneop]

Shorting at today's prices is suicidal as Nio is practically doubling its revenue just this quarter. Nio is on the road to profitability by the middle of this year.

[@RickSide-g5f]

Thank You Mr Odd, I Feel I would like to think of myself as a Sponge even if I feel I understand something and I can get a little more understanding its worth just being a Sponge to listen, knowledge is king to me. I always look and listen to your video's because my take is you are teacher at Heart which is a very admirable Quality in a person.

[@TheOddInvestor]

You are welcome. Thank you for the nice words. I am glad you find the videos informative.

[@peterbarker639]

My platform asked if I wanted to earn interest by lending my shares. I said No.

[@TheOddInvestor]

Mine, they do it without asking

[@stephanebort116]

@@TheOddInvestorthey can't do that if it's not a margin account!

[@g3tdinero]

What platform? I’ve never heard of this. I use Fidelity.

[@justinternet1345]

@@g3tdinero interactive brokers for example. its something like 3-5 % per year. if you just sit on the stock why not earn the extra cash. (besides providing the "fuel" for short sellers in a simplyfied way)

[@peterklausner9727]

Put in a sell order for all of your shares for $100.. For the maximum time frame allowed.. This order makes your shares ineligible for most brokerages.

[@juanjoselopez-viotasegura699]

Thanks, Ata.

[@joeforika]

I totally understand what you are saying, they knew that they are not alone shorting the stock, and they felt safe because of their numbers and size. They won big no doubt, they successfully brought us down to our knees.

[@laszlokarsai5150]

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought shorting means if I short Nio here at 4:60 I will make money 💰 as it goes farther down. but Nio has been trading between $5 and $4 for over six months now. With a few push upward and a few pull back lower. I understand shorting Nio at the top on 1/6 and 2/3/21 it was a double top. Plenty of money to gain by shorting it. But now with all the great news coming from Nio how much money they will make shorting it? I think they will need to pump Nio up again to make money shorting is back the way down! No???

[@UrbanGuitarLegend]

Agreed

[@globtrotter3497]

I Agrée too long shorting it s not a choose it s a an obligation because the retails didn't sell their stocks. the only way for shorts to save their position is that the stock goes to 0 to bankruptcy that what we saw some times some articles pushing without any raisons to the bankruptcy . I agree also the stock will exponentially goes up

[@Drgnrt]

Based on your more recent videos I understand that you'd be happier if NIO was back to ATH+, but if the company succeeds and becomes huge in the future, does it matter from long term perspective for a regular investor? Personally I'm happily getting more shares for $4-5 at the moment. Recent CATL accouncements about them entering the battery swap business suggest the business model is here to stay and the recent estimates for NIO by Deutsche Bank for 2025 are quite bullish. As you say, I hope the stock will become more and more difficult to short, but the question is, should we be concerned or is it kind of a miracle.

[@doublewide6]

Hello Odd investor, I would be curious of how much risk there is in this stock being Chinese? I have already made my large position larger by averaging down, so I feel like Nio has all the geopolitical risk that a stock could possibly have. I love the company, but don't know if it is safe to hold Nio long term (10 plus years). I'd be curious of your views on this topic and I believe your subscribers would be interested in your opinion as well. Thank you.

[@ericslacey]

In my opinion, China is the best possible home for an EV pure play company. Nio is currently operating mostly independent of any US influence. I can't think of a viable threat where US Govt policy could largely effect NIO. China is 100% committed to a vision that supports EV manufacturing and the market is large enough to help them establish themselves in this large local market, which is why the BAAS investment there is so large. Nio also is 20%+ owned by Abu Dahbi govt via a govt sponsored investment firm where the UAE should be a friendly market for the Nio Premium Brand. I would suggest reading the latest Morning Star Report.

[@sennaha]

Riak? How many mega US companies rely on the Chinese market?

[@srkc4151]

NIO will short squeeze in 14 days time

[@user-lz3lr6jj5w]

why? what is the target?

[@franhannon4689]

@@srkc4151 not with 10% short float, needs to be up over 20%

[@jarekm.8386]

I wonder if this is the time NIO will show the strength? I believe that management is so determined to push forward both on swap stations and deliveries. If this is not the time where the stock should show some progress than I don't know what to say, so many years of depression... I think that most of the retail investors have not sold their holdings and this is the most frustrating thing for all those institutions.

[@TheOddInvestor]

Totally true

[@BenG-r2k]

The CEO has made it clear. The spending is not going to stop as far as the horizon stretches. They will have to grow organically and stem the massive annual losses and if they can do that the share price will move up. If there were no shortselling allowed and true price discovery was in play I don’t think this share price is worth much more than it is today given that book value has been pounded all the way down to $.77 per share. At some point, they have to show that they are able to monetize all of the spending. unfortunately, it’s going the other way with negative triple digit return on equity every single quarter.

[@PierreSaliba-d3k]

Thank you 🙏 interesting video

[@TheOddInvestor]

You are welcome

[@Kidsolo3]

Nio is just a perfect stock to be shorted currently.... 1. Chinese company 2. Currently unprofitable 3. Tons of share float 4. Huge unwarranted run up in stock price earlier with zero fundamentals This will begin to change this year with huge growth in deliveries and demand 💯👍💯👍

[@TheOddInvestor]

Great points. Totally agree with you.

[@peterbarker639]

@@Kidsolo3 Ali baba profitable yet still shorted sp very low considering it's size.

[@ahmedchowdhury3391]

Nothing only reason Chinese company otherwise 200b market definitely

[@zzzimbazzzimba4460]

Look at KITT, FCUV and NITO. i sold all my Nio and went all in on these squeeze stocks. Blue sky coming

[@michaeldawn442]

Its simple! Investors Short the stocks of companies they believes will not be successful and/or ultimately go into bankruptcy. NIO for a very long time met that criteria...

[@N3verSayN3ver]

Yeah maybe, but the tables are turning, we should thank the shorts for giving us a nice discount on NIO , at 60 dollars i couldnt have bought a couple 1000 shares.

[@zzzimbazzzimba4460]

@@N3verSayN3ver Thats the thing. The new 60dollar for nio will be around 9 dollar. So u can do a 100% profit on nio in 5 years maybe. Better run the Rivian train or KITT train instead. much much more upside.

[@boyasaka]

Shorting should be banned End of

[@goretro5579]

Happy New Year Mr Odd. If you are a long time investor and truly believe in a stock then shorting should not be seen as a problem, People who keep talking about how the price of NIO has been brought down so much need to realise that NIO was massively over priced and was simply caught in a bubble when people had a lot of extra cash from stimulus on the back of the COVID pandemic. We are probably all guilty of getting caught up in the hype, I know I was but I am now using this opportunity, created by the shorts to average down and buy the shares at a very discounted price, it’s all part of the game, long term we will be fine. 💎💎🖐🏻🖐🏻

[@TheOddInvestor]

We are long term investors, but relentless shorting has been going on for few years now

[@anthonyheak3479]

Not really, the stock is still under $5/share!

[@Carl-lb2sd]

They keep shorting. I keep buying. I think Amazon investors had like 20 years to wait..

[@KT-lp1ek]

20 years? Will some investors live that long? C'mon, you know who you are?

[@michaeln.8993]

Financial Journey does some good unbiased reports on Nio. Also points out the shorting of the stock and how undervalued it is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5PdeZiVqs1rfpI Also starting January 2, 2025, managers holding short positions exceeding $10 million or 2.5% of a company’s shares must file Form SHO on a monthly basis. This measure is designed to increase transparency in short selling, helping regulators and investors better detect market manipulation and mitigate systemic risks.

[@KT-lp1ek]

You and many others have been talking about "shorting" topics numerous times already and nothing has changed. At this point, NIO needs to reduce spending like a drunken sailor and should focus less on post purchase experiences ie, NIO houses. NIO needs to focus on producing sold units to match the demand. Also very frustrating when availability doesn't match launch dates, ie 3 months to a year after launch date. Nio should take a page from Tim Cook supply chain manual.

[@kev13nyc]

helloooooooooooo odd investor EY ....

[@shakermaker5382]

In the end of the day NIO has not proven itself in Europe and US. Until they manage to build an image at least in EU nothing will happen to the stock.

[@TheOddInvestor]

Don't agree

[@sennaha]

Luckin didn't prove anything in US or Europe. Chinese market is monumental. US and Europe would be good however.

[@gianpaoloconfortini582]

The target price for this stock is $4. If analysts from the world's largest banks are cautious, there's a reason. The stock is rated between "sell" and "hold". So if you're thinking of getting rich with this stock, know that it's like playing slot machines. There's a very high probability that you could lose a large portion of your investment. VERY HIGH.

[@laszlokarsai5150]

I think you are wrong or you maybe just a shorter. If the Abu Dhabi boys were able to invest $3.2 billion into Neo and sitting as board of directors, with their 20% stake, we can invest in Nio with our $5K!

[@sunnysun5118]

Perfect example of Story of Short's

[@MattBertuleit]

You believe the wolves of Wall Street do you??

[@renethumann4871]

@@MattBertuleitrookie apple was a wolf or so people thought 💭

[@ARMINIUS-d8n]

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