Your final thoughts were spot on. "why are they still making this?" They stop making it. *why don't they make cars like this anymore?"
@calvin-3 жыл бұрын
Yep. That's what always happens.
@GT-RTData93 жыл бұрын
Then when they ask why they no longer make cars like this and automakers bring them back, people complain and trash the new ones.
@KentPhillips3 жыл бұрын
When they said why are they still making this they mean it is out dated. He even said he is looking forward to the 400z. The 370z has pretty much been the same for 10+ years
@K03sport3 жыл бұрын
Because 12 years is a long time for a car to be in production with very few changes from its release. Visually, the car looks the same. The 370 needed a replacement in 2016, but Nissan didn't put much money in to its low volume, low profit sports car. Instead, money went into their higher volume bread and butter cars AND the low volume high profit GT-R which is raced all over the world (except in the US). They (Nissan) also focused on expanding their Infiniti brand and in the end, the (370) Z got the short end of the stick. Sports cars aren't dead, but manufacturers would rather build/sell things that make more money. A US$60k Z car is not a good idea.
@WarriorsPhoto3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this about a lot of Nissan cars. Which is your favorite Nissan?
@MrSchn3ll3 жыл бұрын
The trick with Alcantara is ACTUALLY CLEANING IT. Shocking I know.
@ruskibruski3 жыл бұрын
I hate the feel of alcantara it makes my nerves tingle
@somguy50353 жыл бұрын
@@ruskibruski Same
@80s_Boombox_Collector3 жыл бұрын
Sonax Alcantara Cleaner
@MrSchn3ll3 жыл бұрын
@@80s_Boombox_Collector YUP!
@Adrian-ul3wr3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the age, this is my dream car man. I currently own a 2017 Civic Si Coupe...but man on the occasion I see any 370z, I just can't help but want the car even more.
@Jxc01223 жыл бұрын
It's very attainable, even with low miles. Keep grinding!
@stevenr13543 жыл бұрын
That Si coupe is a future classic too. No more Civic coupes in 2022.
@slowspecv697 ай бұрын
@@stevenr1354meh, I don’t think the 1.5t are ever gonna fetch decent prices
@kaypolplasco6 ай бұрын
I got my 2013 370z for 20k with 74k miles.
@TheBovinated3 жыл бұрын
As a Z owner I agree with a lot of points! Really great review. Thought I'd add my 2 cents for anyone interested in an ownership experience for these cars: Price ------- I think the main appeal with these cars is that the base and sport editions can be had for very cheap -- the Nismo edition makes almost no sense price wise and has few stand-out features over the regular car and competitors in the market (even has some unique downsides like the fake engine noise!). For me, I picked up a base 6 speed manual car in Canada (for under 25K brand new with dealer incentives) with the goal of having a good street / track car to learn the basics on. At that price point the car is quite compelling - the BRZ / FRS are about as expensive and to get into a new 5.0 or SRT product you need to go $40k+ in Canada. Reliability -------- Contrary to Nissan's reputation these cars are easily serviceable and actually VERY reliable in almost all respects if treated correctly (this is key for any sports car though). The engine, transmission, and rest of the drivetrain are near bulletproof even with N/A power mods. If you stay ahead of fluid changes you will have no problems. Common problems have been quite well documented and include CSC failure, diff & rear subframe bushing degradation, weak paint, and poor chassis coverings leading to potential corrosion. I have driven mine 140k KM and have only encountered wear & tear issues (have been waiting for the infamous CSC failure but it has not occurred yet!) Maintenance costs are very reasonable and even more so if you do the work yourself. Mods & Aftermarket ------- With base bolt-ons and tune these cars can consistently approach 320-330 rwhp (270 stock) and still be very reliable. This isn't necessarily impressive by modern standards but it is more than enough power to have some fun on the street or track. Summary ------- Prices on these cars can be quite compelling and for the right price can really deliver a fun manual sports car experience. If you're looking for a straight line monster or the newest tech / features then this car will be a huge disappointment to you. If you're a fan of Japanese cars and are looking for a nicely balanced ride that takes well to mods and is easy to maintain the Z might be a good option for you. When compared to competitors though it has really fallen behind as a premium product.. Definitely excited for the 400z and what that has to offer! Love the show guys! Keep the content coming!
@itchyonion35593 жыл бұрын
I used to own a 6th gen Camaro ss. Now I own a 370Z. When I tracked my Camaro it put a smile on my face. Now, When I drive a stock 370Z on the track it was a disaster.
@genkideguire3 жыл бұрын
There's a general hatred and blind eye for what Nissan is and does in automotive media. Toyota has been doing the same with its cars an every body cowtows to them. And Honda as well. And the problem with Japanese car companies is they listen to American people who have no clue what they want... Nissan would rather build a 4cyl turbos Silvia S16. But Americans are drunk with hp and don't care about performance as they don't drive those types of roads in general. IMO they should have let the Fairlady have is day and move onto the Silvia which would have been more relevant today since they've got the Q50s. This chassis with a tuned 1.6t with hybrid would be the same weight with better acceleration and balance. And give it an ohlins adjustable setup. I don't see a business case for another Z. Silvia needed to be next although I like the look of the new Z.
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
Great info! 25k for a new one?!? Its hard to believe how cheap those are in America!
@tleoipl373 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir they don’t know the VQ trumpets that we got are reliable
@tleoipl373 жыл бұрын
@@jareknowak8712 you can find them Easy. They are hard to sell now. I got my IPL G37, a rarer “nismo” in a suit, got mine a couple years back for 28k with 20k miles
@MaddNomad10153 жыл бұрын
I’m just happy we still have the Z, 86/BRZ, Miata, WRX, etc. A lot of fun for a decent amount of money.
@cyberneticxylem96143 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm split between the 2022 brz and the 2022 Z
@EmiHZ23 жыл бұрын
@@cyberneticxylem9614 brz/frs is fun but gets boring quickly they are pretty slow get the Z
@cyberneticxylem96143 жыл бұрын
@@EmiHZ2 Maintenance costs?
@eguchiyosuke41703 жыл бұрын
This lady is still in my heart.
@feixas69613 жыл бұрын
That's fair
@boosted_brody54743 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@ohadparan28533 жыл бұрын
The people who like this car REALLY like it. My neighbor has one that he’s modded within an inch of its life and it’s fast as hell. He told me he wants to be buried it in, and he won’t be buying the new one.
@andrewcaron13 жыл бұрын
I really love mine!!
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Love my Nismo Z. Won’t be parting with it at all. Love the old school analogy feel. Did not buy it for the nav unit.
@shad31283 жыл бұрын
thats because he hasnt drove the new one. if its as good as it is on paper, thats going to be one hell of a car with the VR30 and the manual transmission. Both great cars IMO. I loved my nismo but parted ways with it for a redsport once I started working another job and I miss the nismo sometimes. cant go wrong with any of them though!
@ZombieJitsu3 жыл бұрын
I say the same thing about my 350Z, I love it!!! I had her since 2005 and I will be buried with her
@Awyp3 жыл бұрын
JUST WANT TO PUT THIS OUT HERE: If you're comparing the 370z to the Camaros and Mustangs from a performance perspective please also compare it from a reliability perspective. The american counterparts have a hard time reaching 100,000 miles without problems, while the 370z on numerous forums has gone past 200,000 miles. If you want a sports car for a long time, it's a great option.
@WaleedZanbagi3 жыл бұрын
So true
@leogarcia86402 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always found this funny. It’s only fair to compare every single aspect of a car when you’re considering buying one. As much as I am an American car guy it pains me to say that reliability can be a hit or miss. Japan stays king on that 100%
@boywhohadatiger8 ай бұрын
Coyote and ls and lt are pretty stout they make more hp and torque and have better performance figures considering the hp they make they are relatively reliable. They are basically just souped up truck engines
@2003SCT6 ай бұрын
Well currently here in Las Vegas (as of 3/26/24) there are 4 350z and a G35 for sale on OfferUp with non-original motors since the original ones blew up….i have a 2004 C5 with 346k original motor miles and counting (though my balancer needs replacing since it’s at a death wobble). I see SO many Z cars on their second engines so you know….
@ballshd63565 ай бұрын
@@2003SCTword, ls & coyote engines are way more bulletproof than vq’s!
@louiearmstrong3 жыл бұрын
Nissan: "Innovation That Excites!™" Also Nissan: Makes the same products for 10-15 years without major revisions
@wigletron28463 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with that in regards to the Z or fronteir. Nissan innovation=garbage
@andrewcaron13 жыл бұрын
From the 1st Z in 1969 To the present all increase in value with time
@JackFN_VR643 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket customization.
@DabblelyDiddly3 жыл бұрын
@@wigletron2846 nissan is garbage.
@nathanchildress55963 жыл бұрын
Nissan is having a rough time. But you would never say that in the 90s, they made some of the worlds best cars back then, and they dominated in IMSA and touring car racing. Ask the Millen family if Nissan is great.
@aiGeis3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, stock and modified these things look stunning. Add in all the aftermarket support and uniqueness of the mkIV supra-style interior, nice tach, and future cool-factor and you have one helluva car. Not 45k worth, but still great when you put the price aside.
@Maxmilion60043 жыл бұрын
i agree. i love the look of these cars.
@Unxpekted Жыл бұрын
Got a clean Z for dumb cheap, LOVE the car..
@wagjkproduction7553 жыл бұрын
I know it is dated.... but it is just sooooo good looking.
@zhila59583 жыл бұрын
yet simple and reliable.
@stephangauthier9113 жыл бұрын
Connected to my mobile app just for this comment. The exterior still looks GREAT.
@zhila59583 жыл бұрын
@@stephangauthier911 it aged really well
@pikapika45583 жыл бұрын
the most dated part is the infotainment. I really like the exterior and interior but when I cross shop this car and MX5, the miata feels more superior and more like a proper sports car even it lacks power.
@wagjkproduction7553 жыл бұрын
@@pikapika4558 ikr, I own a BRZ and I also feel everything is better on that other than the power. But it’s hard to deny the Zs big ass is unbelievably amazing to look at 😂 The infotainment is helpless I would just use a iPad instead
@DrivingDiego3 жыл бұрын
I own a 370z myself... and I agree, it’s hard to make an argument for buying a new one in 2020. However, I bought my 2010 for 13k and that is where this car makes a ton of sense. If you’re a person who likes to modify their car while maintaining usability/reliability, it’s perfect. You fix the 2 or 3 issues with cooling, etc and then you have a bulletproof V6 that you can road trip and turn lap after lap on the track. Not to mention it’s the perfect classic sports car equation: RWD+manual+naturally aspirated. If you’re considering one used, don’t let this review turn you away. It’s a steal right now for the earlier model ones. I’d argue it’s the perfect first sports car for those trying to dip their feet in. Loved the review though ;)
@dancarlos12163 жыл бұрын
Bingo, I’ve tracked a built up 350Z with my dad for a few years and just use heavy oil, have never once had oil issues even with double drivers for two day weekends. But Motul brake fluid and race pads on the Akebono are a must, Z1 two piece rotors helped a bit also.
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t so small I would definitely buy a Z for my next car
@DrivingDiego3 жыл бұрын
@@air-headedaviator1805 you could always get a Infiniti G37 which has the same engine but it’s a 4 door sedan with back seats. Also can have a manual transmission too
@thatpersiandude7386 Жыл бұрын
@@DrivingDiegog37s aren’t sports cars by any means!!!! i own ond and they’re heavy boats
@WheelmanMike3 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new 2009 370Z and sold it after a couple years but it still is the most fun car I've ever owned. I remember being able to push the car hard through corners and having a lot of confidence in the car. I have a 2009 Z06 and a 1996 Viper GTS and while both those cars are much quicker than my old 370, the 370 was just as much fun to drive. I can't wait to see how the 400Z benchmarks.
@unfairsanic50893 жыл бұрын
Why did you sold it? How bout the reliability?
@WheelmanMike3 жыл бұрын
@@unfairsanic5089 I had too many cars and not enough storage so I needed to get rid of one. I had my Viper and a 72 240Z at the same time. The car was reliable and I didn’t have any oil consumption issues, oil temp was an issue but that was solved by running Redline oil. I believe they started to put oil coolers in the Nismo models at some point. The only other issue these cars have is the fuel system is suspect to starvation under hard cornering if it gets too low. I wouldn’t be against buying another one and I guess that’s why I’m eager to see the production version of the 400Z.
@unfairsanic50893 жыл бұрын
@@WheelmanMike but do you think is good for a daily driver/ roadtrips if you leave it on stock or just another weekend car? 🤔 the reason is thinking to buying one or getting a 2nd gen used is350
@Wayne_de3 жыл бұрын
They are still using the same infotainment system before my son was born. He is 15 years old now.
@jareknowak87123 жыл бұрын
But Your boy does not have 350hp :P
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
Wrong it's actually touch screen now which is far better than my 07 HR infotainment
@boxr_42143 жыл бұрын
@@jponz85 ooooo fancy its got a resistive touch screen that needs like 5 lbs of pressure to register anything
@alexnolasco13393 жыл бұрын
Yup, got the same infotainment in my 09 G37
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
@@boxr_4214 better than wtf I have which is the touch buttons
@kevonevans27233 жыл бұрын
This will be a classic. Great looking car, Timeless design. If the selling price was reasonable I would have gotten one.
@Dowlphin3 жыл бұрын
For a car that is technically backwards it should at least have had the low-price appeal. I assume they jumped on the opportunity to minmax it. They really seem to be in trouble.
@andrewcaron13 жыл бұрын
Great engine, hydraulic steering, rear wheel drive, sexy looks, reliable, lots of aftermarket, what not to like?
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcaron1 people are just upset they can't afford it, so they bash it. Or don't have track skills, and therefore want an American car.
@warboyrb3 жыл бұрын
Future classic here. People never know what they have, until its gone.
@faekz3 жыл бұрын
The Z is going to go up in value soon because of drift tax just wait.
@liblib893 жыл бұрын
hope not
@ahhh62013 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, there are still a lot of nicely kept Z's owned by older people around for us to grab. The drift tax wont hit the 370z for a little while longer I'd say. Give it say, 5 more years
@faekz3 жыл бұрын
@@ahhh6201 maybe. They are buying up 350z now because cheaper but they will go up in price soon. I miss my 350z hopefully I can scoop up another one before prices get too high
@ci65163 жыл бұрын
Why would it suddenly go up in value hasn’t drift tax always existed ?
@liblib893 жыл бұрын
@@ci6516 no, the value of the cars have to drop enough so that barrier to entry is lowered for the drift rats, when they destroy or blow the cars up, then the value goes up because of a scarcity of cars in the market...happens with engines too
@PianoBlackTrimRep.3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Turbowski, wherever he is.
@nickz49933 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to him?
@eliotgarcia213 жыл бұрын
@@nickz4993 he failed NNN so he was forced to enter an endless void.
@iHaveTheDocuments3 жыл бұрын
@@nickz4993 he morphed into an Asian guy
@ustuplay77823 жыл бұрын
Working 6 1/2 days a week
@PianoBlackTrimRep.3 жыл бұрын
I heard he's up in Stateville for joyriding in a gocart.
@killakam1233213 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why people say the VQ in this 370z sounds bad
@andrewcaron13 жыл бұрын
Me either 🙁
@doggystyledave3 жыл бұрын
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@2Panic3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing your passion for cars to KZbin, every other review channel feels like an advertisement to me now. I am so happy that you have managed to carve a space and find an audience that can support you spending so much time discussing engineering and design. These are the things that not only interest me as a car enthusiast, but also help average people make informed buying decisions. Never change, guys.
@feelthatfeelthat3 жыл бұрын
Enthusiasts have been complaining about this car for over 8 years now. What enthusiasts don't realize is that this is the last JDM car that has a naturally aspirated v6, a manual transmission and hydraulic steering. Good luck getting these ever again...which is why prices are only going up with these cars.
@busterscrugs3 жыл бұрын
That's not the correct use of the term JDM. Enthusiasts do realize the points you listed, but they also realize it drives like shit compared to a Miata or S2K or any other car that can be had for the same price.
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it is a JDM car and one of the last ones made. The Miata is a great little car. Well balanced and drifts awesome, but it is not on the same scale as a Z. Not even by a long shot.
@feelthatfeelthat3 жыл бұрын
@@busterscrugs I've been at it since 2000. I know the correct use of JDM. Haha silly. Also I own a Miata, and a g37 and have driven plenty of 370z over the years and I lost you when you said the 370z drives like shit. Idiot
@christophergonzalez55523 жыл бұрын
@@busterscrugs Any car of the same price? I disagree. This car with a clean title and in good used conditions can run you around 15-20k depending on the trim. That’s used s550 mustang territory. Having owned BOTH a 2014 Nissan 370Z sport and a 2016 s550(5.0 of course) I have to completely disagree. Performance wise my Z Isn’t too far behind my mustang, when it’s stock. Now, my Z has a couple of simple bolt on mods and a small tune which on a Dino I was able to measure around 327whp. That’s fast enough to give the mustang a very good run for its money. My s550 is a joy to drive and it’s fast but it does not feel sporty in the way a Z does. I can throw my Z around corners and swing it with ease, it’s a joy. I love the sound of the v6 as mine isn’t completely straight piped. You don’t own a Z for speed, they’re not FAST but they are quick nimble little cars. A slightly heavier but much more powerful 86 if you will.
@busterscrugs3 жыл бұрын
@@leewarner9357 JDM means Japanese Domestic Market. As in, a vehicle sold IN JAPAN FOR THE JAPANESE MARKET. If this were JDM it'd be right hand drive and imported. You sound like a 12 year old who doesn't actually know anything about cars.
@loki_wolff3 жыл бұрын
It's been a great 6+ years with my 2009 370z. It's a real driving experience you just don't get anymore. Good power, fantastic handling and an amazing engine sound with a proper exhaust. The aftermarket support is pretty huge too.
@asdf515013 жыл бұрын
Bad exhaust notes? The worst exhaust note I've ever heard is the very kazoo like straight piped Ecoboost Mustang.
@finylin3 жыл бұрын
As a previous 370z owner and a current Mustang EcoBoost owner, I approve this message.
@MymRockero3 жыл бұрын
Don't know what are they talking about, vq engine has one of the better sounds with a proper exhaust
@TheWiniarss3 жыл бұрын
Mustang 5.0 is worse though, sounds like pretencious shit.
@K03sport3 жыл бұрын
Even my 04 pathfinder (vq35de) sounded decent. Always enjoyed stepping on the loud/go pedal.
@devianb3 жыл бұрын
@@MymRockero I think it is an acquired taste. I do like the sound.
@louie43163 жыл бұрын
This video should get over 3000 likes for the fact that he didn't beep out the F- bomb.
@johnblair13733 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to take delivery of my 370Z Nismo at the end of this month! Truly a special car.
@warboyrb3 жыл бұрын
Its one of those "never sell" cars. Thumbs up to you Sir
@m.84423 жыл бұрын
Nothing special about this car whatsoever.
@zeliangchen5303 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2014 370z ( auto/convertible) for a year, it was my first sports car and I absolutely love it, I love the way it looks, love the way it handles, It was confidence inspiring for a new driver, so fun to drive, the auto even today is not that bad, definitely would buy a nismo in the future
@romaingallard83853 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve got these magnificent lateral dampers in my CT200h. It makes a big difference handling the 134 wild horse power in the Walmart parking lot!
@chooseymomschoose3 жыл бұрын
"It sounds like a Japanese tractor." Legit spit take over here...
@chaseteter3 жыл бұрын
@@toddlehman1 Don't they both pipe in fake engine noise? Nissan was never the best sounding car but BMW used to be upper echelon. How the mighty have fallen.
@andrewcaron13 жыл бұрын
Then a Japanese tractor must be pretty cool!
@busterscrugs3 жыл бұрын
It does sound pretty awful though, especially with the fake engine noise.
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Love my Nissan Tractor Z. I laugh every day when my friend has to bring in his 2020 M2 Beamer to the dealer on a bi weekly basis cause his shit breaks all the time and a 11 yr platform Z still runs all day long with no problems 😂
@BigHeadClan3 жыл бұрын
Hah the vq motors do have a bit of a truckish tone too them especially the vq35s but it's really not that bad unless your holding the Rpms above 6000 rpm.
@kevinbarry713 жыл бұрын
Crushing Oreos into someone's hairy back? That is brilliant and disgusting at the same time. And I agree, I detest Alcântara
@MattNukem3 жыл бұрын
It's fine when you put it places you don't often touch, like a shift boot or a door card, or even a headliner. I absolutely do not get placing it on steering wheels or shift knobs.
@pereldh57413 жыл бұрын
Matthew Merkey Agree, great everywhere but steering wheel & gearknob. And it's 'alcantara' - it's an italian invention not spanish
@dancarlos12163 жыл бұрын
@@MattNukem Because the Supercars that trend started in only drove 20 miles a year.
@ARentz073 жыл бұрын
I had an Alcantara phone case for a while. It got pretty crappy after about 3 months. Though it was fun to say I had an "Al-can-terra" phone case.
@aaromon433 жыл бұрын
i can't believe honda went with a fabric steering wheel on the type r. can you imagine picking up your car from service and there's dirt & grease caked into the fabric? at least with a leather wrapped wheel you can make it feel like new again with cleaning products (e.g., a magic erase). you are SOL with alcantara, suede, etc.
@c_dubbzz61273 жыл бұрын
I've had my 09Z since 2014. Never getting rid of it.
@satchels64513 жыл бұрын
sold my 09 Z in 2014. did you buy mine, lol
@c_dubbzz61273 жыл бұрын
@@satchels6451 Was it at a Cadillac dealership near Allentown PA?
@satchels64513 жыл бұрын
@@c_dubbzz6127 oh, nvm lol. this was near seattle
@c_dubbzz61273 жыл бұрын
@@satchels6451 Lots of Z’s out there lol.
@SicSemperBeats3 жыл бұрын
Id rather a z over an 86. I hate the 86’s engine literally the sore spot on a nearly perfect car otherwise. A vq(or any decent v6) swapped 86 would be perfect as it would still be NA.
@filthyvibes47683 жыл бұрын
The 86’s engine will feel “normal” if you spend a grand on headers and a tune. Then, it’ll feel better than the ancient 370z
@anthonywoodward20273 жыл бұрын
the power and torque is there, but i never really liked how the vq sounds
@z1mke3 жыл бұрын
@@filthyvibes4768 Drove both of them tuned with bolt ons...and thats why I bought a Z about 4 years ago... and it is still the fun weekend car in my garage.
@jeffoa23193 жыл бұрын
@@filthyvibes4768 Yeah, if you have the money for either, spend the difference for a nice 370 on one of the twins + the UELs. Even the shitty stock setup feels good at high revs past the torque dip.
@verlaneugene86753 жыл бұрын
@@filthyvibes4768 not even. There is a huge power difference plus headers and a tune won’t get you gobs amount of power in this little 4 cylinder
@mattrancho3 жыл бұрын
That last sentence on his final thoughts 👌 exactly. Thats why im planning to keep my 2013 370z for a long time. Maybe even til i die. Itll be a car i show my grandchildren & great grandchildren. Ill get newer cars as i grow older , but this one i won’t be able to let go..
@JEBISVOJUMAJKU3 жыл бұрын
That was a savage review. It definitely has it's flaws but it looks great and NISMO badges still get lots of respect. Could it be better? Yes of course. Is it terrible? Hell no.
@JacobKaplan04053 жыл бұрын
I had a random Z craving today, so I'm happy to see this video uploaded to KZbin. I used to have a 350z without the money to modify it, and that's all I ever wanted to do. These cars are truly customizable and don't come perfect from the factory, but that is their certain appeal. You can really set these cars up to be sometime truly special, and I can't wait to own another Z in the future.
@Zixxer2Go3 жыл бұрын
OK, I'll start..."Hi, my name is Steve, and I own this car (2018 Pearl White 370Z Nismo)". "But why?" you say? I love the real "sports car" looks; swoopy bodywork,, 6 speed MT, rear wheel drive, sharp looking wheels, meaty tires, super clean interior, and the HP premium over modern-day sports cars near the same price point (used, $30K). I loved the communication of the RX-8's handling, but it was underpowered. Same with the Porsche Cayman, though that one was a little too $$ for everyday life to me. Plus I have LOTS of great mountain twisties near where I live, which makes life SO much more entertaining than simple straight line HP. The infotainment unit is a bit dated and clunky, but that's only a secondary consideration for me. Should I apologize that I own this car? Nah...I'll be going to The Dragon (again) here shortly...that's the best part ;-)
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Steve Hays , we are planning a trip to the Dragon as well, lol. Have a 2020 pearl white Nismo manual
@rupptube3 жыл бұрын
I hear ya boys. My 2019 white nismo still draws way more looks than many other cars. Driving enjoyment is very subjective - I think the car is kool - and I don’t think it will take more than 5 years before people are looking for clean examples of these cars to buy.
@rickkern57853 жыл бұрын
I just spent a couple of days at the Dragon with a Mustang eco manual. Too much fun, I would love to play there with your nismo too. Enjoy.
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
@@rupptube that couldn't be more true, I've seen car and non-car people alike who couldn't stop staring at this car, it's a showstopper and very supercar-esque. No one wants to see a mustang, camaro, or 86 they've seen a million times already. They blend in like civcs and corollas nowadays
@idokwatcher20622 жыл бұрын
Just don't go into right hand corners or you'll starve the pump of fuel. That's the "innovative" NISMO engineering for ya.
@xcg12343 жыл бұрын
Nissan is like the Suzuki in motorcycle field, they had brilliant peak era and they stopped the innovation. Sitting on the same model/platform for decades, while other company keep pushing out new tech and models.
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
That definitely sounds like Nissan lol. High peaks! And then loooooong valley’s
@timothycc7113 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they merged with Renault. End of a good Japanese brand. Put a fork in Nissan. And now don't buy this car thinking its a collectable 😆
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
@@timothycc711 you ever even owned a Renault?
@timothycc7113 жыл бұрын
@@air-headedaviator1805 a French pile? No thankfully not.
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
@@timothycc711 then where is your reference for their quality from?
@CarGuy873 жыл бұрын
Solid bushings will give you the FEEL back. It does feel "rubbery" in general.
@victorhs2583 жыл бұрын
polyurethane is always the answer, from suspension to motor and transmission mounts.
@busterscrugs3 жыл бұрын
yeah, they'll give you the feel back but the cabin will be noisy and rattling like a 90's Civic.
@nathanchildress55963 жыл бұрын
It’s true, all Zs have lots of roll and bounce until you fix the bushings and swaybars. I spun my G35 chasing a Miata through an S curve. Made it out clean but I had to fix that right away.
@briand.16943 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't know they were still manufacturing this car. Hardly ever see any on the road.
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
I see a several in central Texas where I’m at.
@aezzil35363 жыл бұрын
Theres a decent amount here in East Texas. 350's on the other hand are like relic's
@kilovwdude64573 жыл бұрын
I see them all the time North Texas
@trooper51313 жыл бұрын
I see them at car meets n shit. But rarely just on the road alone especially compared to Camaros or Mustangs - granted looks aren't for everyone I've heard some say they look like UFOs. In my opinion I'd fucking whip around a UFO anyday.
@pitis2flie3 жыл бұрын
I see them regularly. Maybe not brand new ones though lol.
@morriemukoda453 жыл бұрын
Damn...that is one good looking car...after all these years.
@oogalee3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with the last point. After 400z release: "I wish they still made this"
@hagenherrmann82043 жыл бұрын
the 400z will be the same car/platform, just wearing a new suit and packing a different motor.
@visd.93443 жыл бұрын
I think final thoughts were super accurate. I have a 370z and I still have random people when I'm out and about stop me to tell me they love the car. Both the younger gen and older gen love the Z. The other day I talked to a older guy who stopped me as I was driving through a parking lot and he was so happy to see the 370z. He said it was the best car in the whole parking lot and he hated that he had sold his 300zx back in the late 90s. I may bias but I think 350z and 370z will age very well after the stop producing them.
@datacipher Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2019 z a couple years ago. I had the mindset: nobody cares about an “old” car. It’s unbelievable… having a shiny new stock z… I get approached and compliments everywhere. Yes… all ages… drive through kids come to the window to tell me they love the car, little 8 yr olds have given me thumbs up multiple times driving past… old men have approached me at gas stations, at the park, so many drivers have given me a thumbs up and stares. After all these years, it’s still not that common, and normal people don’t think it’s old like savage geese elitest snobs trying to be laid back cool (and I like the geese). I actually hate the attention, but it’s there.
@MitchMatrixx3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely not the kind of PREMIUM Nissan that John Business would drive... When are Chet and John gonna do a creamy GTR?
@jackholmes81053 жыл бұрын
Maybe this winter
@cybermind41583 жыл бұрын
When this car is no longer made, it will be highly sought after. This is especially true of the Nismo version. All the points you bring up could’ve been said for previous gen Supras, RX7’s, etc. Look at what’s happened to those cars. They’ve become highly collectible and a lot of people would give their right nut to own one. This car will be no different in the future.
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Mario M , I totally agree
@Maxmilion60043 жыл бұрын
you are right. the toyota supras especially are amazing. i always wanted one. never could afford it. 80k some of them fully done up and that was years ago when i was young
@allthepizzainmybelly13023 жыл бұрын
LOL. No.
@Maxmilion60043 жыл бұрын
@@allthepizzainmybelly1302 regardless of what you sat look at the prices of these cars
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
All I will say is Mario is right. My Nismo Z has gone up in value 2 months in a row now according to KBB and NADA.
@Lionsheartification3 жыл бұрын
Definitely would take this over an 86/frs. And I may be the only one who likes the sound. For sure sounds better than an ecoboost 🤷🏿♂️
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
Right? I find nothing wrong with this sound as it sounds awesome to me
@timothycc7113 жыл бұрын
Except with ecoboost you have twice the power.
@snapyo14723 жыл бұрын
Ark, Motordyne, and Injen make great cbe for this car. it does sound trumpetish but its definetly a unique note. It kills me when people do a straight pipe w test pipes and they think their VQ sounds good.
@Lionsheartification3 жыл бұрын
@@timothycc711 Na. Stock, the Z beats it on power and weight
@tibor293 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they're hating on the sound either. Sure the stock exhaust isn't great, even on the Nismo, but with an aftermarket exhaust like Fast Intentions or Armytrix it sounds awesome.
@ryanrhinoceros21233 жыл бұрын
Loved the final thoughts. Couldn't agree more with this car being a future classic, people WILL miss this simple formula of a sports car
@BKFS-ls9by3 жыл бұрын
First time in a while that I disagree with Jack. Who in their right mind would take an 86 over a 370z at the same price? I sure wouldn’t
@SaintMecha3 жыл бұрын
Yup. It's crazy. 370z all the way over 86/BRZ. Heck I'd take a 2016 Genesis Coupe or 350z over a 2020 BRZ any day anytime
@BKFS-ls9by3 жыл бұрын
@@SaintMecha I understand the merits of the BRZ, but if I only had enough money to buy a BRZ I would just save my money for a better car
@xiw3stsid3ix373 жыл бұрын
Fr I drove one and wasnt impressed the driving positions good but it's still on McPherson struts and personally for me that FA20 is just an absolute snore fest I'll take my dated 350z any day of the week.
@Affalterbach19673 жыл бұрын
This car (all 370z) will look better for enthusiasts in hindsight than the Audi TT from the same era. Love that the 370z is not a softer bigger 350z.
@kurtmuroki87633 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion. I’m curious to see the 400z.
@beexiong29953 жыл бұрын
Lol prepare to be disappointed. Its the same car minus the skin, engine and touchscreen infotainment
@tyukikiquinchi73673 жыл бұрын
this channel is so underrated
@malcolmar3 жыл бұрын
I always loved the 370Z Nismo. Don't care for that piped-in sound but I love this car. Is there even an option to turn that off? Classic styling, 6-speed manual, V6 rear-wheel drive, that is a recipe for fun. I also believe these cars are going to be more sought after when they are gone. A neighbor has one and every time it drives down the street it catches your attention.
@hindeshotelra3 жыл бұрын
Nismo would wipe the floor with the GT86
@deborahdiperna24513 жыл бұрын
Ricky not in the corners.
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
@@deborahdiperna2451 wtf do you mean "not in the corners" lmao. The base 370z obliterates those twin cars on track. Shit my HR 350z shits and giggles 86's.
@deborahdiperna24513 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Pontel the 370 weights 3,232 lbs compared to the 2700 of the 86. It also has a lower center of gravity. It handles better than any z car. Who cares if it's not as fast as one.
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
@@deborahdiperna2451 on track, especially in the nurburgring the Z anhiliates any 86 or s2k. The 86 is definitely lighter, doesnt mean itll be faster.
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
@L W tf you laughing at the nurburgring as an example? Wtf!?! Canyon run it, track it, dig it, roll race, drift, you name it the twin cars are slow af. Continue to believe what you want those cars look great but are complete garbage. Shit even my old ass 98 prelude sh is faster lmao and they're heavy af.
@andreipiv3 жыл бұрын
"You have to love Nissan" WHO LOVES NISSAN in 2020. It's like the darkest days of Chrysler but in japanese
@Tinrs803 жыл бұрын
I happen to like all manufacturers cause its jobs for people building them.
@constructionbootgazer3 жыл бұрын
Miss my 93 maxima. Nissan hasn’t been Nissan for a long time.
@BigHeadClan3 жыл бұрын
Except Nissan actually has compelling products when they put the work in and invests in New technologies.... Oh they also actually sell cars. They've also been here before back in the late 90s so hardly their darkest days.
@warboyrb3 жыл бұрын
Me. They hopefully get their mojo back. Rough, hard-core, enthusiast cars. Enough said.
@Imagineering1003 жыл бұрын
Yes bring back Turbowski he gave his honest experience as a mechanic which is what every one wants well I do .
@chrish84873 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for the 370z but my daily driver is a 2013 G37 and it is a great car and has been totally reliable with 70k so far. Plus they are cheap and don't have forced induction or DI to worry about.
@egs21693 жыл бұрын
Agreed. My DD is a 2012 G37x. It’s a tank. Fast, reliable, great in all conditions and looks timeless. Gets the gas mileage of a truck but that’s worth it to me.
@deathofakitty3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it take premium fuel?
@chrish84873 жыл бұрын
@@deathofakitty It's recommended to use 91 octane but it will run on 87. You just lose some power and mpg.
@momotaroux2643 жыл бұрын
Here in Vancouver (unsure if it's like this for the rest of Canada/North America), we see Mustangs, Challengers, Chargers, Camaros, 86/BRZ/FRS's a lot. But the Z isn't something you see every day, especially a NISMO version (V1 or V2, they're both uncommon). I jumped on a 2020 NISMO myself since it made sense financially (my 2019 Sport Z was totaled and the vehicle replacement insurance I had covered a good chunk of the NISMO; that and I was restricted to get a car from the same dealership per the policy, so it made sense). This car, even though it's over a decade old, still breaks necks. It still gets people looking and staring at it when driving by and when it's parked. There's something special about them and they have this charm from the 90s/00s. With a few tasteful mods, this car can sound amazing, and with the adequate maintenance, they can be incredibly reliable as well. Even taking boost on a stock block and internals is insane for the power it can reliably make. Give this a go if you're in the market for a sports car. As someone who's been through two Z34s in two years, I absolutely see my NISMO as a forever car.
@petartrifonov88239 ай бұрын
Why are the presenters hating so much? Besides the fake noise, which you can easily disable, it's a beautiful car to own. I don't like the review.
@BigHeadClan3 жыл бұрын
Feel like Jack's opinion Flys in the face of his previous review but he was just starting to host so maybe he was pulling his punches. In any event up till 2015 at least I'd take the Z over an American any day of the week as it's flaws are few and the price very appealing.
@Maelstrom83 жыл бұрын
Very true. But he makes some valid points here. As a 6 gen Camaro owner that test drove the mustang and the Zs, there is no reason to settle on this as a new car. The American offerings have grown so much better. And I am a Japanese Car enthusiast. Used, I can see the appeal. But for 45k? That's insane. Nissan should have dropped the price on these to keep them competitive. R&D on them is over a decade old.
@BigHeadClan3 жыл бұрын
@@Maelstrom8 Oh as a new car the nismo version makes no sense, the sport package trim for 33k is its sweet spot if you have to buy new. But buying used is the way to go, especially for those who like tinkering and I think Mr Geese was spot on in the summary, 10 years or so when these are gone is when people will truly approciate them.
@freedbeefpontoons3 жыл бұрын
@@Maelstrom8 The price is insane (though non-Nismo versions with the same engine start at $30K) but I can see the size argument for this over a Mustang or Camaro. I live in the city and parallel parking is a thing, having a shorter car without rear seats that you'll never use is a big deal. Being shorter and narrower also generally makes driving in traffic easier. I'd also reckon it has slightly better visibility than a Camaro, though i'm sure its nothing to write home about either.
@Maelstrom83 жыл бұрын
@@freedbeefpontoons Agreed. Size and weight are the real pros for the Z. Well said.
@Jxc01223 жыл бұрын
I feel like they switched opinions haha
@CPMUNSEY3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the VQ with a good exhaust on it. It’s the kids that straight pipe them that give them a bad rep as sounding like💩💩
@mojogustavo3363 жыл бұрын
True I've heard amazing VQ's and the latter you mentioned.
@CPMUNSEY3 жыл бұрын
Faramir leaving the stock cats and going with a single Tomei canister muffler produces the best sound out of the VQ in my opinion.
@nathanchildress55963 жыл бұрын
The Tomei hurts your ears IMO. I think VQs need bass to sound good.
@CPMUNSEY3 жыл бұрын
Nathan Childress I think the Tomei has a good bass tone to it. Maybe a little too loud in the higher RPM’s for some people. Leaving the duals and doing a Borla catback system sounds good too. That gives it a deeper bass tone to it.
@chrisledesma8502 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchildress5596 check out aam exhaust with motordyne art pipes, sounds deep
@773superprguy2 жыл бұрын
This car definitely my goal in the next few years, always wanted one.
@KarlOsuchowski3 жыл бұрын
Top notch video as always!! I was recently shocked to see that the standard 370z was on sale here in Germany retailing at €30k (non-Nismo), and it was still 39k about a year ago. They’ve since removed it from the website, but that’s SO MUCH CAR for 30k!!
@blakecaliper5406 Жыл бұрын
It's so crazy that the S2000 has been out of production for more than a decade and is still a relevant and valid competitor in this segment of the market
@bjornironsides64742 жыл бұрын
Definitely gets a lot of looks and you don't see too many. That's why I got a slightly used one. I want to keep it forever. Sweet ass ride that you don't see in every parking lot.
@r3n3gad34l1f33 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is that nissan is able sell these dinosaurs for 30k plus new, i thought the Dodge Journey was ancient lol
@kdawghomie3 жыл бұрын
I bought one new back in 2014 at a great discount and even THEN i was like "man, I'm getting a great deal cuz a year from now this thing will be out of production." Boy was i wrong...
@stevee83183 жыл бұрын
They are the same age. The thing is though that the Journey is a cheap, entry level SUV so it's easier to excuse its age and quality issues. When you are paying $20k for a 3 row crossover you know it's probably not going to be a great vehicle.
@drj20393 жыл бұрын
you can still buy 20 year old motorcycles new in 2020...
@rickkern57853 жыл бұрын
@@drj2039 That really is strange as so many bikes like the DRZ400 or the DR650 are over 20 years old with virtually no changes..
@drj20393 жыл бұрын
@@rickkern5785 yes indeed I was referring to the DR-Z400 as I've got one and am very happy with it 😁
@GiGaSzS3 жыл бұрын
I really like this old car refresh reviews. They show if the past issues have been resolved and if today's cars offer any advantages/disadvantages compared to old.
@07wrxtr13 жыл бұрын
Whats hilarious is that my 370z, 2014, gets tons of looks, because it just stands out among the endless sea of "me too" suv/cuv/s and over styled newer vehicles. It's not worth putting any money into, and I'm not going to get much for it if I traded it in, so just going to keep it, daily it, and get the 400z when it's out... or go GTR with some basic bolt ons/tune perhaps.
@DebianDog3 жыл бұрын
Yep I have an Ultrasonic blue Lexus RCF but I think it's beautiful but I'm telling I used to get so many more compliments on my cherry black 370 Z. I will disagree with you though on modifications. Changing out the intake and exhaust with a pro tune on a dyno took that car from 7/10's to 9/10's. some days I wish I still had it.
@07wrxtr13 жыл бұрын
@@DebianDog yeah intake / exhaust/tune is fine... but putting $20k into it for forced induction... that's debateable
@jayespi373 жыл бұрын
I agree! Every car that is discontinued, people say the same. Why was it discontinued...and then they become popular. SMH
@aos-archive3 жыл бұрын
People want what they can't have.... especially if you don't have that convenience of just "picking one up at the store". Influenced by unattainable dreams and materialistic values. I've collected Hot Wheels with that in mind, "how awesome would it be to have something no one else has"...
@xcg12343 жыл бұрын
Imaging buying this car new with MSRP in 2020... That'd be dumbest decision one can make.
@NDEEZMiata3 жыл бұрын
Yeah....nismo Z that can’t really be tracked stock and sounds like shite...or SS 1LE lol
@cardude19923 жыл бұрын
Unless its good to drive and reliable to keep long term. It's a good old school sportscar with pedigree and nismo version too. It will probably appreciate in value in the long run. I wouldn't mind it as long as its engine is reliable and I'm rich enough haha.
@timothycc7113 жыл бұрын
@@cardude1992 appreciate in the long run...not in 100 years 😆
@cardude19923 жыл бұрын
@@timothycc711 it will be more collectible when most sport cars become electric in the future. There are always enthusiasts for old school proper sports cars.
@frshkidg3 жыл бұрын
$47,000 for an auto-Z in 2020 is disgusting...
@ItsTheNada3 жыл бұрын
Jack’s hate is REAL lol. This is the best used analog feeling sports car out there. Yes you DO have to mod it lightly.
@dielaughing732 жыл бұрын
And 'lightly' is true. I bolted on a cheap catback and am honestly amazed at the improvement in power down low. That makes me want to keep going with high-flow cats, intake and a tune to liven the car up to the way it should have been out of the factory. Suspension will come next - better damping and reduced body roll will improve handling to the level I need. So skocks or coilovers plus maybe sway bars. The brakes work well and haven't overheated on me. I'll upgrade the pads and fluid when they're due. If the CSC fails I'll deal with that then. A better diff would be nice but that may be where I draw the line.
@ItsTheNada2 жыл бұрын
@@dielaughing73 When I had mine, I did wheels, tires, break pads, cold air intake, REV 9 cat back and sprint booster. That car really came alive with those mods and sounded amazing
@Relatyvity3 жыл бұрын
The thing is outside of the US, you can't just walk into a dealership and get an american muscle-car. I can however walk into the local Nissan dealership and walk out with a 370Z.
@z1mke3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Febonicu3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, you can. Just walk into a Ford dealership and get your 5.0 V8 Mustang the way you like it. Weither as a coupe, cabriolet, manual or automatic. I have no information on the competitors whatsoever
@z1mke3 жыл бұрын
@@Febonicu That is true... but for the price of a good BMW M4 in most of the european countries (about 90k euros in Croatia) which defeats its purpose (I know its mostly because of the emission taxes) and the waiting period when you order one via your dealership is like importing the car yourself from the USA.
@Febonicu3 жыл бұрын
@@z1mke A Mustang costs 90k in your country? Here in Germany the V8 starts at around 46.000 MSRP. And you have to know that Ford dealerships tend to give huge sales (up to 31% on Transit f.e.), so maybe you can get it for 42.000 for a V8 Coupe, Manual with already plenty of options in base trim. Where did you get your price from, i'm curious?
@z1mke3 жыл бұрын
@@Febonicu From the Ford dealership... even if I import one from Germany I need to pay about 30k euros of emission and value taxes. It's like that for a lot of EU countries...and it is widespread knowledge in Europe that cars in Germany are the cheapest. The Ford dealership I went to in 2017 had a fastback 5.0 listed for 85k without any additional options ... the so called "special tax" was 260k kunas (about 35k euros) mostly because of 299 g/km co2 emissions.
@JackalCars3 жыл бұрын
Man, you guys are just great.. spot on. Don't go anywhere.
@verlaneugene86753 жыл бұрын
Damn this guy really hates the Z. I am bamboozled
@liamnissanS2K3 жыл бұрын
Are Z cars supposed to be anything other than a college boy racers dream cars? Not really surprised.
@verlaneugene86753 жыл бұрын
@@liamnissanS2K it’s not trying to be something it isn’t. It’s a fun sports car nothing else.
@egs21693 жыл бұрын
I drive a “Z in a tuxedo” (G37x) with the same VQ engine. Best car I’ve owned. Fast, drive year around, built like a tank, fits the whole family (sedan). Only downside is the truck like gas mileage but I’ll take that for the power it has.
@Anthony-gb8vv3 жыл бұрын
I own a v2 Nismo so maybe my opinion is biased. With that being said, I think this is a very unfair review and the dude driving obviously likes his long wheelbase v8s. Plus winter tires!! Common, how could you get steering feel with winters, and if you look closely the tread doesn’t match from backs to fronts. I’m very disappointed in this review. Some good points and yes it is over priced but it is truly an amazing car in so many ways. Reliability, fun/cool factor and in my opinion the perfect amount of speed for streets. Lastly, throw on any exhaust system “tomei” and you will have arguably one of the best sounding v6s
@GODSPEEDseven3 жыл бұрын
I just wish I saw more of these around... It's a beautiful car. Kind of a reminder of the Japanese 90's "glory days" in a way...
@63JackBlack3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the 400z to come out so i can get one of these for dirt cheap
@windogendoors75663 жыл бұрын
Yeah with every piece of new 400z news, the price gets cheaper.
@moeezahmedshahaab3 жыл бұрын
As a long time SG watcher: this was one of the worst reviews you guys have made. - Jack would just interrupt and wouldn’t let anyone else speak and then go off on this huge tangent - As someone looking into a 370z, I don’t care how the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger drives.... I’m watching a 370Z video to hear about how the 370Z drives. Jack just went on and on about those cars. This is a 370z review NOT a comparison video. Ofcourse some comparison is inevitable (as evident in nearly all your videos which is 100% helpful) but this was way WAY too much. Jack, I don’t care what you PERSONALLY think I should get, I think you need to start being more objective in your reviews. When speaking about the engine, not once did you mention its fantastic reliability, you tried to up-play its minor issues, while in the Corvette video, you downplayed the issue of valve float (a considerably major issue compared to oil temps of the VQ). In the 2 hour live video, your biases were extremely obvious and strong. It’s totally okay to have biases and to show them, but it’s not okay to have them cloud and shape your objective judgement when you’re reviewing cars. A balance of objectivity and biases has not been achieved by you yet. Please recognize and learn from that. Also, let Mark talk and stop interrupting him. You said your point, let him say his perspective. It’s not about who’s right, it’s about giving us both perspectives and WE decide who’s right. You need to let him speak & you need to control your biases. Edit: I still liked this video along with all your videos... I still love this channel very much, which is why I care so much about Jack’s performance and why I wrote that long winded comment. I care about this channel & I WANT to see it blow up and succeed!
@jacksparrow52813 жыл бұрын
Let’s get a “get rid of Jack and bring back Todd” petition going.
@moeezahmedshahaab3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksparrow5281 Honestly, I WANTED to like Jack so much, me and my friends watch SG’s videos so much and they all talk shit on Jack and I’ve always defended him.... but I can’t it anymore he’s just getting worse I agree with you :( Edit: grammar
@sleeksilver3 жыл бұрын
Your comment needs to be at the top.
@moeezahmedshahaab3 жыл бұрын
@@sleeksilver Dude/Dudette, I’m glad you agree, would really help out if you also wrote a comment like this so there are more chances of them seeing!
@jackholmes81053 жыл бұрын
I dont disagree i did a piss poor job putting into words how i felt about this car and on expanding on why i dont like it versus just ranting about it. This is without a doubt one our poorer videos. Mark and i tried to force and argument in the drive segment because in truth neither of us like the car, so we tried to play both sides a bit and failed at it. We will try and do better. We did do a disservice to the people who love this car. I hope You enjoy our future videos. I genuinely appreciate your feedback. In regards to my direct opinion my issue with this car is it feels more like a Japanese muscle car than it does a dedicated sports car. You lack the feedback(connected front end and a reactive suspension) and The focus of the 86, miata and s2k in being connected drivers cars, but in exchange you get speed. But to me if you want speed and the muscle car experience get a real muscle car. The mustangs and camaros do the horsepower and noise thing far better. Thus i feel and always feel the 370z has always been in this weird spot of doing neither particularly well. It much like a stock mustang or camaro does not reward you for driving it hard on a backroad it's squishiness in front and rear end feel plus its not entirely direct inputs dont help either, so instead of rewarding you for pushing it harder in corners it punishes you. Chris harris did a much better video on explaining exactly this. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIbLfYusrdGEiJY. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIm7oqdpms2Gd8k Again thank you for watching and I appreciate your input. When in the past we said we read every comment we really do try.
@SHELBYGT6453 жыл бұрын
i love my z
@xiw3stsid3ix373 жыл бұрын
It was a very one sided review they even admitted somewhere in the comments. I have a 350z I love it and have no plans to get rid of it The way I see it as long as it's able to put a smile on your face everytime you take it out fuck what anyone else has to say about it🤙
@veryrare76473 жыл бұрын
if its so great why have you had 3?
@SHELBYGT6452 жыл бұрын
@@veryrare7647 im on my 3rd because my first one was ended by another car. the second was purchased thru insurance and it was automatic. my brother has taken ownership of the second one my current z is manual with an lsd swap and fbo tuned i love driving it every single day
@zstxrzz3 жыл бұрын
To me the interior is perfect the way it is. Fits the personality of the Z perfectly. I understand what people mean by it being dated. But why fix something that ain’t broke? These cars will be classic sport cars in the future for sure.
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
Well, how many cars in it's used price range have that much Alcantara? You got the wheel, side inserts, knee rests and seats.
@zstxrzz3 жыл бұрын
@@manveerghuman5276 alcantara isn’t an issue unless you are a dirty person. My Audi had just as much if not more and was never an issue. Just clean it. If you’re truly into cars then it wouldn’t be a problem unless you don’t personally like the material then it’s understandable.
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
@@zstxrzz I think you read it wrong, I love Alcantara!
@zstxrzz3 жыл бұрын
@@manveerghuman5276 my bad ! Same here haha
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
@@zstxrzz I have it on my sim racing wheel l, but I haven't taken good care of it, but with the worn effect it looks more realistic.
@alexhc213 жыл бұрын
If this car was introduced today people would be falling over themselves to buy it
@clonetrooper5763 жыл бұрын
facts.
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Yep and it’s made by Japanese people to, not by a German manufacturing plant with Japanese rebadging
@jerrybarrax56183 жыл бұрын
@@leewarner9357 But apparently without the excellent reliability that people expect from Japanese brands.
@VG22.3 жыл бұрын
I love this car... the imperfections make it perfect for a reliable weekend toy and it looks pretty. JDM pretty
@reynoldsaristeia62603 жыл бұрын
I have to say that comparing to the previous two videos of the 370Z I love this one the most. I understand it might've been a bit of a tough cookie at first as it's like a jack of all trades, doing exactly nothing well. Like taking your Altima to a race track. However, it's a tuner's car. Like an entry level to the scene so to say, without getting too serious about it. - It's got the power to take a lap fast with the appropriate suspension. Its steering can be sharpened with proper bushings. With upgraded cooling it can also handle the track driving, but will it ever be a C5/C6 Z06? Never. It's an intermediate car that's not easy, nor too hard, but it can pick up a challenge with the appropriate modifications. - Thank you Mark and Mr. Goose for a very good debate at the end of the video. In my opinion it nailed why this car splits the people who drive it and the community surrounding it very well. It's an acquired taste and it takes a few attempts to "understand" why it has its following. There's more potential to unlock without engine mods than in many other cars. Just out of the box "it isn't quite there yet".
@aaronbryan50953 жыл бұрын
Nissan have a habit of skimping things here there with their performance cars, for example the Silvias and the hot hatch versions of the Pulsat out of the box pretty much share the same deficiencies as the 350/370z, stock bushings and suspension tuning make them feel a bit clumsy and disconnected when driving at 10/10, many of them have open diffs from the factory and the LSD from the factory on top trim models is just a crummy viscous LSD because they are dirt cheap(S15 spec r is an exception though, it got a helical gear type LSD).
@nismomr28132 жыл бұрын
I've owned a 2015 nismo for 2 years now and i think the point about the steering wheel feeling numb in this video is mostly due to winter tires. Mine feels precise and very responsive. Also, the comparison to V8 is US specific. In Europe, we don't have access to cheap V8 like Mustang or Camaro.
@davidkelley7513 жыл бұрын
The 350z and 370z have already become the new 240. A great platform to turn into a drift car, stance car, or just an enthusiast car.
@joanortagus6596 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 250Z Touring model and the 2016 Nismo stick shift and this car is freakin awesum. In fact my tag says AWESUM Z. The Nismo is my 5th Z car over the years. and it's the BOMB>
@SicSemperBeats3 жыл бұрын
Never had too much trouble with lsds on VQ cars just always wished nissan kinda pushed the 370z a little harder near the end. Honestly a factory supercharger thats not aiming super high would have been amazing. I think the perfectly modded Z’s are 4-500 supercharged or single turbo with good suspension. Would have been nice to see nissan do that on a special edition. Like the extremely rare G35 Stillen edition you could buy that no one remembers
@tone35603 жыл бұрын
Its a clutch style lsd....so you get them hot they slip so inconsistency. Need a quaife or wavetec with a mechanical lsd for consistent lock up
@hattorihongzo7 ай бұрын
Maybe an unpopular opinion but, I think the 370Z styling is better than the new Z.
@CTR_Dan3 жыл бұрын
Ngl the exterior and overall silhouette has aged well
@EmSeeMAC3 жыл бұрын
The car looks absolutely gorgeous to this day
@joelmaynard75423 жыл бұрын
As an owner of two Z's, currently own a '15 Nismo 370z. I have to say I love this car! It's not perfect but I think it looks awesome! Love the Recaro seats and with a few upgrades and a tune... she's still a hell of a car.
@manveerghuman52763 жыл бұрын
Don't let anyone think otherwise, it's a used car bargain, and all American counterparts will be in the scrapyard well before it gives out.
@nsnv5 ай бұрын
Think im gonna get a 370Z for my next car, when my 06 G35 coupe gets older
@stevee83183 жыл бұрын
Is that the same manual shift knob that's in the base versa? Interior is really underwhelming for the price. At least you get a CD player though, lol!
@asifalimirza3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Nissan fan, but this is beautifully designed car, although I hate that fake engine sound they pump into the cabin. If I were to buy it, I would buy it used, and I would buy it over an American muscle car because frankly, it's not always about power, as I watch my neighbors kid plunge his Mustang GT into my other neighbors wall
@l00tur3 жыл бұрын
Lol I have the same shift knob in my 2007 Nissan Xterra. This episode had me laughing like an idiot in my office, thanks guys! Lol
@thirstypilgrim973 жыл бұрын
I think I hear Jayztwocents throwing old video cards at his computer screen
@leewarner93573 жыл бұрын
Sterling Pilgrim, oh I am quite sure of this. He loves old school non aspirated cars. It’s real raw HP built in the motor, not a add on turbo to do it
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
The 370Z is what built the after market Z community. Long in the tooth and not all too competitive with modern offerings, yet it still provides a level of performance for price and personality that is satisfactory to non-hard core buyers. Like truly there’s a point where buyers are like “okay, thats enough” and 370Zs hit that early. Equally when someone thinks about building up a car in with little trouble, or shooting for serious capability with little concern for loss, Z car baby.
@ricardoallen7863 жыл бұрын
Level of performance for price? It costs on par or more than american sports cars, with like a hundred less horsepower
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoallen786 i should mention “used” and specifically tuned 370Z. Like the Z’s offer a lot of performance for cheap used and are capable of a ton of performance tuned. Thats not to say that comparative cars do not offer such as well, but simply that the Z’s hit that threshold throughout their production run, and are a solid choice through and through
@ricardoallen7863 жыл бұрын
@@air-headedaviator1805 - I agree it is a solid choice, I owned a g35 at one point and liked it. If someones dead set on a tuner Japanese sports car, the only 2 highly available choices are nissans VQ cars and a honda s2k. Those people really should test drive a V8 american car though. Nowadays you cant do much better than a mustang or camaro with limited money, I mean around 10 grand will get you over 400 american horses stock. Also I know looks are subjective, but except for the taillights a 2012 gt mustang looks better than a Z. Except for the back end mind you, but the front of a Z looks like a catfish so its a wash.
@mrnicktoyou3 жыл бұрын
These two hosts are like watching the car versions of Yammie Noob and Spike, lol.
@swpdisciple3 жыл бұрын
This is on my radar for sure. Like Mark said, in 10 years this will be a pseudo classic and have tons of charm. I’d add, this would be perfect for an enthusiast that has a modern daily to pair with it, like a solid SUV or crossover. Great counterpoint to each other.
@swpdisciple3 жыл бұрын
@Bucky Fiden so you’re a Nissan guy...nice. I like the idea of a sports car/truck pairing
@devlad3 жыл бұрын
Love mine. Especially with some aftermarket goodies. I've been meaning to sell it for a couple of years, but I just can't.
@Goated4833 жыл бұрын
It’s all about perspective
@alexmobil74633 жыл бұрын
The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.
@lajlijthoj3 жыл бұрын
Previous owner of MY2014 base with sport package. Basically, besides the fuel pump/starvation and CSC issues, the 2014+ model had most issues fixed and was the one to get for less headaches. Also, everything they say is pretty spot on. The 370Z is a 7/10ths car, '$20k car', gears are clunky in comparison to others etc. It's far from the best dd and just slightly below the competition when properly classed.
@aaronbryan50953 жыл бұрын
Sadly, there are too many blind ass Nissan fanboys in the comments to understand and accept this review.
@ronallen813 жыл бұрын
That sound on acceleration is just like the horrible vacuum on gran turismo 1
@Dowlphin3 жыл бұрын
We could be cynical and theorize that they wanted to market this based on the games. Like, people know the sound from them and then they tried to recreate that 'iconic' experience with the real car.