Nissan Leaf Budget Battery Upgrade [ZE0, 24kWh-30kWh]

So here it is. Extreme Budget Battery Upgrade. This time my company car, the ZE0 Leaf, gets a fresher 2017 AZE0 30kWh batterypack. This video is not a complete step-by-step video, (there are already great videos on this subject, see EVs Enhanced video for instance) but this video will give you the basic info needed when doing a budget battery upgrade using Dala's CAN-bridge solution.
CAUTION: Always check your local legislation for what certifications are required when handling high voltage (the bright orange bits!). Failure to comply with safety standards could result in serious injury/death. And nobody wants that!
Service plug, incase new battery is missing it (297C1-3NF0A),
Rear-bolts (01125-N0111),
Brackets, if you don't want to drill the old ones (740D0-3NF1A)
Cost breakdown for budget DIY solution
3472€ - 30kWh battery from 2017 Leaf
450€ - CAN-bridge with battery upgrade software
0€ - 36-pin B24 connector (reused salvaged stump)
0€ - HV Heater dummy plug (reused salvage stump)
0€ - Work, free since DIY
+1800€ - Re-sold 24kWh pack for secondlife storage
TOTAL COST: 2122€
Huge thanks to all Patreon supporters for making this video possible. If you like what you see, and want more, consider hopping over to my Patreon page and becoming a supporter: / dala
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B24 wiring diagram, in case you have a B24 stump to re-use: github.com/dal...

[@dougabbott8261]

Compare the cost of your upgrade to the cost of Nissan Leaf battery replacement and the difference is massive. There are so many first generation Leafs with failing batteries this is a really good video and I must say your English is also very good , much better than my Finnish.

[@timothykeith1367]

I might buy an older Leaf if improved batteries were available at much lower prices. Maybe in a decade that will be the case.

[@JK360noscope]

​@timothykeith1367 leafs will all be gone by then man, things have been grabbed like candy by the battery recyclers

[@theshawltyone]

I found one for $1900. 2011, 33 miles of range

[@MrGordy6040]

@@dougabbott8261 just looked at the price of going g from a 24 to 40 kwhr batter for a leaf and it’s 7000€ . Would be about that to get a car with that battery already in it

[@robertpryor7225]

We need more of this, it's shame for an old EV to go to the junkyard just because it needs a battery.

[@GrahamRead101]

@Krazy Kanuck 1) electric cars are not 8x dirtier to produce, they are roughly the same in as an ice car in-terms of body shell. the electric motor Motor is much less dirtier than an ice engine. The lithium batteries have a mining impact but then petrol also requires mined rare earths to refine - and they are used once rather than reused many times for a battery. EV batteries also have a second life as storage units. So the 8x premise is simply false. 2) how dirty a countries electricity grid is will, of course, impact how “clean” an ev car is to refuel. Many grids are getting much cleaner very quickly, the U.K. grid for example already runs at about 35% renewable power. It’s largely down to politics and will.

[@GrahamRead101]

@Krazy Kanuck sad but true, the current federal government hasn’t yet woken up to the shear cost benefit advantage of renewables; ignoring any environmental advantage. Fortunately the us devolved state system has other ideas. One day it’ll come around.

[@kingprone7846]

it was planned by nissan

[@Chris-yy7qc]

​@Krazy Kanuck Youre right. The sheer Production of a 100 kwh Battery causes 20 t CO2 emission. Thats the same amount of CO2 an average petrol car emits during 120.000 km / 75.000 miles of driving. But thats just for producing the battery. Supplying the energy to charge the cars also cause big ammounts of CO2 emissions. After use (or second life) its cheaper to make new lithium cells than to recycle the old ones. So the cells are not being recycled but instead theyre burned in big ovens, which releases lots of CO2 and other hazardous emissions. And so on. Electric cars with lithium batteries are not environmental friendly at all. Sadly its meaningless to start a arguement with all those green fanatics, since theyre too convinced of their "religion" to think about and try to understand your point. As we saw above, they dont understand what you said but call you stupid instead.

[@joeaverager]

@Krazy Kanuck And nuclear, and hydro, and wind and solar and pumped hydro storage...

[@twoshedsjackson6478]

I love the "don't throw this in your wheelie bin" sticker on the 300Kg battery pack.

[@sebastien4565]

That's the Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment Directive logo.

[@ajwitt7472]

It's great to see how modular simple EVs like the Leaf are. With so little else to go wrong it should be possible to run a Leaf for decades with a battery swap every ten years or so.

[@04dram04]

Thats not saying much, considering the cost to swap the battery would cost more that the repairs of a ICE car

[@MrRasZee]

@@04dram04 😭😭🤣😂

[@ralphinator2]

Too bad they are so ugly. They should have made them look similar to the Altima.

[@18avshalom]

@@ralphinator2 you should check out the Renault Fluence Z.E. Carlos Ghosn had a hand in building that and the LEAF.

[@katydid5088]

Tip, Get heat shrink tubing after you rewrap the newly soldered connector. Slip the tubing over the cables newly soldered connector and shrink with a heat gun. While electrical tape is undoubtly sturdy you can make the job look neater with less chances of things rattling apart if you use heat shrink. It is definitely fiddly but worth the extra effort to prevent the car from accidentally disconnecting when you are using it down the road.

[@Alan_UK]

Thank you for this video. Always good to see vehicles being kept on the road, especially EVs. I was surprised that the old batteries sold for 1800€ but very helpful to the customer - almost reduced the price by half :)

[@pau1phi11ips]

Used EV batteries make great home solar storage batteries

[@toyotaboyhatman]

You are a god.. this is the news I've been waiting for to start looking seriously at a used leaf.

[@evsolar]

Man, I feel like it's time for me as well. Lost one more bar yesterday. Now down at 64% SOH. For me the range is enough, but the Fast charging only works at full speed until 25%. After that it's only around 20kW.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Do it! You know where to get a CAN-bridge ;)

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

I dream of the day I load in the 62 kWh pack :)

[@DalasEVRepair]

Just let me know when you get one and need a CAN-bridge ;)

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

Daniel Öster - from what I hear they command a high price for the 62 :) they are hard to get :) if I do I’ll certainly buy the bridge from you :)

[@Eternal_Lens_Media]

@@DalasEVRepair yes once the prices come down I want to swap a 60 into my 2015

[@IDann1]

Robert Llewellyn from fully charged is replacing his 2011 leaf with newish 40kWh 🔋 battery from Amsterdam. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKKzd2RnhdKDbs0

[@austrobok2958]

@@IDann1 He did, but that cost him something like £8,000!

[@SilverShadow2LWB]

Amazing video. Very well explained and video'd. I don't even own a Leaf, but the topic was of interest since I have an electric vehicle. These are the mechanics of the future. In the old days it was a good find to know a shop who knew Weber carburetors, now we need to find good custom battery shops. Keep up the good work.

[@szymon6207]

14:53 startup

[@stevejordan7275]

2:25 Important safety tip! Always wear goggles to protect your glasses from falling dirt. Seriously, this is a good idea for those of us who are not naturally endowed with spectacles.

[@refugiopoint]

what a stud, great skills, I've had four Nissan Leafs that were leases, you see very few of them on the road anymore for this very reason, they were the most reliable cars we've ever had, but the batteries suck.....hopefully folks can continue to rack up miles now that we have videos like this available!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thank you! And yes, these cars are bulletproof with a good battery installed!

[@lelandhetrick205]

@@DalasEVRepair Right about bulletproof. I have a 2015 trim S 24 kwh pack @ 12 bars. Odometer reading 108,500+ miles. 60 mile roundtrip work commute that includes 60% freeway (60 mph). Live in the greater Seattle, Washington area is a mild climate contributes greatly to the battery pack's longevity. Also, I drive in ECO mode nearly 100% of the time.

[@ericwalker2434]

Amazing job! I wish that i had a quick charge port, however without it I do not see such an upgrade as a worthy investment

[@krisdphillips]

You can replace the plug and inverter module on your Leaf from a salvaged unit just fine.

[@ElektromobilTV]

great info !

[@financialsombrero9097]

Great job Daniel. When I had this same upgrade I also was able to utilize 12 bars. However, after 2 years it dropped backed down to 11. I hope your 12 bars last longer than mine. Good luck.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yeah, fingers crossed! In these cold climates the Leaf batteries last way longer!

[@heinrichmelker3982]

where can i buy such a battery pack? can't find one in the internet.

[@compu85]

Amazing the salvage yard just cut through the high voltage cabling. Good thing the contractors work!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yeah it is a disaster waiting to happen, one day if they encounter a salvage vehicle with welded contactors!

[@compu85]

@@DalasEVRepair Do you have problems with the contractors in packs from crashed cars? I imagine they don’t like being opened under load.

[@gregseeto2661]

I pop

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@compu85 They can withstand some beating for sure. And if I ever encounter a welded set, I have spares that can be installed.

[@PeterFriedland]

Very good job !! My 2012 Leaf is in my shop waiting for rejuvenation .... I’ll have to start trolling junkyards for a wrecked 2017 Leaf

[@m1geo]

Useful & informative video. Thanks!

[@Knsoftusa]

I need to replace battery on 2013 nissan leaf

[@s1382]

Very well made professional video. Thanks.

[@kf-davies7633]

I Like the way you do things .. "Keep it simple but get it done"

[@computerbob06]

A great video, although the one thing that I fear with cars is auto electrics, so it's beyond me! I was wondering if there is a way of having a tank of liquid in the boot/trunk, to pipe cooled/warmed liquid around the battery? Thinking you could warm the battery when 10 mins away from the next rapid charger to precondition it for charging or cool it when it's hot?

[@DalasEVRepair]

The battery already has heat-elements inside it, actually working on figuring out how to trigger these on demand...

[@dinobravaty1945]

Im very interested please help me im desperate

[@AdrianJMidgley]

Really interesting but music hugely annoying.

[@richardwallinger1683]

excellent .. I have a 2011 redundant r/h drive Nissan Leaf with 32,000 km total . The maths say it would be cost effective to source a later 30kwh pack . or maybe just sell it on . I have a small ICE car which is my go to transport .

[@car6on14]

great vid, can you recommend a website with specifics on the removal and install for the battery and more on the compatibility?, have done engine swaps looking forward to doing a battery swap!

[@DalasEVRepair]

All batteries work. It is just the 62kWh that requires more effort in the form of spacers & beefed up suspension. See this video for mechanical diffs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqHKp2CajpKkbK8 See this for lifting out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d53bq5-HnNSpi6M

[@jenkinseric2]

great video. I would like it more without the music. thanks for making this

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks, I noticed this also that the music got repetitive (and too loud). Will fix to next video!

[@mafitavo6739]

Thank you for this. If you were here in NZ you’d make a killing. EV “repair” companies are charging from 25k upwards to 40k NZD to replace a battery. But it’s clear now, these companies are just ripping people off. Cheaper to buy a new/used EV than get the battery replaced.

[@janbrida7384]

Great video. Long time thinking to buy leaf and this helps a lot to know that upgrade is not so difficult. Could you recommend where to buy battery pack for replacement?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Depends where you are located :) I only know sources in Scandinavia!

[@WizardCloud-xg6rj]

Quick question, is there any disadvantage to removing the high voltage heater connection?

[@DalasEVRepair]

On the old LEAF, the heater is taken from the primary high voltage cable. No downside at all!

[@bougie2k]

in spain they upgrade the 24 kw to 40 kw , in the 24 kw package you remove the low battery cell and you can add more battery cel up to 40 kw , good video

[@xad9057]

How much does that 24 to 40kwh upgrade cost in Spain? Or even the 24 to 30kwh upgrade?

[@bougie2k]

I think thé price start at 5000 € . You dont need to go spain . You send thé battery and thé return to you upgraded

[@keithlatty]

Brilliant Job!

[@VasuPrimlani]

Hi Dala, I do need a CAN bridge and adapter cable in the US. Let me know what to please? Thank you!

[@BrBill]

Thank you so much for all you've done for the rest of the Leaf world.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thank you, and this is just the beginning :)

[@BrBill]

@@DalasEVRepair Your efforts will likely make it possible for me to get a 40kWh pack into my 2011 Leaf next year. That's a big deal to me.

[@gelisob]

Mr. Daniel is clearly a liberal person, using the word "simply" so liberally :P I would like to list here several steps that will not go so simply for many, specially for high mileage car that has lived outside a lot. 1. the underbelly protective plastic covers - many of the plastic stud clips may refuse to come off in one piece, several 10mm bolts may decide to break instead of unscrewing. 2. battery connectors - those "just twist" and "just press" steps, will go easier now that you have visual aid, but those can take up to half an our of messing around to get them loose without breaking anything. And that was under a lifted car where you can stand, will be a lot harder on your back with very little room. 3. battery bolts - while you attempt to "simply break" them loose, you may meet a lot of resistance to your bolt liberation attempts and end up with, for example, two bolts coming off and taking the inbody nut with them, forcing you to anglegrind the bolts off, fishing the loose nut parts from inside body frame tubes and figuring out how to get new nuts in there. Or maybe i was very unlucky? :) But be warned, when or if you have limited time in a garage you might rent for it or so. Good overall video otherwise :)

[@macmaniacal]

I've heard this too often. Then people sell their projects in a basket. Don't get discouraged because it's harder than it looks. Life is like that.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Absolutely! I've done way too many upgrades now, so it doesn't feel that big of a task. A video done by a complete newbie would be amazing to watch :D

[@gelisob]

@@macmaniacal it wasnt for discouragement, it was for better preparation and for setting more accurate expectations to oneself :) Also lowering the battery is quite tricky without proper tools, Daniel didnt go into much detail about what he used there in this video. If you have a car lift, it's a bit easyer. Lift car, put pallets under, lower car, release bolts, lift car.

[@sonyb9125]

@@DalasEVRepair Great video Daniel. You are my hero. Was just thinking to do the same but don't have tools to lower and put back the battery. Please tell us what you used for this job. Thx.

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@sonyb9125 I used 2x floor jacks and a roller to move it around. It can be done with extremely basic tools!

[@RWBHere]

Thanks Daniel. Very informative and useful information. Wishing you the best EVing. 😉👍

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thank you 😁

[@IDann1]

“Nice” 😎

[@jonkelly7908]

Interestingly you publish this on the same week that Musk says that the next Tesla will have the batteries built into the structure to reduce weight and build cost. Also making them impossible to replace.

[@Wookey.]

The batteries will be structural but that's not the same as unreplaceable. We await engineering details but I expect it will still be possible (maybe harder) to remove/replace them. Replacing individual cells in a pack may well be virtually impossible

[@bikerdog2b]

The Tesla batteries last 2 million miles or about 3,500,000km though

[@joeaverager]

@@bikerdog2b They DO or they WILL? Just curious...

[@geoffroberts1126]

@@bikerdog2b At what capacity? 50%? 40?

[@bikerdog2b]

@@geoffroberts1126 www.electrive.com/2020/10/19/tesla-researchers-present-battery-with-2-million-mile-lifecycle/. the article does not state the degradation of the battery only that it would do 10,000 cycles at 0-100% discharge rate. while a 0-80% discharge at 15,000 cycles would not degrade the battery significantly.

[@filipegoncalves8957]

Thank you for the great video. I'm also very interested in the second life of the battery. Can it be adapted to store energy at home, integrated with solar panels?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes! That is what most of my customers do!

[@computerbob06]

Although, because they're Japanese, All Leaf's have been built to be able to act as a power store for the house and then send the electricity back to the house in the event of a power cut! Robert Llewelyn has equipped his house with the tech needed for this.

[@buixote]

@@computerbob06 The only gizmo I've found in the US for this comes from Setek Power. It creates *single-phase* 220, and needs 2013 Leaf, at minimum (though the Chademo is common to previous model years, there's some other technical hitch... also, it's not usable with *other Chademos*, like the Soul EV... evsiphon.com in San Diego CA is importing these units)

[@Offgridhomestead77]

Thanks to your videos I learned how to change out weak modules in my 2012 leaf. And I looking to change out the all modules with better soh ones in the future.

[@tucsonor]

Nice video. I have swapped battery in my 2012 to a 40kWh with the use of a gateway from an other supplier. Your sollution seem a bit better/cleaner as it has the GW inside the car, and also, you provide some upgraded functions. Such as "rapidgate" fix. Keep up the good work, I will for sure go for your sollution if I make an other swap in an other car.

[@xabizar]

Could you tell me who that other supplier is and the price for the gateway?

[@tucsonor]

@@xabizar ​ ve.simonandre.ca/leaf-2/. It works fine, and good support. But I like this Suomi solution as it have the gateway in the car. And if it really were needed, I could drive 750km from my home in Norway to Vasa. and have Daniel to sort out what I might not manage my self. Canada to far away! But I have had good support thou from remote connection, so my solution works well. Going from 15kWh (In the old battery) to 36kWh net capacity made so the old 2012 became a new car. Recommended if you have the possibility.

[@luzfuturelectricistasautor2134]

Hi from spain you are genius! thanks for the video. Can i ask you something pleasse i have got a kangoo Ze 2013 with 22kw i would like to update for 33kw , do i need can bridge ? or just it´s for leaf? in that case can you tell me how ... i am a bit stock many thanks for the video !

[@DalasEVRepair]

I have no clue about how the Renaults work yet, sorry!

[@B2C2007]

Dala - do you think it is possible to repair the main battery socket RCS800 without splitting the pack? I saw that someone de-pinned the two conductors but I know there's a third connector somewhere too. Connector damage is common (video idea?) - especially because they are made of chocolate!!

[@DalasEVRepair]

I would open the battery to be able to do it properly!

[@B2C2007]

@@DalasEVRepair You always tell it "as it is"! Thank you.

[@B2C2007]

@@DalasEVRepair Last question - what sealant do you use to reseal the packs these days? Nissan OEM is out of stock - is there another trade secret to use?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@B2C2007 I used a locally sourced "Sikaflex 221" which is a 1-component polyurethane sealant!

[@B2C2007]

@@DalasEVRepair Thank you Dala. Massively reassuring to know what you're using. I think I will practice cutting nozzles and laying triangular beads before I put this anywhere near my ENV case!

[@phantasyenterprise]

Just got a 2012 nissan leaf. Looking to get more range out of it. Can we chat ?

[@michealbawiise8703]

Hey, that was smooth upgrade 👌 I can use your help to upgrade mine 2012 Nissan Leaf battery. Current capacity is only 3 bars. 😢

[@jr-pl9kj]

trying to find and get that can bridge chip is like being Indiana jones looking for the ark of the covenant, i cant find it anywhere. it would be nice if it was available for purchase on ebay.

[@DalasEVRepair]

It has to be compiled custom for each vehicle id, that is why it's not sold by the bulk. Shoot me an email if you need one

[@danieleriksson3170]

3500+500+1800=€5800? What's wrong in my calculation? I cant get it to €2200.. ah.. end of video shows you sold first one.. :)

[@kacenk4]

-1800€ :-)

[@geoffroberts1126]

@@kacenk4 Yikes, it's like an engine and gearbox rebuild. Too expensive.

[@ericbeckner6959]

The high voltage gloves are supposed to only be used with leather over gloves.

[@dgroberts100]

This looks really very easy, as long as you have access to the lifting gear. Well done for putting this out there. Of course the main obstacle is fnding a used 30kwh pack. A quick look on ebay and...zilch. Lots of individual modles though. How feasible is it fo identify failing cells in the pack and swap these out with good ones? My 2011 leaf is on 10 bars, it would be good enough just to have the option to replace the problem cells and get that back to 12 bars. How feasible is that though?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Usually not worth the effort. You'll need to adhere to local legislation for working on high voltage systems.Good quality cells are expensive, and all that effort will be close to what an actual upgrade would cost. Go for a 30/40kWh pack instead!

[@jasonpaulwhiting]

@@DalasEVRepair

[@jasonpaulwhiting]

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[@katydid5088]

@@DalasEVRepair Second this. You have to go through, charge and then balance the battery pack. If you are desperately short on money and knew enough about electronics to do that (while incurring all the risks that go with it) It MIGHT be worth it but you have to drive the car as a patch, i.e you are going to get it fixed within a week and not for very long. At that point because you have already disassembled and taken apart the pack once, it's only really conceivable when the car is worth nothing because now you have to do the labor all over again. TLDR; Get the battery pack replaced and recycle the old one OR turn it into something else. There is no point in trying to swap single cells as the risk of failure or continued battery degradation is more exspensive than replacing a battery pack once.

[@aljudy01]

The problem here is finding a reasonably priced 2nd hand battery. There is very high demand, and not much supply as they all come from written off cars

[@michaelblosser2455]

What is a CAN BRIDGE? On these DIY vids there is always something they give a generic label to that makes it useless.

[@pierrickmiston3702]

I got lost at Can Bridge Installation :(

[@DalasEVRepair]

Don't worry, I will do a step-by-step exclusively for the CAN-bridge part soon! The CAN-bridge in a nutshell converts the CAN-data for the newer pack to the older style format so the vehicle can understand it. It also tricks the vehicle that the old battery ID is present.

[@oranjeboomic969]

@@DalasEVRepair amazing work

[@doughyun3428]

Please, you say use appropriate equipment to lower the battery. Why why why don't you show what you are using what is it? Looks like a custom cradle with a floor jack

[@DalasEVRepair]

I cant speak for the whole world, required gear will vary depending on country. Maybe you want the Finnish "sallittu nostolaite" regulations? 😂

[@rnca27]

Can you do an I3 upgrade?

[@DalasEVRepair]

First pilot upgrade this winter (if everything goes well!)

[@arturomoises8427]

HI, I loved your video!!! How do I get the can bridge? Can I see pictures of it? How much is it for a whole kit?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hop on to dalasevrepair.fi for more info!

[@jonmalco3]

How can I get my old 2012 leaf batter replaced? I live in south korea

[@user-ys3dj9tt3e]

Hi Daniel , my job 40kWh on Zeo 19.10.2020 🤝

[@DalasEVRepair]

Nice work!

[@pashko90]

Your can bus bridges are junk! You cant fix your own mistakes, Rinat!

[@kloneypl]

hardest part seems to be sourcing new battery

[@pirujasinc]

Hi, great channel, i admire your work and passion. i want to do a battery swap between a 2013 24kw and 2016 30kw, the 2016 is in worst condition, its posible the change of the batterys? Do i need anything else or Just is a plug and play action,

[@DalasEVRepair]

Plug and play!

[@rackets001]

So after all that work, your total range on a full charge is only about 100 miles (170km)?! Yeesh! I guess that won't work where I live where everything is 40 to 50 miles apart! I'd be suffering with constant dead battery anxiety every time I left the house!

[@DalasEVRepair]

This was 4 years ago. The latest 62kWh upgrade gives 300km+ range

[@VoltronPimp]

nice video, i am in the research phase of planning to convert my classic vw bus to EV using a wrecked Leaf. most of the leafs i find are in the 7 bar battery range, which is okay to get it up and running. however; i would like to upgrade the battery shortly after completing the conversion. this was very informative and i plan on buying the connector converter and can bridge when the time comes.

[@francoisguyot9770]

Very interesting, but the background music is killing me. it's hard to focus on what you say... How did you upgrade the CAN bridge? Or did it come already pre-installed upon purchase?

[@DalasEVRepair]

All CAN bridge flashing instructions are here: github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-LEAF-Battery-Upgrade

[@smoothvelvetsinger]

Very good. I would imagine having access to a reasonable battery replacement is the key to having your low maintenance EV run forever.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yeah I'd estimate this 30kWh pack to last 10+years now!

[@Motomurphy]

thank you for all your work on nissan leaf!

[@DaylightRob210]

Excellent - very clear indeed. Thanks

[@scottiethomas3038]

I have a 2012 nissan leaf sv trim it only charges to 27 miles with all its bars still showing and I have a problem with my 110 charging cord it keeps throwing my gfci breaker any clue what's going on with it also the car has 88,000 miles thank you for your time scottie

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hop on the mynissanleaf.com forum

[@markusr1308]

How much are replacement batteries (in the US)? I have the option to buy a 2011 with dead batteries for $1500 or a 2017 with good battery for $4500.

[@josephanthony9294]

Great Video, shows that battery upgrading is very feasible. Do all leafs require the CAN Bridge or only 2011 -13?

[@DalasEVRepair]

For battery upgrades CAN bridges are needed for all generations!

[@josephanthony9294]

@@DalasEVRepair Thank you

[@colinburgess7728]

Great video. Explains everything perfectly PLEASE get rid of that AWFUL music. You have no idea what it does to a musician’s ears😮

[@s.uduwaka]

Hello sir I have a 2012 leaf and in the battery there are only 2 plugs. In the new battery there are 3. And do i need to do any software modifications after the replacement from 25kwh to 30kwh battery? TIA

[@DalasEVRepair]

All explained here: github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-LEAF-Battery-Upgrade/wiki

[@geoffroberts1126]

And this is why electrics aren't popular in regional Australia, it's 225km to the capital city from here. Leaf will only go 130km or so without a recharge that takes hours, oh and there's nowhere to recharge it between here and Adelaide.

[@DalasEVRepair]

I visited the beautiful city of Adelaide last year. Out of curiosity i opened the Plugshare app, which shows the amount of public charging spots. It was a shock to see that a city with 1.2M inhabitants had less charging spots compared to an european small city of 65k people. You Australians have quite the road to reach European charging standards. In EU, there are so many charging places that you can easily cope with a range limited EV.

[@geoffroberts1126]

@@DalasEVRepair thanks for the tip on plugshare, didn't know that existed. There's exactly zero charge stations between here and Adelaide, some 225km. There's apparently one here (which I must take a look at) and in the 540km between Port Augusta and Coober Pedy, just one at Glendambo (roadhouse has a generator). Nothing between them but miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles. Completely unlike Europe, huge distances and very little in between. The Entire UK and all of Europe fits in Australia roughly twice over.

[@austrobok2958]

@@geoffroberts1126 Oz is Tesla country, not Leaf country, it's far too big and hot.

[@geoffroberts1126]

@@austrobok2958 Not really even Tesla country once you get clear of the cities. No charging stations for hundreds of km and usually just one outlet. Useless. And 45c summers kill batteries, plus you really need AC which kills it even quicker.

[@edwardozuna6706]

i just purchased a nissa leaf 2013 with 95k miles how much would it cost me to change the battery for a higher voltage and longer miles?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Depends where you live. Near Norway you can get batteries very cheaply!

[@johnhanssenkolstad211]

WHat would happen if one was to just plug the new battery in without the CAN bridge? Will things work, but the range displayed be wrong, or what would happen?

[@DalasEVRepair]

The vehicle wont go into ready mode, the messages are not close enough to start.

[@anahi5979]

Hi good day Its very good video I have Nissan leaf 2015 its 9bar i hope from you can provide me from where I can buy new cell and molding to change the old i hope from you help me i am from Jordan thank you ❤️

[@DalasEVRepair]

No clue where to buy batteries in Jordan, but I can always get you a CAN-bridge kit!

[@anahi5979]

@@DalasEVRepair thank you Daniel you are very good man. This is my WhatsApp [phone] my name is Mahmoud

[@anahi5979]

Did you can send to me your WhatsApp please

[@anahi5979]

Did you prefer the old set or new set and what the price

[@Patchworkdaddy007]

Oh you a genius!👍👍👍👍👍😎

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks 😁

[@BrixtonBananas]

any resources you know of to find this service in california? cheers.

[@DalasEVRepair]

This map should help nissanleafbatteryreplacement.com/

[@gordondaniels9718]

superb attention to detail excellent

[@AlexMiller-lg5pf]

There are companies that have long range batteries....

[@dbtbandit6722]

Just bought a preowned 2014 Nissan Leaf and the battery is in the crapper. Where do you find the replacement batteries?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Scrapyards!

[@18avshalom]

I have a question not explained in the video. Do the two small wires in the PTC connector need to be present and connected together or can they be removed and the cavities filled with silicone?

[@DalasEVRepair]

The small wires do not need to be present. Completely OK to just fill the entire connector with silicone!

[@colinburgess7728]

Where can one buy a new battery deliverable to Portugal?

[@dinobravaty1945]

As far as purchasing the upgrade where may i get more info

[@DalasEVRepair]

Www.dalasevrepair.fi

[@PathumChathuranga]

Hi dala I have 2013 nissan leaf 24kw I can get 100km. Can I upgrade 30 or 40 kw battery and what I need to replace components? Thanks

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hi! If you have the white interior it is all explained in the video (battery, b24 adapter, can bridge). For the dark interior AZE0, no B24 adapter is needed!

[@PathumChathuranga]

@@DalasEVRepair hi dala After I replace battery how can I program new battery BSM without nissan consult? How much is can bridge? No need to replace PDM?

[@davidcao5423]

Hat tip to 'Jack up the car' comment.

[@johnpett8241]

Very clever! Well done Herra!!

[@dazt103]

Great video. Very impressive. Presumably, this upgrade could also be done to a Nissan E-NV200?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes! Have 3x customers that did a diy 24-40kWh already!

[@derocklong5122]

This may be a dumb question but can you just replace a few cell modules in the pack? Would that work for a while?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Cell replacements can bring back a few % of range, but require lots of time, skill and is considerably riskier than a complete pack upgrade

[@johnsmith-sp6yl]

how is the battery holding up after two years? i'm considering getting one, but the price of a new battery has been dissuading me until now.

[@DalasEVRepair]

This battery lost 1.8% per year, the newer 40/62kWh packs are even better when it comes to retaining capacity!

[@ct4cf]

I usually run vehement thru a manual wand carwash b4 doing wk. I concentrate on brake dust, dirt& grime removal. It makes the wk easier.

[@ElizabethThompson-se9tf]

If you don't mind me asking sir were you replacing a part or were you upgrading or just tweaking your charger there in the beginning of the video

[@DalasEVRepair]

Tweaking an openEVSE unit!

[@ВасилийВасильевич-у2п]

Moscow with you. Thank you

[@neyomalwijesundara9337]

Good explanation

[@egn83b]

The biggest upgrade to those cars would be a battery fan and ac duct for summer time to keep temps down.

[@TheMamytwink]

Merci pour votre vidéo 👍 continuer

[@RamonInOrlando]

Awesome video!!!! The problem here in Florida, United States is to find a battery. Mine is only 7 bars. Keep it up with the great work. Best regards, from Orlando Florida USA

[@InnovativeSustainableSolutions]

The supply of new, or lightly degraded batteries is going to peter out rapidly here in the next years. Leaf sales have been on a sharp decline globally for the last year, and as Nissan shifts it's focus to it's electric SUV (the Ariya), the expectation is for Nissan to discontinue the Leaf all-together. If we want to keep these 500k vehicles usable and on the road, the task will fall to us DIYers to find some other means to add power than "simply" finding another like new battery.

[@RamonInOrlando]

@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Big fan of your Channel here, I was not expecting you to answer. Totally agree, batteries are really hard to find. Is a shame that Nissan supports this consumerist disposable car society and they are not the only ones. I love the hard work you put in your Sun-Eater, but my thinking is that the solar array/batteries/inverter/etc... will cost about the same that a new battery and I am leaning towards the battery at this point. Granted I can probably reuse the solar system, but here in Florida they make it hard for us homeowners to do solar at home, even worst with homeowners association. Other consideration is that my car only cost me 4k around 2 years ago and I use this 50% repair/replace rule below: artoftroubleshooting.com/2014/04/25/the-50-percent-rule-repair-or-replace-revisited/ With that getting a battery should only cost around 2k given the car has not incur in any depreciation, which is not realistic. But I will not give up in my green effort. My next car will also be electric. I just hope my Leaf can hold a bit longer until the pre-ordered Cybertruck arrives. Otherwise I will have to figure what to get in the interim or change the battery for the Leaf to keep using it. I am also a DIY guy that have some electronics/computers background, but age is a factor and dealing with this heavy battery replacement is something that I am thinking about. Lets see what the future brings. Best regards, facebook.com/ramoninorlando

[@osimmac]

@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions yes, and there's no reason why the leaf can't be expanded to have a bigger battery, it has 3 numbers to display the range haha. i checked the dimensions and it would be easy to fit 2 layers of teslas new battery cell inside a nissan leaf pack :D

[@InnovativeSustainableSolutions]

@@osimmac I dream of getting my hands on a pallet of 4680 cells. But I really don't think Tesla is going to sell them. They are insanely protective of their parts. They literally wouldn't sell Rich plastic lugnut covers. Acquiring them from a wrecked vehicle will also be exponentially more difficult as they are incorporating them into the frame. We may never see 4680s on the aftermarket. You also need a 96s bms, and Im sure the 4680 has a different voltage-discharge curve than the Leaf cells, which the vehicles' software won't like. I'm sure it's possible to build a Leaf battery out of 4680s, but it would be a very difficult undertaking IMO.

[@ElectricTechAdventures]

@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I just did a range test with my 2013 LEAF this week kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWmaZX6urNSLl6s and now that I work from home exclusively, and after your comments about how the LEAF will likely be discontinued etc... I'm thinking I might just sell it before it's resale value goes down more than it already has. I bought it for $7,800 back in February of 2018 at 60k miles and now it's at 67k and it's lost two more battery capacity bars, so it's now lost 5 of it's original 12 bars. It's still a useful vehicle around town as my test shows it can go 55 miles at least, and probably could have gone closer to 60 miles in around town driving. The problem for me is I often need to get on the freeway for part of the drive and that's what really drains the battery super fast.

[@YouLikeToast]

Awesome video.

[@aragorn084]

Here in the UK I've found the batteries are simply unaffordable. I've kept an eye out for a while, and they're actually less available on eBay now than they were a year or two ago, and the ones that are on there are silly money. I presume big companies are buying up all the packs that do hit the salvage yards.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes, there are some crazy monopolies depending on your location. I have yet to buy a single pack from my own country!

[@dgroberts100]

@@DalasEVRepair This is the main obstacle. It looks pretty easy really, and all credit to Daniel for figuring it out. Getting hold of a batyer pack is not easy by the look of it (in the UK).

[@katydid5088]

@@dgroberts100 Have you tried an auction yard? If you can get someone in with an OBD2 scanner you can see if buying the car whole (with a half decent pack) would be worth it. I can obviously say that if the cells are swollen, you are out a bunch of money but if the lot will let you get an in-depth look at the car they might let you pick it up for cheap as a salvage. (i.e the cost of the battery pack and a little extra) The spare parts you would have to resell and store indefinitely or on your own so of course that might not be an option. I think Nissan's platform is far better and more thought out than Tesla even if the super charge network and range are better, the serviceability and customer interactions make the price of the car obscene.

[@hugoalejandromalikrivera8446]

Hello, good. Does anyone know how to make the adaptations for the red cam and the connectors from 22 to 36 Pins?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Some good info on this page: www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=32819

[@juhanilohiniva]

love the MCM reference on jacking up the car :D