Nissan R35 GT-R Track Edition - A Future Classic?

[@MrOvershoot]

I was sat next to a 16 plate GT-R at some lights yesterday and they really do have road presence, in a thuggish sort of way like RS6’s do as well. I’m more of a fan of flowing lines cars but can see their appeal.

[@Christian---]

Great term, road presence. Honestly not enough is said about this. Some cars really just feel like there's a whole sort of aura or magic surrounding them.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Thuggish??? I like that description.

[@ETH85]

Yeah they defo ate more impressive in person.. there's a few knocking about where I live so see them regular and they defo stand out.. I'd still say the R33 is the best shape out of any skyline but R35 are beasts

[@Christian---]

@@ETH85 I've noticed pretty much all cars, especialy interiors, look so much better in person, the camera doesn't capture the three dimensionality well

[@ishansingh9633]

nothing more thuggish than driving what's essentially an incredibly capable brick

[@tylerhough9124]

The GTR made supercar type performance accessible to a larger community. It’ll forever be a legend…even though there was that period where it seemed like everyone had them 😅

[@gioperez6331]

That’s how I feel about all challengers, chargers, and 5.0s. Fantastic and high performing cars but everyone has them!

[@lrs3]

The R35 will definitely be a future classic, it's now iconic for how fast it is

[@WarriorsPhoto]

If there's one thing I have always admired is your use of the English language. It's like listening to poetry when you tell these cars stories. (:

[@josefgordon7712]

Loved this car as soon as it came out. Has held a spot on my dream car list ever since.

[@JordzyBrev]

R34 gtr or r35 gtr is my dream

[@coordsportgmbh5728]

@@JordzyBrev Get the R35. The R34 won't live up to your dream. I've owned both.

[@JordzyBrev]

@@coordsportgmbh5728 always loved a R34 gtr wont ever be able to afford one

[@sportzntouring]

Great car!! I've not driven an R35 since Nissan Race Academy '09 at Silverstone, but, do remember it's an incredibly capable car... And I've heard only great things about the Track Edition. I think you're right, it's going to be a classic.

[@Punisher9419]

I wish more cars had the same treatment the R35 has had. I like the idea of keepign a car model around and upgrading and refining it over time isntead of replacing the entire model chasis and so on.

[@bwatt1383]

I agree but unfortunately that's a recipe for lower yearly sales

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

The Americans really proved that recipe with the epic ZL1 Camaro and the GT3 destroying Viper ACR.

[@Corvolet5]

Refining it over time? More like letting it sit in the dust and make minimal changes on it. They already did that with the 350Z and the 370Z. If Porsche or Ferrari did that with any of their models and charge a higher price every year for an outdated car, people would eventually question their sanity and reputation.

[@N1ckZ]

I disagree. All of the changes made to it were reactionary because the competitors kept improving. For the most part they did the bare minimum required, to try to keep it somewhat competitive and relevant.

[@gametechnology9232]

Mercedes left the chat.

[@jonnygreer]

Absolutely agree with everything you said. I have owned 2 along with other performance cars and the sensation you get, the looks, how they handle and perform is absolutely fantastic and very very few cars have given me that feeling. For sure a future classic, of course every GTR has been different to the previous generation but look at the way the prices are all heading. I too have said that as the older GTR prices are beyond affordability for many the next alternative is the R35 thus driving more demand for it. Watch this space folks and don’t sell up

[@totom5095]

I sold my 2019 C63s to buy a 2010 GTR. Crazy some may say , likewise I thought I was and I was so nervous. Was I doing the right thing. Well , all I can say is “wow”. OM… the GTR is awesome. Every time I’m out in it , it just thrills me. I can hardly remember a day other drivers don’t wave. Flash lights, give me s thumbs up… it’s just brilliant and joyful. Something special indeed.

[@xmlthegreat]

The Skyline and particularly the R-35 has always felt like an institution to me. Sad to see it come to an end.

[@RAZGR1Z]

Don't worry, Nissan is bringing back the Skyline as a hybrid crossover 🤮

[@teabaggins3517]

The 2017 I bought a year ago for 12 mil JPY now sells for 18 mil (150k USD). Though I love this car and I will never sell it..

[@simondean8710]

I think you’re right about prices rising on these - the same has happened to be 350/370z as we’re not getting the 400z. I chopped in my Lotus Evora for a 2018 370z Nismo which I bought for £26k but sold for £30k 6 months later! I needed cash for stamp duty so found myself a stock low mileage 2004 350z which I had to pay nearly £10k for - nuts as only 4 years ago I bought one for £5k. Sporty Nissans that are unmolested are a sure fire investment I think. Love your videos mate👍

[@joelsmith9311]

I think you are right about the values. Here in Australia you’re looking at between $500,000 and $669,000 for a 2017 or newer NISMO or T-Spec. The cheapest 2008 Premium GTR starts at $110,000, if you want a face lifted 2017 or newer they start at $300,000. To be honest at that money I can’t justify it - I’d rather have a Lambo or something. But then again, where would I put my guns?! 😂

[@gavinr9107]

Yeah it's crazy to think a few years ago the 08 models were hovering around the $80K mark now they have shot up in price again.

[@TheChannel1978]

Those prices are ridiculous. I live in NZ and had no idea GTR prices have become so silly. I also doubt if anybody pays them, sellers advertise high and just don't sell.

[@joelsmith9311]

@@TheChannel1978 You might be right, but it’s not just the GTR35’s that are silly money these days. GTR34 V-Spec’s start at $250K and go up to $450K - they’ve got mileage on them too, and they sell. M-Spec’s start at $350K and top out at $480K. Remember that in Australia you also have to pay stamp duty on top - in NSW that’s a $14,100 tax for the privilege of buying a $300K second hand car, on top of the usual road taxes etc…. It’s crazy and I cannot understand how people afford it, but it’s happening. Maybe the bubble will burst, but manufacturers aren’t making too many more of these sorts of cars so the rarity will increase over time.

[@teabaggins3517]

I live in Japan, 7 years ago I bought an 08 model with 40k km, went FBO and drove it 150,000km. 5 years later I sold it for same price I bought it. Now I have a 2017 premium edition with rakuda tan interior. Bought it for 12.5mil jpy and I can sell if for 18 mil.. Though I don't plant to. I also have an 2017 R8 V10 and although the V10 sounds better and it's faster in straight line, for some reason the GT-R feels faster and attracts more attention. Hopefully I can afford to keep it forever.

[@joelsmith9311]

I'd love to drive one of these. I sat in one at a Motorshow somewhere and was struck by how Touring Car it felt - the whole cockpit aimed at the driver, all the controls nicely to hand, really good supportive seats slung low. It's a lot of car, no denying it.

[@astonmartin4360]

Glad I owned one.Fantastic car.

[@mikehertz6507]

What did you replace it with?

[@BobMonkeypimp]

I too hated the look of the R35 initially. I thought it was too slab-sided. Now, I love the look of it, especially when I see one in person.

[@stephanosuk78]

The R35 for me is the car that defined the current generations of sports cars. Its large turbo charge engine, four wheel drive, dct, and trick electronics within a practical well made package. I'm looking at you 991 and M4 hell 296.

[@iandavidson99]

The R35 may have been fundamentally the same car for 15-years, but so was the original NSX (1990-2005). If it's not broke...

[@beaches2mountains230]

I agree entirely but will add that was also when manufacturers were not doing face lifts on there entire lineup every 2-3 years..I always think of the C3 and C4 Corvettes because those cars were damn near 99% the same from the first production year to the final year minus some air/fuel delivery system changes and interior. think the C4 went from like 82 to 96..I think the manufacturing process was alot more complicated if they wanted to do any changes back then.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Really nice video. Fantastic car. Keep up the good work.

[@ralphwood2938]

Another great video James. The roads you were on looked amazing! Wales I presume?

[@mackie1001]

I think for that money it’s a Project 8 no question for me. There’s a ton of “last hurrah for ICE” amazing machines available in that bracket though but something genuinely rare but also incredibly usable really appeals.

[@edwardobernardino4347]

This channel helps me sleep and keep me calm on my way to work

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

These have a presence on the road. Unique in every way.

[@ClayWong]

Definitely a future classic! But the NISMO takes the cake👌🏻

[@Stoobers]

Always a head turner. Love them!

[@ralphpeiris5996]

I own a 2012 Nissan GT-R and I must say I Love IT!!!!!!

[@2702simmo]

I’d love one , drove one once and it’s the car that gave me the biggest grin what a beast I used to own a GTR33 back in 2004 which I love to this day but these are a different gravy

[@poached_egg_on_cars]

Thats some interesting artwork on the road at the beginning there O_O

[@eze8970]

Thanks J, these seem to have a brutal charm!

[@mikebaker8667]

Collect my Special Edition R35 Nismo in the morning,one of 28 produced for world wide distribution, actually chassis number 28, the last built....how fortunate am i..

[@davidmwood560]

I had a 1989 R32 GTR Full Race a few years ago. I was happy to make a very substantial profit when I sold it. I had to sell it, purely because the thing was so ridiculously rapid that it was going to be a case of making the choice between risking my life on the track; my licence on the road; or just sit and look at its sheer beauty. I couldn't do the latter, not enough will-power; the other two weren't worth it; so it had to go. Having had dozens of fast classics over the decades, it was a surprisingly difficult decision, I loved that car! I've never liked the new ones, I know they're great cars, but I just can't get my little brain round the looks.

[@TheJmebe]

Love Skyline and GTR and general other JDM performance cars. Unfortunately the performance/cool/cost combination that made the Slyline/GTR originally highly appealing, has been eroded by increasing cost ..still wins on performance and cool though.

[@andrewsots]

The GTR has looked the same since 2007. The Porsche 911 has looked the same since the 1960s ! Both have evolved through the years till the present.

[@kdpwt]

I've been saying for a while now that this is going to be a future classic. Not even the track edition or facelift, just the R35 alone. Being a younger enthusiast, I've been able to see the effect this thing had on the kids in lower grades back in school. The amount of kids who had an R35 as their phone background was insane, the overrated level of this car in it's prime was absolutely nuts and I don't think fast and furious or bathurst can even compare. At the very least, it's Ferrari 458 level of popularity, but very likely a lot more. I'm in the same boat. I really did not like this when it came out, but over the years it's really grown on me Jeremy Clarkson loved it when it came out, even more than it's predecessors, and that's often a pretty big factor. Add Nurburgring records into the mix and the same thing that made other cars go nuts, the tuning scene, and you've got a recipe for extreme covetedness This car is in that weird spot right now where it's not new but also not a classic either. There are a few reasons this car can't become a full on classic: lack of pedigree (group a madness), lack of engagement, lack of rarity (compared to predecessors). But If it can get past those, when people start caring about this car again, it's going to be nutsa

[@TheMHohSoma]

The R35 will be a classic I am sure of that, sadly probably more the NISMO model. But honestly Nissan didn't refine the R35 to perfection, they just let it get old... When I first drove one in 2010 I was blown away and loved the car! when I got to drive one in 2020 it just felt old despite being brand new... Sadly it seems there will not be something cool to replace it

[@TheChannel1978]

'They let it get old' is a great way to put it. Not sure I'd want to be my money on values going up on that formula

[@hollywoodquiet]

I was lucky enough to find one of the "Nismo Engineered" Track editions. Made in 2020 only and came with the 600hp Nismo engine and CCBs. Its basically a Nismo in sheep's clothing. I traded in my 2017 Premium for it and it is a completely different car. I called Nissan to run the VIN and get a number of how many they made. They made 26 for the US market. I asked how many of each 3 colors they made and they called back a week later and said they made 4 white ones like mine. They didn't give me the numbers for red and black as they assumed I only cared about the white one. Anyways I just uploaded a video of mine at the dyno, and it made way more than 600hp. Did the baseline dyno video of it before I start modifying it here shortly.

[@0T13]

do we know if there will be a R36/ new skyline in the future? suspect if so it will be hybrid at least.

[@tavirosu25]

Yes there will, v6 confirmed...hybrid not yet, but I suspect most likley it will be a hybrid but with a rather pathetic electric motor just to dodge taxes/emissions. The sad thing is after the R36 the next GTR with 100% be EV only...

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Probably the most likely of the GT-Rs to become a future classic... Except for maybe the Nismos, although they're already commanding a premium. I'd say mostly because, of all the GT-Rs, it's least likely to be used on the road much (if at all), so the milage should stay pretty low and you'd have to be an absolute moron to modify it, so they should stay mostly stock. Finding a low miles, unmodified R35 is gonna be a challenge, just as is the case with most JDM cars.

[@franciscocabrerabrito5945]

Fun fact. I think most of the GTR's out there have been modified. So logic says we're mostly moron's. Nothing is like it should.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@franciscocabrerabrito5945 Are most of the track editions really modified? This one at least wasnt according to Jayemm.

[@iainbagnall4825]

@@franciscocabrerabrito5945 weeeeeelllll it all depends on the mods and who's doing them and why lol

[@franciscocabrerabrito5945]

@@iainbagnall4825 fore pure fun/performance I'm agree. But unless it is a brand with reputation (brabus, RUF, etc.) which is likely to not happen (unless Tommy Kaira comes back), valuewise modding makes a car worse in the long term.

[@AntoniusTyas]

I have yet to see the final facelift GT-R, but I always think R35 looks really good. Now, I thought because GT-R is basically everywhere (relatively speaking to any other flagship Japanese supercar anyway), I might got bored of it. But every time I saw one that thought simply went away. Man, now I want both the GT-R T-Spec and GT-R Nismo SV. One importer sold a Nismo SV for GBP400k here, though

[@TheBS80]

I've been at the presentation day at the local Nissan (now Maserati-) dealer. I've had a 350Z roadster back then and I really didn't like the R35. Too big, how could this spaceship beat any well-known sportscar? Oh yes, it could. Then I drove a RHD car on the Nordschleife in 2009 and was very impressed instantly. Over the years I've had a few Porsche, Ferrari, Maserati. I've kept some, but most of them were sold some day. Now I got me a 2021 GT-R "Prestige Edition". All black (except brake calipers), it looks faster than my 992 even when they're parking next to each other. My wife is going to kill me and I'm not sure if this is an appropriate car for a mid 40s guy, but I can't wait to pick it up...🥳

[@stevojohn]

lol at the knob on the road.

[@ijoseluis]

Delightful review. That's it, the X factor...

[@john-vy1ml]

This is absolute future clasic.

[@zirgreen1]

got a my2021 bought it around September.

[@joe718gt4]

Definitely a classic. Even thought of getting one of these a couple of years ago, even with somewhat aging technology. But my biggest gripe was mainly the engine noise... still not my favorite. But these will always have presence and I'm glad they kept it wedge-shaped

[@AntoniusTyas]

The presence of a GT-R is shocking. My acquaintance owned one in white. He thought he'd fly under the radar taking his 2022 GT-R for a dinner. He was wrong. Told me that a whole lot more people took photos and videos of his GT-R than that of his Ferrari F8 Spider or McLaren 720S.

[@Artilectual]

The only Nissan I long for

[@Sauceyjames]

I want one. Getting an FD, Supra mk 4, or a (real) Skyline GT-R R32 to R34 for a decent price seems crazy. Knowing me, I wouldn't be able to keep it stock, so a R35 GTR is just... One to buy. Wouldn't have to worry about abusing it, & it's already going to beat those classics I want.

[@tabryis]

def gonna be a legend in 20 years

[@m.j4037]

The x factor for the R35 occurs when they are tuned to 800hp.

[@Dunkelzeitgeist]

It’s abit like an advanced muscle car, very wide and thuggish. My A5 coupe has some similar traits, it’s also wide and long, sits very well and angry on the road but is cramped on the inside, also doesn’t use many revs to get to silly speeds and also sounds very similar somehow being a 3.0 V6 diesel 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bwatt1383]

Love me a 2+2, looks better to not be sitting over the rear wheels imo

[@davidcooks5265]

It sounds good 😄

[@Boabybawbag]

Great review. The Giants? You should have had a Swallows shirt for this one.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

I bought that shirt at a Giants game!

[@Boabybawbag]

@@JayEmmOnCars Awesome shirt!!!

[@volvos70t51]

5:29 .....is that the Rozzers behind you?, good luck to them! hahaha

[@seinsmeld13]

I love this car however I prefer a Porsche for the same price. That's why I drive a 2020 718 Spyder as my daily during the warmer months. During the winter I drive an RS3. Cheerio good mate.

[@Wiggy321]

Its very rare you don't have something critical to say about a car. This car must be impressive

[@richardkossecki2322]

Hey @JayEmm ! I presume the phallic graffiti (at the 0.30 second mark) was by accident.

[@Dax151tube]

It's still the one car that has stayed in my dream garage an R34 in Bayside blue or a white Nismo....I just need the lottery win to make it happen!

[@skynetintex5878]

@JayEmm on Cars - great video as always and looking forward to the next episodes. Quick question about the R35 - I've got a 2017 Recardo Edition for about a year now. I love the car, but don't drive it that much, so I'm thinking about selling it. Given that Nissan have discontinued it now, I'm wondering whether I should sell it or keep it if the price rises. What do you think?

[@VadimC1199]

I know that my imput is extra, but seing that the new 36 will still be V6 turbo and not electric the old one wont have something special extra,like in the case of ferrari going from N/A to turbo, porche from air cooled and so on. I personally don’t see any reason for the prices to skyrocket on the R35. Wait for the reviews only is the new car is dog shit(wich is unlikely) will the R35 have a bump in price. Cheers and I hope it helps you

[@chriscomparescars4416]

Wow what a car!

[@MegaAntonyp]

You happen to be driving near the Ribblehead Viaduct in this video?

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

Ahhh those Hertfordshire vistas or Buckinghamshire lol

[@gregoryjohnson9733]

Should have made the last 500 manual.

[@Microfishingstory]

I’ve driven a GTR here in America and was actually really disappointed. It didn’t have the special driving experience I was expecting despite being heavily modified. It was fast, but I felt like I was asking the car for permission to do anything.

[@MSKJBhd]

People who are not into cars can never tell the difference between porsches ,bmw,merc from their performance models. But when you see a GTR there is no mistake it is a GTR ;)

[@jamcarz8982]

The price definitely killed this car!

[@antwindies12.]

The GTR face lifted a few times and change many things within those years of the R35

[@willowwillow7112]

What a beautiful vehicle

[@shadowninja569]

Considering that the next iteration is going to be a hybrid this car will be a classic regardless of the inflated price tag.

[@koolkeith8908]

Rare. Bombproof. Fast. Collectible.

[@KingBanter]

R34 is the best looking of them all

[@youtubegarbage7876]

Nothing like an auto trans in a super heavy car.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

There is an abandoned 2016 one in the underground car park of my flats. Not turned a wheel in years and suspect the owner isnt interested….

[@kennelizigadogspets1704]

Send me location please if still there

[@kennelizigadogspets1704]

Send location if still there

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

Here in Au a T-Spec will set you back around £300,000 GBP ($500,000 AUD). Too fast for Nanny State Australia anyways.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Yeah the Aussie police don't seem to have a sense of humour

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

@@JayEmmOnCars The general population are even more trouble than the police here. 🙄

[@paulmcadam6825]

Sad to see "Down under" is rapidly becoming a land of sheeple......

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

@@paulmcadam6825 Sadly you're correct. Ironic for a population that rode to prosperity on the sheep's back.

[@Looneymac1984]

Lobe this car 👊😎🔥

[@jozsefizsak]

Nice car.

[@markziff7234]

The X factor gets a boost from being on film/TV.

[@mattvanders]

Hang on a second, is that a giant ancient fertility symbol on the road at 30 seconds in? 😆

[@MyKeeP81]

nice giants hawaiian shirt!

[@Stephenc4877]

Don’t jay had to sell my during covid still breaks my heart thinking about it.

[@philcross1057]

One day I’ll own one… 😬

[@UKfromadrone]

the biggest reason why I didnt get an r35 is the 6speed gearbox that is keeping the car at 3k rpm when you are doing 70...

[@Darylrb1983]

Damn I would've thought that 6th would be a taller gear for highway

[@UKfromadrone]

@@Darylrb1983 nope, came from a 3.2 mk2 tt 6speed dsg, it was exactly the same gearing, around 3k @70mph, test drove the r35 and i said no ty, ended up buying a ttrs that sits happily at 2k @70 in 7th

[@pat8593]

nice. for once im jealous .

[@harrylloyd6955]

Would love one but the £1400-2k on a set of tyres puts me off buying.

[@TheChannel1978]

You are worried about cost of rubber and thinking to buy a used super car? Just checking.

[@PK-gs3xo]

JDM for life

[@8359s]

Do you still have your 968?

[@AMCL5]

The end of the r35 is a dark day for petrolheads 😔.

[@SeanE1978]

So for a weekend toy and a 50k budget, would you choose a GTR or a V10 R8? 🤔

[@TG-pd3ft]

Another day, another 1M4 TW4T number plate

[@jameshunterford4099]

James, please please please please please please please please please PLEASE.... make a short video of you making the pudding you describe in this review! 🍪🍩🍫🍭

[@simongarantini1544]

You asked what differences there are with the track edition. They are quite substantial, this is from Litchfield: Nissan market their Track Edition as “Engineered by NISMO for better on-track performance”. The Nissan Track Edition features the chassis enhancements of the full Nismo model including: Wider front track Wider front wings Seam welded and reinforced chassis Larger hubs and wheel studs Nismo front suspension arms Nismo/Bilstein damptronic suspension Hollow upgraded anti roll bars Lightweight and wider Nismo forged alloy wheels (-2.5kg each) Dunlop N1 Tyres Track Edition interior build plaque Optional lightweight carbon rear spoiler Optional carbon rear boot lid Optional carbon backed Recaro seats Optional carbon roof Optional ceramic brakes Later cars also had the Nismos GT3 split turbo manifolds.

[@s2korpionic]

The GT-R is the supercar that tends to get downplayed.

[@prawnk1ng]

The r32 is the true classic even tho there were a few skylines before it. The 34 is the icon and the r33 is growing on me. The r35 just feels like a PlayStation on wheels and was too mass-produced.

[@MrManBuzz]

Too mass produced? You're aware R35 production numbers are comparable to the R32s right? At least the last time I checked. And given they've not been selling many in the last few years, I highly doubt that's not the case now.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

I remember there was a time when Clarkson (or Tiff I think) called the *R34* a PlayStation on wheels.....

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Yeah I address both the "PlayStation on Wheels" and production numbers in the video. I don't agree either statement

[@betac0re]

The next GTR will be full electric as Nissan already confirmed. I cannot imagine with what to replace my R35 in the future. Maybe it will stay in my collection forever.

[@davekennedy6315]

Please keep it, they are a truly incredible car and such an achievement. With prices of Japanese performance cars going completely insane recently, the GTR being the king of them all should bode well for your cars value in the future. That and its still an insanely quick car with AWD to keep things under control even in the UKs usual crappy weather.

[@rdrrua]

dunno if you really tried it on the track? all GTRs I have driven - they are too heavy, 55% weight on the front, they can only go straight - they do not turn.

[@anthonycharway745]

More like timeless

[@kevincockburn7805]

As a car that brought in monster horsepower for more modest sums of money. But a car that hung around too long, and essentially unchanged. Such that BMW and Audi etc then surpassed it. And forget about Porsche, if you could afford a 911 turbo you never seriously looked at a GTR Nismo. (Only young lads on a playstation did that).

[@TheChannel1978]

In 2007 the r35 was the bomb, in 2022 it would still be the bomb if the price was the same but instead the price tripled...

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

If you want a mental car for your guns, surely a ZR1 Corvette or a Hellcat is the natural choice.

[@gtvrossa]

If Darth Vader owned a GT it would be this car, but in black!

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

How does a Rolls Royce not have an "x factor" but this does? A GT-R is a stellar car but the exact opposite of special, and special is what a Rolls Royce is.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

It's different things to different people but just look at a 90s Rolls and a 90s Japanese sports car - the one which cost 10x more new is now cheaper...