Nissan's New Z Is The 400 HP Sports Car That Won't Break The Bank | 2023 Nissan N

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Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Күн бұрын

Disappointed the new Supra is more BMW than Toyota? Well, that's not the case with Nissan's new twin-turbo Z!
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@djgoldthing7166
@djgoldthing7166 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yours and savagegeese are easily the most detailed and informative of all the car videos, with all the day to day practical stuff included in fine detail. Thumbs up from England.
@wackit6756
@wackit6756 2 жыл бұрын
Hah! $39,000?? I remember when the new Corvette came out for '$59,000'. Has there been a living soul who ever got one for that amount? Hope Nissan doesn’t follow in that path.
@got_to_roll
@got_to_roll 2 жыл бұрын
Great review of a really nice coupe. I have waited endlessly for a Murano redesign with a real transmission. I now want this entire drivetrain in it. What a fantastic SUV that would be!
@james2042
@james2042 2 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna track a manual, a very simple fix would be drop the rear gearing, 6th gear is super tall anyways, and its not like you're going to mess up the shift patterns of the trans because its a manual
@alphabeta8403
@alphabeta8403 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese RWD fun: TOYOTA-Supra, GR86 Nissan-Z Honda-🤔 BRING BACK THE S2K HONDA!
@markmiller3279
@markmiller3279 2 жыл бұрын
It was a slow seller way back when. There's no reason they'd bring it back and lose more money.
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way this looks. I think they totally bombed the new Supra, that just looks weird, this looks modern but classic. My wife likes to drive fast so this might be an option for her (even though I think a sporty compact SUV like the Jaguar makes the most sense).
@bigneutron77
@bigneutron77 2 жыл бұрын
If your wife drives fast, better get that supra, cause these are slow
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 2 жыл бұрын
Best review, as you showed all the details
@andyhung424able
@andyhung424able 2 жыл бұрын
For all intents and purposes, it is a facelifted 370Z with an upgrade to 400hps turbo charge engine and updated center console and gauge cluster. All of those things are great, but the best part is it is somehow more of a value than the 370z. I think Nissan knocks it out of the park in packaging the new Z. I love that NIssan found a way to keep making the Z, making it more fun and updated but also not breaking the customers' bank. By comparison, the Supra is such a market failure because its value sucks big time especially considering the fact that it got the chassis and engine from BMW and no manual transmission.
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 2 жыл бұрын
The Supra comes in a manual and it costs about the same as this fully loaded, plus it’s faster not saying it’s better I’m just pointing that out
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 2 жыл бұрын
The supra is a premium sportscar vs the affordable everyday Z you see here yet the Z performance costs 51k as much as a base 3.0 supra. Also, the Z4 which the supra shares its platform costs over 15k more than a supra. Sounds like a great deal to me coming from bmw buyers. You get the speed and comfort of a Z4 at the price of a Z
@naji_ali
@naji_ali 2 жыл бұрын
1:05 it is still called ZX not Z , the little line in the middle of Z makes it like X impeded inside the Z !!! who agrees ?
@ohroonoko
@ohroonoko 2 жыл бұрын
13:52 I had a 2004 350Z Touring 6MT and put over 230,000 miles on it. I never had to replace the clutch and I drove it hard, fast and fun. These cars are very robust. Don’t worry about it.
@houseofno
@houseofno 2 жыл бұрын
The number behind the letter Z has NOT, and never HAS denoted the amount of engine horsepower under the hood. The original S30 240Z never claimed to have 240 horsepower, but the US spec version put out 145 horsepower. No Z car has ever claimed that the name was connected with the amount of horsepower produced. The number has traditionally indicated engine displacement, NOT horsepower. The 240Z got its name from the 2.4L inline six. Ditto for the later 260Z with a 2.6L inline six, and so forth. Your urban myth would have gotten Datsun (or later, Nissan) SUED for claiming the number was at all connected with the horsepower. This would have also been confusing for consumers when different models produced different horsepower outputs.
@ricktrue8441
@ricktrue8441 2 жыл бұрын
Won't break the bank until the dealerships put there ADM on these things.
@jml9550
@jml9550 2 жыл бұрын
What a bargain at $41K starting price.
@JonathanRootD
@JonathanRootD 2 жыл бұрын
sarcasm right? slower than my 2021 Model Y crossover I got for under 50k.
@p00lking
@p00lking 2 жыл бұрын
Those are two very different cars. Crossover vs 2 door sports car
@jml9550
@jml9550 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanRootD not sarcasm. Sure your MY is faster in straight line only, but can’t handle corners like the Z. Sure your MY can carry 4 people but also need to recharge every 250 miles at 30-40 minutes. Where a ICE can fuel up in 5 minutes. These are completely different cars. Why make such comparison? Both good cars, don’t need to bash others.
@jml9550
@jml9550 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanRootD BTW, a new Tesla MY is now $63K. You should compare price new vs new. It is like saying I bought my house 15 years ago at $500K 5K sqft lot, now worth $1.5M market value is better than your new $1.5M house with 2K sqft lot. Two completely different houses and two completely different market conditions.
@gianniclaud
@gianniclaud 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you all release videos at the same time. The embargo thing really does pit you guys in some kind of competition... it's kind of amusing. I chose yours first because of your attention to detail.
@rickyrich93
@rickyrich93 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 2 жыл бұрын
Not just competition...fair competition
@gianniclaud
@gianniclaud 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476 2 months later? Really though lol
@billwaterhouse5894
@billwaterhouse5894 2 жыл бұрын
I think the designer should be rewarded for a job well done capturing styling cues of the past. It reminds me of the models I grew up with in the 80's and 90's. It's simple, subtle and beautiful.
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo 2 жыл бұрын
i love the way its face isn't angry or hostile. looks kinda like a goldfish breathing, friendly face. i dig that kind of confidence. all these mad-face speed-cars are corny
@RealBearFace
@RealBearFace 2 жыл бұрын
10k for the performance stuff is too much IMHO. LSD should have been standard. Still a lovely car and I want it
@desertdriver7056
@desertdriver7056 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Tunnelsnakes
@Tunnelsnakes 2 жыл бұрын
Considering even a 30k car (GR86) has an LSD, that should’ve came standard on the Z instead of having to slap a 10k package just to be able to get one on it, or at the very least, make it an optional addition on the base. Having that much horsepower, you’d be crazy to not have one.
@erp2000
@erp2000 2 жыл бұрын
I say give it a year or two and they put lsd in sport
@ak2112
@ak2112 2 жыл бұрын
LSD should be standard. Making it cost $10k is bogus.
@candlercando
@candlercando 2 жыл бұрын
$39k is a dream. Maybe a used Z in 2 years can be had for $39k. Much like the base cost of a new C8 never was the base price.
@Victic005
@Victic005 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would get the sport trim and save $10k. It's way cheaper than the 2.0 Supra. Is that model going to be abundantly available?
@bikebudha01
@bikebudha01 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, a question/opinion request for you. My position is that on open public back roads absolute power has less meaning, in that "a gazzillion" horsepower does not 'add' to the experience when you are carving around a 35mph back road curve. I am thinking the GR86, with less power, provides 100% of the fun you can actually have on the open road. So do you think the extra $10k for a Z is worth it over an 86???
@swanblake
@swanblake 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of how Nissan did pricing. At $50k its overpriced and at $40k it should have a LSD. As a former 300ZX, 350Z, and 370Z you can see all the 370Z parts everywhere which is fine if they kept the pricing affordable like prior 370Z but they didnt. GR86 is getting my money as I can't afford the new Z now. Nissan priced me out of the market
@HOTPLATEGAMING
@HOTPLATEGAMING 2 жыл бұрын
Won’t break the bank Dealers adding ADM 10-20K
@chrisarji3313
@chrisarji3313 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new nissan Z looks very plain and straight very beautiful... hated new toyota supra its ugly.
@JaredReMillard
@JaredReMillard 2 жыл бұрын
"It's the kind of engine you just want to rev for no reason." Cue all the Nissan fan boiz who rev their 350-70z's for no reason on surface streets at midnight Regardless you always give great reviews Alex.
@seanroddy4084
@seanroddy4084 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I can't get use to the new guy.
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 2 жыл бұрын
Hagerty (Chris Cammina) just got 4.6-4.7 seconds in the manual, 4.2 seconds in the quarter, with the manual. Needs better tires (Replace Bridgestones with Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, traction is an issue, slowing the car from launch) and a new muffler (sound)
@chiemekaa
@chiemekaa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm literally watching all of the Z videos back to back at almost midnight CST!
@tjs114
@tjs114 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who drove a 280Z back in the late 1980s, while they were cool looking and all, manual rack & pinion steering isn't something I'd recommend to anyone. Or root beer brown paint.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Was waiting for the crew that would give a no BS review of this vehicle. I like it. I can't love it? I own a Supra! Lol 😆 Also, the person in the trunk assessment? Is it intended for the mob/criminal element watching your videos?
@MJSEN
@MJSEN 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one-two in your review guys, it's good to have you both sharing, thanks for the detailed look!
@kybruce1
@kybruce1 2 жыл бұрын
Love the styling. Looks almost as good as the original Z. The previous version looked bloated and fat. This looks much more trim
@MrMegatron85
@MrMegatron85 2 жыл бұрын
For real! I didn't realize how bloated it looked until this new one came out
@robertbonefant8271
@robertbonefant8271 2 жыл бұрын
It is beautiful. Love the Z
@Timpala44
@Timpala44 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in high school, I owned a Datsun 260Z. I look at these videos because I may have to buy one to re-live my youth. 🤣
@gianniclaud
@gianniclaud 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that front grill directly viewed from the front looks sooo undone! lol
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee 2 жыл бұрын
They could probably fix it quite fast since its just plastic lol
@TheChenny73
@TheChenny73 2 жыл бұрын
If only Nissan didn’t have ridiculously hard plastic ugly interior materials
@kobechrome138
@kobechrome138 2 жыл бұрын
I still think the 350z has better arrow dynamic curved lines
@KPHVAC
@KPHVAC 2 жыл бұрын
Car companies, and too many Americans have lost their minds considering the cost of new cars. $700 to $800 car payments should not be Normal. I love cars and trucks, but I just can't justify the cost. I will likely put $10,000 down on a $35,000 car in the next 18 months. I'm leaning towards a used Acura or Lexus.
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee 2 жыл бұрын
Its a sports car its not supposed to be 20-30k
@KPHVAC
@KPHVAC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr00stee I understand that it won't be the cost of a Corolla or Civic. The new Nissan Z is better than most, but they are all getting mighty expensive. I'm 36 years old, and worked in Automotive for most of my 20's
@candlercando
@candlercando 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr00stee Better just get a CPO Cayman for what this will cost.
@ttinnovations3310
@ttinnovations3310 2 жыл бұрын
very cool, and made in Japan, I'll wait 1 year, grey 6speed man top trim is my deposit, buy one while I'm young enough to drive the tires off it =)
@dretech
@dretech 2 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful car!
@Indifference2000
@Indifference2000 2 жыл бұрын
All Z should come with LSD standard. I think they miss the options. I prefer the base model with LSD. Or a track version for around 43-45k with upgraded wheels and brakes and seats. Don't really care for the bose system and Navi for 50k performance model. They need to put another model in between the base and performance model. Edit: also better tires
@SonoCars
@SonoCars 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it should've been Sport ($37k) > Performance 'LSD+Brakes+Tires+Rev Match at 45k' > Touring 'Full Grand Touring spec' $52k
@kermit1
@kermit1 2 жыл бұрын
Is that guy on your left your son?
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you buy a Nissan Z Alex. I love that you always compare the cars to the market competitors in the same price bracket. I appreciate that a lot
@alethiatopmodel3135
@alethiatopmodel3135 2 жыл бұрын
Z
@AceEverett
@AceEverett 2 жыл бұрын
I like the front end besides the headlights, oddly shaped, and the grill looks unfinished. I can see that they didn't want to carry the silver rectangles all the way down, but they could've used black diamond plastic or something similar on the lower half. The rest of the exterior looks great besides that silver stripe down the side, detracts from the body shape instead of accentuating it like they were going for. Interior looks a bit cheap with all that solid blue, but not terrible. If I had to pick between this and the BMW.. I mean Supra, it would definitely be this car.
@kobedabest
@kobedabest Жыл бұрын
Have fun getting beat by a Zupra.😂
@Reu_ag
@Reu_ag 2 жыл бұрын
The supra is more of a luxury sports car than a mainstream sports car
@MegaMusek
@MegaMusek 2 жыл бұрын
sad no 2+2 like the 300zx
@rogerspalding5673
@rogerspalding5673 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the Corvette, I can't justify GM's ruining the V8 with cylinder deactivation. There are kits on the web which will circumvent the electronic nannies. But I couldn't live with myself if I ruined a legendary engine. The Supra is is a BMW with a Toyota body on it. I already own an X3 M40i. It's just as fast as the Supra. Mustangs and Camaros are in a different class, as well as the G60 Infiniti. I avoid driving past the local Nissan dealership. It has a Z on display outside which looks identical to your test model. I thought I wanted a Ford F-150 Powerboost, or an F-250 with a Godzilla V8. The new Z has wrecked my motivation.
@candlercando
@candlercando 2 жыл бұрын
I like this but it's going to be $52k starting if you can find one. Doubt there will be many in the $40-$50k range on the lots.
@gwapogreg5837
@gwapogreg5837 Ай бұрын
Nice review but the new z is way too soft and a 1-2 shift from a truck.And it doesn't handle in the rain.Any drop at all.
@robertbonefant8271
@robertbonefant8271 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Nissan sells lots of Zzzzz
@jz7551
@jz7551 2 жыл бұрын
According to Car and Driver’s tests, the 2021 Supra did 388 hp at wheels, and they said “Remove the driveline losses, and the engine appears to be capable of 400 horsepower at the crank”. So yeah… the Supra makes more power than advertised, and I think it makes more hp than the Z at the wheels.
@sethi100
@sethi100 Жыл бұрын
Does the base include power seats? What about ventilated seats? But yes, glad Nissan made this. Especially in this age of SUV’s and EV’s - neither of which excites me.
@Chilicharger665
@Chilicharger665 2 жыл бұрын
10k jump for the desirable model is INSANE. That killed it.
@verde629
@verde629 2 жыл бұрын
Does the manual height adjustment work for someone that’s vertically challenged people? Lol. I’m about 5’5
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 2 жыл бұрын
Lots to like about the new design but it isn’t for everyone.
@IPL_VIC
@IPL_VIC 2 жыл бұрын
No lift shift is only when you engage launch control. For regular driving or track driving it is not available. That’s why it didn’t feel right when you tried to do it while regularly driving.
@thebad_guy
@thebad_guy 2 жыл бұрын
@alexonautos would you take the top of the line Z over the '22 BMW M240i xDrive?
@oscarm.1417
@oscarm.1417 2 жыл бұрын
uuuu aaah, 300 horspower...wooooow. Nissan is way way behind on the only race that counts; electrification.
@amitavc
@amitavc 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 300 Ziti…? Maybe let the name cook a bit longer.
@ij6708
@ij6708 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me sad, car's a looker and I was looking forward to owning one but at 6'5 it might just not have been meant to be
@jamesross2373
@jamesross2373 Жыл бұрын
I believe flat foot shifting only works when using launch control. Probably why it felt wrong.
@powamoto
@powamoto 2 жыл бұрын
Supra on top
@RT-mm8rq
@RT-mm8rq 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, Afordable. Not after the stealerships add thier stupid markups.
@xxNickxx23xx
@xxNickxx23xx 2 жыл бұрын
That front end looks terrible....
@chuchum3
@chuchum3 Жыл бұрын
There's not one single strong suit with his Z other than maybe the price. No thanks
@Mahesh-bo8lv
@Mahesh-bo8lv Жыл бұрын
This car is perfect for tuners. It seems like Nissan design this car with that in mind.
@erp2000
@erp2000 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the after market will make a kit so get more cargo in that trunk look like a lot of wasted space
@stevenr1354
@stevenr1354 2 жыл бұрын
Nice teamwork on that video. Yes, need the LSD on the base model.
@soflaav8r
@soflaav8r 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the homage to Yuri and Jakob at the start of your video.
@hendrylyly3662
@hendrylyly3662 2 жыл бұрын
this video talk too much garbage. get to the points, pros & cons
@BobBurghart
@BobBurghart 2 жыл бұрын
Title says "2023 Nissan N", should be Z?
@perstrainerbrian
@perstrainerbrian 2 жыл бұрын
We're Brian and Alex here too! 😁 Great review! Love it!
@soapa4279
@soapa4279 2 жыл бұрын
Man the front is so ugly though. The rest is perfect.
@singingLeaf123
@singingLeaf123 2 жыл бұрын
More like starting at 39000 + 10k markup
@suserman7775
@suserman7775 2 жыл бұрын
Zero to 60 is the same as a Stinger GT? Why? It has more HP and less weight.
@desertdriver7056
@desertdriver7056 2 жыл бұрын
I think a couple reviews are saying 3.8 seconds. I think that's more realistic for this one, though at 3,600 pounds it is pretty heavy really.
@zzzzzsleeping
@zzzzzsleeping 2 жыл бұрын
Iconic you said? Like the Supra - they could have used the 2jz instead of stupid BMW. Nissan should have used a better engine than the anemic V6 -- they could have used the legendary RB26 this year, then Rb28 next year then finalize it with the bang RB30 - it will sound better and mucho power !
@davidpiccolo3039
@davidpiccolo3039 2 жыл бұрын
I have to see it in person. Honestly the styling to me is ehhh.
@michelfortier9563
@michelfortier9563 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Houston and called various dealers about getting one. The cheapest ADM (additional dealer mark-up) I could find was an extra $2200 and up dealers planned on additionally charging for the car. Wonder if Nissan knows about this....I just can't bring myself to pay an additional $2200 for window tint, fabric & paint protection. I'll just keep driving my 2022 BRZ.....
@adamwiraszka5800
@adamwiraszka5800 2 жыл бұрын
Ugly comparing to original Z 350.
@JVR2019
@JVR2019 2 жыл бұрын
Spend less, mod it and void the warranty
@ConejoZing
@ConejoZing 2 жыл бұрын
Look at YOU, Z! Red Ribbons on the back
@rakhsiprayogo82
@rakhsiprayogo82 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Nissan Z Party Bro Alex
@ThinkBeFree99
@ThinkBeFree99 2 жыл бұрын
This vehicle is ugly. It looks like they didnt even try and is a slap in the face to the Z legacy.
@skullsroad3642
@skullsroad3642 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a car.
@ThinkBeFree99
@ThinkBeFree99 2 жыл бұрын
@@skullsroad3642 an ugly car
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah no it looks much better than the supra, only possible issue is the grill not going down all the way but that could easily be fixed by making a new mold
@goncalo33
@goncalo33 2 жыл бұрын
I think that they nailed its design. It looks good.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr00stee looking better than the current supra is the lowest bar you'll find.
@NasaRacer
@NasaRacer 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the carry over floor pan means you should be able to add a 370Z spare tire kit if you desire. Maybe Nissan will even offer a spare tire option. I am sure they removed it to keep the curb weight increase down a bit.
@edwardzdankiewicz9068
@edwardzdankiewicz9068 2 жыл бұрын
so being 6'5" this will never work for me. Damn! And I learned to drive stick shift on a 73 MG.
@desertdriver7056
@desertdriver7056 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'5" and drove a 370Z a couple months back and had no problem fitting in. Manual seats in that one. Sure, it's tight, and actually bending yourself in and out of any low car is an endeavor. But I had a good inch of head room (which for a tall guy, as you know, is about all you can hope for). If you can find one to drive it, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
@edwardzdankiewicz9068
@edwardzdankiewicz9068 2 жыл бұрын
@@desertdriver7056 Hey, thanks for the reply.
@ltkwok
@ltkwok 2 жыл бұрын
The must have in the performance trim is the LSD. Wonder if the LSD is one Nissan uses in its other cars so customers can just buy one off the shelf, put it in the base trim along with bigger brakes & be done.
@frednance3988
@frednance3988 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be the 2nd owner of a 1982 Datsun 280Z. It was already 18 years old when i bought it in mid-2000.
@daweed980
@daweed980 2 жыл бұрын
"370ZX" 🤣🤣 c'mon man you should know better being an automotive journalist
@1013VS
@1013VS 2 жыл бұрын
front bumper looks incomplete
@seagullsbtn
@seagullsbtn 2 жыл бұрын
The grille harks back to the 240/280, but not liking the eye like headlights. Rear end is a too plain Jane, lacks excitement, would look better on a Maxima.
@bryanclark7608
@bryanclark7608 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, looking forward to this car for so long and come to find out there's no hope I could fit in it. Just 6'1 but short legged. Oh well.
@falkin42
@falkin42 2 жыл бұрын
Ditch that Throttle House intro.
@chodkowski01
@chodkowski01 2 жыл бұрын
This car has been out for a year and is all over the place but still isn’t for sale in dealerships. If the car is as good as they say then why isn’t it for sale. It’s only a hype car.
@joec1774
@joec1774 2 жыл бұрын
Generally, I LOVE the styling, especially the 90s homage-looking rear end. The grille size is fine with me, but the shape is very meh. Overall, THRILLED to see the Z truly back... regardless of what its name is.
@yudhabudiawan7633
@yudhabudiawan7633 2 жыл бұрын
Say Z....then look at the grill...
@臺灣是國家臺灣是國家
@臺灣是國家臺灣是國家 2 жыл бұрын
The Nissan Z name is cool I think. Nice & simple in complicated times. 👍🏻🙏🏻☺️
@shiftintohigh5564
@shiftintohigh5564 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job on this gents!👍👍🇺🇸😎 Whats the DB at 70 mph?
@michaelhawkins5530
@michaelhawkins5530 2 жыл бұрын
This vehicles price should include gas hood struts and not a prop rod. Dealers will ask at least 5k over sticker, so that 40k starting price will never be seen by a customer. Too heavy for it's size. At the low volumes, even including a potential Infiniti version, I cannot believe there is any business case for this vehicle.
@Shotis
@Shotis 2 жыл бұрын
I think it looks great
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