Commander Haymakers Tier List | Ranking the Finishers of EDH

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We have the splashy, spicy finishers of Commander all together in one tier list, ready to be graded based on our opinion of their power in Commander!
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@BurnByMoonlight
@BurnByMoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time I resolved a Bolas’ Citadel and won, I’d be able to buy more copies of Bolas’ Citadel.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
They are cheap get them now!
@Mecal00
@Mecal00 2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Citadel is so good I avoided buying it because i just assumed it was $15-20. Imagine my surprise when I bought it for $6!
@sambrown9475
@sambrown9475 2 жыл бұрын
Meathook massacre makes me want to cry
@Chilledsky2
@Chilledsky2 2 жыл бұрын
My LGS was giving out promos for supporting the store and that's when I first saw the citadel haha, so now I have a retro foil promo citadel for my toxrill deck
@davidmcgaha7932
@davidmcgaha7932 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mecal00 get the game day version now
@stephenball2108
@stephenball2108 2 жыл бұрын
True joy is casting a Zacama, untapping 9 lands, paying 6 for Fiery Emancipation, and the other 3 to shoot your own Brash Taunter to dome an opponent for 27
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
That is so sick
@YeaItsMeMatt89
@YeaItsMeMatt89 2 жыл бұрын
These guys know their stuff!! As a new player; these guys save me lots of money by pointing me in the right direction to make my decks. Thanks guys!!
@rsphii
@rsphii 2 жыл бұрын
10:21 You heard it here yourself: Grave Titan is absolutely broken: “These cards are all great. All the titans are awesome-great cards…” -Joe 2022
@rsphii
@rsphii 2 жыл бұрын
and yes I can cast my Grave Titan consistency and he is in fact one of the best options…
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
This is all true believe this guy!
@weferin
@weferin 2 жыл бұрын
I love spreading misinformation on the internet
@joshuadempsey5281
@joshuadempsey5281 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I actually agree with all the positions of these cards. For the next tier list can we do “aggressive openers”?!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean
@UserbyDay
@UserbyDay 2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds maybe like best turn one cards? My vote would be Mystic Remora or Esper Sentinel
@MrPlow11778
@MrPlow11778 2 жыл бұрын
@@UserbyDay Sol Ring
@MayorMerculies
@MayorMerculies 2 жыл бұрын
@@UserbyDay Serra Ascendant is a great turn 1. Inkmoth Nexus is another one that makes my play group groan. Start off turn 0 discussion, everyone agrees that they are okay with Infect, then they all freak out when I turn 1 an Inkmoth Nexus. The groans only get worse when I play Blighted Agent on turn 4 after making sure all opponents have at least 1 Poison counter.
@dirtyfrench2926
@dirtyfrench2926 2 жыл бұрын
Burgeoning turn 1
@Fibirdnacci-sequence
@Fibirdnacci-sequence 2 жыл бұрын
I think Elesh Norn should have been higher, because it shuts down a whole breed of deck. Any token deck that isn’t making 3/3s or more, is now gone. No chance to buff, no chump blocking, just gone.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 2 жыл бұрын
Beezy literally hit the nail on the head there, I use OG kozilek in like four of my decks purely for the sake of reshuffling my grave...
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
He knows his stuff!
@vincentrutledge9445
@vincentrutledge9445 2 жыл бұрын
Hoof is just a ridiculous magic card. I do not think it is toxic enough to be banned but I have easily won most games from playing or tutoring a Craterhoof Behemoth .
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
I agree not toxic but still insane!
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 жыл бұрын
Finale of devastation might as well be lumped in.
@calemr
@calemr 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite Craterhoof moment was in an Esix, Fractal Bloom deck. Swung a Nacatl War Pride at a squirrel token deck. Produced about 100 Craterhoof behemoth's tapped and attacking, spread among my opponents.
@mth4456
@mth4456 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Grave Titan meme on this channel especially since the first time I felt powerful magic was with Grave Titan and Meren. So for me it's always been a fun card I don't play anymore but the hate for it is entertaining
@jessesandburg
@jessesandburg 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE TIER LISTS!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Love you
@King_Deadpoolio
@King_Deadpoolio 2 жыл бұрын
Gisela is half damage rounded up so 1 damage is still one damage. Still amazing I’ve played her as a commander for 4 years now and she’s never disappointed.
@jamesoakley9333
@jamesoakley9333 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my original 3 edh decks together.... albeit they have changed a lot since new Phyrexia and the pre-cons dropped. Ghave- teysa orzov scion- jhoria of the ghitu.
@etaphoenix7461
@etaphoenix7461 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. It‘s Zero, because you rounded up the amount of damage you prevent. 0,5 damage rounded up =1 damage you prevent. Thats Zero damage to you or a permanent you control.
@King_Deadpoolio
@King_Deadpoolio 2 жыл бұрын
@@etaphoenix7461 upon a quick rules search you are correct and I’ve misread this card for years apparently
@Silently_Games
@Silently_Games 2 жыл бұрын
Fiery Emancipation is one of my favorite cards in my xenagos dragon deck and it lets me one shot people with multiple cards in my deck if they have 7 or more power
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
It is so awesome!
@christianlishen1280
@christianlishen1280 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is a pretty fair card. it would definitely go into just about any token deck with white. For me I would put it into my Thalisse deck. I don't run a lot of haste enablers if there even are any that could go into the deck and I don't think I have any "tap" outlets so if I play this card early a victory would been seen coming for at least a turn. the only instant win I can see with this for me is a late game when I already have my board state built up. So for me and my playgroup this is a great card. That being said in faster or more aggressive play groups/metas this would for sure be a instant removal piece or a 7 mana I win card. So I would say it definitely depends on your meta and play group and how well they know how you like to play.
@poutinemcflurry3544
@poutinemcflurry3544 2 жыл бұрын
One of the scariest moments in my entire life was when two of my opponents each played a bolas's citadel, and I was sure I was going to lose very soon. Thankfully, I was playing Volo and I top-decked rec sage, so it worked itself out before things got too out of hand (Although neither of them got to play anything off it, so I made a couple enemies that day.)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
That is the best top deck!
@questor842
@questor842 2 жыл бұрын
I was playing in a Grand Prix commander side event, and we all had Consecrated Sphinxes on the table. More than one judge who walked by double backed to see just why it looked like all of us were just casually thumbing through our deck.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds miserable
@cloudycalcifer7799
@cloudycalcifer7799 2 жыл бұрын
Torment of hailfire too bad for the list ?
@plain6677
@plain6677 2 жыл бұрын
Second part
@daytonaritcheson238
@daytonaritcheson238 2 жыл бұрын
This one was sooooo good you nerds explain pros and cons so well!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really appreciate you saying so!
@DarthChocolate15
@DarthChocolate15 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to see Niv-Mizzet Parun in part 2. Has a major color requirement, but drawing off your own spells as well as your opponents is silly good, plus it has a built in win condition and removal ability, and that's before you even consider it can combo.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
He is really strong
@mfitkin
@mfitkin 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone tell you guys not to say money annoyingly? 😂 because it seems like you’re doubling down on it, maybe even tripling down
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I told Joe that 😂
@Redragonclaws
@Redragonclaws 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think extra turns make for well designed finishers. If your win con causes your friends to get on their phones rather than scoop up their cards, it’s probably subtracting from the fun of the game.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 2 жыл бұрын
I’d never ask anyone to stop playing a deck or an effect but I will say my least favorite thing in commander is extra turns, especially when stacked on top of each other with no real win con. Very frustrating.
@bijaaaaanae
@bijaaaaanae 2 жыл бұрын
You're never casting It That Betrays tho, it doesn't have the shuffle text like the other titans so you CAN reanimate it. Paired with cards like merciless execuitioner, its just insane
@andrewroy9263
@andrewroy9263 2 жыл бұрын
Why wizards? Why is it not a zombie? It has zombies coming out of where organs should be!!!
@willstebbins5338
@willstebbins5338 2 жыл бұрын
Still can’t get over how bonkers Avenger of Zendikar is with Adrix and Nev and Esix out. Absolutely ridiculous and the widest I’ve gone maybe ever, I ended up with over 400 21/22 plants in a single turn
@christopherealy8025
@christopherealy8025 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a new series? I would 💘 to see more of these.
@Karnage420111
@Karnage420111 Жыл бұрын
Why no Jin gitaxias core augur (or however you spell dat shit)
@faperito2389
@faperito2389 2 жыл бұрын
I play bolas's citadel in a deck made to win 95% of the times it resolves in the same turn. Card is bonkers, easily my favorite of the list!!
@NinjaTerd473
@NinjaTerd473 2 жыл бұрын
I had a turn three Bolas's Citadel once. It followed a turn two K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, and it was followed by Tendrils of Agony at Storm 4.
@sw33tshar3
@sw33tshar3 2 жыл бұрын
I would buff Grave Titan by making it a zombie and giving all your zombies deathtouch
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 жыл бұрын
Lifelink would be sick
@jerryleganker4630
@jerryleganker4630 2 жыл бұрын
Only way to make it playable lol
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 2 жыл бұрын
a good magic player would leave Grave titan out of their decks. a GREAT magic player would make the damn thing useful xD
@charliemarlow647
@charliemarlow647 2 жыл бұрын
Recently won a game with a Fiery Emancipation, Inferno of the Star Mounts and Chandra's Ignition and it was glorious!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Spicy.
@BradTheBrave1024
@BradTheBrave1024 2 жыл бұрын
Primal surge is one of my favorite green cards. I have it in an Animar morph with only permanents deck. Beezy is absolutely correct it is a nuclear bomb.
@thomasburry5680
@thomasburry5680 Жыл бұрын
I love it when they crap on Grave Titan. It makes me happy!
@Thejaycee74
@Thejaycee74 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nerds, where would you put sun titan on this tier list?
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 жыл бұрын
Fiery emancipation going in my minsc and boo deck coming out in CL2
@Customerbuilder
@Customerbuilder 2 жыл бұрын
I like Primal Surge. It used to break the social contract of "no combos." But, now, I think it's far more acceptable to have a single card that can "close out games" than before. I played it in an enchantress deck (Uril). I think that's still viable; Utopia Sprawl and its ilk, Kenrith's Transformation etc. Then, close out the game with Fervor and True Conviction.
@mfsoab
@mfsoab 2 жыл бұрын
What about Akroma's Memorial? Similar to True Conviction plus double evasion and protection for just 1 mana more, but more universally usable due to its colorlessness. It's basically a top end auto include in every combat based deck in my humble opinion
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to give it a try seems cool
@imikoimo6685
@imikoimo6685 2 жыл бұрын
I play Villainous Wealth in my Kadena morph deck. So far it's my most consistent win con, since i've build this deck around massive and fast ramp. In most cases X is around 15-20 and thats ends most of the games. I also like to copy it for extra value.
@peshomighty5051
@peshomighty5051 Жыл бұрын
Deck list
@Qazplm601MC
@Qazplm601MC 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, loved the Primal Surge section. "THERE'S A NUCLEAR BOMB IN MY DECK, AND IF I EVER DRAW IT AND PLAY IT, YOU LOSE THE GAME.". Also, I'd love a part two, and I nominate Genesis Wave! After its cousin Villainous Wealth was disgraced, it must restore honor to its name!
@thomasdick6797
@thomasdick6797 2 жыл бұрын
Avenger is poop tier, I've never felt good resolving it. Even when I played it years ago. Edit: I also wanted to say that you guys aren't talking about how great these guys are as reanimation targets, it that betrays turn 2 is WAYYYY better than turn 2 sphinx imo. It's just a free win if it doesn't get spot removed immediately as you take turns deleting people
@TCVxPRIDE
@TCVxPRIDE 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Reanimation decks like Meren could easily manipulate cards like Avenger or Grave Titan. The ranking of some of these is definitely different in different decks.
@thomasdick6797
@thomasdick6797 2 жыл бұрын
@@TCVxPRIDE yeah, just wanted to say that because most of the cards they talk about how good cards are in their respective decks, but ignored that for the creatures. Like primal for example
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Well reanimation targets are different but I get what you mean
@nichodemus10
@nichodemus10 2 жыл бұрын
List order is mostly fine, except that you can't have more S tier options than other options by definition of S Tier. You should move citadel and sphinx down to A, and you should rename D to poop, and poop to not a haymaker. (For this list, S Tier needs to be scoop on the stack to as it invalidates the other haymakers and only your top 4 (I would probably exclude hulk, but if you have sac outlet on the board I guess) really do that.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Well this would be true if we covered all options but we didn’t. There are a lot of haymakers so this does not prove any flaw in our system nor is this tier list anything but fun
@pajoulrod
@pajoulrod 2 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite commander story involving Rise of the Dark Realms was one time at my LGS one of my friends gave me their Edgar Markov deck and the others were playing Anowan, Yawgmoth, and the Ur-dragon. The Yawgmoth player cast Rise of the Dark Realms and I subtlety ask him "How many creatures do you think you're gonna get?" and he responds with as many as he can. So he chooses all the creatures and goes down to a SINGLE point of life, tries to resolve all the etb's and I say, "In response, tap this sac a creature, you lose 2 life and I gain 2 life." With the biggest grin on my face and the entire table ERUPTED in laughter. The dudes face was PRICELESS
@richardbaker2085
@richardbaker2085 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dont forget everyone clapped in the end
@Kurotekken
@Kurotekken Жыл бұрын
My favorite is: I'm up against Kharador. Battlefield's empty, graveyards loaded. My only relevant permanents are a mana reflection and a single mountain untapped. He topdecks rise of the dark realms. I reverberate. To this day, reverberate is long gone, but I refuse to take that mountain out of my deck.
@campbellsmith403
@campbellsmith403 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis guys. Besides grave titan of course. You always miss the mark on that one. I’ll play you with my grave titan tribal deck one day and you’ll be sorry
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we’ll be sorry FOR you 😄
@lthammox
@lthammox 2 жыл бұрын
This idea of just conceding to a card like Expropriate or to some power play is lame. Yes, it often leads to a victory, but not always. Anyways, conceding when the game approaches the endgame is somewhat unsportsmanlike. I almost always let people play out their deck, and I can’t count the times when they didn’t win afterall because we all stayed in the game.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be really bad about that but I’ve gotten much better since playing so much more. I’m still a mega spike but I’m much better about letting people win without just tilting and conceding.
@V2ULTRAKill
@V2ULTRAKill 2 жыл бұрын
If they arent winning off expropriate they didnt do it right It should win every cast unless someone rifts the board and you played it without leaving counterspell mana open Also most players who plan to win blatantly ask "Ok if you cant answer this, do you really want me to play out the next 10 minutes, or shuffle up and go next"
@thechief5670
@thechief5670 2 жыл бұрын
My bro did 176 damage to me Sunday with his Craterhoof Chulane deck Craterhoof is nasty as fuck, I had no creatures and was literally minding my business ramping in my Xantcha deck and he shot that at me :(
@plain6677
@plain6677 2 жыл бұрын
We have all been there. Though I’ve seen many players deconstructing their Chulane/Craterhoof deck since it’s “easy mode” and a bit boring after a while.
@FrankVrep
@FrankVrep 2 жыл бұрын
I play Warp World in my xyris deck. Usually I have plenty of tokens to count towards my permanents and due to the high amount of draw in the deck it never really bothers me to draw it at the wrong time. I know people have different opinions about this card, but I absolutely love to resolve it
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
It is soooooo long to resolve but good in decks like that
@rightmerk4192
@rightmerk4192 2 жыл бұрын
Genesis wave is one of my favorites that you left out
@cephalopad
@cephalopad 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see how they rate Torment of Hailfire. Oh well, maybe it will appear on the next list.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Episode 2!!
@mightyone3737
@mightyone3737 2 жыл бұрын
Grave Titan being bad feels 2 parts truth, 1 part meme. It has very few places where it really makes sense, since the whole shebang dies to any wipe nearly (though not Retribution of the Meek! I JUST BROKE GRAVE TITAN! Ahem). Rampaging Baloths is okay, but Scute Swarms are WAY better, so SO MUCH better. You run Baloths because you want a budget option, or need more options than Scute Swarm and Field of the Dead for your landfall. It's too easy to just kill the Baloth and move on. Is the enchantment that makes a 2/2 better than Baloths, simply because the generator sticks around longer usually? Zendikar's Roil! Anyways, I think if you're on Budget Landfall Combo, Baloths are fine as a wincon you play out the turn you're going to win, to generate infinite bodies. If you are playing it out for value, expect it to die quickly (but if it doesn't die, and you keep hitting lands in your inexplicably 36 lands Gruul Landfall deck, then sure it'll close I guess). Also, no Stasis?
@AndiParkour
@AndiParkour 2 жыл бұрын
Sidenote for fiery emancipation. Its really nice when you can set up a oneshot kill with your 7+ power commander like gishath
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 жыл бұрын
They said this in the video. It's a one shot kill with any 7 power commander
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s awesome!
@sweetjamin01
@sweetjamin01 2 жыл бұрын
From an Old NY're: Keep hustling. You fellas are doing it right.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
We always hussling
@MarvelOfRain
@MarvelOfRain Жыл бұрын
Interesting tier list, but a bit unfocused IMO. All the 6 drops don't really belong here - I mean why is Etali here but no Blightsteel? We have Villanous Wealth, but no of the other end the game X spells (also think Wealth is miles better then Nicol Bolas for example, have both of them in the same deck and only one of them actually consistently wins games). We have True Conviction sitting comfortably in the B tier even though I haven't seen it played for the last ten years, but stuff like Avacyn, Kozilek or Zendikar Resurgent (actual most played EDHREC 6+ staples according to the quick search) are not included. I think a bit narrower definition would work much better like: "spells that can win you the game", "spells that can swing the game when top decked" or "spells to ramp into".
@sharpie11112
@sharpie11112 2 жыл бұрын
Blightsteel?
@bobbyscissors8509
@bobbyscissors8509 2 жыл бұрын
Poor G titan
@JustRightPinedo
@JustRightPinedo 2 жыл бұрын
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@mikephillips1043
@mikephillips1043 2 жыл бұрын
Never understand the grave titannhate 6/6 for 6 gets 2 zombies and 2 on attack. And in.zombie tribal theres no other haymaker. My.zombie tribal is my favorite deck too so he's like a C for me. Not craterhoof obviously but not poop. Maybe its because I dont play p7 decks I am lioe 4-6 range I dont like playing games with infinite combos in my decks just playing cards you like and combat heavy. I play Darkness in my black deck just because I find peoples reactions to having black fog when they think they've won.
@jasonmattis4895
@jasonmattis4895 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, I'd actually consider grave titan stronger than rampaging baloths. It really depends on the deck, though, but more bodies is stronger with mass pump than the bigger token. They're both relatively similar and low teir on the bomb scale, though. Infact I'd put them on par with like cloudgoat ranger and siege gang commander. Army of the damned is much bigger and dumber. 13 2/2 zombies.
@daveschaefer4997
@daveschaefer4997 2 жыл бұрын
I also wouldn't play Primal Surge or Warp World BUT the restriction of only permanents is actually very fun to build. My Muldrotha and Vaevivctis Asmadi the Dire decks are only permanents and they're very fun to play and build.
@Customerbuilder
@Customerbuilder 2 жыл бұрын
Rampaging Baloths should be poop tier. If Grave Titan is 10 power for 6 without Landfall, then becomes 14 power for 6 on the next turn without Landfall, how can Baloths be better? The tokens are better, but to get that benefit you must have a land in hand AND cast it a turn later (so a land drop is available).
@odyseeus
@odyseeus 2 жыл бұрын
Where do we get the word “haymaker” from? Farmers are supposed to be devastating?
@ImAlexhearmemehYT
@ImAlexhearmemehYT Жыл бұрын
Why would you play inferno titan over Drakuseth? Drakuseth is 1 R more flying, +1/+1, and 10 damage across 3 targets. It's a dragon too so dragon support for this guy
@lysander3262
@lysander3262 2 жыл бұрын
I get no Replenish. I get no Scrap Mastery. But you're seriously gonna leave off LIVING DEATH? This is worse than that time they forgot about Dre, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit
@ConstanceMists
@ConstanceMists 2 жыл бұрын
Bolas’s Citadel has won me so many games of commander its not even funny. I don’t play it in every black deck for that exact reason, it just buries people, and if you’ve got sumn like Viscera Seer up with it you’re annihilating ppl w advantage
@user-tl4ze2vq9i
@user-tl4ze2vq9i 2 жыл бұрын
I have an Aurelia the Warleader deck and she just wrecks!!! actually had to detune it, because she could combo with a ham and a sandwich, white is also full of tutors for the equipment needed to combo off and silence effect to protect the combo. Not strong enough to sit at cedh table, unfortunately, and quite race inducing at casual tables. So I removed all combos except for sword of heart and home
@ChubbyPride
@ChubbyPride 2 жыл бұрын
You guys didn’t wish me a happy birthday in this one 😭😭😭 JK love the content and although Grave Titan is not necessarily a poop card…. I love you.
@pseudonym7606
@pseudonym7606 2 жыл бұрын
Craterhoof behemoth, the blueprint? No man, missed opportunity crater hoof behemoth is the HOOF PRINT
@dominicius77
@dominicius77 2 жыл бұрын
Good tier list. My only controversial opinion is that Boneyard Parley is better than Rise of the Dark Realms. The impact is still substantial enough to impact your win % while also being easier to actually put on the stack.
@jonsol8471
@jonsol8471 2 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is you don't like Grave Titan?? It's got deathtouch! Like do you even magic??🤣🤣🤣
@bladetb3934
@bladetb3934 2 жыл бұрын
Just the other day I cast expropriate and didn't win. I did however kill the player who threatened me earlier. It was literally the last card in my hand and I proceeded to draw lands on all 3 of my extra turns, and the permanent I stole was a land. Given the same opportunity I'd do the same thing 100% of the time.
@solidraven6986
@solidraven6986 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so conflicted over either using aurelia or giada for an angel tribal. Ive won with aurelia but I feel the salt everytime I play her and giada isnt tested (in my experience) and plus its mono white. So eh lol which one in ur opinion is better for an angel deck?
@magicsinglez
@magicsinglez Ай бұрын
Is the red card, ‘gain control of all creatures until und of turn, they have have haste’ is that card banned from this format?
@stevenfairhaven6388
@stevenfairhaven6388 2 жыл бұрын
Commander is complicated I wish there was someway you know how you have golf pros and tennis pros I wish there was someway they were people you should be able to make money yet it could give lessons it’s a one to one game so give lessons on building a deck playing a hand just don’t charge that much money charge enough to cover your expenses and make some money but I think it would be a great thing I would pay to learn Because it’s awful embarrassing to walk in to a store and sit down to play and not really know what you’re doing and and feel overwhelmed i’d love to get better at it and learn how to enjoy it more
@gary6631
@gary6631 Жыл бұрын
I feel like expropriate should be above craterhoof. It’s hated because it’s too good and unfun. It’s craterhoof without needing a board before casting it.
@stevenfairhaven6388
@stevenfairhaven6388 2 жыл бұрын
And you talk about kids call it nowadays but I always thought Magic would be the bridge for the older generation as we age it’s such an intellectual game and actually there’s a rehab place that my wife works at that as people had strokes learn how to play magic to keep your mind sharp into rehab their minds so it’s a fascinating thing for the older generation to learn and I always thought it would be the next bridge and would take over the game of bridge but it hasn’t so far your thoughts
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 2 жыл бұрын
"No ones playing Dictate of Heliod" Me who just picked up dictate of Heliod for my Mono White Token Deck: :(
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 2 жыл бұрын
it that betrays so so cool for one reason: it does not care. rest in peace, no was still saced, send commander to command zone, it will still find you. it's the most hilarious thing if you see someone sac their commander when you have it that betrays and you say give me that card its mine now and they answer no its not in the grave just for you to explain them how it that betrays really works. if you closely look at tergrids text you see that she says specifically from the grave.
@adambandurak8913
@adambandurak8913 2 жыл бұрын
You missed Food Chain, Torment of Hailfire, and Walking Ballista. If they resolve, the game ends.
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 10 ай бұрын
pentarch paladin. it is haymaker strength for only 5 mana. maybe its in gray area very close to haymaker. powerful ability.
@andrewmurray9898
@andrewmurray9898 Жыл бұрын
I love cheating in Fiery Emancipation with Electrodominace in my Tor Wauki burn deck.
@dynerobe
@dynerobe 2 жыл бұрын
Omniscience is really good, but it's not an instant game winner, like they said, you need to have a good hand that turn to get it's full affect, or someones blowing it up next turn
@AG-vk5or
@AG-vk5or 4 ай бұрын
Love the video. Small request: can you leave up the card on the screen as you discuss it rather than just have the thumbnail up
@farty555
@farty555 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, craterhoof is great but is totally reliant on your board state. If a wipe hits and you have nothing on board, it's a dead card in hand.
@thefirsted
@thefirsted 2 жыл бұрын
If you're thinking grave titan is poop I'm thinking you don't have a scarab god deck.
@Kurotekken
@Kurotekken Жыл бұрын
Out of all these cards, I hate void winnower so much. It's the one card here that makes me actively angry every time I see it in a game.
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 жыл бұрын
Bolas’ Citadel = Channel + Draw cards until you draw two lands.
@sharkmanyt4431
@sharkmanyt4431 2 жыл бұрын
No it’s way better than that
@kingginger3335
@kingginger3335 2 жыл бұрын
It That Betrays is a worse version of Tergrid, so you could make an argument for putting her on the list lol
@raresux
@raresux 2 жыл бұрын
just started watching the video and i already know you guys are putting grave titan in poop tier LMAO
@TinyLegs15243
@TinyLegs15243 2 жыл бұрын
Villainous wealth has great synergy with Zaxara if you can create infinite mana with a card like free from the real.
@alphalegion8446
@alphalegion8446 2 жыл бұрын
Is nitpicking nerds videos just complaining about good cards these days?
@p.darker5306
@p.darker5306 2 жыл бұрын
I need to make a deck with all of these cards. Doesn’t matter how bad it is just want to see how really broken these cards are lol
@uphillwalrus5164
@uphillwalrus5164 2 жыл бұрын
I play Hulk in cedh and I don’t understand why anyone would want to play that strategy in casual
@tylerisdrawing9913
@tylerisdrawing9913 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see Chandra's Ignition/Torment of Hailfire on here
@justinjones671
@justinjones671 2 жыл бұрын
Where is command the dreadhorde isn't that possibly better rise of the dark relms?
@robby6382
@robby6382 2 жыл бұрын
I like elesh norn but I always find other cards to run before her in my go wide decks
@jasonlevesque6340
@jasonlevesque6340 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Citadel, but it does require BBB, so it doesn't fit in most decks.
@danielbull8509
@danielbull8509 2 жыл бұрын
It sucks you have to untap!... it sucks you win that turn. Can't win lol
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks 2 жыл бұрын
Once again grave titan is so.. good you guys crap yourselves, and create a poop tier.
@mrfriedchicken5162
@mrfriedchicken5162 2 жыл бұрын
Void winnower has to easily be one of the cards that I hate playing against the most.
@zerobeat98
@zerobeat98 2 жыл бұрын
would have loved to see insurrection and storm herd make it on the list! @Nerds, where would you put those comparatively?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
You will have to wait for part 2 lol
@JustRightPinedo
@JustRightPinedo 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, context matters and just cuz something is "C tier" or below doesn't mean don't play. Among the list in this video 4 total are represented among my decks. Avenger, and Baloths both do great in LF decks (catch being you always want to cast when you have at least one LF trigger left/haste); Animatou's arg, wins me the game in my proliferate deck b/c card types are very evenly distributed so I've never hit less than 4 targets, including land, with that and it's always something relevant. Emancipation has won me ~4 games in my "lower powered" Firesong deck by burning the rest of the world and gaining 13xN life etc. (N=board wipe or 52 by dropping a meteor on my own Brash Taunter/stuffy D etc).
@JustRightPinedo
@JustRightPinedo 2 жыл бұрын
*realizing they rated Fiery at B tier, but point stands. Also, Animatou's just feels fun which is another bonus...Tefferi + vorinclex/deepglow skate just starts you running wild as opposed to shutting off the game for everyone else.
@sambrown9475
@sambrown9475 2 жыл бұрын
I love how y'all put grave daddy on this list just to give it the poop Tier lmao
@slavisatosanovic2672
@slavisatosanovic2672 2 жыл бұрын
Consecrated Sphinx is one of the primary targets in Thrasios/Tymna cedh Reanimator (just behind Razaketh)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Ewwww so gross lol
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