No, Ahsoka is NOT as Good as Andor

[@Geshiko-GuP]

Also can we talk about that Andor finally gives stormtroopers the respect they deserve AND everyone with a gun actually acknowledges they have guns and use common sense like TAKING COVER and SHOOTING YOUR GUN

[@antonalexander3795]

And the stormtroopers do this good ol war tactic called aiming. And BOY are they good at it in this show

[@arneczool6614]

@@antonalexander3795 And exactly as in the most part of the original trilogy, the empire is a SERIOUS threat - I still remember how especially Vader threatened the hell out of me when they initially came out.

[@Inv1ns1bl]

Disney writers just made them a complete joke, canonically they should be the absolute best soldiers in the galaxy.

[@omarbaba9892]

They didn’t take cover in Andor. They’re literally just standing above a massive crowd of civilians and firing into them Not fighting super human, telepathic space wizards with laser swords that can redirect their fire back at them. Their defeat in ahsoka made perfect sense

[@arneczool6614]

@@omarbaba9892 In Andor, they didn't take cover as basically not a single civillian had a gun - so no need to take cover

[@rogeriopenna9014]

Just to show HOW TIGHT Andor writing was, check this dialogue from episode 4, the first scene showing Dedra Meero on that ISB meeting room. ISB Supervisor: On a positive note, I was impressed with your DETENTION NUMBERS from Sov Tok. Far ABOVE THE QUOTA. I may be sending more of that sort of work your way." That was episode 4. Just a LITTLE dialogue that most people don´t even pay attention (because it would be filler in most shows), which EXPLAINS what will happen to Cassian in episode 7. The ISB has detention quotas! And ISB officers trying to climb the ladder push for the quotas to be surpassed, the pushing probably goes down to local judges and troops. Resulting in the arrest of anyone that looks like it's not important enough to be noticed.

[@seaninflorida9741]

That's a great point. I didn't notice it on the first watch-through.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

@@seaninflorida9741 neither did I. I was watching an Andor reaction and the reactor said "wow, so they are arresting people for no reason?" It was episode 4 so I was mouth open when she said that, I rewinded the KZbin video to listen again the dialogue. Shit I couldn't believe it.

[@1973vanguard]

what makes Andor so good? Gilroy uses a third rate, forgotten about, one note character, and uses him as a conduit to tell the stories of the other characters. And that approach was OBSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. Andor is THE BEST STAR WARS live action TV show to date

[@s.patterson5698]

Hands down, the best!!!

[@nutmegriot209]

thought you might mean Mon Mothma until you said him. Really love what he did with her character (not easy to do), but yeah, using Cassian as a conduit has been genius

[@s3p4kner]

Star Wars was always written for kids, but Andor takes the approach that fans have grown older, wiser, jaded? and is still determined to take us on an adventure. It's a shame that so many people found it too slow or boring and stopped watching half way through. Ahsoka has even worse figures... somehow.

[@Angel_Love6680]

Period!

[@derekfreeman1942]

No 👎🏽 it's really not. That would be Mandalorian season 1/2

[@darko-man8549]

Because Andor is about unknown characters, it doesn't try to force in all the "member berries" with every sentence

[@aridianknight3576]

It has plenty of those if you dig deep but it’s all super subtle

[@darko-man8549]

@@aridianknight3576 exactly, subtle, but that’s not how “‘member berries” are

[@arneczool6614]

It still has quite a couple of easter eggs and returning set-details, like the cameras in Bix'es cell ... and basically all of Luthens store is packed full with nostalgia ... but in a place where it really belongs to. And where you only recognise it if you watch carefully ...

[@ryanspencer6778]

And the Easter eggs are deep cuts too. They're not like "remember that time in the Clone Wars when...", they're one word references to things like the Rakata, who even if you're a big Star Wars nerd you might not have heard of. And it all makes sense in context.

Dude. Lt. Gorn fell in love for a native, and then the empire killed her. That's his motivation.

[@thegrunbeld6876]

Blue Balls Gorn

[@justinarita8153]

How is this even a debate?

[@CaptainKillroy]

Yeah. I agree.

[@thephatalien]

100 %

[@oldmandan7057]

It's not

[@blackcrowvol2281]

Anbor is not Star Wars.🥱😴🤣

[@CaptainKillroy]

@@blackcrowvol2281 Then what is?

[@biIIybob858]

This needs more views instead of those stupid react channels that cry over anakin saying “snips”

[@jmalmsten]

"I can't swim" is a line that I will remember a long time after seeing Andor.

[@rustyrolla5432]

Andor is so far above and beyond anything Disney has made it's honestly a genuine shock. Dave filoni Star Wars is kind of like a kid playing with his action figures

[@DouglasMueller]

I wish this was the consistent narrative from fans- instead I’m pretty sure the Filoni fandom is winning, with these terrible shows with crap acting, awful scripts and childish plot.

[@blackcrowvol2281]

Andor or what i like to call Anbor is not Star Wars. Star Wars is 1. Action 2. Adventure 3. Good vs Evil

[@Cre8ive_mode]

You just described the Fast and Furious Franchise- perhaps there's even more to Star Wars than expected? Star Wars talks of diplomats, the Senate, chancellors, Viceroys, separatists, rebellions, emperors and empires. Not hyperspace whales. @@blackcrowvol2281

[@Golfballtauchen]

@@blackcrowvol2281Nobody, not you and not me can tell what Star wars really is, because everyone thinks different. My Star Wars is not like Marvel with no substance. Star Wars is deep, its like Andor, its dark and dirty. Thats my Star Wars now, I dont need fanservice because the series are bad without it. I need Andor, Rouge One and all the Drama Series. Not that superficial star wars, what its nowdays.

[@blackcrowvol2281]

@@Golfballtauchen Andor or Anbor is not Star War. The original trilogy is Star Wsrs. I don't even count the Rey movies because they are 🗑️

[@ocadioan]

The thing about Andor is that the story and characters _had_ to be great to make it. As you said, barely anyone has even heard of the cast, so you can't fall back on nostalgia to draw in fans. The writers knew this and understood that without this crutch, they absolutely had to make the story and characters worthwhile to catch your attention. The same was true with Mandalorian S1. I am not saying that _because_ it had no name characters, it was great. I am saying that it having no name characters _required_ it to be great to even be greenlit.

[@Sandman_Mr.]

That's really interesting. I never thought about that.

[@kirkdarling4120]

That makes it sound like the writers of Andor were just not lazy, rather than actually being better. I think they are actually better writers.

[@nitpicker42]

~8:25 you say that Gorn "lost an imperial promotion, and is now mad at the empire" No, his motivation was that he fell in love with one of the Aldhani locals, who was killed by Imperials

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Val says, “He lost the job, then he lost the girl, then he lost his love for the empire.”

[@RTDKRunner]

Andor is a masterpiece. Asoka falls on all basic levels of craftmanship: plotting, storytelling, pacing, theme, atmosphere, fight choreography , dialogue and acting

[@s.patterson5698]

That about sums it up....agreed!!!

[@racializedkanadian]

Horrible music editing / score too .... by comparison.

[@JonS]

I hear the on-set catering was quite good

[@racializedkanadian]

@@JonS lol

[@purple3018]

Oh, so literally everything. Makes sense!

[@joeytoogood9198]

I also did this. At around ep 4 of Ahsoka I decided to watch Andor again with someone who hadn't seen it before. And it was the best decision, it really shows how hollow Ahsoka feels. And how poor Ahsoka looks compared. It's not much to ask for such expensive shows to be good, and look good

[@Zet237yt]

I recently re-watched Andor with my best friend, who had never seen it before. It was about two weeks after the finale of Ahsoka. I have pretty much indifferently forgotten most of Ahsoka, but catch myself thinking about Andor constantly.

[@ggt47]

I will never watch Ahsoka I just watched everyones criticisms of it.

[@Zealot2024]

That monologue at the end of Andor single handedly solidified it to me as the best star wars show to ever come out

[@arneczool6614]

Im still undecided about which monologue is best ... Luthen? Marva? Any Serkins? ... each of them alone was a masterpiece ... but woven into all the story and buildup we got in Andor??? Hell ... I'm still breathless whenever I watch it ... (And each of them hits harder then the laser of a deathstar ...)

[@3000-DEN]

​@@arneczool6614u forgot nemik's manifesto

[@arneczool6614]

@@3000-DEN Hell yes … 🫡

[@ghostbased332]

It is a damn shame seeing videos like this get overlooked and get barley any views despite seeing how much effort went into it and how good the production value is. The algorithm is shit but that doesn’t mean you stop trying, I’ve run a meme account on IG and despite my effort my posts only get about 30-50 consistently, but the way I look at is that those who do follow you are doing it for a reason, not because your some crazy big page, but because you earned it

[@Sandman_Mr.]

Thanks man! Really appreciate it!

[@Johten]

Fantastic video, I didn't know Andor S2 was written at the same time as S1, that's such a release. At least we know we will get ONE more ounce of good star wars 😭

[@maxgronros6728]

Andor also does something that i feel has been missing in star wars. It makes the star wars universe feel BIG, like an actual galaxy. Untill this show there have only been a few people that star wars have told stories about (In the disney era) and andor just comes in with this breth of fresh air. Instead of writing a story only to cram a beloved character into it to get more people watching it they make new charachters that actually fit the storys they have in mind

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes, people saw in Ahsoka characters they grew to love in the animations. But the live action characters of Ahsoka don''t even compare favorably with their own animated versions. Part of the problem in Ahsoka was the unbelievably flat acting. It's incredible how the animators did a better job conveying emotion than live actors. One example I note is the scene in Rebels where Ahsoka is re-united with her old Clone War buddy Captain Rex, nearly 20 years after they separated at the end of the Clone War, shortly after both of them narrowly surviving Order 66. The moment was full of palpable emotion: Moistening eyes, quivering lips, halting movements, then a sudden rush to a long and hard hug (as we saw in Andor when Cassian was reunited with Brasso)...and this was animation. Then in live action we see Sabine reunited with Ezra after ten years...and it's like two classmates who knew each other casually meeting again at their high school reunion. Flat. In the animations, Ahsoka is vibrant, emotional, sometimes angry, sometimes joyous. She's more like Anakin than like Yoda, because she's not a Jedi and doesn't pretend to be. At some point, they made her like a Jedi...and there went all the emotion as Rosario Dawson tried to emulate a _Jedi_ rather than Ahsoka. The other problem with this series is that it fails to tell its own story. This was the middle part of something begun in The Mandalorian season 3, and nobody knows what that is. It made the mistake of not telling its own compelling story. Andor was not just a series of events that occurred at the dawn of the rebellion, it was in itself a compelling story of how one man was transformed from a moral agnostic into a significant figure in that rebellion. And Andor even provided a compelling story of Mon Mothma, who had been only background character before...who knew her background story was so interesting. Not only did Ahsoka drop the ball on the excellent Ahsoka character that had already been created, it also dropped the ball on the newly interesting Mon Mothma character.

[@wisegamer706]

They should have just animated the Ashoka show and brought in the old voice actors.

[@Andor2022]

Andor is Masterpiece and not such a childish nonsense like Ahsoka

[@mootling8998]

they had some stupid things, like the space AKs and the lasers used to kill the tie fighters but absolutely one of the best SW content ever made. Good acting, realistic action, and an intriguing story. SW may be for kids but that doesn't mean you have to write a story like the people watching have 2 brain cells. It's just a cop-out for being a bad writer.

[@eiden5778]

I like both

[@AngryEwok]

@@mootling8998 so all other SW guns that were made out of real guns are OK, but a mix of MP40 and AK is DUMB?

[@mootling8998]

The problem is that they usually put more effort into making the gun seem more futuristic. That is literally an ak with an underfolder. It is a minor problem.

[@AngryEwok]

@@mootling8998 more effort? Lewis gun and MG42 literally obvious because there is zero changes to them. Sterling submachine gun has only short magazine, big scope and cooling radiator attached. Han Solo literally uses Mauser pistol.

[@pbh9195]

The problem with Andor is it's too good, so good it's infuriating why the same writing quality here wasn't put in the Filoni Favaru projects I love how morally grey this is compared to the mandalorian or boba Fett. At first I thought Disney wouldn't permit dark themes but Andor disproves that. The Acting too is also commended like there's real acting in this movie with a variety of emotions while most In the Mando-verse are sometime too hoockey like a cartoon brought to life ohhh wait

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

The other problem with it being so good is that it’s SO GOOD that Disney decided to end it in the second season, WHAT THE FUCK!!

[@GabesEdtiz]

@@pinkfloydguy7781 At least Disney won’t have the chance to drag it out and fuck it up.

[@arneczool6614]

Andor has ruined the standards for science fiction, just like Lord of the Rings has redefined medieval fantasy cinema ... it changed EVERYTHING - and there is only one way out: give us MORE ANDOR QUALITY STUFFFF 💗

[@dustronyt4565]

@@pinkfloydguy7781 disney didn't. It's writers and Gilroy specifically who decided that show needs only two seasons because they felt that's the right amount of time they need to tell the story they want to. Disney kinda forgot about their team located somewhere on another continent "they so fat and satisfied, they don't even care"

[@CharlieKnolesPlus]

Andor is so fucking amazing that I can barely believe that it came from the same studio as the other schlock.

[@demspookz8732]

Thing I appreciated most about Andor was it reinstated the badass elite status of stormtroopers, since for the bulk of the show we just see regular imperial troops but when we see stormtroopers we know shit’s getting real

[@ondrej_hrdina]

I completely with everything you are saying. People keep saying Ahsoka is good or great. I'm glad they like it, but...what was it about? I couldn't tell you a single theme it explored other than "master and apprentice" and "friendship", both very vaguely. Characters behave coldly. Everything feels a bit too artificial. I haven't seen Clone Wars or Rebels, so it seems to me like what people really like is seeing characters they know in live action. What is there other than that? Other than setting up more shows and movies? It's the trap MCU has fallen into. Andor is a miracle and boy do I hope we see more stuff like it. I have hope people will appreciate quality in the long term...right?

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes, people saw in Ahsoka characters they grew to love in the animations. But the live action characters of Ahsoka don''t even compare favorably with their own animated versions.

[@darko-man8549]

I genuinely believe that if there was no emotional attachment to the characters in Ahsoka people would come away saying "Thrawn was cool" and that's it

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@darko-man8549 I'm afraid that's true.

[@arneczool6614]

I did read nearly every book about Thrawn - and hell, what a great opponent he could be ... and then I watched Ahsoka ... I have no clue who that guy there is, but its not the tactical genious Thrawn is meant to be ...

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@arneczool6614 It takes talent to actually write the genius of a tactical genius. In "Ahsoka," they just keep telling the audience he's a tactical genius.

[@beto3707]

I would be thrilled to watch a feature film (Knights of the Old Republic?) with Tony Gilroy as the writer and Nicholas Britell as the composer. I want to see the same production team from Andor, including the cinematographer, art direction team, and visual/effects team, among others. Nick Gillard could act as the stunt coordinator with some lightsaber action. The movie would need a top-tier director or whomever, as long as they know what they are doing and can respect Gilroy's material. A skilled editor could tighten things up. The film should maintain the same essence as Andor, with an amazing, engaging storyline, characters making sense, and of course great action scenes.

[@mmmmythical]

Until you said this video was made before Ahsoka finished I was convinced it had come out after the final episode. Like your prediction was spot on, which sucks for the show but just goes to show how worn and predictable this new formula for making shows really is. I hope season 2 is as good, if not better.

[@charity6372]

Andor blew my mind. I loved it. ❤❤

[@ursinewarrior5573]

We didn't know how good we had it 8 months ago... *cough* The Acolyte *cough*

[@Keoniiii]

The lieutenant didn’t help the rebels because of a promotion. He lost the woman he loved because of the empire.

[@Valbuquerque]

Andor is Star Wars for adults. Wish it would become a new branch of the franchise - apart from lightsabers, pew-pews and childish stories.

[@jankossacki7270]

I'll return here after seeing Andor, probably shoul've watched it a while ago

[@TFAric]

Andor is the best Star Wars since 2005, change my mind.

[@saintricardo8746]

The only thing i love about Disney Star Wars is Rogue one and andor.

[@iSaintSabas]

Ashoka is a TV show and it’s pretty fun. Andor is three movies cut up into episodes. Andor is amazing.

[@D0CBEE]

That escape through the Asteroid shower or whatever it looks amazing. This show was good because it took itself seriously, like the original movies did. Everything else feelslike a parody. There's a great fan edit / movie made of Andor using the ehist as the climax. It's REALLY good.

[@WalterUnglaub]

"Ahsoka is not as good as Andor." In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

[@Alex-02]

12:58 Hell yeah I love that you included the new super Mario bros Wii world 6 theme music

[@blackpranther]

Disney didn’t deserve Andor

[@MidnightDoom777]

6:10 just a quick criticism. The two people Andor murdered and this person are both security agents of a corporation. They aren’t related to the empire

[@mrp1326]

Except every-2-second-cuts, this is a very good summary. I am happy that Aldhani heist is appreciated by you. My fear was that episode 6 could be very cringe, but it was the absolute opposite of that. It was masterfully executed and showed me that this show is something completely fresh and better than anything that has been made since Empire Strikes Back.

[@redacted9694]

10:06 OH MY GOD, I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE, just adds to the tragedy of Scarif, brilliant writing

[@bencarlson4300]

My only deep remaining connection with anything Disney is doing right now is Andor season 2. As long as they let that show finish well, they can do whatever other nonsense they want because I’m out.

[@qui-gonrick7002]

The other Star Wars shows rely on member berries. Andor is the kind of shoe they'll be doing member berries for. It's the only one that feels original and like something Lucas would have done. Doesn't hurt that it also reminds me of THX-1138.

[@ChromeWheelz1977]

I REALLY don't understand why younger generations insist on taking an OPINION, and stating it as though it's FACT. No, an opinion is NOT a fact. No, one show is not BETTER than another, you may have LIKED it more, but it's not possible to be BETTER, unless you're talking about mistakes in production, ie....someone messing up a line, and they just keep it in. Scenes that are shot out of focus, or the sound is so bad that you can't hear the dialogue, THAT'S a bad bad movie or show. But just because YOU didn't like it, that does NOT make it objectively BAD.

[@Swordmaster905]

Great video! Keep up the good work

[@SummonersOfficial]

You had me at Mr Sunday Movies

[@Lirky77]

One day I'll have the time to watch Andor again. Which is, as you said, one of the best shows ever (that I watched too). Pity free time is not very available as of now. But spot on video!

[@Dankergold]

This video was made amazingly, great work man!

[@Crysoft2]

Another thing we cannot forget is that Andor just like the George Lucas Star Wars media always has a sense of "It is bigger than that" which is missing for me in most Disney shows and movies. For example, when Andor enters the prison, the prison seems to be alive before he gets there. While when Ahsoka enters the shipyard it just seems like a prop to move the plot forward. I mean which hidden ex-imperial force just screams for the empire instead of making an attempt to hide it. Same goes for The clone wars show, each time a light saber is used you get a feeling that it is a very efficient tool for the jedi carrying it. Just think of Yoda slicing a repulsor in half, to disable a tank. Now in Obi-Wan it just seems like a hot beating stick that is pulled out to (look cool). For Mando in the beginning it seems like he is visiting certain places just for the sake of it (but it kinda works) and the series is at its best for me when they do the whole imperial base thing, because the base feels like its been there before and had an impact on the area. But then they just throw it away. All I am trying to say is most shows from Disney Star Wars feel like they are weird stage plays where locations and sometimes whole movements are just on stand by when the main characters are not interacting with them

[@edlb10]

andor, rogue one and original trilogy are star wars at it's peak

[@O6i]

andor was my fave series ever tbh. from the character development to the universe it was almost like star wears meets cyber punk meets rebellion. characters like Luthen and the scene where he takes down the empire ship with his sleeper build was awesome. the eye episode as well very well done. i guess im more of a fan of the people in star wars than i am of the force wielders now.

[@mathiasbartl9393]

Tony Gilroy who has an Oscar carefully picked a bunch of top tier writers. Filoni with few solo writing credits wrote the entire season himself.

[@wolfspiritrandom]

Live-action Star Wars TV shows ranked: 1. Andor Season 1 2. Mando Season 1 3. Mando Season 2 4. Ahsoka Season 1 5. Mando Season 3 6. Book of Boba Fett Season 1 7. Obi-Wan Kenobi Season 1

[@LordDoom10]

Ahsoka only has robots boxing each other. Andor has all the writing. There is no comparison.

[@ACrebel05]

I agree this show is amazing, I would give it a 9.3/10. I guess the only down side is Syril character, I'll explain. Don't get me wrong his character is wonderfully written but I feel like there was little use of him after the Morlana incident, but I'm torn on that point because it seems it was necessary for the 2nd season which I assume there will be a greater role for him, even then I'm still iffy on that counter point. Something else they did not do is add a useless cameo just for the sake of fan service. All in all this movie is amazing, great vid.

[@kristijan8518]

Andor is easily top 5 shows for me. On par with game of thrones, Battlestar Galactica and the expanse.

[@ryanjosephdp]

The fact that many star wars fans think this show "isn't Star Wars" blows my mind.

[@jonathandavis-po6js]

How can it be star wars? It does nothing

[@ryanjosephdp]

care to explain how?@@jonathandavis-po6js

[@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS]

​@@jonathandavis-po6jshow?

[@leonpeitz6813]

The only thing i watched twice from disney star wars are: rogue one and Andor, everything else just aint complex enough to watch it more than once

[@voljohe]

It’s a rare master piece. That is by far so intricate with details. If you live this I think you’ll love the Expanse.

[@bmarshy]

I personally really enjoyed Ahsoka, but I agree with you 100% that Andor is the type of storytelling and filmmaking that Disney needs to double down on. As you mentioned near the end of this video, for the average viewer to fully appreciate Ahsoka they would have to watch 7 seasons of The Clone Wars and 4 seasons of Rebels. With Andor, you can just jump in from anywhere and at anytime and it is a great piece of storytelling

[@The_BIaze]

I have never been as invested in Star Wars as I was in the Aldani Heist since I first watched Revenge of the Sith.

[@MoFiTheMagnificent]

Honestly, obi wan couldve been a great story. There was definitely enough to work with. A space wizard with ptsd and loneliness who is obligated to watch over this child in a wasteland of crime and villainy or suffer the consequences. They just gumbled the bag on that one

[@palpatinesforehead]

W - Andor is peak fiction

[@erikbannier2813]

It’s so nice to see some Star Wars media following established in universe logic and not just say space wales go to another galaxy

[@JasonWickham-k2z]

I like Andor better as a science fiction story, but I think Ashoka is the superior Star Wars story. IMO, of course.

[@treycarter6736]

Andor isn’t as good as everyone acts either. It’s not Citizen Kane, yet people act like it is. You aren’t smarter because you like it, the pacing being slower doesn’t make it a smarter show. People are just incredibly simple to trick nowadays.

[@TheMediaMonologue]

First time viewer and I absolutely love the style of your videos! Very excited to see more. I saw a short video recently where a guy made a good point that Ahsoka being a different kind of Star Wars show isn't an excuse for bad writing. The acting, direction, and tone can all be good regardless of what kind of show it is, and without all the cool Star Wars stuff, Ahsoka doesn't always stand on its own merits.

[@gwenmcgarry528]

I enjoyed ahsoka, but Andor is SO much better than ahsoka they aren't even comparable Your complaint about boba fett being about "politics" is finny considering what andor is about though lol

[@Korijenkins1414]

It's not. It's not trash like Obi-Wan, or Mando season 3, but it's not near Andor tier. Frankly, nothing is. Andor isn't just the best Star Wars show, it's one of the best science fiction shows of the last decade. Atm my tier is Andor, Mando 2, Mando 1, Ahsoka, Mando 3, Obi-Wan. Not including the cartoons, obviously, because it's hard to compare a cartoon to live action imo.

[@kahleeb624]

Asohka is basically just 8 episodes of set up and trailers for other movies that will probably not be good because jack hole Filoni is writing things and if you know the history of Filoni with Star Wars is that he sucks at writing. Yes, he has good ideas and interesting filiming and directing, but the truth is thats all hes good at and his writing is just flat out bad. And NO Filoni did NOT create clone wars, the was George Lucas and Rebels was again NOT written by Filoni. He gave ideas and story beats and the visuals but he was not a writer for these shows and his bad writing is on full display with Asohka. I have no issue with a show or movie setting up other shows and movies, but when you create a show that has dozens of mysteries you cant just leave it without ANY answers... Asohka was just a freakin trailer for other things and completely ruined it and made it feel like a waste of time when it ended with the bad guy winning and no mystery being answered. A great example would be Avengers: infinity war. It was a complete story that while still leaving things unanswered and the bad guy winning, they didnt just make Infinity war an entire movie made to set up the next. It did set up End Game, but you could still watch Infity war alone and it would still be a complete story with almost every mystery answered while also allowing a downer ending and setting up the next movie. But Asohka instead of having a complete story arc that also sets up the next show, it is just nothing but set up and has no complete story arc for anything. Plot points are randomly talked about and then forgotten, a mustery gets introduced and then continously hinted at but never answered at all. Things just happen instead of having a good reason too and when you have dozens of unanswered questions going into the final episode of an entire season, you've done something wrong... just a glorified trailer for what will most likely be an inevitable bad movies with Filoni writing. Filoni shoukd ABSOKUTRLY direct and give ideas. But his actual writing is horrible, bland and boring and contrived. He can sure direct but he needs to stay away from the head writer role....

[@s.patterson5698]

Yessss yes that scene in Rebels with Obi-wan was the best Obi-wan scene ever....damn THAT was goooood.

[@terrified057t4]

I still love when talking about Andor, if I decide to look at the comments for a bit, I'll find someone completely misunderstanding the point of Cassian trying to find his sister. I really wish schools didn't fail us so hard that I had to learn what a MacGuffin plot device was from an anime in 2017. Cassian's sister doesn't exist, just her survival was an idea that drove him early on to slip up like that so that the plot would go forwards. As Maarva said, he was the only survivor, his sister died with his tribe.

[@dejabu24]

250 million v 30 million for Obiwan ,

[@yamcha65]

idk to me Andor does not feel like Star Wars at all, I have a lot of issues with the state of live action star wars, and Andor as a show having a serious narrative and pacing is the best live action star wars in so long, but it just felt like scfi to me, not star wars. But yeah Ahsoka surely had a lot of problems, there were some cool moments and parts, but for me the biggest issue is how it just shoe horns Sabine and Ahsoka having this pre established relationship that just did not come across for me. And then the ending was just so rushed, it could have been paced so much better, and i agree that only Andor has taken advantage of TV pacing, which made its pacing next to perfect, the other shows often feel empty or like they are stretching things out, and rushing things at the end

[@bobisuncanny2760]

Dude idk what you're talking about, Andor ruined SW. Now everything sucks in comparison, heck even TCW which is a show that i love is ten times worse than Andor, at least it was constantly consistent in quality, last real good Live-Action product since Rogue One

[@madsketchy9261]

Comparing a Picasso to a 5 yo macaroni painting with a booger on it 🥴

[@paulothx138]

OK, you convinced me to watch this show.

[@dsokoll9184]

I loved Ahsoka, but it’s not even close. Andor is way better.

[@eclipped]

Andor really gives the true meaning for what a “Star Wars story” should be, something on the side that doesn’t effect the main story as much, where as the new shows are trying to incorporate themselves into the big picture and introduce plot holes for itself that just makes fans lose faith The tone and setting for this show was really what sold it for me, it feels EXACTLY like rogue one, which is what a prequel/sequel should feel like, Obi Wan should’ve had the same tone/dark vibe that revenge of the sith had

[@Marcos-ms1ij]

Really funny that there are people who defends Ahsoka with nails and teeth, sometimes even being lunatic about it, even though it's a series devoid of personality with characters that are with a smug most of the time.

[@jaiclary8423]

You correctly identified that Andor killed the imperial guardsmen in self-defense, and you didn't describe it as "murder", so you're already ahead of most Andor reviews. Have an upvote!

[@princesseuphemia1007]

I agree and disagree with you about Obi Wan Kenobi. What I mean by that is that there wasn't much interesting left to do with his story for an action packed live action TV show like Disney wanted to do but that doesn't mean there was nothing left interesting to explore in his story period. Instead they could have done a more calm, slow moving, introspective type of story about him that actually suits him and who he was while living on Tatooine but of course they couldn't do that because Disney, however an introspective, intimate story about his life on Tatooine would be wonderful to experience and while hard to pull off in film, would still be great to read in books at least. But that doesn't mean there is nothing left interesting about his story to tell between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. :)

[@mortenstenberg5452]

wait...was that music from Dark forces?

[@Mattsuki]

An excellent take for my collection!

[@Bubblegob]

I haven't seen Ahsoka, just Andor and the video miniatures about both shows. Andor was overlooked and dismissed by content creators for not being star warsy enough and not featuring recognizable characters until everyone came out of the woods with a video saying it's the most well-crafted, deep and intriguing piece of Star Wars made in a long time while Ahsoka was hyped and covered day one and every video title and miniature suggest a lukewarm reaction to this day.

[@jazzx251]

I just watched a "comparison" video about how both shows open ... One is intelligent, the other is dumb (no prizes for guessing which is which) I just completed Assassins Creed II - the "artifact" in Ahsoka is IDENTICAL to the "Apple of Eden" mcguffin from the game .. extremely lazy writing

[@DarthVader-m3o]

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[@DarthVader-m3o]

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[@neb985]

I think Ahsoka was way better than Book of Boba, Obi Wan, and Mando Season 3, but it had it's issues and the finale was definitely rushed as you said. Andor is definitely better than any of them by a long shot. The majority of criticisms about it are nitpicks at worst. It was captivating from start to finish.

[@Joopietron]

Nah when you found out he couldn’t swim that broke me😂☠️

[@Balrog2005]

Andor is made by adults for adults using SW as a background and it is good, as a serie, no at SW primary lore. Ashoka is made by a egomaniac who think that he is the guy that decide what SW is now, creating not logical/canon characters, making change in the canon and all as the same level that the first season of Rebels, a show only for childs and fanatics, directed and writed on the same level. And let's not speak how they totally destroyed Thrawn, seen as a dumb blue Elon Muske with a beer belly.

[@uriustosh]

Elon Musk is dumb and has a belly so they are quite similar minus the blue.

[@mortagon1451]

While Ahsoka is a fun, but flawed adventure created for fans of Rebels and TCW. Andor is a masterpiece. The writing, acting and dialgue is on another level. The only issue I have is that it doesn't really feel like a Star Wars show although that's not necessarily a bad thing.

[@12stack73]

Its great thing then, its feels differwnt because it the first show thats actual quality unlike the others, Andor is just amazing show which also happens to be sw, rest are halfbaleked shows which just rely on sw brand.

[@jsome2348]

It is genuinely insulting when people try to compare Andor to any other live action Star Wars show from the past couple years. One is art, and the rest are Star Wars nostalgia junk food

[@robertgordon7983]

To your point on obi wan I actually disagree there is one final story that needs to be told that the show could have taken full advantage of but didn’t. At the end of rots Yoda tells him he needs to learn how to become one with the force and then it’s never mentioned again ???? Like that’s a show right there why not do that.

[@TheRealKiRBEY]

I forgot that season 2 is coming out next year thats actually insane

[@ChrisPierce-y1r]

Yeah can't wait for season 2 it's the only Star wars I'll be watching

[@Jacksonmontyart]

Original ideas in Star Wars are what’s going to save the IP, if they don’t do it Star Wars will continue to die

[@Ulyssestnt]

Andor is almost hard sci fi in a star wars setting..surprisingly high quality(especially after the Kenobi show)..and so few people watched it, Its a crying shame if they take away the wrong lessons from that.

[@DarthVader-m3o]

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[@lancepadgett]

ALL OF THIS! I'm here for all of this. Andor is the one live action Star Wars show that has looked and felt the most 'Star Wars.' Every other show feels like the writing has been extremely lacking and they've cut corners.

[@SalvLav]

This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone describe Andor as "a side character nobody cared about"... Fucking nani?

[@mrplaomeow768]

One screeching tie fighter instills more dread than the thousands of planet destroying Last Order ships in The Rise of Sky Walker. Excess is waste, less is more.