No Mas - The Story of How Cyber-Stein became the first ever Emergency Banned Card in Yugioh

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[@supercanadian0640]

No matter how convuluted card effects get nowadays, nothing will ever powercreep the simple sentence effects of the old cards

[@afraid2losebalance303]

The Ace Of Spades LOL

[@antman7673]

A spell that draws 1 card is op, because if there are enough exodia is an ftk. Pot of greed can never be powercreeped, because even drawing one would be too good, but a spell that draws 2 with no downsides is better than a card can be.

[@cnssegura]

The classics never die. ;) lol

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

The real question is has Cyber Stein earned his freedom?

[@imnotacat5299]

Actor Adam Anouer no, this plus grinder golem could pull of insane fields once security dragon gets released in the TCG. Although I think they should definitely ban grinder golem before they release security dragon.

[@vanguardRailgun924]

And Now he’s back and already causing problems. Dudes like that guy that got out of prison and stole a car from the staff parking lot.

[@MrMisterJW]

Scrub Duelist: "Who would ever pay life points? That's how you lose!" Any Duelist With a Brain: "I agree! KONAMI! UNBAN CYBER STEIN!"

[@diobrando5896]

Jackie Williams psychics have really good and the take life points.

[@admiralhipster9583]

A Small price to pay for Salvation

[@YoVibezz]

Naa this card needs to stay banned it is broken

[@XxpoplocksxX]

@@YoVibezzyour broken

[@LV1mage]

Cyber-Stein still locked *IN PRISON*

[@tossapixeltoyournoelle]

not in the ocg. lol

[@clayblob2]

"They won't let me out"

[@elderentitynorden4896]

h*ck the h*cking tcg

[@imnotacat5299]

Grinder Golem + Cyberstine = GG

[@Solqueen86]

LV1mage making Stratos his b****

[@Moliminous]

cyber stein on duel links with that perk that has you bypass the life point requirement makes a random stein a real pain. however i don't think the other cards needed to do serious damage are in the game yet.

[@RamyGd]

There is a skill called no cost so you can use cyber stein at no cost

[@DARKGORZ]

I was at a Regional when Stein's ban was formally announced, AN HOUR BEFORE THE EVENT BEGAN. I was running... Shoot, I think it was GKs at the time. People were pissed off beyond belief.

[@hungerxhunger2548]

Boomstick1911 I bet, they should not do that since you can not sell it back.

[@DARKGORZ]

Quite a few people had to drop outright. Shrunk the total player pool by about... 5% out of a 300 person regional?

[@michaelfellner9822]

But then the regional shouldve been Held with the "old banned list" = with cyber-stein. Even tough ppl hated it u cant just screw all the ppl who came and prepared for the regional. Bad Management. Also, "GK" = Gravekeeper? If so nah. Stein was either played in a deck focused around him simply to at one time to OTK or, the most played way back then, in Monarch Toolbox decks, the best deck back then.

[@mdz8758]

Who's here because it got unbanned 😂

[@johnboona4048]

A few dudes are now running an OTK with Brain Research and Cyber Stein lmao

[@blazingrune8535]

Same 😂😂

[@sandgambler6515]

Someone tried to ftk me I effect veiler them

[@armon9555]

Sand Gambler effect veiler is shit

[@mdz8758]

@@armon9555 yoir obviously trash then

[@ZardMasterRay64]

*_The cover art, Effect Veiler seems real upset._*

[@chiri345]

Magical Cylinder tier 1 confirmed

[@VideoGameManiac8]

Magical Cylinder is good if you can beat your opponent once with it and then dont rematch and run away so that he cant beat you.

[@raiou5010]

This type of content is my favourite type from your channel.

[@jracer876]

Another great story of an old deck of legend back in my high school days. thanks for going in-depth with cyber-stein otk. I never even knew about random-stein.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Zaborg the Thunder Monarch, the one who put them on the map.

[@GatorRay]

It honestly shocks me that Cyberstein got added to Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links. Because Cyberstein OTK is a thing in Duel Links which gets around the 5K LP payment by using the Life Cost 0 skill that allows you to not pay LP for cards if your life points are at 1K or less by using Solemn Scolding.

[@xEiim305]

and surprise, it does nothing , just like in ocg

[@GatorRay]

+BlzMan I know. I honestly wonder why Konami hasn't rotated it out of the Card Trader yet. But then I remember that Konami is Konami.

[@xEiim305]

wait no keep the card avaliable to everyone, it does nothing, the cyberstein deck is not tier 0 in duel links xD every other consistent deck can beat it

[@GatorRay]

+BlzMan The reason why I say that is because I feel like it's wasting space that could be used for a better card. But hey feel free to disagree.

[@xEiim305]

but card trader doesnt have space limit, and they even made old retired cards to show too

[@tacho9427]

The Cyber Stein deck was top for sure in its era, yet too many people didn't know how to play it the right way. All you needed was one, and then you could search him out with Sangan/Last Will/Mystic Tomato on the turn you were ready to go in. From that point, you could get off game winning combos combined with Metamorphosis, DMOC and Monster Reborn. All of which were not banned in this format. Cyber Twin Dragon and Gatling Dragon were game enders when abused, and the fusion deck had Ryu Senshi/Dark Balter for Metamorphosis combos. Oh, and in case of a longer game, MOF and Tsukuyomi were a thing. Also, Thunder Dragon and Dark Sorcerer were pretty stacked in this deck too. So easy to swarm the board with big hitters while denying the opponent of resources, and then pull off Metamorphosis shenanigans.

[@sburbtube6766]

Just lost to a Cyber Stein player in Legend rank in Duel Links... Why is it allowed at 3?! (Yes, we only got 4k hp, but with a skill you can start with 5500 lp and summon Ojama king turn one that blocks all 3 monster zones...)

[@omar5788]

sburb tube lmao ojama king too gud

[@imnotacat5299]

Just use dark hole or raigeki....or a Kaiju lol

[@sburbtube6766]

they are not released in Duel Links LOL

[@joshuapena95]

Busted

[@imnotacat5299]

sburb tube I was being sarcastic, fam.

[@mjholdingphilip4136]

I think it is important to mention that this was after they changed the ruling on Last Will. Previously, you had to activate it before a monster was destroyed to get its effect but then they changed it that you could play it after a monster was destroyed and search. This meant that if if your opponent used Torrential Tribute, or Ring of Destruction you could play Last Will and immediately win with Cyber Stein, or you could tribute summon Zaborg to destroy a FD and see if the coast was clear first before going for the win with Stein to hit for exactly 8000 with Zaborg and Cyber Twin.

[@Griffnix]

I love these history of Yu-Gi-Oh! stories. I wish you would have gone a bit further with this one and explain why some thought it was opening up Pandoras Box. Also comparing it to the recent emergency ban list for Pepe.

[@wavemaster4891]

Griffnix a clarification should be made that these are yournament stories and not background stories. Otherwise people can come here expecting to get background lore stories and be dissapointed.

[@willieoelkers5568]

If I had to guess on the "Pandora's box" I'd guess people were concerned that they might get a bit too ban-happy now that they had set a precedent for being able to ban at any time, without even consulting Konami.

[@baval5]

"If you didnt play defensively correctly you would just get OTKd" Meanwhile in todays meta thats every duel with every deck every time. Fun.

[@shinobibryansuke]

preach

[@ColdNorth0628]

stein would rip them if done right I bet.

[@baval5]

yes. im imagining the terror of a deck that can summon 1 whole fusion monster. No modern deck even comes close to that power.

[@esseubot]

This. I found quite strange the quoted sentence when I heard it myself. The game has reached a point of speed and power creep that, that phrase can be used to any deck. While it is arguable that Stein can pump out high ammounts of damage, in todays meta the number of negate and similar effects is so high that, I believe, Stein wouldnt make a difference.

[@baval5]

sure Stein himself is an ok card, probably even decent, but the comment i was replying to was implying that cyber stein would be enough to beat modern decks, "stein would rip them up". This implys to me a Cyber Stein turbo. Sure if you put Cyber Stein into a True Draco deck it would likely be better, but it will only do well because its still True Draco. Stein himself doesnt change strategies, hes just a pure power card with no protection at all, hes like Monster Reborn.

[@202sushi3694]

If Cyber Stein is unbanned today, all the Ash Blossom players would be like "Please, do play it"

[@Archgeek0]

Ah, good ol' CyberStein. I remember running that in the old GBA game Eternal Duelist Soul, using Sangan to search it, special-summoning a blue-eyes ultimate, maybe throwing on a Bloody Axe or that light field effect for pointless extra power, combining it with abuse of Numenous Healer (probably misspelled) in case I managed to loose the thing and wanted any chance of bouncing back. This alongside a deck that ran idiocy like Gemini Elf, Neo the Magic Soldier, and 7-Coloured Fish.

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

And to think that when the OCG unbanned Cyber-Stein over there a few years ago, the painful memories came back! Lol.

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

Graphic Designer No. It's currently Limited over there!

[@Teixas666]

that's insane considering the fusions we have now and no no limitation stein has :V ending duels with suprise Exterio :P

[@masocre]

don't play or follow along with yugioh anymore but this it's crazy these kind of things have to be told as stories nowadays!

[@THE_BASED_GOD]

How is it crazy?

[@masocre]

makhmaltchi cuz it doesn't seem like that long ago to me when cyber stein was one of the most expensive cards in the game and everyone knew what it was per se

[@BaltaBueno]

Man I LOVE this story! Thanks for uploading it and making it comedic lol

[@BoredBricks]

We need a Cyber-Stein reprint despite still being banned.

[@codenamebella5541]

boredom Errata gonna be made soon enough... "Pay all your Life Points..."

[@catoticneutral]

Godlike EXCEPT ONE

[@codenamebella5541]

Josh Herbert Oh no, it's already been confirmed... Pay all your Life Points, Special Summon 1/2 of a Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck.

[@Reverseslayer217]

boredom definitely for goat

[@jadedheartsz]

@@codenamebella5541 or make it so that the fusion monster has to wait 1 turn to attack.

[@beverett591]

My favorite deck of all time. I won 7 locals in a row with it and got back to back 9th places at regionals.

[@hungerxhunger2548]

Wow this a great video thanks for the info Cap, I love video like these.

[@pandaman1331]

What I learned on the reaper format discord server. David Rodriguez didn't play cards like Poison of the Old Man or Gravitiy Bind to make sure he can go for the OTK once he assembled all necessary pieces for the OTK. He played them so that he can use Stein's effect twice in a duel.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

I remember even earlier when Kaiba would try to OTK with it in Worldwide Edition.

[@dmcboi]

How I first met this card

[@dertlash]

Pretty sure in the gba game stairway to duel heaven(or whatevs) Kaiba hit me with cyberstein the megamorph, and summoning that damn 3 headed blue eyes. And once i got the card in my deck i t was a fun run

[@Kugrox]

Yeah this is why I based my primary deck around this card, until they released even more op cards. now i run a combo of future fusion and dragons mirror to bring out dragon master knight, blue eyes ultimate dragon, five god dragon, and that 4000/4000 xyz card, all on turn 1. A combo I can pull off regularly. Thing is, in todays games, having all those high attack monsters is fun and impressive and scary and all that, but really, your opponent is gunna have at least9 cards that can kill 99 monsters and remove 2349203 cards from play, all the newestcards can trump anything i can do now lol. but its still fun to bring out 4 4000 attack monstesr turn 1. But against decks that are just too new and powerful for me ot beat I just rely on exodia to beat them, because exodia is cheese af and its the only way i can beat the newer shit since i dont play anymore, my cards are all 10 years old lol.

[@willcampbell8997]

I remember this. If memory serves me right, this emergency ban hit on the day of a tournament, probably a regional that caused a number of players to be unable to play due to this.

[@koruteru]

"Hey this card won a tournament." BAN!

[@nathansiegel6799]

If that's the case Ceasefire should be banned my buddy Ryan Back in the day won a regionals with a Ceasefire

[@horonoringo]

Missing seeing Mystic Swordsman LV2

[@dovesr0478]

I still occasionally play Eternal Duelist Soul on GBA just to stomp with Cyber Stein. Megamorph is unfortunately limited in that game, but you can still easily win without it if you keep your BEUD alive. The game is so old that no cards are actually banned, only limited, so you can play pot of greed, delinquent duo, change of heart, etc to your heart's content. It feels like cheating and is a great display of why those cards are banned but it's super fun and nostalgic.

[@laqz6043]

Cyber Stein + Naturia Exterio gg for most decks

[@4262232]

Grand Caster, Merlin Ghost Ogre = wasted 5000LP..

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

Hossam Haybat I'mma drop a "Called By the Grave" on that Ghost Ogre! No Ghost Ogre effect for YOU!

[@4262232]

YuseiTheSynchroHero Effect Vieler?

[@BoredBricks]

Hossam Haybat still negated by Called by the Grave

[@4262232]

boredom Yup but it's once per turn, and most of the current decks have pop-ups by monster effects..

[@Derpe69420]

“90% of decks had cyber stein in them” Sounds like handtraps but those are fine right komoney ?

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Ocvy Covers As cancerous as hand traps can be, they're reactive and can't OTK you.

[@CM-tv2bu]

Ocvy Covers 100% of decks had traps in them should have banned those as well right?

[@doomdude3034]

The Brofessor not necessarily true, there are plenty of decks that can get away with not running any traps at all nowadays.

[@josephgottfried1214]

That is not comparable and you know it.

[@ninjaguy2511]

hand traps are the new defense since you can't set really with the power creep and how a field can get whiped every turn. its the new trap card basically.

[@nottheguru]

Oh nostalgia. I remember the days of Cyber Stein, when the extra deck was unspoiled territory. Sadly, the GX days were the only time I played competitively. Stein was banned for one, simple reason. It. Was. Everywhere. Every deck ran one, for little more reason than to have that OTK waiting. It made the game a race to do that first 3000 life points of damage, no matter what you were playing. If you couldn't do at least 3000 points of damage quickly, you might as well pack up and go home. That might sound trivial to younger players. But back then, that was a challenge. Board wipes were few and far between. It was the time of the 1-for-1 card. And Card Advantage was THE advantage. It was a format where "Draw. Attack with one monster. End turn." was a Pro Move. No summon. No spell played. Just draw your card, attack with one thing, then end your turn. And that could be the most frustrating move to make for your opponent, who is sitting on his Bottomless Trap hole or Torrential Tribute. And in this format was an upsetting force known as Cyber Stein. Stein made one bad draw into a loss. I saw people pay 4000 life points to negate the summon of a Stein and called it a good move. There are bans and restrictions I don't understand. But Cyber Stein needed to go.

[@remixV4]

Kaiba pulls this shit in Eternal Duelist Soul. Mirror Forcing his Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon and instantly killing him on your first turn was so satisfying.

[@user-nm4xe8zu8z]

Emergency ban list. That is first. Good work on the video.

[@matty9460]

I love how the example decks are just random cards that barely actually help toward the strategy and just stall you opponent till you can get the OTK out. Old school yugioh man so simple

[@spiderlord2870]

Scuffed thumbnail cmonBruh

[@BaltaBueno]

2:28 This made me actually lol in real life 😂

[@zeagias]

What may be really nice is including a duel with it being played.

[@Mister_Eiffel]

It's nothing really impressive to see. You pull out your big fusion monster with Stein and the LP cost is your Megamorph setup. Doesn't really matter what deck you have or what turn it is.

[@rhysjonsmusic]

KZbin what are you playing at with these recommendations, I already watched this when it came out

[@LukesYuGiOhChannel]

Definitely used this a lot for the early video games.

[@kait137]

i like how they took emergency action on that card

[@ninjaguy2511]

I love these kinds of videos, would love to see more yugioh stories like this.

[@wyspreegamings6380]

Ah, Cyber-Stein. Started off as an OTK and now you're an FTK

[@Tbax9]

It feels surreal hearing that UDE/the TCG had some leverage on Konami/OCG's actions back in the day

[@mf-mi7es]

Always wondered how and why Cyber Stein got banned. Knew the OTK because I used it for fun, but thats about it. I've noticed KZbin's been recommending me more Yugioh videos. I never really was a serious player and I stopped playing years ago. I assume the channel is focused on informing and interesting actual players, but I'm sure some entertainment won't hurt. Either way great work on the video!

[@tohnee4585]

You can thank Igor Kharin for the emergency Cyber Stein ban. He invented the deck then shared it after using it at UK nationals. It wasn't a threat until Igor came up with his build and the burn side deck. From memory I saw the build before he played it at nationals (can't remember if he showed it to me or it was posted in a specific forum) and the top players realized that card had to be banned asap

[@258thHiGuy]

Pretty wild to think that this championship took place in the city I live in

[@NDtermN8]

The nostalgia. I can already remember abusing these cards on my Game Boy Advance game. I never thought about them being used in tournaments till now. Of course it'd get abused. Players eat their own LPs all the time just from Solemn traps, and that's just to disrupt plays. They didn't have the hand traps and counter traps we have today; but even so, many decks could still abuse it.

[@rj5534]

Teched last will with splashed cyber steins. But san jose was the debut of chain burn as well

[@colormetwisted]

i havnt played yugioh sence i was like 10, and i never even heard of this card. But this was a pretty damn interesting video. good work man.

[@Shawns_snapshots]

i had stopped watching your channel, but this series is really great ! So i'm resubbing :)

[@russianbot2179]

Cyber Stein was one bad hombre.

[@henoksolomon5071]

Russian Bot he’s back

[@Kyang1994]

Si

[@hellcopterts8895]

Back in the days where everyone was playing this deck, i was running 3x Kuribow (Hand Trap) :D

[@clarity2199]

I always liked Wabako. It was fast, it didn't have to be placed as a reactionary to an attack phase, and turned all attacks into 0 that round.

[@Stargatelover]

I remember playing early Yugioh Games and buying every Booster with Cyberstein in it and putting the card with Blue-Eyes Ultimate and/or Cyber End Dragon no matter the Deck. Admittedly, back then my strategy come down to "Kill him til he dies" but that is beside the point.

[@ohhcee643]

Zaborg wasn't hyped, but I loved playing the card for that sweet 2400 + removal. Especially to take out a Jinzo or something.

[@Seth_rs]

Yuginono explained how a power bond searcher wouldnt be broken, if you loose your win coindition like here a cyber stein you pretty much lost, but as you mentioned having it on any deck and being able to randomly otk deserves a ban, it would be interesting if they make a new reprint that states that the monster cant use their effect or attack the turn its summoned or something like that

[@ultraviolentkingofthedeath4817]

Seth_%r,&s its at one in ocg and sees very little plau

[@suddenllybah]

Power bond is less reliable and still requires 2 other cards in order to use.

[@mokeymale8350]

I completely forgot that Last Will existed. That card art is beautiful

[@jarekwildheart]

Fun video, but I was confused at why you were saying that was the first win for Cyber Stein. Back in the day, a friend of mine won Shonen Jump Hamilton (Corey Faibish), and won using Cyber Stein. I double checked the date, and he won in August 2006 He literally won the final game with Cyber Stein into Cyber Twin + Megamorph

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Can't wait to hear about it during this weekend's ycs

[@joe_shmo9728]

Good story-telling. I like these kind of videos.

[@Judgementxxx]

I remember that so well. It was running rampart and destroying people in one or two turns.

[@emildokle261]

It Still is a force to be reckoned with

[@jtalkalot19]

Remember kids at one point in the not too distant past OCG had 3 of this thing running around for whatever reason.

[@Borchert97]

And right after the Cyber-Stein OTK got banned, guess what? Chimeratech OTK became the new tier 1 OTK deck.

[@thunderstruck560]

Holy hell I totally forgot about this. It hurts because I had a cyber stein and I was a kid and some guy offered me 20 bucks for it and I said no. Then they banned it...

[@whateverdot]

It became super popular after a Canadian national when the winner topped stein with 5100 life points to take the title

[@igorkharin2235]

I came 2nd with IgorStein OTK at UK Nationals 2005 that got the ball rolling for this ban. Good times.

[@ChillyCharizard006]

Cyber-Stein Megamorph Cyber End Dragon Limiter Removal Air Cracking Storm

[@_Shikabane_]

funfact in the original tag force game you can play full power cyber stein otk, although megamorph is limited cyber dragon is at 3 and so is cyber stein

[@SporeDemigod]

I remember in one of the GBA games I could never beat Kaiba because he always managed to Turn 1 a Cyber-Stein into Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. Sure it didn't have the piercing damage of Cyber End Dragon, but the game only supported the first 5 TCG sets, so the game was still pretty based around raw attack power for the most part.

[@jadedheartsz]

I actually found Kaiba pretty easy to beat as I had plenty of traps to deal with Stein.

[@decepticonsforever]

Cyber stein + Megamorph + Blue-eyes ultimate dragon was my shit back in the day.

[@rok2716]

Good times :) made top 4 twice with cyber stein OTK back then.

[@arrownoir]

Cyber-Stein is my favorite card I think.

[@freyathedragon899]

We just need a more well-thought out forbidden/limited list for Duel Links. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense if you can cyber-stein turn one and summon Ojama King to lock up your opponent’s whole front row, or if you can just fill your deck up with Wall of Disruption and Mirror Wall and just make your opponent too scared to fight back. I mean, once everyone starts doing it, there’s no real fun in playing the game.

[@codenamebella5541]

Back to a simpler time

[@steagle715]

cyber stein: *guess who's back, back again*

[@ebros2898]

The story sounds almost exactly like what happened to Zoodiac Drident

[@garuda155]

Imagine a buffed up Cyber Stein. Same Stats. Effect reads: "Pay 5000 LP. Special summon a fusion monster from your extra deck ignoring its summoning conditions. Your opponent cannot activate cards and effects in response to this cards activation."

[@KageNoTenshi]

Someone who gone to national just because he went with stein otk passing through

[@ryoandr]

5 minutes final is what prompted the e-banning

[@antonbalfe4115]

I never understood this ban he is a perfectly balanced card pay 5000 life points summon a monster from your extra deck the fact you lose more than half your life points for this one effect I think it is a fair amount to pay for the effect meaning it is was and always will be a fair card

[@mrknarf4438]

Monarchs meta, the memories...

[@redhotglockzz2615]

I like your videos man it’s like I’m watching a 30 for 30 about yugioh😂

[@mikenov3603]

Chazz and bakura deck profiles coming! Check out my channel for many others too

[@RuneRelations]

-turns on video read the cards -think about in the context of older yugioh "Oh you create the biggest beater then use Stein and your other fusion monsters for a OK"

[@fcm3d]

I so remember that! Lol living in San Jose sometimes has it's ups.

[@ramirezthesilvite]

::clicks video, pauses at 0:01, immediately understand the reasoning:: Yeah, that'll do it. A one-turn win right there. Wonder why this is 10 minutes long.

[@krausercruz2780]

Im surprised they released the card at all, i mean a card that with a health cost you can summon ANY FUSION MONSTER you want? and the card in question is a low level monster you can just summon without any prerequisite. Maybe if the monster required 2 tributes, or some kind of especial summoning condition to restrain its power then maybe. But this? come on guys. Sad too cause the Monster actually looks really cool.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

there is a way for it to be unbanned? 7999 life points, u can't normal, flip, or special summon a monster after u use his effect, once per a duel, and if your fuison monster send to the graveyard in any means, you lose the duel! I mean if ring of destruction and solemn judgement gets to be at 1 then I think this card can as well

[@jaggededge11]

I'm more of a Demise OTK man myself, but lucksacking people with a "tech" Cyber-Stein never got old. Here's hoping it will eventually get unbanned so I can sell off my SJC one.

[@AggressaCh]

1:09 Raiza came out in Force of the Breaker, *not* Storm of Ragnarok.

[@person19863456]

Plz do more!!! I love the history

[@Ai2K7]

Lmao I remember Rob Morgan getting banned at SJC Hamilton during this format.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

How about a story covering the September 2013 banlist? I mean fuck it is the biggest in the games history

[@Nicbn1]

until the fusion power creep, Cyber Stein wasn't shit. The day Blue Eyes Ultimate came out that's when Cyber Stein was the overpowered

[@Saturday2015]

And he just got rebanned today as of May 27 2023 lmao

[@zinesis]

My favorite deck are the fusion heroes and the monarchs