NO MERCY PERCY - Vox Machina ORIGIN Moments

Percy comes face to face with the Briarwoods for the first time.
Comparison between the The Legend of Vox Machina animated show and the original Critical Role campaign.
Timestamp for Critical Role, Campaign 1, Episode 25: • Crimson Diplomacy | Cr...
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[@matthewletexier]

I saw Unmerciful Percival in the chat and I love it

[@cjhenderson61]

In my personal opinion, same thing (but still good)

[@metaforest]

they both work the magic but at different arcane frequencies. ;P

[@BeinIan]

@@metaforest If you cast it at an even higher level does it become Hurtful and Unkind Percival Frederickstein?

[@marcusdaloia2974]

@@BeinIan And _this right here_ is to go even further beyond!

[@thedeathofreason]

@@marcusdaloia2974 HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (insert bruce faulconer super saiyan 3 theme here)

[@GoblinLord]

"Is he looking at me?!" "Yes" "Ok Good! I'm taking another aimed shot at his face..!" The sheer aggression like "Good, he can see me pump some lead into his face"

[@trealosgaming3345]

Percy always had that calm aggression

[@idankatz8085]

Where is it?

[@sakuraemerald3288]

“Is he looking at me? Okay, good, I’m taking another aimed shot at his face.” brings me so much joy.

[@guywhotellsthetime1585]

0:36

[@tlaragihai5953]

I still miss the moment when Percy says names of his family, I hope they included this in series. It was so powerful and painful.

[@jamesscott7215]

Probably saving it for the final fight

[@nyanbrox5418]

@@jamesscott7215 in the original campaign, they didn't show off the black mask until several episodes later, It's really nice that they foreshadow stuff much earlier on this time, The moment he says his full name in episode 9 is so good, literally every time someone says percy's full name

[@CommentAndFavorite]

They did it ;)

[@1jame2james]

I was gutted when they didn't include that, such a chilling moment

[@CommentAndFavorite]

@@1jame2james this is a warning for spoilers, assuming you haven't seen all of season 1 yet. He has that moment. Last episode. "..No, your pain will linger. I'll shatter your ankles for my sister Vesper, your hands to Julius, each De Rolo will get their pound of flesh before I flay the skin from what's left.."

[@Vonkunken]

For anyone unaware the your soul is forfeit line is from a bit later on were Percy in his anger unloads on someone they were fighting in his anger over this just creating a large hole straight through his chest, and he yells that as he does it.

[@mathybrain8]

To be specific, they were fighting the bounty hunter who was coming after Lillith.

[@zephyrs4850]

Wait is he a fighter or a pact bound warlock?

[@Vonkunken]

@@zephyrs4850 Gunslinger subclass fighter with the magic initiate feat.

[@KazzieBB]

@@matc1995 god you need attention, don't you

[@Nofixdahdress]

@@matc1995 ...then why are you watching a video of a "gay roleplaying game"?

[@benjaminklaassen4722]

Can we talk about how cool Percy's little reloading gadget is?

[@hardwirecars]

its a real life device called a quick loader i think it would have fit the time frame and his lore better if he used what was called moon clips same purpose just disposable. fyi fast gun competition shooters that use quick loaders can empty a revolver open the cylinder reload and close the cylinder again in under 1 second.

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

It really is! In the words of Matt Mercer (during the watch party), "That reload animation, it's so hot."

[@Rin-qj7zt]

@@hardwirecars the disposable nature of those is to sell more. its a money making method. percy made his own, so he'd naturally avoid disposable methods.

[@hardwirecars]

@@Rin-qj7zt even if the difference is penny's on the dollar in comparison to the device he had to have custom milled in a time power tools and standardization was not a thing? not to mention watching the latest episode the device would not work considering it shows him muzzle loading the pepper box (irl pepper boxes were muzzle loaders so it would not work anyway plus he forgets to put a cap on each barrel after he reloads so yeah fantasy i know but still) kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6CaoGakm8SXfpY

[@pierluigidipietro8097]

@@hardwirecars The Pepperbox is a magic weapon. It can also shot freezing bolts and fire bolts, if I remember correctly

[@adeadphish7931]

Grey Griffin as Delilah Briarwood is some A+ casting and I am glad even with the alterations, they kept "your soul is forfeit" because that line and delivery was too good to leave on the cutting room floor

[@JnEricsonx]

So glad I've met her! Baldurs Gate and Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines!

[@francescogulisano2917]

While Liam is the best at breaking hearts with his sad bois, Taliesin is actually the best at putting raw emotion into his acting on a moment's notice. That "Sylas" is there for the ages

[@magicmasterp]

And I've just noticed that Cassandra is not among the members Percy asked about... Nice foreshadowing.

[@ashH-B]

I think It was because percy saw cass get shot down so already assumed she was dead but wasn't sure about the fate of the rest of his family

[@magicmasterp]

​@@ashH-B True but it also means that Matt wasn't forced to give conflicting answers or spoil the surprise earlier.

[@jackcrook6330]

@@magicmasterp Think that's why Matt kept her alive though, the last person he would expect to be alive, things like this just lined up well, Matt played this arc so well, but when doesn't he I guess

[@Rembanspellsong]

@@jackcrook6330 yeah, Matt played the cards close to his chest and masterfully led the game

[@jackcrook6330]

@@Rembanspellsong I still gotta finish C1 tbh, I kinda watched C2 first lol love it its just finding time for it

[@kunaiguywot]

That carriage driver _sold_ it

[@vishaansingh1019]

Seeing Marisha's hair/smile like that reminds me how young she was when this show started and oh god I was 16 when this started and oh god make it stop

[@Dragon_Lair]

Time never stops.

[@justmindset]

Isn't her hair the same though?

[@andrewpeli9019]

Percy was my favorite campaign 1 character. So metal! Though magic happened every time Scanlan and Grog were left together unsupervised.

[@trealosgaming3345]

Percy was insane and pretty close to the Party leader. He was more the play of the words leader knowing the language of nobles far better than the rest. And the early parts of the show(Till the near end of the Chroma Conclave) he was the most powerful, 2d12 is scary compared to the rest of the crew's damage output.

[@sapphirekatty8730]

Party leader? Lol, nope.

[@spaceman9599]

Also. Percy is the reason for Viktor! Learn from my mischtakes!

[@captainufo4587]

I just ralized we have yet to have a full "Pecival Von Musel Klossowsky De Rolo The Third" dump in the show.

[@rayanderson5797]

You missed 'Fredricksen'.

[@dnf-dead]

But you can call him Percy

[@captainufo4587]

@@rayanderson5797 Crap, you're right. It did seem a little too short.

[@DrNeonGaming]

Huzzah

[@metaforest]

the timeline got no time for it.... geez they be racing through the key beats!

[@notthed6534]

I forgot how much I loved the Briarwood arc

[@egirlSkeletor]

forever my favorite CR arc tbh.

[@MrCharles7994]

@4:36 What follows is the epitome of "reloads with malicious intent".

[@bman296]

What makes it so satisfying is I don't think we see Percival spin his gun like that. His movements and every shot he takes is usually calculated and meant to be efficient. Here he doesn't care, sure he's pissed but he's walking and acting with a sort of confidence that's pretty scary tbh

[@PurrloinQueen]

The shout of “SYLAS!” Should’ve been added in the show

[@ItachiUchiha-xr3oj]

It was. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqjMgKJ3qs2hh5o

[@BeinIan]

It's in there, but something about that original yell is magical. There's a lot of stuff like that where it feels like the scene is in a hurry to end, because there's so much story getting squeezed into 9 hours. The original briarwood arc was like 40-50 hours of game time, certain things just aren't gonna have the same punch that they did with hours of buildup. I hope the inevitable success of the first season gains them some more trust with the Amazon execs, so they can get the budget for like 15-20 episodes in season 2. Either way, I fucking love the show so far. I still can't believe it's a thing.

[@CharalamposKoundourakis]

@@BeinIan Not an issue I've had to be honest.

[@--InsertNameHere--]

*Ahem...* 3:22

[@spaceman9599]

Agreed!

[@Tamaki742]

"SYLAS." *rolls dice in hand* Idk why that's kinda funny to me.

[@엘제-k9u]

"I would like to rage, if it's okay with everyone."

[@spaceman9599]

When Percy Percy's so hard it even overcomes the coffee spill panic! :D I love it when they go all-in: Taliesin made this role his so well

[@CricketsTavern]

There’s a line from the show that’s not in the og campaign that I think is an excellent line. At least I don’t remember it being in the og campaign. “Every de rolo will have their pound of flesh”

[@sandrafunacc1]

I love a good hero that walks the villain line.

[@Dragoboi1998]

i feel like he should named his family like in the campaign

[@High-LordHarza]

He knowns his family is dead so naming them doesn't make a lot of sense and is a bit janky. I wish we'd had the "I can't sir, they'll kill me" "No they wont, because I will kill you first. Tell me what you've seem"

[@Rhino-Prime]

@@High-LordHarza It would be bad-ass right when hes about to kill them he names off each and every one of them

[@High-LordHarza]

@@Rhino-Prime In the campaign he was asking if they were alive which is different, but it would be cool if he names them when the Briarwoods die

[@alexiavya722]

@@High-LordHarza I think the reason why it’s so powerful is because he know’s they are gone but he still has some hope left even in that darkness. The animated version really just sets up the shadow monster instead of doing some extremely efficient characterization and getting us invested in the character. Definitely one of the scenes where they could of just stuck with what they had and made it amazing but they decided to change it for sake of brevity :/

[@TAiiNE]

@@alexiavya722 A lot of the changes in the script are sone with the players concent and are changes they wished they could have done during the campane. The naming of names was a bit pointless as the character WAS there and saw them all die so logically he knew they were dead. While many things are skimmed over for sake of time they are done how they want it to be done.

[@commiegundam9066]

I feel that this moment from the actual campaign was so much better, where he used the bad news to land big hits on silas, and actually take out the carriage, cementing how terrifying he can be. but in the show they wanted to save the reveal of the bad news for the very next moment for some reason, so he just had the pepperbox the entire time, also the part where he starts listing the names of his family made the campaign's version better too

[@MonsterPrincessLala]

Someone did a commentary once and mentioned how Percy and Molly are opposites in that Percy appears to be a good person but he actually isn't and Molly is a good person who looks like he isn't. I just love that perspective looking back at moments like these

[@PeopleAcct707]

Oh my god, I feel so bad forgetting that Kit Buss was in this episode!

[@WardNightstone]

for some reason i thought she was on later in the series

[@BryonYoungblood]

What always gets to me in the origins of No Mercy Percy has to be when Percy goes "SYLAS!!" calling him out, even with whatever nonsense Marisha and Orion were up to as it was going on. XD It just is how Taliesin shows his talent as a voice actor

[@brendanhart517]

I still love the rest of the cast just looking at Talisen when he says the briarwoods won't kill the carriage driver. Oh there's hope? oh nope he's just going to get there first

[@davidguthrie3895]

God I wanna cosplay Percival so bad. But only being 5' 7", it just wouldn't look right

[@OurAdventuringParty]

Of course it would! Never let something like that stop you cosplaying a character you love!

[@davidguthrie3895]

@@OurAdventuringParty well, it wouldn't look how I would WANT it to look. HOWEVER, I got a buddy that's like 6'3" so I could just make it up for him and takes credit for bringing the costume together 😂

[@davidguthrie3895]

@@OurAdventuringParty I have been thinking on replicating his pepperbox but with actual metal casting. Gotta figure out how to get the barrel to rotate.

[@XylessBrawl]

That really doesn’t matter, do it!

[@sebastianlodge7549]

Pike might be a better option.

[@SM_Price]

I forgot Orion was part of the crew for a while before he blew it up.

[@DozenMarks]

Yep. Through (until?) episode 28.

[@MormyJenkins]

yeah drugs will do that and when everyone defriends you

[@Commander_Ray]

Yep Just wrote Tiberius out now we have the glorious Robbie as the 8th member

[@sirwahthemonke]

@@MormyJenkins no such thing as bad drugs, he just was a shitty person

[@SM_Price]

@@Commander_Ray Robbie is awesome, you're 100% on that.

[@irishboy_pa]

Sad part is that he probably was being forced to drive them. He most likely just came out of it because they got to far away.

[@roybenari9472]

He gets out pretty well in the campaign. Goes through some scary shit, but eventually he gets paid well and welcomed back to Whitestone

[@alexanderthegreat6682]

I love the show because I've tried to watch Critical Role before, but I never had the time. LoVM allows me to experience the wonderful adventures without spending a thousand hours

[@JimmyTheAI]

Just know, that if you like the show, then the dnd is 10x more rewarding and much more full of emotions

[@alexanderthegreat6682]

@@JimmyTheAI I know, I just don't have the time for 100+ 3 hour long episodes.

[@JimmyTheAI]

@@alexanderthegreat6682 Just sayin, I also didnt had time, so at ttime when there was 5 epi of campaign 2 i started to watch it like 20 min a day or on train and so on, caught up by 14 episode, and then it was +-3 hours a week. Similar if you jsut watched 3campaigne now

[@JimmyTheAI]

and if you hadc morte time older campagins

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

@@JimmyTheAI The problem is, there's also a lot of nothing that happens. No disrespect to them but they can spend an hour in a single room and not get anywhere and very little of plot relevance happens. That's not including the typical D&D slog of the basic encounters with some players not sure how their spells and abilities work so they have to look them up etc... I just start zoning out. That said, since Chroma Conclave is a vastly superior story and they bothered to tease it's arrival at the end of the briarwood arc (not including the references in the first 2 eps) I do hope they extend the episodes and have a larger season to accommodate it. The show has been extremely successful so hopefully they push more with it in the future.

[@FlapNasty3]

And our first look at Kraven Edge. 😩😩😩

[@Guagex]

This was a flawless character building moment.

[@spaceman9599]

I'd just like to say, dear sir, thank you for your sterling community service - I am just at the start of CR campaign 2 and your belovedness in Talks Machina is already level 20.

[@doyalikejazz5251]

3:08 i love how everyone snaps to attention like "oh shit"

[@michelepella2768]

YOUR SOUL IS FORFEIT

[@martinpat94]

I will admit the animated show is a bit too fast paced for my liking (though I’m sure it couldn’t be helped) but as usual Percy will always be my favorite character

[@JimmyTheAI]

yes it feels like slower animated recap, with parts stiched together

[@rachele.3229]

I just caught up on the animated show and yeah I got that vibe. Watching felt like I should just *know* things about the characters and whatnot. I knew nothing of CR before watching the show but I'm excited because I like the characters.

[@tysondennis1016]

Takesin’s bellow of “SILAS!” was so raw.

[@filmetiquette2409]

That reload animation, damn

[@Shinyloog20992]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone fueled by rengence and hate so much ever. Not a person not a character. Percy takes the cake.

[@VegetaLF7]

I mean...Punisher, Kratos, and Doom Slayer are all up there.

[@maddoxio]

​@@VegetaLF7those guys kinda feel unrealistic in a way. Netflix Punisher, too. Percy feels exactly like a real person.

[@psychogamer7213]

In critical role, he shot 3 of his fingers off. In vox machina, the entire palm of his hand was blown off with all fingers. That's a nice change they made not gonna lie.

[@PhilCrownz]

Percy is batman's origin mixed with the punisher's origin

[@robertthompson5701]

I love the animated series, but I was honestly disappointed in the first Briarwood fight. Vex's opening attack on Delilah was honestly incredible and Percy's 'Sylas!' was honestly more impactful in the game. Plus, his interaction with Desmond was much so better. I get they had to cut about half an hour down to 5 minutes, but a couple of these moments probably should have been included.

[@alexanderarmageddon1467]

Will never not be salty about the show not doing Delilah falling on her ass after jumping out the window

[@abigailthompson838]

I’m very much a new critter (started on campaign 2 and now watching 3) and now I’m even more confused about the mask.

[@williamwall3403]

It actually features a little bit later in the original campaign but the reason for it is kinda spoilers.

[@abigailthompson838]

@@williamwall3403 thank you :)

[@Rembanspellsong]

Percy had the mask and it was kind of like an early attempt at a gas mask, he usually used it to block out foul odors and some potentially harmful vapors. For flavor, Taliesin made it look like an old school plague doctors mask and it ended up that his shadow demon had a similar face.

[@quinnalexander3825]

Same, but I'm starting from ep 1.

[@sandrafunacc1]

Ah... you'll find out, it's totally worth the wait!

[@fayazyusuf]

There's a "You got a sword" line in the campaign as well.

[@roybenari9472]

Cut to the end of that ark... Grog has got a sword

[@toofat2run98]

not having seen critical roll my response to no mercy percy was the same as Vax

[@BenGoldNYC]

I just finished watching the series and now I’m watching all of these clips on KZbin of the campaign.

[@matthewletexier]

Merciless

[@justletmeuseyoutube213]

Does Percy not have the Bad News yet in the show

[@CrownofMischief]

He does now

[@TrackerRoo]

Yeah he pulls it out briefly in the newest episodes. Hasn't used it yet

[@davidguthrie3895]

Honestly, I'm pretty excited for diplomacy. 😊

[@GirishManjunathMusic]

No he assembles it while in house-arrest at the keep in the show I'm pretty sure.

[@leonielson7138]

There's a scene in episode 4 where he pulls out the blueprint for Bad News. I think he builds it before going to Whitestone.

[@peytonhussey3644]

2:36 why didn't they put this part in the show?!?!?!?!?!?

[@purplejoeler]

I’m sad they weren’t able to get Orion Acaba to play Tiberius while he was still apart of the group

[@jackvalior]

One of these days, we will arrive at the golden god moment, and when it is animated, it will be glorious!

[@VegetaLF7]

Assuming we get more seasons announced like how season 3 was a few months back, that moment would happen in what I imagine to be season 4.

[@IsaacMyers1]

Actually, yeah, why did they cut out the dragon born Tiberius? I know he left the live show, but it’s weird him not being there at all. It’s like he never existed.

[@jeffwithheldforsafety8359]

They don't have the rights to the character and he would have been gone by episode 5 so it was easier to just leave him out entirely.

[@IsaacMyers1]

@@jeffwithheldforsafety8359 ah thanks

[@WolfeofGrey]

Because they separated on bad terms as well due to his drug use and everything getting too much. It's one of those things the CR crew has asked critters not to talk about

[@Navywalrus09]

Tallisan Jaffey is cut from the same cloth as James Spader

[@giantsdms]

Percy was always my second favourite character after Gronk, but after watching the animated series? Not a chance, Percy head and tails above everyone else and it’s not even close, I’d rank him up with some of my favourite animated characters ever at this rate

[@Team_ghost9503]

Kinda wished there was a 1 for 1 concerning things but hey either way it was pretty damn good.

[@Beerbottles123]

I love how Marisha is fanning herself.

[@_Noctifer]

3:17 "SIKE, THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER"

[@OceanStateMadness]

Some other editing bits aside I'm really curious why they swapped Sylas and Deliah for the 'pup' line...idky but it intrigues me i struggle to rewatch the c1 eps before 29 unfortunately...so i could only get so far before i skipped the clip. sucks when you were there from the start and watched a guy devolve who you thought was pretty cool like the rest. really missing the kraghammer quest, thought that had a lot of solid hits...unfortunate.

[@cryofpaine]

I was just thinking I'm so glad they gave her that line. Grey does condescension and disdain so well. This is perfect casting. Hell, even the name is perfect: Grey DeLisle (her maiden name, "de-lie-el") playing Delilah. And with how they've fleshed out those two characters, this line sounds more like something Delilah would say.

[@cryofpaine]

And I'm sad we won't see Grog headbutt a giant into submission just for drinking all the ale.

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Just a guess, but possibly to subtly telegraph that Delilah is at least as significant a character as Sylas, going forward? Which is likely something that developed over time in the campaign(s).

[@OceanStateMadness]

@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll she's always been the more important one imo. she was the villain who kept escaping them and coming back to be terrible. i love the briarwoods so much 😩

[@ryanjones_rheios]

@@OceanStateMadness She kept bringing Sylas back too, of course. Worst part? Knowing that bitch *still* isn't dead as of C3.

[@MellowMaple]

DOLOLO

[@DrKingsleyRoberts]

Thank you for making this video.

[@juniper890]

Seeing the old set up they use to have is nostalgic.

[@Hanksoueu]

good old times

[@lefterismplanas4977]

The og was No mercy Percy. The Animated one was possessed percy. Its different and it was done quite well. But I like the original better

[@leonielson7138]

I think the origin of No Mercy Percy was in the Underdark Arc, when he head-shot Clarota the Mindflayer with Bad News.

[@lefterismplanas4977]

@@leonielson7138 No mercy percy was born because he Critted exactly when it counted during boss fights. It was insane. I'm just saying that the show took a different approach. They made him seem more possessed by that being rather than just being an awful person.

[@BigMisterApple]

Honestly its almost a one on one transition.

[@thunderflare59]

Disappointed he didn't name every member of his family in the show. That was tense.

[@rebeccatrishel]

I prefer the calm that Taliesin had originally. Its much more chilling than him raging.

[@gargax3925]

It feels so weird seeing Orion

[@disneymaniaish]

I notice that in the campaign Percy had time to process and be more cold and calculate, because he knew the Briarwoods were going to show up, in the catoon they show up without his knowledge, that's what makes him more upset

[@bman296]

Actually Talesin said he had no idea in the campaign wrap up he said he left it up to Matt if Percy's backstory was real or just dreams twisted by trauma. So when Briarwood was announced he was stunned silent for a bit

[@VegetaLF7]

@@bman296 I think Elena meant the dinner party. Percy 100% knew they'd be there, Percy had left word before leaving for Vassalheim to be informed if any information on the Briarwoods came through while they were gone and upon returning to Emon he was informed that they had been invited to the dinner. Pulling some strings as Council Members themselves, Vox Machina got themselves included in the dinner. They were working with Seeker Assum to plan a trap for the Briarwoods and investigate them...but totally fucked it up by not actually working with Assum at all during the party and letting Vax poke around in their belongings while Percy was disguised as Vax. Vox Machina in the game went in to the dinner with a poorly planned and terribly executed ambush while in the show they got blindsided by Percy's backstory showing up to eat.

[@Nveous1]

You know, now that I think about it, why the hell didnt orthax pop out when Percy first saw the briarwoods?

[@cheshirehat8355]

Possibility waiting for a better opportunity.

[@Skull_Corn]

Percy was always my favorite

[@j-dawg4774]

Percy deserved his revenge

[@ShaggyGamerDudeTTV]

This show is so good

[@MrHelllllloooooo]

I totally forgot OA was there for the briarwood ark

[@MarcRodriguez1]

Only like, the first 2 episodes though

[@asuraXTC]

I wondered what the show came from sadly I cannot get into this but the show is great

[@MRCrazyKorn]

Percy is such a badass.

[@RedOnion4175]

spoiler ish? someone wrote in a comment that percy went from "no mercy percy" to "mercival percival"

[@JakeBaldwin1]

What's the significance of the mask he put on?

[@justenleonas]

I haven't watched a lot of campaign one, but from what I can gather, When Percy lets teh influence of orthax take hold he puts on the mask. I think its to signify he is acting as that spirits agent or something.

[@Metrion77]

Spoiler alert Orthax the shadow demon possessed Percy in his backstory. He gave Percy a dream that showed him how to make guns and helped him get revenge on the briarwoods and their allies who helped kill his family. Orthax pushed him more and more to seek revenge, because he could steal the souls of those killed in vengeance. The mask and smoke are signs of Percy being influenced by the demon. I won't spoil much more because Percy's vengeance is honestly one of the best character arcs of all three campaigns.

[@JakeBaldwin1]

@@Metrion77 Cool.

[@VexRavenhardt]

I want season two!!!

[@VegetaLF7]

Just a couple of more weeks! We're almost there!

[@artemisfowldragon]

How is Percy’s Dexterity 22?

[@fredfullthedreadful]

Probably because he might have read one of the magical stat-raising books. I think the characters in Vox Machina obtained quite a lot of them.

[@myrax3198]

Before they started streaming Campaign 1, Percy received a book that he studied to get +2 to dexterity. Because he already had a 20 in Dex, it went up to 22. They started streaming when their characters were around level 10, so they were already fairly powerful. If I remember correctly, Scanlan did the same with his charisma score later in the campaign

[@gokification]

the animated moment was a little nerfed in its awesomeness since his shots didnt do anything and the funny moment of shooting the guy is gone due to his line being taken by Delilah.

[@Tobo226]

This is fucking grade A story telling

[@MajuGen]

I am confused as to why the show only has six members in vox machina and non of them are dragonborn or Tiefling

[@XC3758]

Seven: Grog, Pike, Vex, Vax, Kiki, Scanlan, Percy. And as for race that is what the actors created for the characters back in the home game in 2012. (there was an eighth Dragonborn character as well, but we are not supposed to take about him).

[@Lucifer8881]

Because the dragonborn character left Critical ROle shortly after this (around when they left for Whitestone in the show), and the tiefling was a guest character who was only playing for that particular epiosde. Neither were members of the party for the Briarwood campaign arc, so they left them out in the animated show.

[@johnraymma]

This scene always reminds me that they were ok with Talison torturing a kid, but not Orion killing an "old lady" in battle just minutes before. For the rest of the episode Marisha would have an aside with another character to complain about him with out the ability to defend himself

[@ultrabigfella]

I feel like you have to take into account Orion's behind the scenes behaviour which was probably a factor in Marisha complaining about Tiberius.

[@AnxietyRat]

Those two aren't comparable. Desmond had a clear fucking connection to the briarwoods percys enemy....the old woman was a RANDOM woman walking on the street, IIRC. Not comparable kills. At all.

[@BlueSun_]

@AnxietyIsMyMood No she was not. She was one of the enemies they were fighting. If she was a typical burly thug no one would've batted an eye.

[@AnxietyRat]

@@BlueSun_ a fully fleeing enemy that was...VERY far away from them. NOT a threat...and yet he still nuked her for no reason.

[@BlueSun_]

@@AnxietyRat Correct, you know who was also running away? The big burly thug Kevdak, everybody sheered when he got split in half. Now we can present some kinda of utilitarian calculation about which of them would cause more harm in the future. But let's be fair, what would've been the reaction if she looked like the guy in episode 1 of the show that got his arm cut off? In fact I would say that scene for Vax is almost character breaking brutal in starting a bar brawl with mutilation. Yes he wasn't the one to do it, but he clearly set it up and was happy about it. Also Vex shot at her as well. It just so happened that she didn't deal the killing blow. Laura: "I know she's running away, but she's a bad guy"

[@jacktheripper5112]

idk why, but i now i need a fucking gun in any fantasy show i watch , arcane started it for me and now vox machina is making it worse , i need guns

[@evenigcloud9104]

I love that seen

[@Gachmara]

why are two members not part of the show?

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Kit Buss was a guest player only present for one episode. While some guests also appear in the show, not all do (and Kit is an artist, not a voice actor, whose character was never a major part of the plot). Orion Acaba had been part of the home game and early streamed episodes, however he left the show permanently a few episodes after this one, and retained the rights to his character. Tiberius appears in some of the Origins comic books, but is otherwise absent from most Critical Role material.

[@Gogofan240]

What level are they at this point?

[@Br-kc2jy]

I always thought that Percy (on paper) was kinda wack, but since the show came out, I've been able to see him in his full glory and now he's definitely my favourite (I never saw Campaign 1)

[@abigailprovost690]

Thanks noobs will need something like this so they can watch both with out issues. I want to enjoy the show without going through hours of campaign. That way I can compare and contrast.

[@disneyforthewin]

ive become that guy lol.......shot the wrong hand ??? i do love this series...... you you make it, i consume/buy it. Next stop, beedle and grimms

[@hawkthetraveler6344]

original air date?

[@sgt.squeegee1720]

Roughly 2015, 2016. Look up Critical Role Campaign One, Vox Machina.

[@Ty-yy7zr]

I'm not a fan of the change to the "Your soul is forfeit" line. It was so much better in the actual campaign.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

Brace yourselves in the comments. It's filled with people telling you how much better the scene is in the actual campaign than in legend of vox machina.

[@TonTonTheBard]

Man, Sylas sounds way too close to Gangplank. Yes I know they’re both Matthew but goddamn it’s way too close in style.

[@tanjerin3687]

Why isn't Tiberius in this series?

[@lurkr00]

Same reason why he wasn't in the end of Campaign 1

[@evelynd9240]

also, legally, orion owns the intellectual property of tiberius stormwind (and also some aspects of draconia, i think), and those rights don't fall under the critical role umbrella

[@Spectralyzed]

@@oriandthesleepytime I don't know that everyone knows the reason he was removed from the show. I don't remember it being openly explained in the show, so anyone who didn't look into it further than that probably just assumes he left on his own.

[@sodasaintcommentaries4054]

To be fair, some people may not know; it's been a number of years since then

[@Serotonin_bun]

I’m very confused on why he left. I started watching during campaign 2 so I wasn’t there for that.

[@captainkg5910]

No one: No Mercy Percy: *S Y L A S*

[@maryhales4595]

That shout sends chills down my spine every time.

[@JoystickJockie]

No one: …… Guts: G R I F F I T H! ! ! ! !

[@kos_]

One thing I was sad about was Percy not immediately wrecking shit when he showed up as he did in the original. Woulda been great to see percy just start unloading and fuck up Sylas badly before they ran.

[@andrewpeli9019]

I thought it was weird that they didn't have a scene to explain the giants. In the campaign they stumble upon an abandoned giant fortress and then they see the giant zombies and it becomes clear why the fortress was empty

[@caijones156]

@@andrewpeli9019 it was the pre stream one that got me a bit, it went from a complicated interwoving story of demons and a dragon into well a very basic quest. And well no one knows them before hand. Don't get me wrong I love the show but here I think being a new viewer has its benefits.

[@ultralm7250]

@@caijones156 would have been cool to see them fight the dread emperor but I guess general Krieg sets up a potential second season.

[@caijones156]

@@Jquezzie I know, I'm just pointing out that I don't think 2 episodes could do it justice. Also the undead hounds attacking them could have easily been replaced with the giants. There are a few changes to the show I think that where unnecessary and harmful to the narrative. Though I prefer Archibalds changes in this round of episodes.

[@caijones156]

@Caradoc g I agree, and some of those have been put in (the whole tibbs thing and a few others) but others feel unnecessary.

[@wickedpissa25]

Percy is one B A M F !!!

[@josephmoffatt4696]

I think the correct term you’re looking for is S A M F. Scary Ass Mother ****er.

[@loyalist1326]

He’s both

[@kmart93]

Feels very weird to me that Vox Machina just stood by and watched Percy unload his fury onto a relatively innocent kid.

[@ryanjones_rheios]

They were all pretty messed up and Percy had, until then, been largely cool, calm, and collected. Seeing him so raw really stunned them all. Its doubly layered with the fact that Vox Machina, until much later, weren't big damn heroes. They were closer to the amorality & selfishness of the Mighty Nein a lot of the time.

[@robertthompson5701]

To be fair, at this point in the campaign, they were all mostly neutral characters. Even Pike, who started out as chaotic good, was chaotic neutral at this point in the story. The only three in the show who could be considered 'good' are Vex, Vax, and Keyleth, all of whom actually do react or start to move to stop Percy when they realize what he's about to do. So I wouldn't say they just stood there. In the campaign they were basically stunned and didn't know what to do, it took them by complete surprise. In the show they were held back by the vines Keyleth summoned, were stunned by what he did, and halted by Uriel's appearance and him ordering them to stop.

[@Sesquedoodle]

In the campaign its not unusual for them to torture people for information.

[@ryanjones_rheios]

@@Sesquedoodle That's true too. I think most of us remember Vox Machina as far less evil as they really tended to be. You saw it come up a lot during the Mighty Nein later, but VM could be just as bad.

[@the_tactician9858]

To be completely fair, given the answers the servant gives Percy in the game, he probably was an eyewitness of the murders or at least was considered loyal enough to know what happened and not betray the couple. But you are correct, this is definitely not a heroic action.

[@dcstandsfordirectcontrol1169]

It's weird seeing Orion back at the table. Like a ghost from the past. Hope he's doing well

[@Rin-qj7zt]

yeah. i liked his character, and acknowledged his flaws, hoping to see growth. but i understand him having to leave for the sake of his mental health. sometimes you cant cope with the stress and it makes things worse, you lash out, ect. i hope he moved on ok.

[@GrimViridian]

@@Rin-qj7zt from what ive heard it seemed like he was doing better, getting help etc. But he lashed out at a fan very rudely for some reason and I haven't heard anything since

[@iananderson4754]

@@GrimViridian didnt he cheat at rolling too?

[@anonymousfellow8879]

@@iananderson4754 Yeah he did. It got to the point that Marisha and Sam and Taliesin had to watch Orion’s dice roles to make sure he wasn’t fudging them, and Matt had to get increasingly specific about what spells could do + the ring and sorcerer points. He also had a really bad habit of metagaming information his character would not know (like, not being in the actual location/wasn’t something the party would know Via Earrings), and had major Main Character Syndrome when another party member was getting a character rp moment or got a “how do you want to do this” during a major/boss fight. (During those moments the party’s engaged in another player’s moment…except Orion. Sometimes Orion was engaged on a better day, but increasingly he wasn’t or outright glowered.) Kinda takes all the fun out of both Tiberius as a character + made the episodes Orion acted out like that as a player pretty unenjoyable to watch. Then ofc how he behaved outside of DnD-stealing money from a charity drive, tearing into a fan for a Tiberius shirt they made for themselves as fanart as “intellectual property” (it’s only when merch is sold there’s a grey area legally, not made for selfusage/not for profit), and abused his girlfriends. I do hope he’s getting therapy for his behavior, drug addiction, and coping with his health…but CR made the right call booting him from the show (and since they were all friends before CR became a podcast, cutting ties with him). You can only tolerate so much for so long, and by this point Orion had become a liability even if his relationship with the rest of the cast hadn’t become strained. But the main reason why Tiberius isn’t part of TLoVM is because at some point Orion went ahead and copyrighted the character

[@Overused_Toothbrush]

Who is Tiberius and Lilith? Are we going to see them in the future? I’m just a show watcher so I don’t recognize them.