No more TRT for me (1 year later)

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In this video, Elliott discusses his year-long experience with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and the changes he noticed after quitting. He highlights the decrease in muscle mass, increased recovery time, joint pain, and the need for more naps, while emphasizing the importance of understanding one's natural state and inviting viewers to share their own experiences with or without TRT.
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[@Hittdogg17]

53. Recovering heroin addict. 12 years clean my levels were in the tank when I got sober. TRT has been golden for me.

[@1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew]

Great job. How did you get clean?

[@allansmasterspowerlifting.390]

Same here, brother. 56 years old. 9 1/2 years clean and sober. alcohol and crack l and opioids for me. Those were my drugs of choice. Basically anything that would get me high TRT for me

[@totallyraw1313]

What's your protocol?

[@balconyclubLA]

Awesome story.

[@michaelsomer6829]

Same here. Ex cocaine,meth and booze. Now gym and TRT. I also blasted test in my 20’s so I assume my levels are messed naturally anyway. I’m ok with TRT forever

[@joe7pack250]

52 natty Blue collar. Always laughed at the old heads complaining about pain. But the joints do be hurting. The struggle over 50 is real.

[@sfrealestatedealmaker6001]

Turmeric & ginger tea gets rid of pain bro. I’m in my 50’s and pain is gone within 2 weeks. KZbin search the recipe.

[@OGbqze]

@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Natural remedies like this have ALWAYS helped me in my life. One time we took a cat to the vet and the bill was going to be like $3,000 which we could not afford, so we fed it freaking canned pumpkin and we still have that same cat 4 years later... Old ways were tradition for a reason. Because they worked. We've just lost touch with our old ways and now most of us rely on "Experts" that make money off of your illness.

[@iiyyxxnn]

It's all genetic, I normally never try to compare but since you are I have to say that your pain is probably very minor in comparison.

[@GeraltOfRivia99]

im a middled aged slob with man tits !

[@JaggedMercenary]

@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Omega3 is good for arthritis too and it's a very strong anti-inflammatory supplement.

[@raulraul7085]

I think that bird is on trt, won't stfu

[@WillHal1000]

That bird is blasting Ostrich hormones.

[@cyberoach]

lmao

[@MindfulBodybuilding]

That bird SPITTIN that 528hz

[@OGbqze]

It's honestly music to my ears. Most of us are TOO used to absolute silence in our little boxes. We need to be more in tune with nature instead of being bothered by God's creations.

[@hedhell]

im on trt, some would call it cycle but i dont. appox 300mg/w for years.

[@bfranksdamicrophonestrangl6280]

39 on trt my test levels were at 40. My body wouldn't heal simple cuts. I was 378.8 lbs and no energy. I have been on it for almost a year. I feel 100 x better. I weighed in today at 255.8 lbs. For me, trt was a life changer.

[@grapicusdrinktus]

Keep it up brother, less weight to lose on my end (sitting at about 270, 6'0") and a decade younger, but basically in the same boat. Feeling like I had to nap every day just to have enough energy to get through work/the crippling inflammation is what convinced me to try it out. Hope to be off of it in a year or so.

[@bfranksdamicrophonestrangl6280]

@grapicusdrinktus you got this.eat well,Work hard, be consistent, and you will be right where you want to be.

[@mdabril891]

Elliot, I will be 53 next week and am not on TRT. What I found to work is basically taking care of your health, eating well but not to excess (keep the body fat in check) get sleep and train hard but not excessive or huge amounts of volume. I guess just working smarter and emphasizing recovery as you age. 2-4 days per week max for the strength training. Praying and staying close to God helps me of course as well. Good luck!

[@stoneyj1a1]

Amen. Nobody needs trt or pre workout or any of that. I'm 44, natural and still workout at the same level as the 20 year olds at my gym.

[@RoninWarrior1776]

@@stoneyj1a1I can tell you I need to be on trt to be optimal at least for now. I don’t have the luxury to proper sleep and rest. I definitely rely on caffeine but not in excess. Coming out of the military and jumping right into law enforcement my T levels were under 200 with all the stress of high risk operations and patrol life. Being on trt has rejuvenated me completely. I get random sleep 4-6 hours, but still workout 5-6 days a week with lifting, mobility training and grappling. So at least I get the recovery benefits rather than feeling shitty. I’m also a family man which I also don’t have the luxury to rest after work. It’s definitely a healthy option for first responders.

[@michaelreyes1924]

@@stoneyj1a1 amen to that!

[@BMO_Creative]

Yo Elliott! I'm fit and over 50... i never have used TRT... The supplements I do use daily are: 1. Black seed oil 2. Turmeric-Curcumin 3. creatine 4. BCAAs... And I stay away from phytoestrogens... I don't microwave foods in plastic and don't eat things like tofu... my T levels are slightly high normal according to Cooper. Hope this info helps you man! Been watchin you for years and have learned a lot from you!

[@strengthcamp]

Awesome, thanks!

[@Deadlift_addicted]

That is great man! I have read that curcumin lowers dht though, which is more powerful than testosterone. This is the only reason why I haven't used it yet. Do you feel it helps you?

[@FrankZen]

My main supplements: Citrulline 3g, Arginine 3g daily. Twice on workout days with Creatine HCL 750. CoQ10, Multi, D/K2, Niacin. Along with a few others.

[@fujimi715]

No one cares

[@FrankZen]

@@fujimi715 I do. You weren't the one that asked anyway. Elliott was.

[@Ricky-Noll]

Slower recovery, achy joints, and naps. Thanks for sharing your experience. I will know to expect this when I get older, regardless of taking test.

[@Fighter4Street]

Plus lower libido probably. I'm mid 40's and the one thing I noticed are the more frequent naps, but also a bit lower libido. The naps depends on if I get 7 or more hours of sleep though.

[@survivaldirtbikesllc5710]

More than any other reason, I quit TRT after 6 months because of the same reason you mentioned. If SHTF, and it becomes unavailable, that could put a lot of men in a very vulnerable situation.

[@edwardbrownstien8741]

PCT?

[@EddieBonez1000]

@@survivaldirtbikesllc5710 what do you mean? SHTF? I’m 46 on TRT, 100 mg a/wk. my levels were 140 when I started a year ago, now 650 range, a lot of great benefits, sex drive, libido great, lost 40 lbs, by having more energy all the time, and depression is gone. So I don’t notice any bad side effects, only good stuff, I did change my diet to more keto/ low carbs, l

[@daviddugan6046]

I am 52 train hard …naps huge ,,, recovery ice and sauna once a week …train 3 x week …ruck once a week kettlebells once a week and boardwalk pushups and pull ups once a week with air squats …discipline huge : fast twice a week …Jesus Christ is king and no alcohol no weed …love the show Elliot long time listener

[@todretex]

I am 52 in a few weeks as well. I train super hard at gym 3 x a week and a fourth play day where I don’t go as hard. Recovery is always tough lol. I lift to nearly failure on every set and keep volume high. I see mostly increases in weights still but very slowly. I also do cold showers outside in winter and bush walk once a week.

[@tonytran7382]

Yes Jesus is Lord and Savior and my King is coming back! Lets gooo

[@sananton2821]

How does Jesus Christ is king figure into your workout plan? Does he spot you? Do you eat him or something? What's the relevance? Do you pay taxes to him? Fight in his army? Does he pass legislation? Seen him lately?

[@folksurvival]

@@tonytran7382 Coming back? So someone is writing a sequel?

[@tonytran7382]

@@folksurvival Yes God, He has been writing it in the Bible, you havent read?

[@paulvenis2676]

Hello I’m 60 and from the UK. Just want to say I was on TRT for around about 18 months and Bern off it for about 4 months now. I’ve suffered with all of what you have just said, aches in my joints ( elbows, wrists and shoulders) and felt tired as well. And my muscle definition and size is not as good as it was, but I think my age is a factor in that department. I’ve trained since I was 16 yrs old and obviously wear and tear has took its toll. But I’ve just started back on it but I’m going to keep a regular check on my bloods and get blood withdrawals every so often to keep me safe. I’ve done research and spoken to ex champion bodybuilder Dorian Yates last year who gave me some good advice, so I’m hoping that this helps me out. Thank you for your video. Hope you’re well, and take care.

[@DG-EditsYT]

Go to the TRT clinic he uses, Dorian isnt a TRT expert but the guy who oversees it is, he is on YT talking to him about it, Dont guess work it as side effects are multi faceted

[@stepheneagle8495]

I started TRT at 23 going into 24 I been on it for a year and couple months. My level started at 230 ngl and last blood work beginning of June 991ngl. It’s a game changer more confidence, more energy, higher sex drive, i see small strength gains. You gotta workout on TRT

[@allansmasterspowerlifting.390]

Oh wow that's very young to be on TRT

[@stepheneagle8495]

@@allansmasterspowerlifting.390 I don’t regret being on it. It’s unfortunate situation. I personally believe that I have bad genetics, but I was diagnosed with a thyroid problem and hypogonadism

[@rc198028]

Did you have symptoms of low T. Did you attempt to increase your T naturally through diet/exercise/stress reduction/sleep etc?

[@coly0226]

​@@rc198028Bad choice to start so soon

[@sunshinehappyfuntimes]

@@rc198028 no one gets levels of 200 from not sleeping enough, this person clearly has a pituitary tumor and needs an MRI. Nice victim shaming though, i bet you feel pretty superior right now, did you show your comment to your mom? did it make her proud of you for insulting the bad trt man?

[@Johnnygstring]

54,weight trained for 20 years consistently, still do 5 days a week, train Brazilian jiu jitsu 3or 4 days a week. Never taken any type of hormone, never will. Get your mind right, eat right and learn to listen to your body. Some weeks it's a breeze, some weeks it's a grind but you learn when to push forward and when to ease back.

[@Ibz87]

Beast bro. I’m 37 train weights 4 days a week and struggle to get 2 days of jitz. I work a physical job 6 days a week too.

[@btv4083]

Well what you do is start your KZbin channel and show us. Maybe even put a picture for your profile

[@AzH1988UK]

But what do you look like.

[@3Lijahh]

Just learned this myself and life is much more interesting

[@PR1NCEM1]

100% so much excuses to take drugs 😂 people are just lazy

[@zazzy99]

I'm not taking TRT and power lift. I use to lift 4-5 times per week but drop it to 3. I have the same issue of stressed and achy joints and back problems with much longer recovery time. I cant run or jog as much anymore. So now i do more walking, especially trails and sands, and have been looking at getting into swimming. Sidewalks and concretes can be a challenge at times especially after a squat/leg day workout. I've also started up yoga for my off workout joint mobility days.

[@thomashugus5686]

I’m 74 with a level of 113. I still can gain muscle and strength believe it or not! I can’t do TRT due to a blood clotting disorder. My test is low due to radiation therapy of my groin secondary to cancer. But I still lift and at my age did 10 solid full reps of 225 on the bench while my body weight was 190

[@stevewitt3697]

Yo Elliot! I’m natty at 62 and still looking jacked and fit. I am frequently asked if I’m a personal trainer. Your observations are similar to mine; less volume and heavy weight, more rest and recovery plus an afternoon nap. And quitting alcohol is the best natural hack of all! I have always appreciated your OPENESS and HONESTY!!

[@TheFirstAmendment]

Great to hear again from you man! I always respected your grind. When I was newly graduated HS. Your videos always stood apart as a reminder to dream, work hard, and see your accomplishments speak for themselves. ❤️‍🔥🏋️

[@Gizmoimages]

In October I will be 60 years old. No TRT. My testosterone is on the low side. I used to compete as a powerlifter, speedskater, bicyclist. I've been lifting weights consistently since 1978. I still race bicycles. I'm probably the only person to take first place in the shot put, and place at bicycle time trials in the same year at the Senior Games . . . also competing at Senior Nationals. When I was younger I could incline press 85lb dumbbells for fourteen reps, and now maybe do that with 55lb dumbells. So the strength just goes down. I'm looking to compete in some bicycle races in the sixty year old category, and maybe do the Huntsman World Senior Games this year. I've had to quit doing some exercises because it just hurts in a bad way, but just stay at it. I work out maybe ten times a week with a full time job. Weights every weekday morning. Then after work I will do either cardio or weights three days a week, then on the weekend mornings go bicycling. If I feel tired, I will back off a bit.

[@mikes6490]

Yo Elliott you need to start making more content for the older guys since we all grown up now. Thanks bro. Good video!

[@Round1Fight.]

43, mostly train with barbell full body 2-3 times a week, cardio everyday for the most part. I don’t take anything at all besides a daily multivitamin. Not gonna lie sometimes it’s hard to do anything on my rest days and I just want to lay down, but overall I’m proud of being all natural, all I see people on ozempic losing a bunch of weight and other people on trt getting jacked but idk I just want to know deep down inside that my body does not rely on any substance to function. Just my own hard work and discipline to keep me working towards my goals.

[@davewr1975]

49 and I went through the same thing last year working out like I was still in my 30,s and couldn’t recover my testosterone was around 300 I considered TRT but had the same fears so I decided to totally recalibrate everything went to working out 2 days a week and eating better and really paying attention to rest and recovery and I feel way better I’m having my numbers checked again next month but even if they haven’t changed I’m fine with it cause I’m still making gains and feel much after learning how to approach my fitness as I age

[@Phaeer]

I'm turning 40 soon. Been on TRT for 3 years and stopped 6 months ago because I wanted to get my girlfriend pregnant. I was very nervous about coming off but it has been pretty easy. I had low sex drive for about 2 months and zero sperm count. Now I feel completely fine and sperm count is 160 million. I need to sleep a bit more now. I had high blood pressure while on TRT but nothing when I'm off. When you are on TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy), you typically have higher estradiol levels. Elevated estradiol can lead to increased water retention, which may result in higher blood pressure and a swollen appearance. Your red face was probably high blood pressure. After working out for 15 years, 12 years without any drugs, 3 years with. I have zero drive to workout now after I came off. It just feels boring and pointless.

[@doitordont6150]

I'm possibly going to be getting on Trt due to having no Libido and a 300 Total T level. Do I have to be on something else to keep my nuts alive, or do they come back alive normally after getting off trt?

[@Phaeer]

​@@doitordont6150 There are absolutely no guaranties that your nuts will come back online after TRT. I would highly recommend freezing some sperm beforehand, if you want to have children in the future. Most men get their sperm production back, but as I said - no guaranties. If I would have done it over, I would have frozen some sperm and been on HCG while on TRT to keep my nuts from going completely offline. I was lucky that everything came back to normal with a mild PCT after 6 weeks without test of 25mg tamoxifen every day for 5 weeks. I would have taken HCG if I was able to get my hands on it, but I wasn't at the time.

[@mlwilson2956]

Why would you want to get someone pregnant if you don't even want to marry them?

[@justinvleblanc]

Still natty brother, God has a higher plan and mission for us that’s for sure. It’s about the hard road man.🙏🔥💪

[@alexanderj.6701]

43, been training since I was 16, never took TRT. I'd say the only thing I notice that's different now as opposed to when I was 20 is the recovery time and the fact that I need to really warm up before workouts. There's some accumulated effect of the injuries I've had over the years, but mostly manageable. I get tennis elbow every once in a while from doing too many pull-ups and push-ups, so there's that. Other than that I'd say I'm almost as jacked as I've always been. Just limit stress, eat good food and make sure you get enough sleep I guess will work for most people.

[@rc198028]

Similar to me. I'm 44. Trained basically all my life in some way. 100% natural. Lifting since about 21/22. Just completed a triathlon so eased back on the lifting slightly the last couple of months but I am in as good of shape as ever. Full of energy and my cardiovascular fitness is better than ever.

[@jodogg101]

My joints hurt when i drop down to just TRT, even worse when coming off fully. Small amount of deca (100mg a week) added to the TRT make the joints feel good. Same with a bit of GH

[@blacklion401]

I’m 45. Lifted most of my life. Never a steroid user. Really felt around 42 like my body just totally betrayed me. Had my doctor check and my levels were in the toilet. Been on TRT for 6 months and it’s totally changed my life for the better. No naps. My muscles and strength are back and I feel amazing. Also my day to day focus is much better, which I feel results in better moods.

[@allansmasterspowerlifting.390]

Nothing wrong with that. Good job gonna enjoy what life you have.

[@totallyraw1313]

What's your protocol, bro?

[@blacklion401]

@@totallyraw1313 bloodwork every three months. 100mg once a week.

[@allpraisetothemosthigh7770]

Thanks for sharing Elliott.. enjoy your talks. 51, lifetime lifter, natural. Still lift heavy and train hard, but definitely need to prioritize sleep and overall recovery. 8 hours solid sleep per night. No drinking and cut out the snacks and bs. I never wanted to get on the chemistry set roller coaster, so just do the best with how God made me. It's all good, I'm in it for the long run.

[@codecaine]

People talk about TRT like there is nothing bad that comes with it on the internet. Is crazy how kids are on gear not even fully developed. I can just imagine the horror they are going go through later in life. I want my sex drive to stay strong without assistants. I know about the slow recovery aches and pain and pains and pains but there is something rewarding about it being 100% just you. When I am working out I ending up zoning out and never want to stop. I always feel it later that day though and sometimes have to take 2-3 recovery.

[@MikeFitAfter40Reyes]

This post hit home. I have had weight issues all my life from developing an eating disorder at a young age. I was 175lbs in the 6th grade, hit puberty in the 9th grade and have been 6’1” since. Graduated HS @190lbs and never played sports. I was more of a skip school and smoke out kind of a guy. Then I went from 190lbs to 303lbs at 22 and took it upon myself to lose weight and got down to 212lbs in 9 months. The thing is I knew nothing about working out back then so I ran, ran, and ran some more. I barely lifted weights, but basically ate chicken, rice, and veggies everyday. Losing that weight was great but I got skinny-fat. At 23 I joined the Army in ‘03 as a skinny-fat weakling. I had weak connective tissues, but powered through 5yrs in the Army and got in great shape. After getting out at 28 my body already had a lot of arthritis, neck, c5-c-6 and those 5yrs in the Army caught up with me. I kept somewhat in shape for a few years, but well over a decade I have had high and low weight fluctuations. Then 2022 I got rear ended by some lady doing over 90mph while I was driving 55mph crossing the Gandy bridge back to Tampa. This threw off my back and hip, no surgery but physical therapy. During the past 2yrs I just fell into a depression and started eating like a pig getting up to 314lbs. As of this past May 2024, and on the eve of turning 44 in July, I decided to make a change and within 9 weeks I have lost 40lbs. I get my blood work done annually, so I will know my T levels in Sep. I have been natural all my life and have thought about TRT. Despite my body being in pain, arthritis/inflammation, I still feel like I have that Dog in me and can reach my goals naturally and for as long as I can stay natural. I mean once i’m collecting SS i’ll get on something, but until then I’ll keep fighting the good fight of youth. I’ll link you to my page if you are interested.

[@Sam-dq7ws]

see Dr. Now deal with the fatties.

[@nicksaveka5078]

I’m 41 now I’ve been on ur videos since 2012 ish.. I use to hit the weights pretty hard loves ur motivation videos with u and Chris going hard unorthodox style sessions. Now we ve been doing a few long distance running events a year and minimised my gym sessions to two days a week . With the running it is hard to recover from and workout 🏋️‍♀️ next day, but I’ve reduced my intensity/ weight kg to about 60-70% max with more focus on correct form and overall performance style exercises . When I’m dieting right I’m still pretty toned and have a lot of shape in my body. But it doesn’t take much for my stomach to bloat out of i indulge in sweets/foods.

[@userinvctrl]

I’m 41. No TRT. Pretty jacked and happy with how I look. I cannot train as hard as I did before. Takes me days to recover. I also feel like shit after big stuff like deadlifts and legs. I am not gonna say this way is better. I just didn’t want to breathe heavy like most T guys I know. It doesn’t sound healthy.

[@AP-te6mk]

Lmao, shit hits the fan 😂. Ya know I thought about that as well. I've noticed that I've become softer over the years, but luckily my strength is still intact. My work capacity has diminished each decade. I could do more work in my 20s, strongest in my 30s, but slightly diminished work capacity, now it's down a little more in my 40s but my strength is still peak. Here's to staying strong for as long as possible boys.

[@Thunderstick-y8h]

Age , pharmaceutical drugs,alcohol , overtraining and work stress all contribute to low Testosterone, I think the issue with TRT is people start too young , 45 is the earliest you should start. Many men have taken it for a decade and not had a single negative side effect. 100mg is enough sometimes guys say they’re on TRT but they’re taking 250mg which definitely isn’t sustainable long term.

[@rubenhoek20]

I'm not old (30). For me, the sauna (5x 20 min a week) helps keep my T very high. Sauna can really help boost your T naturally.

[@DariusJones05]

Just turned 30 and contemplating taking it. Same as you with the injuries, 3 Achilles repair, torn hamstring, chronic ankle sprains, a dozen back procedures, migraines, etc, and I was wondering if yet would help with the pain and recovery. Not willing to give up training 😅

[@hanskonrad5850]

57 maintaining my 315x5 bench 275 5x5 solo lifts . 20% fat @265lbs above knee amputee on top of that still deadlifting 5x315 on leg day . Natty all my life. 5am at gym 7 days one body part per week for optimum recovery go like a beast when there . Pre-workout drink fasted then gym .

[@Sam-dq7ws]

Good job///give mr mike o'hearn's a run for his money.

[@Mocca3779]

If u don’t need trt then u do a 12 week cycle at higher doses, then pct, not a full year. It’s pointless with low doses if u don’t need it to begin with.

[@iamslade3967]

Been a UPS Driver for about 30 years. TRT is the only thing that helped saved my joints and my back.

[@WalkingWithGod888]

Glad to see you're back! Make more videos!

[@pedrosauro7543]

Im 38 workout every day . Boxing 6x we ,luft heavy 2x,3x week ,3 big walks (2hours) week,3 cardio (bike, elíptic,stairs)week(25 min),and fisiotheraphy 3x week bands (full body. My job evolve Animals and contention of then, Lil heavy sometimes. I feel like a beast in strenght and power,and amazing cardio But im celibacy for the l Last 13 year. No pain, Just some laziness úntil get Warm kkk

[@HMACLION]

Celibate for 13 years? That's a long time may I ask why?

[@pedrosauro7543]

@@HMACLION health,spiritual evolution, Sharp mind,and no problens with females and i red pill mgtow as well

[@brunn757]

I'm 54 was on TRT for 15 years been off for 3 years and my T levels flutate between 550 and 700. I eat a very strict animal base diet. I'm doing things in the gym I wasnt doing in my 20s

[@jayexile2487]

I was on for like 10 years and then I went off for 2 and I felt fine except for joint pain, joint pain is actually why I went back on.

[@mck974]

I'll b 50 in Sept. I took test when I was 20. No idea what I was doing. Came off no problem. I had youth in my favor. But now I'm in as good a shape as I've ever been, in relation to my age. I eat mainly carnivore but with sweet potatoes. Energy is low late in the day. But I'm ok with that these days. I get 8 plus hrs a night and I'm not on any prescription meds. Whole foods only.

[@georgecarousos6735]

Nearly 62, life long natty but not against PED's. I train every other day doing only one major muscle group, mainly partials (full range of motion will ruin your joints AND is 100% the opposite of how our ancestors expended energy) so that gives me nine days of rest for each major muscle group. I try to eat a minimum of four Ribeyes per week for lunch and the rest of the days hamburger patties or some other form of high grade protein and fat. I also average about 25 whole eggs a week. I eat a heavy cream and butter and not too many carbs. No drinking or smoking. I float at around 18% bodyfat without counting one calorie and have 17" biceps at 5'-9". I've never had high testosterone (highest was 460 when I was 58) but was in the low 300's in my early 50's. My androgen receptors must be decent since I'm still able build strength and muscle over the last 4 years. Every man is different and you have to experiment to see what works for you whether it is diet, PED's, workouts, rest, etc. "Wellness & TRT Clinics" believe every man needs TRT but that is often not the case as Mr. Hulse explains.

[@TedStrojny-p9r]

Elliot, I've seen you on youtube for probably a decade. I've never been on TRT or anything else , except for recently creatine. I''m 75. Pretty lean approx 17% 6'5" 222 lbs. For past 4 yrs been doing almost exclusvely X3 Bar system . Much less joint body pain issues (Been working out weights etc, regularly for almost 50years. Give the system a shot , might really help.

[@strengthcamp]

I’ve seen it, looks cool. Thank you sir.

[@Sustainashave]

I'm early to mid 40's never done trt train twice a week now, strength train twice a week.. recovery is the thing as you say, takes so much longer but embrace the ache only a sign of continued hard work. Maceball & calisthenics No supplements Fast most days 18 hours sometimes go 30 odd Low carbs High fat an natural proteins.

[@laststopbeforeheaven]

I did TRT for one year. I workout constantly and watch everything I eat, yet all it did was make me fat.

[@Xtramedium1961]

I’m 62 bodybuilder never took anything because I was nervous regarding hair loss, full head of hair 82kg lean, 60% tear rotor cuff, partial tear left bicep still pumping 3 days a week but some discomfort in delt and both knees( lineman for 42 yrs hard on the joints) cheers from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪

[@Sam-dq7ws]

stem cell the shoulders mate

[@jasonhoyt8232]

I'm 50. I've been on TRT for 15 months. I train MMA and can do well in sparring with guys who are my skill level in their primes (28-33). There's no way on earth I could do that without TRT. However, the idea of shit hitting the fan and not being able to get it does indeed worry me.

[@intipampa]

I'm 51 and never taken trt or anything like it, I train everyday doing old school lifts experimenting and mixing it up seeing what works best for me mostly with lighter to moderate weight for about an hour and a half until I'm tired. I check in with heavy weights to see where I'm at and make adjustments as needed and honestly I feel great and can move better than I ever could when I was younger

[@Icecold0505]

Have you done a sleep study? I was on TRT and it increased my blood pressure, resting heart rate and gave me full blown apnea. Off now for 4 months. Less jacked that’s for sure.

[@Darryl58]

I'm 68 and a recovering Catholic. Had very high T levels 28.6 nmol/L, I decided to try TRT just because I could. Number one difference is total relief of nagging pain associated with age. Body fat is also melting off of me. Midday tiredness is all but gone and just an overall sense or feeling if you will of wellness. I've been on it for 2 months and do not plan on going off of it. I would say I'm feeling the way I did in my mid 30's. Kind Regards Darryl

[@danielmcclorey6606]

Your a recovering Catholic ? Hugh?

[@Darryl58]

@@danielmcclorey6606 Yeah, its taken me years to get over the brainwashing! :)

[@GringoEarthquake]

37 lifetime natty. Lift 5x a week plus conditioning. Recovery has slowed down alittle and have to rotate off heavy days more frequently then before. I maintain alot of muscle at 6ft 279lbs, 14- 15% bf. Mostly hard for me mentally because i need more rest days for my own good but i dont wanna take them. I have to force them and its hard on my mind because i wanna workout. Other then thay fitness is improving overall. Last thing, fat loss feels slightly harder though 😢

[@entertainmentinternational1087]

I take trt and i think alot has to do with diet.. intermittent fasting and cutting carbs and sugar kept extra weight off and the swollen look..also trt the most 375 mg a week and the least i think would be 100mg every 8 days. And imo never more than 6 months with out a 2 to 3 month pause

[@angrybadgerfitness4256]

Yo Elliott! I've been on for 6 months and 42. I tested at 236 and now at 800-1000. Side effects really have been chest and back acne. Prob because it was such a drastic change quickly. I stopped getting hard gains and just couldn't gain muscle. I also had a really hard time recovering and had short term injuries. After 3 months I'd gain 8 lbs of muscle and went from 13% bf to 10%. Pretty amazing! Acne sucks though. Especially if I have all have all this muscle but embarrassed to take my shirt off lol. Anyhow not sure that helps the conversation, but I am glad right now I made the decision.

[@jasonwelsh417]

44 and still train 6 or 7 days a week without taking anything. I feel great. I never pushed the intesnity quite so hard as to bust myself up so bad though so maybe that helps in the long run?

[@VeganStrong]

i'm 40. when i started my cut back in february, i was struggling with recovery, and i didn't think i could achieve the body i had in my 30s. so, i started heavily researching trt. my levels are pretty low, around 300, and since that's in the normal range, my doctor wouldn't prescribe it to me. so, i called around to independent clinics. everyone was saying if you're 35 and up, you should just get on it. but, i also had to consider the $200 a month bill for the rest of my life. ultimately, i decided not to do it. i pushed through and my cut turned out great. feel like i'm in the best shape of my life. only thing i'm considering now is transitioning from plant based to vegetarian. been plant based for 14 years, but thinking about adding milk and eggs back to my diet. i get enough protein, but plant based protein bar variety is lacking.

[@TheHouseOfRonin]

hey, im 40 as well. turned 40 last may 1st. I have been on trt for about 3 years. I have always paid about 110$-125$ so 200$ quote is probably some clinic over chrarging you. Look to get an online doc . I use TRT nation. Second , eat animal based, brotha. Lean organic meats with some veggies and fruits. Will recover much better

[@sunshinehappyfuntimes]

@@TheHouseOfRonin TRT Nation has been great. I'm so grateful to them. Dr Victor and Dr Tamer are both really nice and have helped me whenever I needed to talk about anything.

[@fly1ngpapaya]

I'm 38 and on trt, my levels were around 200 amd under. Got blood work a couple years ago because I felt like shit all the time. Now I'm at a good 700 or so.

[@jasperstone383]

I have heard that looking into a boron supplementation and cold plunges are huge in producing T naturally. Just a thought 👍

[@ladybird491]

My friend is 65 years old and ripped and he takes nothing, he cycles 2 hours a day and lifts like 2 today a week, he does a special diet which I am doing now and I am noticing muscle coming on. He basically keeps his body in fat burning for at least 6 hours and it is without ever fasting.

[@dannykicks603]

What’s the diet?

[@wille4247]

I'm not exactly sure how old you are but going on 47 and having been doing the TRT for about a year and a half the only side effects I've had are that sometimes the hormone levels become unbalanced and have had to adjust the dosage that I take. My testosterone ideally measures about 1200 to 1400. At one point during the blood work my testosterone came back at 2200+, so I had to lower the dosage that I was taking. Overall it has helped me thin down quite a bit because even though I've been bodybuilding for 30 years I had started gaining a lot of weight around the abdominal area despite the fact that I was training like I normally do and doing my cardio. The other side effect of which I think was worse is that I started getting more acne in my shoulders and chest. But if you take something like a DIM and there is also a supplement formula that Amazon sells to regulate hormones, which is specifically made lower acne. That made my acne clear up about 95%.

[@jacobrijos9580]

God bless you Elliot. I been following you for years. Thank you for all your videos.

[@coffeelover1763]

It might help to eat more fruits and veggies that are good for inflammation. Various ones do different things for the body

[@JackDangles]

Are you below 15-20% body fat? At only 35 I started to get all kinds of joint problems, knee pain and had to nap all the time. It might not be testosterone. It could just be carrying too much weight. I Lost 35 pounds and now I feel amazing and have tons of energy and no pain.

[@brianf9615]

I’m 62 and my bloodwork shows my testosterone is within the normal levels, however if my testosterone goes down below normal I will definitely consider going on trt. I see nothing wrong with being on it providing you need it.

[@paparadeliko]

I am 27 and i feel absolutely the same lol. I eat healthy, been competiting in muay thai n coaching, fully natural for ever, 1k ng/dl test, and i still feel wrecked after a good workout n my joints hurt. I got old fast damn

[@ainnovate88]

Been training for 21 years. Turned 36 this year jumped on tadalafil and G test. I feel like I’m in my 20’s again!

[@RA-pv8br]

What is 'G' test? dosage?

[@ainnovate88]

It’s a complex of Tongat Ali and other natural herbs

[@ainnovate88]

I’m trying to hold off on TRT as long as I can.

[@ChristopherRomero]

About to hit 50. Been weight training since early 20s . Test levels slightly under 600. Thought that was good until my trainer suggested I get on TRT and get up to 800!

[@shauntobin4336]

60. Natty. Luckily wrecked myself from over training by the time I was 33. My T dropped to 350 then. Natty lifetime but fcked from over training and eating too much plant based high oxalate "super foods". I have 50 pounds less muscle than I had at my peak but I'm about to be one of the few men ever to dunk a basketball in their 60s, And I'm dunking it pain free and like a youth. Natural T has been around 1100-1250 for last decade as I figured out health instead of just strength and fitness. GL!

[@Sam-dq7ws]

Ben Patrick protocols ?

[@Sam-dq7ws]

...and 100% on high oxalates suck//little veggies with mucho steak and some natural pro biotic like sauer kraut

[@shauntobin4336]

@@Sam-dq7ws I like his stuff and I've been doing some of the same stuff and have learned from him but the big difference is that he is training to get his good stuff better and I am rehabbing to get my non functional stuff working

[@AustinAdams]

Middle-aged guy here with decent abs and no joint aches. I’ll be turning 39 in July. Carnivore diet is where it’s at brother! 💪🏼💪🏼🥩🥩

[@la5074]

I bet your collagen levels are super low. I had the same problem. Then I researched the issue. Found that levels plummeted after your 30-40’s. So I mega dosed for a month then do maintenance dosages daily. Pain went away my dude. I swear by it. When I quit doing that the aches and pains come back. COLLAGEN FOR JOINTS. There are different types for different things like skin,hair,digestion, but you want the type for joints….

[@adidasvmr]

I’ve been watching you for almost 17 years. HUGE FAN!!! first heard of you because somebody thought I was you when I was living in Florida.

[@moststefanitely6737]

In my fifties and can't work out due to a nervous system disorder. I'd love to get on TRT so that I can normally function and work out a bit. I'm afraid if I begin, that I may not be able to maintain my dosages. Thoughts?

[@jessejames4967]

Im 48 and ive never tried TRT. All natty and im lean and muscular. I have a good diet and good energy levels. My libido could be better but I live alone and my focus is on business rather than women. Maybe if i had a hottie sleeping next to me my libido would be good. Ive never had my testosterone checked so I need to do that one of these days. Im glad you dont need TRT brother! Keep goin natty as long as possible! You look good, you feel good! Make sure you keep those avacados in your diet to lubricate those joints. 3 shots of pure olive oil helps too. Much love to you and yours Elliot! 💙

[@bigdaz7272]

50s are legit where you start paying for your 20s. For real :(

[@bigdaz7272]

@@steelearmstrong9616 Can't really comment on personal experience there but i would guess it only delays the inevitable a few Years.

[@codecaine]

lol I really started feeling in late 30s

[@Zerbijan]

Question to the Comments section: Have u tested ur Testosterone how high is it naturally?

[@jahreigns888]

I’m 50 and have never taken TRT nor tested my test levels. I have a stressful job and am often on my feet all day. I perform a basic fully body routine (squat, bench, row, pull down, incline bench, overhead press, quad extension and ham curls) once per week. I perform upper upper body one day and lower body a couple days later. I only perform one core set per lift. For example I will perform, after incremental warm up sets, a set of 10-13 squats reps at 315 lbs or 10-13 bench sets at 275 lbs. I am pretty strong and this routine has maintained my strength and I’ll occasionally get some gains. The rest of the week I do cardio and accessory lifts like curls or tricep extensions. My body can’t take much more than that though eating more protein would help. Concerning my testosterone I figure if I still get a boner when I sleep then I’m good. I could lose of a few pounds though people often tell me I’m jacked.

[@greenrhinoproject]

Creatine helps with the joint issues. Thank for the video

[@andytheindividual3862]

For me, sprinting once a week made my T skyrocket along with lifting 3 days a week.

[@gl1271]

Did you use anything to come off and reset HPTA like hcg, clomid, anything like that?

[@rjs7192]

Respect to this man!!

[@techpiller2558]

Big respect.

[@MarylandDevin]

40 pretty fit low energy but a lot going on. Considering it, maybe when older. Also considered shit hitting the fan scenario. I wasn't sure how coming off would be if you've grown to depend on it -producing your own test, etc.

[@dhinilshanker5541]

36 years of age.. all time natty.. weight training since 15 yrs.. workout 3 days of heavy weight training..hws it goin??.. good.. no severe injuries..good enough body.. 16% body fat..90% of natural muscle mass potential reached.. progress is very slow since im natural when it comes to hypertrophy

[@Barneyfithlawman]

Elliot maybe see if you need a CPAP. I think it has made a huge difference for me and I didn't think I needed one.

[@adidasvmr]

That’s me … 47 yrs old 5 kids, laborer, lifetime Natty, competitive natural bodybuilder. Holding down a disabled child. Train six days a week, including six days fasted cardio. Still going strong have a show this Saturday. If interested in my whole journey and my whole story, you could inbox me and I’ll get in depth

[@malcolmx724]

Elliott, I'll be 61 in 3 weeks. Natural and working out since 14 years old. Played 4 different sports collegiately. Competed in powerlifting. Used to train 6 days a week for decades. Moved to 3 days on, 1-2 days off. Still do legs twice a week(as you get older, the one body part that needs it). I can still lift moderately heavy, but only when I feel really good. Joint pains are real, no need to mask them...its your body speaking to you. You can't work out for decades, put your body through physical aggression without natural consequences. Plus, it's natural as you age. But your diet is key, as well genetics. Have real expectations, make adjustments as you go, and live well. Fyi... don't compare yourself to others, only to yourself.

[@Sam-dq7ws]

Keep up the lunges (one legged squats)

[@malcolmx724]

Absolutely! Appreciate it.

[@eddurriii8214]

I’m 39 n had a serious ankle break two years ago. From that I gained over 40 lbs n have been so sluggish since then. I have to take naps damn near everyday after I’m done work or do something around that house that takes some energy. Been trying to force myself to be active n walk or ride the Peleton to help loose weight but it only helps so much. I’ve been contemplating about asking my doctor about getting on TRT temporarily to help me get my weight down n build my stamina up. Not sure if that’s what will help the issues exactly but idk what else to do.

[@sfrealestatedealmaker6001]

Get a step counter watch or an Apple Watch, walk and get 10,000 steps a day. I’m in my mid 50’s and lost over 80 lbs in 2 years and kept it off. Then hit the gym when you feel up to it. Also make sure to get at least 30 mins of direct sunlight daily, it helps with your testosterone and vitamin D levels, you’ll feel better instantly with just walking outside in the sun every day.

[@coltb4924]

Elliot look up pat macmanara, workout program combat strength training. Pats a former delta force operator in his late 50’s dudes all natural and a complete bad ass. You should do an interview with him

[@marius3347]

You will be back bro no problem. Addiction will never stop

[@meatneedsmuster]

45 in august Train hard everyday no days off. Only eat meat and eggs for last four years.

[@Sam-dq7ws]

throw in some sauerkraut

[@jaxx7050]

Did steroids since I was 20 years of age now in my 40s … had a 3 year complete off period and I’ll tell ya IT WAS COMPLETELY AWFUL every single day HORRIBLE!! Bones hurting , depression, anxiety, low libido… , aggression!! Emotional as a girl just horrible… got back on trt levels with one real cycle a year and fell awesome most of the time .. checked everything in my body and everything A-on 💪

[@JamaaLS]

I had the big head on TRT until I figured out how to lose weight while on it. Take collagen for joints.

[@Juanmorerep]

Never took any TRT and I train since I was 13 I’m 52. I have decent muscle definitely get tougher to to train as I get older as you know health and mobility is the muscle we want to flex

[@Иванпонимаете-г4ш]

How did you get your hair back ?

[@ev0wat]

Thanks for this Elliot, I was wondering whatever happened and the progress moving forward from trt so thanks for making this video for us. However, do you think you’ll go to a low dose trt when you’re 60yrs old when you actually need it? Like half of what you were taking just for health not for strongman etc when you retire from it all? Cheers keep it up

[@finnomuiri7051]

Try pine pollen from mother nature .

[@215RANDOM]

Appreciate the info..

[@briansylvester9982]

So you did a year cycle and called it TRT. 200 mg of test per week doesn't make your head swell. It does help with recovery, focus, libido and physique if lifestyle is in check

[@bravenew469]

Lifetime natty and starting to use more kettlebell training to keep my body young.

[@JeremiahJohnson-cn4zb]

Yo Elliott I'm 49 soon to be 50 and I love going heavy and my goal is to get stronger . I've wondered how trt could change me. I've never tested my t levels because lifting has made me feel young. Lots of energy and I am making gains slowly but surely. I'm guessing doing heavy compound lifts has increased t levels maybe. Anyway love your content and gotta say I'm Def becoming curious about trt.