No Pain, No Gain! | MythBusters | Season 7 Episode 12 | Full Episode

Dr. Jamie and Mr. Adam torture their guests, co-workers and co-stars to collect data on pain tolerance experiments!
Using science as a tool, Hollywood special effects experts attempt to debunk rumours, urban legends and popular myths that have captivated the minds of many individuals.
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[@deadboy9955]

Childhood is thinking that Adam is the crazy scientist and Jamie is the cool, level-headed one. Adulthood is realizing that Jamie is the crazy scientist, and Adam was the level-headed one who was just really hype about everything.

[@teruphoto]

Still waters run deep

[@JohanDuck]

Jamie wants a big boom

[@Stuka01210]

Holy shit I never realized this

[@tander101]

​@@Stuka01210 Neither did I 👀

[@idkcba]

True that 😂

[@St00rt]

"Adam lasted just 59 seconds" - That's what she said.

[@Valfaun]

good thing the electrical pain test didn't damage any of Jamie's subdermal circuitry

[@therandomace5493]

He's smart enough to have installed measures to prevent such an eventuality.

[@omnirath]

The intergalactic walrus fondation monitored all of his life constant during his mission on planet earth

[@TwitchFast]

It's a shame they didn't consider body weight/fat % as a factor with temperature tolerance, a lot of the guys were quite lean looking, and that one who lasted to the limit was a large bloke.

[@atabeel]

Exactly. Average woman body fat content is almost twice as high as average men.

[@SandCoffeeRocks]

While I 100% agree with you, I can understand why they didn’t/wouldn’t take it that far: that amount of testing might not have fit into the episode time limit, and extended testing may have discouraged the average viewer from watching the show... as a kid, I know I watched Mythbusters for the jaw dropping explosions and collisions, not the number crunching! It’s really only now, 15+ years after this episode aired on TV for me to see, that I enjoy seeing the theoretical side of the show as much as the explosions.

[@ignispurgatorius5297]

Alot of their experiments lack that scientific rigor, which is also something I realuze now that I'm alot older (and yes I know they did a show to entertain, still, just shouting "science, yeah!" is what leads to myths in the first place). This often starts with sample sizes and ends with accounting for different variables, especially when it came to myths relating to your average human. I'd just like to remind everyone about the episode where they tried to test vodka vs poison ivy and despite suppsoedly 80% of people showing a reaction, everyone in their team with the exception of one was pretty much immune.

[@TforTomm]

​@@atabeelthat difference is not in the arms, so it's completely irrelevant to this test.

[@EsteemedReptile]

Normal person getting burned: "HOLY SH* THAT HURTS TAKE IT OFF AHHH!" Jamie Hyneman getting burned: "I would say that qualifies as pain. Ow."

[@gobboman]

Took him a while to boot the pain subroutine

[@Stuka01210]

Wouldn't the testing on redheads be ruined by bias though? They were called in to prove redheads arent weak, which means they've got a reason to be tougher while the others would just see if they could take the pain

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

They didn’t tell the volunteers it was a pain test until they were in front of the chair. I’d bet the group shots of all the red heads wasn’t until after the test was done.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And I feel like the swearing test overlooked a thing: stress. The swearing is done to relieve that stress, so there would need to be a reference test with not saying anything and sitting still, and one with screaming and moving. Just to see if being able to vent stress improves.

[@maxbracegirdle9990]

Yeah, theyre also doing the same test twice, so they know what they're getting into and can handle it better. But its a science show, not a scientific study.

[@martinhuhn7813]

It gets skewed as soon as the participants know, that they were selected due to a specific trait. However, the sample sizes were small and the results were not tested for statistical significance anyways. And the hosts knew what they were testing for and interacted with the participants during the tests (and likely before as well). And there was no normalization of the data for other factors, not even important ones like age - which would correlate with child bearing in women. And factors which likely influence the behaviour and attitude were not eleminated. The participants were all looked after by men (and celebrities) and men and women might respond to that differently. It is difficult to get a sufficiently good design and the necessary sample sizes for this kind of experiments, even in serious scientific studies. But as presented here, the data does not allow for more conclusions then "there were no extreme and clear cut differences".

[@Sokar12345]

i dont think the men vs women test is as clear as they say. looks more like that if you have sufferd extreme pain you can endure more after.

[@cejannuzi]

But that brings up perception. It's a subjective judgement as to what one thinks is unbearable. But the women who have done childbirth with no painkillers have tested that limit and beyond.

[@Sokar12345]

@@cejannuzi sure but thats not necessarily gender specific which tis test is about. it just so happens that in the modern world most people dont suffer great pain aside from childbirth.

[@atabeel]

There are even more errors in my opinion. Sample should be also normalized by BMI or maybe fat content as we all know more fat equals more insulation and we know that average women have more fat content than average man. But to be honest "gender war" episodes of mythbusters are mostly biased in some way just to overthrow these stereothypes.

[@cejannuzi]

Redheadedness tends to be a northern latitude adaptation. I'm not surprised at the resistance to cold.

[@zazoreal5536]

The feed tank will never explode but I give them 10/10 for safety. LPG needs oxygen to ignite and the mixture needs to be 100% correct or no flame. A LPG Canister just doesn't have enough oxygen inside, if any at all, to get the correct mix. The pressure from inside + The need for oxygen will just stop the flame near the nozzle. We have done safety drills for this. But beware! Some gasses don't need oxygen to burn! These gasses use what we call a flashback protector. Acetylene is one such gas. Just for reference....I have been working with LPG for 15years. If your LPG bottle has turned into a flamethrower. Put something protective over your hand and close the valve "quickly". Don't pick the canister up and take it outside. You will burn the whole place down. If the valve is jammed or you don't have hand protection. Use a wet towel to stop oxygen from getting to the valve and the flame will die out. Proceed to take the bottle outside and be careful not to burn your hands on a hot gas canister. Allow it to decompress for safety and bring it to your local gas supplier for inspection.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

When the tank ruptured after the tank it became obvious that once a crack happened, it will just continue, because the entire tank is compromised and can't hold the pressure. But it would be easy to calculate how much thrust the thing needs to fly 150 ft. We just need the total weight and the pressure. From the pressure we can get the exhaust velocity, and from the weight we can get the density of gas. And from that we can get the amount venting out per second. The rest is [mass vented per second] x [speed of the exhaust] x [gravity] to get thrust in N And with thrust and weight we can know if it will lift off.

[@d4slaimless]

To burn you need oxidizer. Acetylene doesn't burn without oxygen, it undergoes explosive decomposition when pressurized. This decomposition can be initialized by electric spark or fire. That's why there is a solvent in a balloon. However, in a pipe (hose) acetylene flows as a gas, and so there is a possibility of flashback.

[@PlutoTheSecond]

They should have done a second no-swearing test, to ensure that the increase in tolerance wasn't because they'd experienced the pain once already.

[@ScorpiusZA.]

Ive been looking out for this one.

[@ryanbennett4239]

The bleeping at 41:09 is morse code, the editors saying hello 😂

[@chriscreaturo8809]

Ahh, I remember seeing this live, so many memories

[@gagz9k]

Its fun to see Jamie going off-script and being joyful around people. I hate what production did to Jaime personality on the later half of the show run.

[@richardelder6519]

LOVE THIS EPISODE!!🤩🥰

[@roserichardson9480]

Tory isn't joking about it reminding him of his childhood, by the way. Apparently he almost burned his house down with a flamethrower as a kid.

[@Olectralab]

I love mythbusters :).

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Totally agree on the propane rocket being plausible. There are special circumstances, but those circumstances can happen. Someone stores an old, partly full tank in a garage, there are leaks and the tank sits in water for years and starts rusting through. Later they move, the new garage is smaller, so they have to cram things together, and the tank sits between metal shelves. A fire happens and the shelves work as guiderails.

[@TheKrister2]

Well, they forgot to account for two things with their pain tolerance testing. They did not separate out mothers from non-mothers in their redhead testing, like they did with the first ones. The aggregate average thus is not necessarily correct, because the mothers will, if you go by the last tests averages, have increased the total average. For the last test, it seems like they just picked random non-swear words, and did not account for whether the person actually uses said words as replacements to cursing. The effect may very well be subjective, and any random ol' word from down the street may not be able to be used to measure the desired effect. Essentially making the test flawed, by the onset of cursing being more "charged," for a lack of a better term. I certainly doubt it'd help me reduce or endure pain etter by shouting "hello" or something to that effect. Not that it matters, given how old this is. But eh.

[@detorrV2]

Separating the moders isnt needed since they are testing redheads in its totality, and that includes mothers. If the mith is right, those mothers would also have lower tolerance and thus the average would still be lower than nonredheads.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

When they tested the redheads my mind subconsciously started creating a venn diagram.

[@dogewow8999]

This episode made me think video editing was really hard as a child since they said blurring the swearing mouth is expensive.

[@rjspires]

I got people doing the ice pain test at work for a week after seeing this episode. A few of my co-worker could do it for more than a minute but a lot couldn't manage 10 seconds.

[@Herbalaties]

I haven't felt pain 10. I've had 9.5 from burns and since relate 10 with blackout pain.. that was severe shock though, then had to drive myself to hospital while intoxicated.. the shock actually helped with that though, was halfway there when I realised I was hoping for a police car to drive past to drive me the rest of the way.

[@Klaevin]

for those wondering, the morse at 42:08 was : ...././.-../.-../- - - H E L L O the morse at 44:24 was : ..../..-/.-./-/... H U R T S

[@MadHax-wt5tl]

Cheers, I was wondering.🤬

[@br1mdaddy]

48:19 this look exactly like torture in movie saw

[@colinofay7237]

42:18 Im wondering why it cost a lot to blur, software when this season aired and before had blurring tools that meant you could do it both quickly and easily

[@exotic-gem]

Bleeping curses is such an American idea 😆

[@samlomb2093]

Plenty of other countries either bleep them or force people to use made up words instead of swears. I've translated subtitles before and for war films we had to get very creative in our translations so it could be shown on tv

[@opticmidnight2629]

@@samlomb2093 most of the time these shows are on during when kids are off school at least where i am but they also bleep when kids are in school but not all kids are in school.

[@DavidRichardson153]

Sometimes, the bleeping makes something funnier. My go-to example is the skit from Robot Chicken where Emperor Palpatine gets the news of the first Death Star having been destroyed. You can find both a bleeped and unbleeped version of it online and here on YT. Personally, I laugh a lot more at the bleeped version.

[@samlomb2093]

@@opticmidnight2629 Where I live I think it is contingent on time slot. If its before like 11 pm it can't have bad language

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@DavidRichardson153 Reminds me of an AVGN episode where he used "asshole" and it was bleeped, then he said "ass" and it wasn't, then "hole" and it wasn't, then "asshole" again and it was bleeped. And James' AVGN character was aware of it. And then there is obviously the option to bleep, but in a way that makes it totally obvious what is said. Like keeping the first consonant. The more interesting thing is that they also blur the mouth, as if children would be able to lipread.

[@chanahasnomana]

This would have been the perfect mother's day upload lol

[@MrMarinus18]

3:20 Torture isn't so much about pain but about breaking someone's will. Order that you do it, words, the inviroment and many other things play a role.

[@MrChazZen]

In this episode you can really see they hate each other when Jamie hit Adam with a rubber mallet. /s

[@arnabbanerjee676]

You could just wear a mask adam, but no we are mythbusters we build it ourselvs😂

[@MrMarinus18]

12:00 My parents actually have a garage about that size in surface area, though it is taller it isn't fully head height.

[@depaula1710]

Baby Hippo 🤣

[@willh1846]

Couldn't you have just worn a face mask? So unusual for Adam to over engineer😂

[@Canadiancoinguy]

Gotta have good television/entertainment though.

[@roseedge5626]

RIP Grant 😭

[@kevdawson2538]

Um that launcher looks strangely familiar…fallout anyone? Mini nuke launcher haha

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Totally. And the Fat Man is interpreted from the Davy Crocket recoilless rifle. (So basically a "rocket launcher") Recoilless because it vents the gas out the back

[@cr0cket01]

wonder how deadly a shockwave the full gas tank made

[@PhtevenTheDuck]

The nociceptors are on the surface of the skin and send a pain signal to avoid frostbite. It's not actually about being cold, so fat should not be a factor. But other things might: For example, studies show that adults with ADHD have a lower tolerance for pain, and particularly cold. This corresponds with Adam struggling with both (since he's ADHD).

[@tHaH4x0r]

You claim fat shouldn't be a factor, but there's 2 problems with that statement. Firstly, surface temperature of the skin is not just a function from outside temperature and conductivity, as it is also being actively heated from inside the body. Fat could prove to be an insulator and thus be less efficient in transferring heat to the outside, making the skin effectively colder. Secondly, you are mistaken that nociceptors are only on the 'surface of the skin'. They are also in joints and organs like bladder, digestive system but most importantly muscles. In particular, TRPA1 is one of the receptors afor cold (although its still unclear whether these also do extreme cold, but I digress), which are also found in muscules (source: ANKTM1, a TRP-like Channel Expressed in Nociceptive Neurons, Is Activated by Cold Temperatures by Story et.al.). The pain induced in these could perhaps add to those directly on the skin, thus making people with less insulation feel more pain as the cold can penetrate deeper in muscular tissue and thus stimulate those receptors as well..

[@allanshpeley4284]

@@tHaH4x0r I declare you the winner of the comments section of this video.

[@krokodil191]

Last time I seen this episode I was in high school...16 years ago. Good memories

[@tHaH4x0r]

I wonder if there's any bias in the ice bath testing of men vs women, in terms of BMI. Fat is obviously a good insulator, and thus might help keep the painful effects of the ice cold water at bay for a while. The people you see give up the soonest are quite skinny, and conversely the opposite seems to be mostly true for the ones doing the full 3 minutes. Of course i cant judge from their small sample group, but looking at the 2016 average BMI statistics, females are about 0.5 BMI point higher than males. Also, fat distribution between males and females is noticeably different, although I am not sure how exactly that affects fat on the arms.

[@johnsmith-de3tl]

the only problem was the sample amount and using cold. theres also a 60% variability between people due to genetics. basically, it's highly individual and not a men v woman thing.

[@PlutoTheSecond]

42:08 H E L L eating O

[@tyleranderson-]

They should get Goggins to do the pain challenges😂

[@OxleyOffer]

Yeah and then find a woman who can beat him

[@arrozdoce1951]

Not cursing but saying "fluffy" words with rage for me its the same thing as cursing (right Jamie?), i can´t say that was a logical test for him

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Yeah, I thought about cursing being used as way to release the stress. They should've done a control test where no movement and talking is allowed and another one where screaming and movement is okay. Just to see how much venting helps.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

I wonder what the real actual reason for the women/mothers having such higher pain tolerance on average than men have. Like I would assume it's probably main about fat composition. Fat is an insulator and women in general have higher body fat percentage than men (to have a healthy body functions). Also, women run "colder" than men, meaning they use less calories and why they feel colder when men do not. So this could mean they can handle cold easier as they are colder. But then we get to the experience: If mothers can withstand more pain because they've experienced a very bad one for a long period of time, shouldn't we assume this extends to another obvious thing related to pregnancy: Periods. Now, a lot of women don't actually have painful periods, so that could also impact the results. But... It's kinda weird to ask "how painful are your periods" unless it's a medical survey so I totally get why Mythbusters can't really do it lmao

[@dace8030]

Not sure where they got the "men" but wr did 8min ice bsths after training in uni weekly.....

[@madmick6275]

Those dude's they got to do the test looked a bit wimpy!

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

On August 2018 the average US propane retail cost was approximately $2.48 per gallon. The wholesale price of propane in the U.S. always drops in the summer as most homes do not require it for home heating. The wholesale price of propane in the summer of 2018 was between 86 cents to 96 cents per U.S. gallon, based on a truckload or railway car load. The price for home heating was exactly double that price; at 95 cents per gallon wholesale, a home-delivered price was $1.90 per gallon if ordered 500 gallons at a time. Prices in the Midwest are always cheaper than California. Prices for home delivery always go up near the end of August or the first days of September when people start ordering their home tanks to be filled.

[@nijucow]

How is blurring expensive lmao

[@espenstoro]

Maybe they ran out of blur fluid on the editing machinery.

[@OwlskiTV]

I think he meant more that it'd take more effort to the editors having to blur the mouth a bunch of times. (don't think the irony isn't lost on them though that they over-engineered a solution that took more time/effort)

[@OxleyOffer]

Not to be rude but they pick the nerds

[@anderskardahl1166]

"Your peeps" they both are gingers ? 😅

[@th-pw8pn]

This is not the "no pain, no gain" myth. That is specifically dealing with the process of building muscle through weight training. You must induce the pain of lactic acid in order to build muscle. If you do painless low intensity exercises you do not build muscle, hence "no pain, no gain". It's also not really a myth, more of an established fact... This one is pain tolerance differences between people based on myth...

[@Kaldrin]

Thank you for publishing these episodes for free

[@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980]

This is one of my favourite episodes simply for its creative use of linguistics. 🤬🤣

[@VO1D22-ch5bm]

Me watching this as a college student, with a full apartment using my dual monitor PC to watch this:

[@grimace4257]

Did you just want to tell us that you have an apartment and a computer with 2 monitors?

[@3FFAE6E0]

​@@grimace4257 yeah that's kinda wierd

[@fergusmason5426]

Of course gingers don't feel pain as much as real people.

[@Nivola1953]

Do you know what’s the Chinese slang for white race people here in SE Asia? That’s Ang Mo, that translates to Red Hair 🧑‍🦰. I wonder why 🤔🙄🤭

[@CreativeWorkflowHack]

so its not that women can endure more pain, its that they can give birth wich is on a pain level most men never expirience

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And men are told to "be strong and endure it" because "a real man doesn't cry" Men are basically expected to tolerate pain.

[@CreativeWorkflowHack]

@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah I mean. If you cant hold your Hand in cold water for 3 min I will think less of you lol

[@Dr.Claw_M.A.D.]

We successfully determined Adam is a wuss and Jamie's a stud.

[@AeonLibertas]

To the surprise of absolutely noone

[@Dr.Claw_M.A.D.]

@@AeonLibertas we suspected and generally accepted wisdom but there's the proof.

[@Dr.Claw_M.A.D.]

So from these results Adam is a disgrace to red heads as his tolerance was well below average let alone red heads who have a higher tolerance for pain.

[@timsonsuperman]

Adam pull's out in just under a minute. 🎉

[@lecxarcangel5644]

Do they have Mythbusters in any streaming platform??

[@MrValis169]

"In your face, me-oh" was the moment I liked the video

[@krokodil191]

34:45 Holly Jesus, that girl is/was amazingly pretty...

[@jakubpluhar4914]

I feel like if women have more pain tolerance than men then it might be because men with low pain tolerance survived more. Men very often went to the battlefield or defended other people from animals or some enemy. The men with very high pain tolerance wil get cut, bruised, broken bones but they'll keep on trucking andd continue fighting which will probably lead to their death. Meaning the high pain tolerance "gene" will not get past natural selection. Meanwhile the men with low pain tolerance will maybe get a big gash on their arm and then try to get to the backlines, retreat maybe even run away because the amount of pain they're in makes them give up. This means that the men with low pain tolerance are way more likely to survive the battlefield and thus will replicate more and spread among the male population. Of course this is just a "fun" little theory that i got the idea for suddenly, so absolutely zero proof but I think it sounds plausible and i just wanted to share it.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Basically the tendence for men to do "hold my beer" moments helps us die earlier. On the other hand, the chlidbirth situation. Have the women tested a higher pain tolerance because they gave birth without painkillers, or did they give birth without painkillers because of their higher pain tolerance. Does the experience of pain increases one's pain tolerance...

[@jakubpluhar4914]

@@HappyBeezerStudios I don't think a single session of intense pain is going to help you all that much in the future, although I'd guess that someone who underwent torture will have a higher pain tolerance so there might be something to it. And yeah I feel like if men have lower pain tolerance, it's to correct for our stupid "hold my beer" moments, if you have lower pain tolerance and fuck up during that hmb moment and get hurt then you'll stop, if you could walk it off then you'd continue and die lol

[@frizzlethecat2084]

@@HappyBeezerStudios Yes, good question, it's possible the correlation/causation-conundrum (I love the word conundrum) is at work here, too. I also wonder this: Apparently, the female body produces so many happy-enzymes during childbirth (or rather - immediately after!) that on average, a woman will remember that they were in pain but not remember THE pain. It just gets blurred out of the memory. It's thought to be the reason why women don't just stop having babies after the first one. If that's the case, would the childbirth even be a factor in this testing since the ice-water is not causing their bodies to produce happy-enzymes? (Probably more like "WTF are you doing there, take your hand out!!!"-enzymes). I always liked the episode but I bet that doctor in Stanford would have more accurate ways to test for this women/men-myth. Always wondered how long I would last.

[@GjuroZlikovsky]

please please please release uncensored Kari's swearing 🤣🤩😝

[@joe125ful]

She:Its was maxed out.. He:Heh that was nothing:):)

[@NorwayT]

Men showing less resistance to pain could simply be because pain is a protection mechanism. If you want to come home safely with the meat you have hunted, removing yourself from a painful and possibly dangerous situation could be an overall survival mechanism. Men who have been gravely wounded in war for example, don't pass out any more frequently than women in childbirth.

[@jamest6990]

*San Francisco men.

[@emptyforrest]

Small sample sizes, and only testing one type of pain. this is probably the worst test MB have done imo. because most real actual studies by actual scientist have come to the exact opposite result, that men have have a greater pain threshold.

[@MichaelKingsfordGray]

Myth Buster?