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No Pour Agar - The easiest agar tek for mycology.

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EzMushroom

EzMushroom

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How to make no pour agar tek using brown rice flour (BRF), this technique uses a Instant Pot for sterilization. This tek is great for beginner mycologysts and mushroom cultivation.
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@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom Ай бұрын
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@Jaimelapoesie
@Jaimelapoesie Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, especially the part about pre-PC preparation, but two things: its a lot nicer to have level agar in your cups, and also its a bad idea to use your agar directly after PC'ing it. You don't know if you have any contams until days later, so going straight to inoculation is risky business-- and making agar is about minimizing that risk in the first place.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I think i missed in the video but the agar was allowed to cool overnight in the Instant pot before I used it, I didn't use it straight away. I genuinely never wait and see if the agar contams as I've done this so many times before I can trust the PC times. The LC syringes I am inoculating with have been sat around for months on end and would likely be the source. Contam on agar isn't a big deal anyway as you can always just do transfers to clean it up.
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205 5 ай бұрын
I really wish we could come up with a better term than "no pour", because you are definitely still pouring. I think a better fitting name would be "pre-pours". Its like how everyone calls them "flow hoods", but rarely do they actually have a hood... I know this shouldnt bother me as much as it does 🤣
@chicofromph33nix64
@chicofromph33nix64 5 ай бұрын
I remember the 1st time I saw a video on yt that was titled "No pour agar tek" and I clicked on it so fast. Literally the first second showed someone pouring agar into little cups and I was confused. I mean, I get it now, but a better name would work.
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205 5 ай бұрын
@@chicofromph33nix64 lol, right?
@Mushmammy
@Mushmammy Ай бұрын
Word
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 11 ай бұрын
@1:20 - if you mix your agar with cold water in to a paste first, it will not clump. Never add agar to boiling water. The clumping can be quite a pain.
@tedkravos7129
@tedkravos7129 10 ай бұрын
Are you serious? Dont you have to boil the paste? I will have to try it.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 10 ай бұрын
@@tedkravos7129 NO, you have to follow all the other instructions, but mixing the agar with cold water before boiling keeps the clumps down and makes mixing easier.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
Yes i have to agree with TechGorilla here, I actually think I used to do this (first few times i made agar, many years ago) then at some point i've switched my process to speed it up (probably when I stopped reading guides, always wondering why it was clumping). Now that you've pointed that out I'll probably go back to pouring it in cold then heating it to activate.
@ZombieSnax42069
@ZombieSnax42069 4 ай бұрын
Ty for the tip bro.
@Sahilkumar-fh3jd
@Sahilkumar-fh3jd 10 ай бұрын
WO-AA
@tedkravos7129
@tedkravos7129 10 ай бұрын
Do you need to put Parafilm tape or plastic wrap over the cups of agar when you store them and/or innoculate them? I see there the storage box is a goid solution. If the lids are tight, can I avoid the step of parafin wax tape or plastic wrap?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
Yes you can avoid it, there will be enough oxygen inside for myc to breath. If you worry about it choking just loosen it the lid slightly to make a small cap. Never had any issues
@retropursuit992
@retropursuit992 10 ай бұрын
Just wondering where do you get those pp5 tubs in the UK mate? I’m using condiment cups at the moment and seem to get crazy amounts of trich no matter what I do
@ZCRAIZED1
@ZCRAIZED1 6 ай бұрын
Polypropylene starts to deform around 180F. How do you sterilize these at 15 PSI that is 250F without having issues melting or warping?
@GriotDNB
@GriotDNB 10 ай бұрын
Any Dutch viewers know where to get these plastic pots?
@chihai_tran
@chihai_tran 9 ай бұрын
Solow, action
@emmanouelsmith4288
@emmanouelsmith4288 4 ай бұрын
I like the game of thrones music in the background
@tedkravos7129
@tedkravos7129 10 ай бұрын
Why do you have to wait 7 to 14 days to use them? I usually use them the next day after sterilizing the agar cups. I have had no problem. I buy my cups like yours at Dollar Tree, they work great and only $1.25 for 10 of them and they have not melted on me in PC for 30 minutes on my instapot high pressure.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
I mean once inoculated, i use them straight away from the PC too.
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother 8 ай бұрын
Ive heard its because you dont really know if you Actually sterilized it or not until a few days later. Its basically just another preventative measure against contams.
@wgkarolisc
@wgkarolisc 10 ай бұрын
Hello, great video. Wanted to ask what do you do with that extra agar mixture left in the bottle?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
I actually sterilize it either with the pots or separately (separately would be better as it might need a longer PC cycle) then store it. When I want to use it, I then PC it again and pour it out.
@DoppsPkin
@DoppsPkin 6 ай бұрын
@@ezmushroom how does the agar in the buttle get sterilized if you screw the cap on tight? why not leave it lose like the rest?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 6 ай бұрын
@@DoppsPkin The heat of the Pressure Cooker will penetrate the bottle and sterilize the agar regardless. Loosening the lids it about equalizing the pressure of the container, if you didn't do this you risk completely warping the plastic under pressure. The lab bottle has been designed to withstand the pressure so there is no need.
@user-ev5dd6tj9p
@user-ev5dd6tj9p 8 ай бұрын
Whata that red thing?
@retropursuit992
@retropursuit992 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I take it brown rice flour has enough nutrient’s to germinate something like MSS as well?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely
@love2ff
@love2ff 11 ай бұрын
hi what is the red liquide which was put into cooked agar?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 11 ай бұрын
Food colouring
@chicofromph33nix64
@chicofromph33nix64 5 ай бұрын
Blood from a chicken
@SmeeUncleJoe
@SmeeUncleJoe 6 ай бұрын
It's my understanding that InstaPots only go as high as 12 PSI unless you bought the newest one... I think it's called the Max or something like that. then it goes to 15. I have the unfortunate experience of having my plastic petri dishes melt in my Instapot. You must have a more resilient plastic for your jars. I ended up using the tiny Mason jars out there. I think they are cheaper and you can mod them if you like for vents and injection ports.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 6 ай бұрын
Plastic Petri dishes are not sterilized in pressure cooker, they are not made of Polypropylene. Which is why we use these pots instead.
@jaksmith6465
@jaksmith6465 6 ай бұрын
what are these made of ? they look flims and melt able @@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 6 ай бұрын
Polypropelene
@love2ff
@love2ff 11 ай бұрын
I'm just thinking of making a preparation today, do not have rice flour, can I blend the rice at home ? instead of it, does it work with sugar?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 11 ай бұрын
Blending rice will work yes. Try to get it as fine as possible. The mycelium will find the nutrients in the rice.
@tedkravos7129
@tedkravos7129 10 ай бұрын
What about using rye flour?
@ZCRAIZED1
@ZCRAIZED1 6 ай бұрын
​@@tedkravos7129 Just about any carbohydrate will work. So, yes, it should be fine. Sugar I have heard isn't good for some reason but I have not tried it so I can't swear to that.
@doctorwho5259
@doctorwho5259 11 ай бұрын
Heyy what time of plastic do you use, it doesn't melt in the presure cooker?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 11 ай бұрын
Polypropylene, that is normally symbolised with 5pp in a triangle or just PP on the plastic. Make sure you get pots which are thick (dont bend when squeezed) or else they can warp.
@Kevfactor
@Kevfactor 8 ай бұрын
is that food coloring for the red part? :)
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 8 ай бұрын
Yes it is. It doesnt have to be organic or anything the mycelium eats it up rather quick anyway its just for initial observing.
@TheTank8
@TheTank8 4 ай бұрын
Why not use silicone instead of micropore tape?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 4 ай бұрын
You can use silicone, just make sure you loosen the lids or the plastic will warp as it will create a seal. Then inject through the silicone.
@Blue-bf8lv
@Blue-bf8lv 3 ай бұрын
make sure its high temp silicone too!
@tonyoffermans3676
@tonyoffermans3676 5 ай бұрын
Maybe say something about alcohol and open fire in a SAB every time you do a video. When only wiping is involved, then the chance of your SAB exploding is far less compared to spraying. I use an induction coil sterilizer that I constructed from 5€ Alibaba components. Or one could use non-flammable 50% bleach, which I truly hate.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 5 ай бұрын
I spray my Still Air Box down with Soap Water so the risk is very low, I've also stopped using the butane torch inside the SAB all together since i realised it not productive for keeping the air still in the box if a flame blower is going off.
@eauprecieuse9742
@eauprecieuse9742 Жыл бұрын
Hello, you don't have any problems with condensation? I heard that doing PC with agar in the petri dishes were bad for that.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom Жыл бұрын
In the video i wiped all excess condensation from the pots before PC this along with leaving the PC to cool over night should reduce condensation. Finally condensation isnt the end of the world, when the mycelium colonises the plate it often clears up as the myc absorbs it. But you can see my pots as i pull them out have very little excess moisture
@humansrstupid8007
@humansrstupid8007 10 ай бұрын
Where can i buy these? Thanks in advance!
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
I got mine here www.ampulla.co.uk/shop/plastic/plastic-jars-with-screw-lids/50ml-hc-clear-pp-screw-top-jar/ I also pick similar ones up from supermarket but they dont have see through tops but they do
@ianwynne5483
@ianwynne5483 Ай бұрын
@@ezmushroomthanks for this link, polypropylene pots are getting harder to find
@harleythompson7954
@harleythompson7954 4 ай бұрын
No pour 😮 looks like you're pouring it to me 😂
@DeathFromAbove_5.56
@DeathFromAbove_5.56 3 ай бұрын
Boiling wot’uh
@840swed840
@840swed840 10 ай бұрын
I get instant pots are easy but I really don’t understand some people not just getting an actual pressure cooker. Especially since he has a gas stove
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
I have a Presto 23qt....and a second gas pressure cooker Its just easier to run small batches in an instant pot when you are busy doing other things. You should try it.
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother 8 ай бұрын
$$$ Brother. I dont have $200 AUD just lying around to chuck on a PC when there's SO many ways you can get around not having one.
@840swed840
@840swed840 8 ай бұрын
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother instant pots are literally more money than a presto
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother
@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother 8 ай бұрын
Brother in what world is $20 AUD worth of reusable pots "More Money" than a $260 AUD pressure cooker?????? @@840swed840
@jesb333
@jesb333 8 ай бұрын
@@840swed840 walked out of Wally World with a brand new Instant Pot Duo (8 qts) for $50, can't beat that.
@fattymcbastard6536
@fattymcbastard6536 11 ай бұрын
Are are all food colourings suitable to use for agar preparations?
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 11 ай бұрын
Yes i just use regular store bought food colouring, its not a requirement but does help for viewing.
@Majketu01
@Majketu01 10 ай бұрын
Darker color will give you a better view of your mycelium But it's always a matter of preference
@tedkravos7129
@tedkravos7129 10 ай бұрын
​@@ezmushroomI had mycelium eat the food coloring.
@ezmushroom
@ezmushroom 10 ай бұрын
Yes that happens once it fully colonizes @@tedkravos7129 always makes me chuckle. Take a peek at this pinterest post picture my blue oyster turned the agar back to plain colors but normally its after 100% www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/697424692319647534/
@SirDydimus86
@SirDydimus86 8 ай бұрын
​@@tedkravos7129that's when cubes start fruiting on your plate.
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