NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES? 9.7 DECK 351w. 9.5 vs. 9.2!

[@terrygrover6440]

Hello Ben, these videos your putting out are definitely going to help someone from making a big mistake when building a motor everyone always thinks bigger is better, keep up the good work and thanks for the truth , facts and knowledge 👍

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Terry, that one engine that the owner built and wanted it to go high rpms, I am sure have a big expensive door stop at his shop.

[@stuartwall8212]

All this brings back memories of when I was a kid with a Schwinn stingray, and I experimented with longer pedal crankshafts from 24", 26", and 27" wheel bikes in my 20" wheel bike. The 10 speed crank would hit the ground if you pedaled while turning, but the torque was amazing....but it was very limiting on how fast you could pedal. I liked the 24" bike crank the best and geared up my sprocket slightly. We could get the parts at swap meets and scrap yards, lol, some things in my life stay the same. Very interesting info. Thanks for sharing!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Stuart you are able to identify exactly what I was trying to get across. Your comment is exactly right on point! Obtw, did you mean gear up went with a taller gear out back? Bigger sprocket??

[@stuartwall8212]

@@benalamedaracing2765 I went from 36T front, 18T back to 36 front and 16 back. If I wanted an all out race, I would use a 14 in back and make my legs burn.

[@last302]

Great video Ben. I love all the stories and 351w Info!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks for watching!

[@terrysibley9636]

Very sharp. As always. Maybe one day I can bring my solid roller 311, Ford ranger out to Vegas. It would be a nice ride. Take care, from off the grid in Az

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Wow on a Ranger that is awesome!

[@mr.x1510]

Now I would love to see some of your daily drivers. I always went for rpm and you solidified some info and gave me some extra to think about. Mopar guy but I like them all, each have their unique attributes and design strengths. You're the best.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thank you sir. I remember we had a 383 Road Runner and it had so much usable rpms compared to the other 440 Road Runner that always spun its tires, fishtailed and never really went anywhere but burn rubber! lol.

[@mr.x1510]

@@benalamedaracing2765 yes, I opted for the 383 also but to heavy a car (great for street though) .I'm trying to get you to bring one of your street cars on . LOL THANKS BEN

[@danielwilson6665]

Hello again Ben, you always have such real world examples to enhance your point. I had the same problem with a 428CJ Mach 1 as that 440 Roadrunner with traction loss . It delivered huge torque but within a limited rpm range. I never won a race while going guardrail to guardrail with the tires roasting. Having a wider rpm range to deliver power in would have allowed me to lessen the initial shock upon leaving. 🏁

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@danielwilson6665, you had that experience as well with a limited big block rpm range. They are real awesome if it had slicks on the streets! lol I remember street racing a big block Chevelle and I would leave him out the gate by 1.5 cars while he was spinning, and he could not catch me all the way to the finish line! After that we ended up with a brawl on the streets because they did not want to pay up! lol

[@danielwilson6665]

@@benalamedaracing2765 Ben it’s an interesting coincidence that while I was making my comment, I was thinking about how a set of slicks would have made all the difference. Then in your comment, you stated exactly what I was thinking ! How cool is that ? Despite how we grew up on different sides of the country, our thrill of victory and the brawls of defeat are exactly the same. I think we would have been the guys to beat on that street or strip 🏁

[@Kaydee351C]

Ben my dad was a Criminologist, Capt.W.D.C.Metropolitain P.D. and Special investigator to the D.A. here in AL. I have more than some idea where you're coming from.

[@cgarris8674]

Hi Ben, Just curious - have you ever built a 10.297" deck height Ford? AKA the Ford 400. I've often thought of building a tall deck "Cleveland" 434 just to be different. :) But have always stuck with Windsor's and Cleveland's due to the cost of custom cranks, rods and pistons for the 400.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I have done 400's and they will make good torque with added crank stroke and long rods! Issue is you need to fill that displacement with a good cylinder head and manifold choice is close to nothing! Spacers on the manifold to head will fix these and if you do, the Holley Strip Dominator manifold has ample ports capable of giving you airflow to the cylinder heads!

[@dalewarriorofthesea3998]

Thankyou Ben More wisdom being shared Expanding our understanding and options to think and dream about

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks for your support of my channel by watching!

[@edgarmoreno3100]

Hello Ben, Great stuff !!! All this information makes so much sense . Now I must have a Ben Alameda engine

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Edgar!

[@Kaydee351C]

@benalamedaracing2765 I can only wish!

[@patrickmoore1017]

Ben, you're a wealth of knowledge! Great video!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Patrick! Glad your tuned in.

[@johnkraft7461]

Go Ben ! Knocking on the door of 10K subscribers 😎🙏🏁

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Correct John and I am a few thousands from 1M views!

[@Trev-fl1oe]

Thankyou for sharing mr Alameda. could you talk about bearing does our donts.peace

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Will do sir and thanks for the suggestions.

[@timh6977]

Ben, you have lived such a varied life. How did you go from a street racing/ brawler to patroling the streets in the LAPD? Tim Australia

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I wrecked my car when I went straight to a mansion's front lawn Christmas Eve 1976! lol. When i started @ PD is when I quit the street scene cold turkey.

[@allenmarelic9916]

Love your info .. you know you have strong motor when the front lifts up in the air I give credit when it's due and it's due with Ben good on ya son great work 👏

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Allen! This is why I compete with NA because it is a lot harder.

[@paulmokidespaul5347]

Love your knowledge and experience.... Great job!!!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Paul.

[@jamesmiller2237]

Someone needs to make a 427 SOCH style head like they did with Boss 429 style Hammer head for the SBF. I know Ford made 1 but it didn't really go anywhere. It would be interesting to see how it would perform

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I am aware of that HEMI 5.0 which I have pictures off and recently someone passed on to me FI manifold R&D by Ford Motorsports. I will try to make a video of it as it was very interesting.

[@Nothingtoseehere363]

8.2 deck SHP 302 based windsor - what would be best bore stroke combo for a tough stick shift street car

[@benalamedaracing2765]

3.25 or 3.4 is very close and if you want to be special, I cut down a 2.100 rod to a 2.00 small chevy and ended up with a 3.48 stroke and ran a 5.500 rod. Car was slightly heavy that is why I went for as much stroke and long rods. But if it is all out light car with rpms I would prefer a 3.25 with at least a 4.125-4.155 bore to start my build.

[@Nothingtoseehere363]

@@benalamedaracing2765 thanks mate 👍

[@Jerome-t7t]

Thanks Ben, You think out side of the box and then you run it hard and Analize the results and try a few different combinations. Your experience is a wealth of knowledge.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thank you sir just passing along what i have learned...

[@jessekampegaard8491]

Daddy long legs with rpms lmao thanks Ben I just had to mop up my coffee off my table hahaha what a morning .. love this place haha

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Jesse and we need to laugh once in a while! lol

[@crf250x1000]

Excellent this is exactly what I like to hear. Thank you.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@terrysibley9636]

Excellent as always, in fact I think it's my third or fourth time visiting this episode. On quench, I'm running a 4.062 bore, can I live with a gasket that is 4.065, or is that just to tight. Thanks.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

As long as the dowels centered the gasket and heads correctly it should be good!

[@terrysibley9636]

@@benalamedaracing2765 sounds good,just following some tips, thank you as always. I'm using ARP HEAD Studs. And main studs. Keep the videos coming.

[@dalelockett2619]

Excellent stuff, Ben! 👍👊

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thank you Dale as usual!

[@Kaydee351C]

Thanks Ben!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Your welcome Keith!

[@doughelmle6575]

Hey ben .......4inch stroke and 4 inch bore i beam rod .whats the RPM capability of that combo ? I have 190 trick flow heads on a 360 mopar block [scat stroker kit ]. Its a mopar LA ......sorry.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I would call Scat and ask what is the rpm max for that rod with a 4 inch stroke. What heads are you running?

[@AndryshakGarage]

I keep thinking about this plate idea you talk about. When playing the intake do you have to change or cut the angle of the runner end when doing it . If you remember the name of the 2 part epoxy and are willing to share what it is I would appreciate it. I have done everything you have ever shared with us to my 408w that I put in my grandpa's old truck. I just started it for the first time this past weekend. Very responsive 900-7000rpm like nothing.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I will do a full segment on the plates coming up. Check my video shorts for the epoxy.

[@AndryshakGarage]

@@benalamedaracing2765 thank you Sir I saw it.

[@echota23]

Great video as always... The 302 crank 3.00" stroke on a 9.2 deck using pistons out of a 302? If i was going to use my forged .030 302 Pistons and forged 302 crank on a 9.2 what rod length would I be using? 6.09 rod length..., or are you referring to a 3.25, 3.40, or a 3.85 stroke crank.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

How heavy or light is the car?

[@echota23]

@@benalamedaracing2765 2500 lbs it is in a 90's isuzu pup short bed single cab. 4.56 rear gears, spool, 28"tire, 4 link.

[@michaelgiglio1571]

Hi Ben. I want to stay with the 3.50" stroke 9.2" Cleveland at 11 to 1 on the street with a toploader full weight car. Would the 6in rod with shorter pistons have any dwell gain and better piston function, or is the 5.7in rod always quicker from a rod angle point. Mike

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Run the longer rod it is worth it big time. My street car has a 4 speed top loader Mach 1 1970. It is impressive nonetheless and what heads do you have open or close chambered?

[@michaelgiglio1571]

@@benalamedaracing2765 Closed chamber 2V, 2.19 Manley intakes. Extensive intake port structureThe AU 2Vs have maybe 2mm higher intake ports and complete vavletrain raisen from 1977 polution, more clearance and more chamber Centrepoint eclosuer. Still provides 11-1 with flatopes with a US airgap.

[@ВасилийУткин-л4н]

Thanks for video!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Anytime sir!

[@lesismotors]

@52:08 Do You use standpipes screwed in vent holes at lifter valley for oil control not dripping on rotating mass? For example, 4932CPG Comp Cams product?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes I have done this most of the time on wet sump engines.

[@Anarchy-Is-Liberty]

Today, guys are building 900+ci engines and twisting them just as high as any "small block" engines. Pro Stock use 500ci and spin them 9000+. There is no replacement for displacement. I think it should be rephrased to: "There is no replacement for cash money!" The old saying has always been: "Q: How much does it cost? A: Well, how fast do you want to go?" Now, for us guys with pocket lint for money, I think it all depends on your intended goals, and what you're trying to accomplish. If all you're trying to do is run 10's or 9's or even in the 8's N/A, nothing really matters with all the tech we have available today. A guy with a 350ci can run just as fast as a guy with a 498ci, if all you're trying to do is get into the 10-8 second range (1/4 mile). You might even be further ahead going small, because a small engine isn't going to weigh as much, and 100-150lbs in weight savings means a lot in that performance range! But, if you are simply looking for maximum power, there is no replacement for displacement (money)! Period.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

There is a lot of truth in what you posted and may I add, NHRA 500cid Pro-Stocks have small strokes and super big bore to end up at 500 cid limit.

[@terrencehall7264]

Gday sir, I am a chevy guy. I am thinking of building a 350 with the biggest bore practicality possible. Zero Deck, steel heads ported with 2" intake valves, stock exhaust, stock intake port-matched, stock cam for now and 1.6 hi perf stamped steel rockers. H I'm hoping to get 450 hp. Do you have any suggestions?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Do not expect too much with stock components and those things can be done but needs a lot of custom work from the porting to the pistons.

[@stephenzadow3322]

Does spark plug indexing work and if so where should the earth strap line up with. Have been told serveral things.

[@lauriie1990]

Do you run less spring on the exhaust valves on any of your race engines

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes I do on all of them.

[@erichampton69]

Hi Ben I am Eric Hampton from s.c I have a 93 f150 short bed being that the truck 3995 lbs do I need more crank. Building 9.2 deck 351w 375 stroke would give me the rpms and the top with high raise intake and heads maybe some avenger heads this gonna be a street truck or a 4.125 crank with 9.2 deck afr heads 2.05 head chanted valve

[@benalamedaracing2765]

9.2 deck will limit you to the stroke possibilities! If I where you start with a 9.5 and place a 4.170 or as much as 4.250 even at lower compression will have lots of torque! I have a 3.00 inch main 4.250 for sale. New.

[@twotwocold]

Working in it like it's a Top Fuel motor calm down fellas 😂😂😂

[@joelmclaughlin2558]

Very informative!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Joel.

[@hectorortega9131]

What munufacturers you recomend buying these 9.7's blovks from?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I got the connection to get them from the manufacturer.

[@thomasmattson2389]

what about a bbc 632 high rev.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

If you have the proper cam and valvetrain plus a lighter rotational mass.

[@williamzoom]

Not too many people can compete with that LA pension!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes and it is even worse when you end up divorced then the lawyers tries to rob you of your pension. :)

[@yolocah]

in one of your videos I think I saw a vaccum pump,if so who makes it?

[@AmericanThunder]

Theoretical, two stroker 347" builds: same heads, cams, compression ratios, One is 3.4 stroke, 4.030 bore, The other is a 3.25 stroke 4.125 bore.(Dart) Who makes more power and why? I'm going to say the bigger bore will make quite a bit more power because it unshrouds the valves and will rev like a monster. What say you Ben?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I have built many such as you suggested. On a light car the 3.25 has the edge and when the car is a little heavier the 3.4 will have an advantage. Purely speaking of power the 3.25 will be up on the hp with a higher rpm potential. I have gone faster with the 3.25...

[@AmericanThunder]

@@benalamedaracing2765 very cool!

[@suntzu5836]

Don't know what happened?......It launched!......And then I saw GOD!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I remember a friend's super fast car felt like the g forces was pulling my face off my head! lol

[@ElvinLeadfoot]

It’s your office Ben:) Your (Mad Scientist Mechanical Laboratory) :)

[@warrenglover]

On my ls 5.3 lm7 . What deck do I have??

[@Kaydee351C]

The shorter the throw the more rpm.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes short stroke more rpm potential.

[@CanIbeFrank]

Rpms and gearing>displacement

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes sir the more rpms the more work or horsepower is produced! Thanks Frank.

[@Anarchy-Is-Liberty]

RPM = CFM, it's how all horsepower works. It's why guys use heads that can flow 500+ cfm, because cfm = power, hence "there is no replacement for displacement"!

[@charlesgraham9954]

ima old fart, my cousin still has his 85 he bought new. they say bigger is better.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Bigger usually is better no doubt except at all out racing where rpms is king and really need it coupled with gears @ trans and rear end.