"NO WAY!" Martin Keown FUMES Over João Pedro's Controversial Penalty Against Arsenal!

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

Michael Oliver and Anthony Taylor are the most problematic referees. How can they be known as the best? It baffles me..

[@Detroiy2k]

Why u baffled, football is scripted n cheats run it These decisions don't look right in the game

[@-tikusmedia8321]

with respect, they are the lowest standard!

[@MunsterIrons]

That pair of referees are joke

[@keithbrown4300]

The reason why it baffles you that Oliver and Taylor are known as top referees is because you are an Arsenal fan and refs are out to get you. Wah! Wah!

[@TheDiana1]

It's quite clear they're both corrupt!!!. A lot of their decisions were blatant cheating in plain site!!!.

[@dominykas88]

Embarrassing punditry. Two clowns are so desperate all the time to excuse these idiots refs

[@harryrob8221]

When it comes to controversial decisions that go against Arsenal, trust Jim White and Simon Jordan to jump on the bandwagon in support of such decisions.

[@eiler1987]

Pedro should not have been able to take the pen. If he has a head injury, he must leave the field of play to be evaluated and then after play resumes he can be waived back on if medical says he is cleared. Feigning injury is why this was called. If both players go down screaming and rolling around. It would be called as a drop ball situation

[@blackwaterproduction289]

Not really, Pedro got the ball and Saliba's head went towards Pedro's head! He literally hit him on the head! Anyway the guy in the email said it best, Arsenal have never lost a fair game since ever

[@Rayado_26]

😂😂

[@Name914.01]

@@blackwaterproduction289or maybe they were both going for a ball that was in only one place at a time…😂

[@harryn1602]

shameless arsenal fans will really make up any clueless narrative wont they 🤡😂 clown fanbase, stop crying and making excuses year own year. actually win something if you don't want to be the laughing stock of football.

[@Fbdhdbrbdjxn]

@@harryn1602telling the 3rd most decorated club in English football ”actually win something” is genuinely hilarious 😂 dry them tears mate, read the room. Not a single person on the planet thinks it was a pen apart from you and the 12 other Brighton fans

[@B58CQ]

I actually laughed when I seen the incident on the highlights. I couldn't believe they'd give a penalty for that. Villa fan

[@trevorsaunders580]

Then tell me how you see the penalty Villa got against Brighton last Monday, strangely enough Pedro was ìnvolved, he went to clear the ball but your player just got to the ball first, fair enough penalty, this is the same just the other end of the body. Although I have to admit it the first time it in 57 years of watching Football. .

[@rickydawson7388]

The PGMOL rule is that a headbutt is punishable by a RED card. Any other head-to-head contact is deemed accidental, and a drop-ball should ensue once both players are checked for concussion. Those are the PGMOL rules. The referee did not consider it a headbutt, as he did not issue a red card. There was no drop ball. The referee awarded a penalty - and there is no precedence for it.

[@neildrew3027]

this is the best thing ive read on this. Some of these pundits like jordan should be nowhere near football, he literally says he doesnt know the rules

[@Animalistic9]

@@rickydawson7388 the ball was in possession of Pedro, but challengeable whilst in the air, Pedro retained that possession when he headed it forward, Saliba's challenge was late, not late enough to be egregiously reckless, but not quick enough make it a fair exchange. Pedro won the ball, Saliba floored Pedro with the follow through. You can't not give that as a penalty. I showed the replay without context to my father in law and Arteta's countryman, he immediately deemed it a penalty and finds it ridiculous it's so hotly debated.

[@spm36]

Yes...If saliba hadn't connected with the ball before pedro..but he did​@Animalistic9

[@harryrob8221]

​@@Animalistic9It's interesting how you deliberately chose to ignore the fact that Saliba also made contact with the ball. You guys always allow your hate for Arsenal to cloud your judgement when analysing this issue

[@Animalistic9]

@@harryrob8221 he didn't make contact with the ball as a result of his action, contact was made from Pedro knocking it forward, Pedro won that ball... It was a hair strand of contact, that's not significant.

[@dh3735]

Would VAR have awarded a penalty if the on field decision was NO penalty? Not a chance! And if you look carefully, BOTH players go to head the ball. It’s an accidental clash of heads and no more. If Saliba had reacted like Joao Pedro did, no way does the referee give that!

[@Sir_Charle5]

Saliba did go for the ball and get the ball before the man..if it were a slide tackle and a defender got the ball before the man it wouldn’t be a pen. Definitely no pen. This is what Martin is saying

[@paulfenton9896]

Saliba DIDN'T get to the ball first. What replays are you watching. The the ball comes of Pedro's head onto Saliba's head, then Saliba head butts him. It's so clear on every angle of the replay.

[@Sir_Charle5]

@ my point exactly it’s more subjective than calling it reckless. Original call was no pen. Unless it’s a clear and obvious foul you can’t overturn because someone else other than the ref who’s not the field watching real time thinks otherwise.

[@isshh14]

@@paulfenton9896 Does Saliba connect with the ball BEFORE Pedro? Yes or no?

[@markbertolone6052]

​@@paulfenton9896Saliba got the ball before he hit the man, that's what he's saying, not that he beat Pedro to the ball

[@GermanChickenwing]

​@@markbertolone6052Wrong ..The ball was headed to him

[@boonkillla]

I’m sorry but anyone saying it’s a headbutt needs to lay off the crack. How many times do we see this happen in nearly every game and never see a penalty.

[@PGraptor359]

Kuveleski wiped out Gordan in the box....just a natural coming together...no penalty. Saliba and Pedro compete to win a header, both head the ball and their heads clash...penalty awarded....make it make sense!!!!

[@KC-bg6qn]

Saliba put his head onto pedros head. There you go mate. Sense made

[@thegreenbaizevampire]

@@KC-bg6qn And Kulusevski put his shoulder into Gordon's nose.

[@LewisM-t1g]

And Joelinton elbowed Bergvall .. and handled a ball directly leading to a goal and made multiple fouls throughout the game, and Burn did a deliberate handball but wasn’t given a second yellow .. make it make sense ..

[@eiler1987]

Not directly. There was an additional pass after the ball hits the hand, which is in a natural position, so it’s not a handball by the law. The ball can’t go straight into the goal if directly to a person who then shoots immediately. So neither of those two things happened. Which is why it was not disallowed.

[@crispouk3070]

@@KC-bg6qnif they both put their head towards each other, how can you confidently say that Saliba hit him 😂 they both headed the ball

[@rugbyanalyst1]

Arsenal this season have had some special decisions

[@ForzaMilan-di2zd]

All correct decisions. Letter of the law. No other teams have this issue, just Arsenal. Clearly disciplinary problem within the team 😂

[@markbertolone6052]

​@@ForzaMilan-di2zd shocking take. No other teams have issues with these things because they don't get called on them.

[@ForzaMilan-di2zd]

@ Arsenal have decisions go their way. Stop looking for excuses. Rice kicked the ball away, correct decision, Trossard booted the ball away correct decision. U lot must b stupid. Stop giving the ref a decision to make.

[@michaellafleur9513]

@@ForzaMilan-di2zdPGMOL employee

[@NYs9thwonder]

@@ForzaMilan-di2zdI would love to know what you are smoking to have these takes.

[@ayoak4474]

Simon Jordan and Jim White are hypocrites. Anyone suggesting that Saliba headbutted Pedro is a fool.

[@TheKnowledge1]

Jim White is an absolute Scottish spastic. Typical journo all idiots know nothing just provoke people

[@paulosborne3200]

It's a penalty lad don't be so in denial😂😂

[@richardsmith9615]

@@paulosborne3200 You've obviously never kicked a ball in your life.

[@hustler666100]

@@paulosborne3200 you dont know ball

[@stuartgolby9767]

He may not have meant it but technically he did headbutt Pedro, I mean hitting someone with your forehead is called a headbutt 😅

[@Farts6789]

Pedro threw an elbow yet nothing happened

[@timphillips9954]

Diiferent game. Keep to the point.

[@MisterKhanh]

I'm going to trust the professional who played as a defender's opinion in this conversation. Respectively

[@Fractalchemystical]

You're going to trust the ex-Arsenal defender and Arsenal fan Martin Keown's biased opinion? Wow, so smart of you.

[@aes1373]

As an Arsenal fan I dont have an issue with wierd refs choices here and there. My problem is that some really "new" type of decisions get given against us. A headbut Pen, two yellow cards for Martinelli inside 5 seconds, Rice red for delaying restarts which even rival pundits thought was shocking. Its just really odd.

[@M1ggins]

If you get a bit of the ball but take the player it's usually a penalty, see Coufal on Lacazette for an example, Arsenal fans didn't moan about that being a pen when the defender got the ball first.

[@aes1373]

@M1ggins that's a routine decision that can go either way and we've seen thousands of it over the years. I'm talking about new types of decisions. There's never been a heads coming together type of penalty before. Read the comment properly before giving a bs response

[@antetubo1]

This is the only fine margin I see in the last three seasons. I consider Arsenal champions if there is no sabotage against them. I have never seen a team being targeted non-stop by the entire league via schedule congestion, targeted referee and VAR assignment

[@DadreamDahreem]

Saliba sees where Brighton attacker is and still decides to fling his forehead after closing his eyes straight into the balls path regardless of what danger he causes his opponent - taking the man while hoping for the best - strongest bone, forehead, straight into most vulnerable area, attackers temple. If its the leg going straight into the player, it doesn't matter if player gets a glancing touch on the ball, still careless even possibly reckless (which is a yellow). Untimely apology by the FA as it is reasonable this could very well be a good call, even a yellow. The laws use terms such that describe careless, reckless, and excessive force/brutality all concerning damage or avoidable risk of damaging the opponent. frame by frame Brighton player can't see Saliba but saliba turns and we can see him look straight at Pedro's head - then, disregards the risk to the opponents most vulnerable area of his body. Read law 12 fouls and misconduct

[@beatsaf1483]

Talking over Martin Keown anytime he tries to make a point is a big part of this debate. This is all odd that refs took 3 secs on a play all pundits are talking about. This underscores what some are saying about officiating. One doesn't need to be an Arsenal fan here. The fact that Anthony Taylor is a big part of many games himself is or should be troubling but then again, this is a product that the Premier League is selling for entertainment and they decide what they want.

[@anthonytanudjaja3879]

so saliba's head is so strong that he just goes around headbutting people? that's a silly argument.

[@amanuelyohannes8626]

When a Rice got sent off for being kicked by an opponent, it was called the letter of the law as the ball hit Rice from behind in the process. In the same game, Pedro kicked the ball half way through the pitch and didn't get cautioned. Since then, this alleged letter of the law has quietly fazed out and we see players kicking the ball every game. And this Brighton penalty is actually ridiculous. Both Pedro and Saliba went to head the ball both had contact with the ball before their accidental head clash. But Pedro rolled on the floor as if he was hit by a hammer while Saliba innocently looked to defend his penalty area. In this incident, nobody was headbutted. I am sure Howard Web will come up with ridiculous justification as to why the penalty was given and will go unchallenged as usual; but real football fans know no such penalty will be given in the premier league in the future.

[@tareka.4857]

Well there arent many fans who know anything about football around. Most are just biased muppets, like these two clowns white and jordan

[@Sss-on2bv]

If you dont like arsenal it's never a penalty in a million years ...if it happens to your club then thats a ridiculous decision massive mistake from the ref ! Also a headbutt is someone deliberately forcefully smashing there head onto someone to hurt them! It is very different to a head collision....

[@Animalistic9]

@@Sss-on2bv wrong a head collision is when both players clash heads going for the same ball, Pedro won the ball clearly, then Saliba heads into Pedro, unfortunate but Pedro won it fairly and as a result won the penalty.

[@TheKnowledge1]

@@Animalistic9no Pedro knew what he was doing he put himself in harms way and played for it

[@Animalistic9]

@@TheKnowledge1 whatever helps you lil bro

[@Stick1983z]

Arteta’s cracking up this season.

[@dblanc3996]

You've just described about 95% of all penalties in the modern game.

[@JohnnyMc5]

Did he mention anything about the excessive time wasting at 1-0 taking an age on throw ins, free kicks and especially corners….no not a peep

[@roncho807]

A head butt is an intentional aggressive action with intent to cause harm. That was not a head butt!!

[@stuartgolby9767]

Not necessarily I mean you can butt heads without being aggressive, Like you can throw something in an aggressive manner and in a non aggressive manner

[@Fractalchemystical]

No it isn't, you can accidentally headbutt someone. Stop making up fake definitions of words.

[@roncho807]

@ Calm down please. Don’t give yourself a gastric ulcer!!! Nothing to be reved up about.

[@parryoyakhire6568]

Are we saying defenders should stop trying to challenge for a header because the opposition has an advantage?

[@Bonez1411]

You’re an expert about everything but can’t be bothered to know the actual rules. Simon some how you’ve outdone yourself on this one

[@garethwaugh1]

Konate went through Martinelli earlier in the season....media said he got the ball first. Hecleaned out Martinelli yet no penalty...... yet this is given as a pen. Saliba red card from almost the halfway line......red...... numerous examples since...... not red. Declan Rice given second yellow and red for delaying the restart.......countless examples of the same or worse before and since including in the same match..... unpunished. Trossard sent off for same thing when the ref blew when he was committed to kicking the ball..... second yellow and red. One word .... corruption

[@NibblePibbly]

If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be more alarmed that after 20 minutes they tried to hold out for the win by constantly time wasting.

[@MrKeefy1967]

They often take time taking a corner or throw-in. Just because the biased home fans start whistling every time when they're losing, doesn't make it time-wasting. Of course, Arsenal do time-waste, so do every club when they're winning. Try to have opinions of your own rather than just parroting a media narrative.

[@NibblePibbly]

@@MrKeefy1967 Erm, it is my own opinion.

[@MrKeefy1967]

@@NibblePibbly Fed to you and you've swallowed it. You're the reason that The Sun and the Daily Mail still sell newspapers - there's still fools about who'll believe their shite.

[@strollic5162]

You're a bit thick, aren't you? Nwaneri isn't a first-team player, never mind a player who usually takes corners, and everyone knows now Arsenal has a particular set-piece routine. So, it wasn't "time wasting"; Nwaneri needed instructions.

[@shobudski6776]

@@NibblePibblyOk. 👌😂

[@thehaight68]

I’d be pretty embarrassed if I was Jordan and White in this … Martin must have felt like he was losing his mind.

[@1CRU1]

Martin is 100% correct. Saliba won the ball first. Period! Why in the world didn’t it go to VAR for review. SMH

[@Hunter8413]

Saliba won the header first is that what you are saying because he didn't watch it back on KZbin.

[@Fractalchemystical]

Pedro won the header, the ball minorly touched Saliba's head afterwards as he swung his head recklessly in and connected with Pedro. If that duel happened on the ground and the player being fouled got the ball first and it clipped a defender's foot afterwards, but the defender followed through and took the player out, that would be a penalty. It was a clear penalty.

[@TimothyRipkey]

But he didn't win the ball, Pedro headed it on to the top of his head

[@AbdoTA93]

As much as I hate Arsenal, it's a disgrace of a penalty. Simon arguing you can have a reckless challenge with your head, citing Zidane as an example, calling it headbutt by Jim.. Gotta be a wind up rather than actual arguments.

[@Otto-1943]

I always enjoy talkSPORT when Martin is fuming 😂 people have a voice behind the scenes!!!!!😂😂😂😂 we got few arsenal supporters working behind the scenes.

[@TheKnowledge1]

It’s embarrassing how the other 2 clowns try team up against him both soft lad journos that know nothing I’ll slap em both in one slap

[@Joker-et2je]

1000% penalty You idiots can’t butthead in the penalty zone‼️🙄

[@saurabhahlawat425]

So all corners have to be uncontested from now on? Accidental head clashes should be straight forward penalties ? Woke nonsense.

[@Lifewithgoldbridge121]

Penalty all day every day.

[@redalfy9455]

Those two grown men don't know what happens when a player touches the ball first ?

[@Fractalchemystical]

You don't know the rules of the game, clearly.

[@No10NumberTen]

Because Simon sat here and said Konate’s tackle was a PK against Martinelli… he’s just like PGMOL interpretation of the rule that suits his bias… boringgg

[@Luke94Jenkins]

Cannot wait for Jim white to get gone, plays devils advocate too much and clearly tries to play everything against Keown to wind him up. Bloke is clueless, Keown is literally explaining the situation to him in laymen’s terms and somehow still doesn’t understand, used to listen every day but can’t stand him hosting anymore

[@killopillo-c9g]

Can't believe he was on skysports. Used to do the skysports news. But hey, skysports had andy gay and that equally weirdo Richard Keys. Both hated Arsenal but we're ready to defend manure and lick fergies scotch bottom at all costs! I think the skysports and PL go hand in hand, it's what elevated the league for greedy money profits. They've chosen to do the dirty on Arsenal as their poster team was manyoo for long time especially under fergies years.

[@JG-us9lu]

Never a penalty in a millions years. I. Not Arsenal fan this is just getting stupid it was two players going for a header. This making the game a joke.

[@samprizeman4509]

Same. I support United and i thought it was an accidental collision, plus he actually plays the ball first

[@blackwaterproduction289]

Not really Joao got the ball and wanted to go round Saliba then Saliba hit him 😅

[@shobudski6776]

@@blackwaterproduction289😂

[@samprizeman4509]

@@blackwaterproduction289 but saliba touched the ball before pedro 😅🥲

[@andrewwright4195]

No he didn't he missed then hit the striker ​@samprizeman4509

[@dyingbreedministry]

watch the replay and watch how Gabriel tugs his arm which causes him to lose balance moments before the head butt which is in fact contact in the area.... i think this is why the penalty is given.

[@khylelewis]

Pen or no pen, and I can totally understand why the pen was given, the game was 1--1 in the 61st minute. Arsenal had 29 minutes to win it and needed to keep pressure on Liverpool and they didn't do it. That's not what title winning sides do.

[@newtonemmanuel8791]

Like you're supposed to win every game, or be 100% in every game. Arsenal were battling injuries, sickness and clearly fatigue. As poor as arsenal was in that second half, if the ref does his job properly, the game ends 1-0. Brighton never looked like scoring for all their pressing in the second half

[@arranle]

Martin is 100% right on this one - both went for the ball; contact but not careless....... Never a penalty in a month-of-Sundays

[@garethwaugh1]

Fact . This is only given against Arsenal. The bias in the media and amongst officials is undeniable. The rudeness in not letting Martin Know make his point.... football in this country is corrupt

[@timphillips9954]

Arsenal sum up what is wrong with the prem a total wast of space.

[@GeorgesahrRobert-d7v]

Simon and Jim and Liverpool fans.

[@rogueone01]

Let's see how many penalties are given for the rest of the season for similar head challenges, shall we

[@nickybcn1]

Clear penalty, Arsenal always crying about refs. Try again next season lads.

[@snipergunner563]

Keep the same energy for when it’s given against your team

[@darrelcoleman961]

You're showing your intellectual deficiency bro. Shut it

[@Plausible386]

Do yourself a favour and watch another sport lol

[@CROSSNSHOOT]

Hopefully when your team gets shafted the same way and you have endless bad luck we will laugh in your face

[@gdogg4002]

Clear? Clear you’re a plonker

[@neildrew3027]

Jordan "im not a footballer i dont know the rules" also Jordan "im gonna tell a footballer theyre wrong" you couldnt write it

[@ezigwe]

Jim using the word "headbutt" is just Jim fishing for clickbait. These are same guys who complained about AFTV LOL

[@abiyworku2635]

So why didn’t MR Oliver give a yellow for the united striker yesterday? What’s the difference with Trossard ? If you say deliberate time wasting.

[@Sss-on2bv]

That rule isn't in use anymore 😂 iv only seen an arsenal player get sent off for that

[@patrikcarlsson8975]

Keown should just leave this show. You cant have an argumentation with Trumpists like these two.

[@tareka.4857]

​@@patrikcarlsson8975100% spot on

[@Jrocain25]

5:36 You can't apply the law to one team and then change the law to now suit other teams

[@Anthonyho2021]

I really like what Pedro acted. He looked so painful after the hit. He and Martinelli are so good at that.

[@Wazza555]

If Arsenal played well enough we wouldn't be discussing this penalty situation so thoroughly. We didn't perform and nor have we been of late. We can only blame ourselves.

[@seancampbell7884]

I don't think it's a pen, but it's classic Arsenal to focus on a ref decision rather then the fact they could've taken their chances and not had to worry about the pen.

[@Fractalchemystical]

Guaranteed if the shoe was on the other foot, and an opposing defender had accidentally headbutted Havertz in the box up the other end of the pitch, and Havertz went down clutching his face, and Arsenal were not given a penalty, Keown would be sat here crying about how it should've been a pen, along with most other Arsenal fans. And if they were to be awarded a penalty, Keown would not be sitting there complaining about it. Hypocrisy, pure and simple.

[@questioneverything751]

Anyone who has played will know that you always close your eyes right before you head the ball .

[@paddygladman5876]

Saliba goes for the ball but Pedro gets there first and Saliba comes in late and heads him not the ball. The ball takes a slight nick off the top of Saliba’s head following Pedro’s flick on and Pedro then can’t reach the flick on because he’s been knocked to ground by Saliba’s late challenge, therefore it’s a penalty.

[@reissamaan]

Let’s now watch all headers this weekend 😊

[@Onlyme.n.u]

Definitely it's not a penalty for me. It was an accidentally clashed of heads. Clearly both players were aiming at the ball. A real headbutt incident could go back when Zidane wiped out Materazzi with his head in the 2006 world cup final, by the way Materrazzi made a meal out of it. Zidane had no intention of hitting the ball with his head. That's a clear foul and it's a violent conduct. Do you expect the defender to raise his leg to such height in order to make defensive action instead of his head? You would say that's a too high tackle, wouldn't you? You need to apply the common sense to judge in this situation.

[@dps9975]

Funny how Arsenal got a free kick before for pen for a "clash of heads". Then they cheated by pushing Rutter back towards goal to play everyone onside when the free kick was taken.

[@fitzR27]

He’s gone for the ball? What happens if a defender, in his box, attempts to clear the ball, with his foot but the opposition player gets to the ball 1st and the defender, unaware of the other player closing in on him, then kicks the opposing player? It’s not a high foot or a dangerous play. Is it a foul in the box? Is it then a penalty? If a defender makes contact with an opponent inside the box is it a foul. Suck it up man. Yes, The officiating is poor because refs are no longer reffing the game but relying on technology to clean up their messes. I see players fall in their box, lose the ball to their opponent and then grab hold of the ball and no penalty is called. I see players making MMA challenges on opponents in their box and no penalty. It’s modern football. It’s in the game!!

[@SakebR2009]

Simon Jordan’s argument is nonsense. The biggest annoyance for Arsenal fans is the lack of consistency. Micheal Oliver not booking hojlund for kicking the ball away this week is evidence enough.

[@AlevelChemistrymadeeasy-q9j]

The Simon fella is ridiculous. How many delays in starting the restarting yellows have been given since the Trossard? Why are there so many harsh decisions go against particular teams only and never penalised again. What has gone against Liverpool, Man C, Man U this season?

[@antetubo1]

It’s the most disgraceful decision in the history of football. It was given mainly because Taylor has a personal issue against Arteta lately. It’s absolutely true that most of the points Arsenal dropped this season is planted by the disgraceful referees.

[@DavefromOttawa]

Thank goodness for Martin Keown, otherwise this is unwatchable drivel.

[@GB-fk7eq]

I've never seen a pen ike that b4. Usually because both players react and go down or show they're hurt as a result of accidental clash of heads. Saliba showed no ill effects at all, probably led to ref thinking it was aggressive headbutt on his part... but how Var did not see Saliba got ball and ask Anthony Taylor to have a look at it on monitor is typical of refereeing mediocrity in England. Var officials likely partied with Cootes the night before If Dermot Gallagher thought Saliba didn't get ball amd so simply nutted Pedro why didn't he also then send him off? Not even a booking? The refs and the PGMOL STINK and at this point I believe are corrupt. They can't be this incompetent... Anthony Taylor just wanted his moment and giving the pen was enough for him. No real attempt to properly apply rules as they should be. As for the VAR, nothing to say about fact Saliba got ball nor the fact that Taylor failed to book Saliba or send him off for violent conduct. But if they did that, they know Arsenal would surely appeal, the injustice of the decision would become clear and Webb would be giving his billionth apology

[@chrischarteris2264]

I don't think Taylor saw Saliba's touch of the ball. If he had it wouldn't have been given. This incident was a failure of VAR. They should have told Taylor there was a touch and asked if he wants a second look.

[@crackmiler9127]

It's idiotic to say Taylor is biased against Arsenal, he's completely incompetent but he let them get away with 30 full minutes of the most extreme time wasting I have ever seen, terrible decisions are made in almost every game, people are saying the De Ligt handball shouldn't have been given, he was making the air Jordan silhouette for no reason, the real incompetence is that the ref didn't award the penalty himself (I'm a Man U fan), Ait Nouri last night did a very similar thing and no penalty awarded, the ref's in this league are shocking and inconsistent and the var is useless when you put the same incompetence/inconsistent refs in charge of that.

[@adeyemiadeleye9823]

Football is a contact game and every defender has the right to defend his goal area and go for the ball. That’s exactly was Saliba did. The officials inconsistency is the issue. They penalized Arsenal for things and will never do the same to other teams.

[@dan7972-k9m]

You won’t see another penalty like that given in the next 5 years, nor will you see any player red carded for delaying a restart. The PGMOL apply their rules and justifications when they feel like it..

[@SakebR2009]

The comparison to the West Ham penalty is stupid. Gabriel was punched in the head because fabianski missed the ball. Saliba gets the ball. These two clowns are just gaslighting.

[@fricozoid1]

4:00 - 4:12 is now my favourite twelve seconds of radio.

[@sparkyred42]

Agree with Martin here, never a pen....but it's gold watching him get wound up all the time over Arsenals shortcomings.

[@seunsamuel7913]

The analysis from Jim and Simon here is ridiculous. Literally saying Saliba headbutted Pedro which makes no sense.

[@arnoldwandagoogutu4886]

Coming from an Arsenal fan, if we had enough juice at the front, we wouldn't be so desperate for decisions to go our way. If we were blowing teams away, these decisions wouldn't matter. We didn't do enough to beat Brighton. Besides, over the course of a season, these decisions even themselves out. If we don't win the league, it won't be because decisions went against us. It will be because we didn't do enough to win it.

[@truthhurts1006]

I disagree, wrong decisions may be the reason we don't win the league. If that penalty ain't given we win the game. You can't sat that's not the reason when you know that goals can change games.

[@diegomwesigwa278]

When this action happens again and no penalty is given. I am Jim and Simon to come and make a case as to why it should have been given.

[@kezmankezman758]

You have never seen in the history of football this type of incident being given as a penalty because it has never been deemed to be worthy of being given as a penalty. You will never see again this type of incident being worthy of a penalty because they will soon realise that for good reasons it was never seen as worthy of being a penalty 🚮

[@stevenbarlow7088]

Wow what an inbiased pov from Martin.i wonder how many times hes signed his signature on his pad today.

[@Alice-th9lu]

The VAR must be named and shamed for misleading the Ref about the substantial deflection off Saliba's head before he caught Pedro on the head.

[@jamesrandle4489]

Get rid of Martin keown every time he disagrees he so aggressive

[@ados2305]

Good on Martin, standing up for the truth and not just being sheep that follows everyone. CYG

[@RossG_]

He gets annoyed when Jim repeatedly asks the same question he’s already answered

[@antetubo1]

It’s unfortunate that the two so called best referees are the worst referees in many instances. There is always an intent in their decision when it comes to some clubs, particularly Arsenal. So many pundits were disgusted by this decisions except those who suffered by Arsenal’s brilliance.

[@petrovonoccymro9063]

Two players trying to head the ball and heads clash is NOT a headbutt. No pen. Just a clash we see all the time with no free kicks given.

[@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989]

Keown has such an anger problem 🤣

[@cadizking8161]

I am with Keown. I also believe England has the worst refs.

[@jmk1233]

If he got the ball and it wasn't excessive force, it shouldnt be a pen.

[@MrBrasserie]

But he didn't get there in time and smashed into Pedro. So either he's out of control or he's late. Both are fouls.

[@arsenal938]

FFS he didn’t smash into him haha, any little contact on the head now and players go down like there been shot. Find it disturbing no one’s questioning pedros antics

[@jmk1233]

@@MrBrasserie if he got the ball before the player, he clearly was on time. If both players get the ball before the contact it's a 50/50. Also it wasn't any more excessive than the usual heading motion.

[@MrBrasserie]

@jmk1233 but he didn't get to the ball before the player as the other player headed the ball onto him.

[@jmk1233]

@@MrBrasserie just because someone touched it, doesn't mean the contest is finished. How many times do players tackle a player immediately following a touch of the ball by the attacker, doesn't have an effect of whether it is deemed a late tackle or not - all about ball before player.

[@b69ker1]

Ball before player. No debate just facts. If a defender touches the ball in the slightest way possible with his toe VAR watch it over and over, if there is a toe on the ball. It's always in the defenders favour. Should be pens on most corners now then, when two players jump for the ball only one wins it, the other headbuts the player. That will be clash of heads. Yet this wasn't because it was slower and Saliba didn't throw himself on the floor

[@simong966]

They only seem to do the good cop bad cop routine when they have Martin Keown on ..they ask for his opinion based on his Premier League experience and as he starts to reply one or other interrupt and when he trys to answer that they fire another question. It's deliberate as they both smirk like a couple overgrown grammar school boys. It's obvious they show no respect for Arsenal or former players. They never do that with people like Danny Murphy , Troy Deeney etc.

[@smcomedy4897]

Yep! I used to listen to TS all the time. I barely have in the last 10 years or so because of these two snotty and ignorant sods. I prefer MOTD pundits! I don't know why Martin Keown bothers to go on anymore. They clearly don't like him, so what's the point! 👍👍⚽⚽

[@ados2305]

They've never touched the ball but think they know all the feelings of being a professional player. 😂😂😂

[@chiii2485]

@@simong966 I totally agree. Especially Simon Jordan, the “know it all”. He always has something against Arsenal and Arteta. Once an Arsenal topic comes on, he jumps at it with so much bias.

[@joehamill6743]

CORRECT

[@blackwaterproduction289]

MK is the absolute biggest fan I have ever seen, he has never been fair and clear when it came to Arsenal! Look at his argument, he is saying Saliba went for the ball! Well if he didn't then he should have seen red then! We know he went for the ball but he got the man instead

[@danielstrachan6544]

If it happens in the middle of the pitch then it's a drop ball or ball kicks back to team who had possession

[@theycallmebaus]

Both players go for the ball and both of them touch the ball before hitting each other. If that’s a foul, then it’s a foul on both saliba and Pedro because Pedro hit Saliba just as much as Saliba hit Pedro. So it shouldn’t be a penalty. Both have a right to get the ball and that’s definitely not a headbutt.

[@romeoscousin731]

Chelsea had a penalty not given against Palace, an obvious dive against Ipswich but not one person went on about it like arsenal fans do.

[@WaseemKhan-sp4yl]

Because you lost 2 nil so even if it wasn't given you'd have lost 1 nil

[@djfriskyd1857]

Leave it out. That was not a penalty

[@romeoscousin731]

@@WaseemKhan-sp4yl that’s not how football works

[@Animalistic9]

You talking about Mitchell's perfectly timed challenge in the box? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Either var or social media needs to go to stop these mentally challenged nutters from rambling!

[@Animalistic9]

Are you talking about Mitchell's perfectly timed challenge in the box? 😂😂 Either Var goes or social media does to stop these morons rambling.

[@harryrob8221]

It's always "the letter of the law" when it comes to Arsenal. But when it comes to other teams, then it is at the discretion of the Ref. Smh

[@mash83]

Martin saying it's two players going for the ball.. no.. it's not. It's one player heading the ball and one player going for it late.. after it's been headed and catching him. It's so ridiculous as expected from him.

[@caleb0388]

Martin is right. How many times have we seen an attacking player head an incoming ball and the defender tries to head the same ball but doesn't touch it and clashes with the attackers head? I've seen it a lot and I've NEVER seen a referee give a penalty for it. This time, Saliba even touched the ball. I feel like they are just trying to defend the referees. We'll see this happen again and then the penalty will be brought up

[@mash83]

Martin: he takes 10 seconds to make the decision. No martin, he took 3 seconds.. always exaggerating.

[@freelancedesignzja]

i would listen to the defender instead of two people who have never played the game.... my question is when there are head clashes at corners will there be penalties given, since a precedent has now been set..

[@paulfenton9896]

Watch the replays from all the angles. It's incredibly clear that the ball comes off Pedro's head first then Saliba head butts him. It may have been accidental but it doesn't matter, he still head butts him. Any where else on the pitch it's a free kick. Simple decision for the ref to give a pen.

[@izuchukwuikwuka134]

You need binoculars to see well

[@saurabhahlawat425]

Jim was so actively trying to shift goalposts there, I think he can have a fabulous career as a stadium designer.

[@johnnyd1790]

No, Arteta did have reason to complain about the Rice one, that was never a 2nd yellow. Because there were 200 time wasting incidents from that moment to the present, there were punished at most 5% of them and never with 2nd yellow except the Trossard one, another Arsenal player, Trossard did deserve it to be fair but Rice didn't, especially whole his opponent there coming straight out of a hack and slash game, hacking his feet away. That's just a bad joke.

[@kap7984]

Simon Jordan has a bewildered look on his face every time he is on a show with Keown and he's not the only one! 😂

[@jmw-qt2ih]

Even allowing for the infinite amounts of absolutely stupid penalties dished out nowadays this one has to be right up amongst the top contenders for the most ridiculously stupid ever given

[@Rossco1991]

Keown is unintentionally hilarious 😂 acts like a child if anyone disagrees with him lol.

[@lfcspectre4335]

Sir Lordship Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

[@shawnjoseph867]

Jim acting like a prick for spite😂😂😂😂

[@carpetco1923]

Jim says his been sober for many years I have my doubts…pray for him.

[@MrKeefy1967]

Jim's paid to provoke a discussion, even perhaps an argument. Controversy sells.

[@jasontripp3726]

Keown pretending not to know about the penalty Arsenal got at West Ham, surely as such an Arsenal person, you would know exactly what incident was meant when a penalty was given by the exact same ref because the keeper struck the Arsenal player whilst going for the ball. All I heard most of the time was yeah BUT, yeah BUT, yeah BUT, and that little "have other clubs suffered" as if it's all against Arsenal. All teams have things go for them and against them, so just get over it.

[@fady02]

I'm an Arsenal fan, I have no idea what incident this is referring to. If we are talking about an incident where a goalkeeper punches a player in the face without getting the ball, then obviously not the same incident we are talking about here today :)

[@C.TAtlas-b9p]

If it was your club you'd probably be saying what keown is saying too. Football fans are hilarious sometimes lol

[@mukamaogana8110]

That particular challenge made Gabriel miss two games with a concussion

[@m.noryaa2865]

Here is and alternate view. Salina was the last to touch the ball before before the clash of heads. In that sense, Pedro was the one who headbutt Saliba.

[@Fractalchemystical]

No, simpleton, because Pedro played the ball and Saliba played the man.

[@Rocky0Road]

Arteta has won "I dont complain trophy"