Noam Chomsky on The key problem of the palestine-israel conflict

Noam Chomsky on The key problem of the palestine-israel conflict
#NoamChomsky

[@thomaslapsley7867]

“I am frequently asked if I have visited Israel, whereas yet, it is simply assumed that I have. Well, I don’t travel. I really don’t, and if I did, I probably wouldn’t visit Israel. I remember how it was in 1948 when Israel was being established and all my Jewish friends were ecstatic, I was not. I said: what are we doing? We are establishing ourselves in a ghetto, in a small corner of a vast Muslim sea. The Muslims will never forget nor forgive, and Israel, as long as it exists, will be embattled. I was laughed at, but I was right. I can’t help but feel that the Jews didn’t really have the right to appropriate a territory only because 2000 years ago, people they consider their ancestors, were living there. History moves on and you can’t really turn it back." - Issac Asimov PhD Columbia Biochemistry (childhood, Orthodox Jewish tradition, a humanist and a rationalist, without strong religious influences)

[@anthonykennedy5324]

Thank you for your point of view.

[@philflip1963]

Asimov was indeed unusually intelligent.

[@peetsnort]

Israel is like Ukraine. A proxy aircraft carrier on land to get the slavic people and the Persian people.

[@kovie9162]

Putting aside his argument that any such country would be untenable given that it would be surrounded by vastly greater numbers of people who would never accept them as neighbors, which actually has some merit as history has unfortunately shown, although to date it's been able to survive and thrive despite the massive human costs incurred by its and other peoples, I don't see how legally purchased land was "appropriated", which implies ill-gotten if not outright stolen. Or did he mean that turning such otherwise lawfully acquired land into an actual country was illegitimate? And if so how, given that Israel was lawfully founded under the auspices of the lawful British Mandate and then UN, its borders up to 1967 recognized by the latter as lawful? Or is the argument more of a moral than legal one, and even then how, given that there has always been a Jewish presence in the area, albeit a small one in the centuries leading up to the first European Jewish settlers arriving, and that they arrived legally and settled on and developed legally purchased land? Thing is, although the emotional or whatever you want to call it claim to "Zion" was indeed based on biblical history, verified by historical research as substantially true even if the specific details are often wrong, the legal claim to it was entirely based on Ottoman, then British Mandatory and finally UN law, with the biblical claim playing no legal role, as being unnecessary and of course ridiculous.

[@renoirrandy7241]

​@@kovie9162 it only existed because of Western support. It wouldn't last a day without it.

[@zubesultana]

"(if) you have your boot on somebody's neck you have to find a way of justifying it it, (it) does something to you internally" - Noam Chomsky Chilling...

[@danielsacilotto3196]

The man is 94 years old, and he is absolutely lucid, eloquent, and his memory is impeccable. This is just amazing.

[@geraldlafleur5489]

Yes he is amazing. Except for his demonization of the unvaccinated. Fear took over logic.

[@tameimpala37]

That doesn't mean he is 'right' on this issue.

[@Rick-tf4dl]

Memory agreed is kind of impeccable however his perception being 94 years old is going to be skewed these are the facts, cognitive function is going to be impaired and all data entered is not always going to be trustworthy or reliable so if you want to hear and 94 year old ramble and be somewhat inflexible or intolerant go AHEAD IM OUT!

[@jasperchance3382]

@@geraldlafleur5489 that's one of the few things he got right. Dumbass antiscientific mob thinking they know better than hundreds of thousands of scientists and researchers.

[@samdg1234]

@@tameimpala37 You are right about that. I'd like to see him on with an opponent. I recently watched Coleman Hughes on his podcast with a Palestinian apologist. Coleman has recently done considerable research on the topic and pushed back the best he could against his guest. It seems to me that the entire question goes back to the establishment of Israel in 1948, if not before. If one accepts 1948 and the establishment of Israel as a nation, then Israel is in the right. They have a right for example to respond in a very significant way to the attack on Oct. 7th. To not respond, and significantly is to surrender their claim to safety and even it seems existence.

[@OutlawMaxV]

Professor Chomsky is 94 years old and his cognitive abilities are still far better than most people I've met irl and seen talk online

[@user-uq4it3zu5o]

Yep, better than yours it seems. 😂😂

[@redroverredrover5311]

my dad lived to 92 died from complications to falling down step,he talked faster but not a lenghty,spot ever on ..he caught on quicker,

[@redroverredrover5311]

he was always right when you thought,,,never play against the house

[@DarkPesco]

I have followed Noam Chomsky for decades. He has always amazed me with his reason and compassion and understanding of what true freedom and deep humanity actually is. Even more amazing... he's closing in on being 100 years old!

[@raynerstuelgalid]

I think he is trying to be as old as his elder brother, Gandalf.

[@thaminashah6327]

@DarkPesco…. he is a life well spent…that’s for sure, a national treasure.

[@rosanacruz5133]

Uma das mentes mais brilhantes da atualidade. Precioso!

[@kendallandrews8691]

Has he ever told his fans to get a colonoscopy after 50? It is pretty important and I've never heard him talk about it

[@EdenHar]

I think he is not very compassionate. But rather tells history from his point of political view. He calls Israelis nazies. I would like to understand in what way. I am familiar with people who can say terrible things and don’t understand the huge impact it has on human beings. For what he said, one can rise and kill another one, just because….This disturbance is called Asperger Syndrome. And this guy has it. And I didn’t see a suggestion from his side

[@Chowringhee]

Chomsky’s clarity at its best and most helpful. We are most grateful, and please share widely!

[@jamietheframe]

Since I Heard him Say that people who refuse an untested experimental injection should be left destitute I know that it is best to avoid anything he says and probably consider that the opposite is the truth.

[@lisasmith7066]

Agreed. Not only is Professor Chomsky a genius, every talking point he makes, especially about Israel is spot on.

[@BobQuigley]

A nation CANNOT be a theocracy and a democracy simultaneously.

[@Ariel-jq1if]

It’s not a theocracy lol, Jewish is an ethnicity in the same way China is the country of the Chinese

[@reazapple4009]

@@Ariel-jq1if China isn't a country of the "Chinese". There's numerous ethnicities in China and numerous countries besides China that are predominantly composed of people whose heritage is from China.

[@TheBaconWizard]

@@Ariel-jq1if It is also a theocracy as you know perfectly well. Try being less dishonest. Zionism is not a product of ethnicity.

[@SixDayWar67]

Yet you won't mention that 22 Arab states don't have democracys and are theocracys and they somehow don't have any Jews left (850,000 refugees after 1948) but yet Israel has 20% Arabs and non -Jews.

[@ericpmoss]

I think “theocracy” is the wrong word for Israel, because the civilian leadership is separate from the religious leadership. However, it is clearly a democracy where some people are more equal than others. The ultra orthodox don’t have to serve in the IDF. They get subsidies to have big families and take land from Palestinians in the West Bank. The whole notion that Israel is Jewish rather than secular with equality for all is obvious - advocating the opposite would be laughed out of the Knesset, if not chased out at gunpoint.

[@brad1368]

It's truly amazing how much Chomsky has read, synthesized, and is able to recall. He seems to be a human encyclopedia.

[@xstensl8823]

and Trump can't remember who he ran aganist

[@lordemed1]

Intelligence is not wisdom

[@humushumus2219]

​@@xstensl8823 And Biden doesn't know where he is.

[@reefk8876]

@@lordemed1he has foresight into our demise. That’s a form of wisdom no?

[@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj]

Noam is a mountain of knowledge but he's on the verge of death unfortunately 😢

[@Sina_TM]

Seeing Noam Chomsky transform into Gandalf over the years has got to be one of the best things I have observed on this planet. Love both.

[@coderamen666]

Chomsky looks like an old rabbi lmao

[@StatisticsGuru]

I have had the honor of meeting with Professor Chomsky three times and having lunch meetings. He really is a very kind man and a living encyclopedia. He asked me many questions. It seems that he has a never ending thirst for knowledge and facts.

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

oh, please. he's a relic who doesn't know what a VPN is.

[@user-rk4nx1dx1l]

Maybe not, but he knows everything else. And he is not a relic, just old, but perfectly lucid, with an incredible memory and understanding of world affairs. How you can be so dismissive of the man just shows your own utter ignorance. @@boblozaintherealworld3577

[@lawsonj39]

Your time will come--if you're lucky. But while you'll be forgotten, Chomsky's wisdom will live on. @@boblozaintherealworld3577

[@Pandemonis]

Luckt bastard, I'd give a year of my life to have a chat with him !

[@captainmajed2078]

@@boblozaintherealworld3577 why VPN?

[@suzannetevlin8439]

When ever I listen to Prof Chomsky's reasoned, rational, thoughtful, concise explanations, a tension that lives in my chest releases, and I can breathe more easily for a little while.

[@bajamcguide]

The universe has sent us just a few amazing gifts. Noam is one of them, and I consider myself lucky to be here at the same time as this incredible human.

[@berniefynn6623]

The list of travellers and pilgrims throughout the XVI to the XIX centuries c.e. that give a similar description of the Holy Land is quite longer, including Alphonse de Lamartine, Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith, Siebald Rieter, priest Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik, Arnold Van Harff, Johann Tucker, Felix Fabri, Edward Robinson and others. All of them found the land almost empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Shechem, Hevron, Haifa, Safed, Irsuf, Cæsarea, Gaza, Ramleh, Acre, Sidon, Tzur, El Arish, and some towns in Galilee: Ein Zeitim, Pekiin, Biria, Kfar Alma, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana and Kfar Yassif. Even Napoleon I Bonaparte, having seen the need that the Holy Land would be populated, had in mind to enable a mass return of Jews from Europe to settle in the country that he recognized as theirs' - evidently, he did not see any "Palestinian" claiming historical rights over the Holy Land, whose few inhabitants were mainly Jews. Besides them, many Arab sources confirm the fact that the Holy Land was still Jewish by population and culture in spite of the Diaspora: ·In 985 c.e. the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshippers..." . ·Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, in 1377 c.e. wrote: "Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement". After 300 years of Arab rule in the Holy Land, Ibn Khaldun attested that Jewish culture and traditions were still dominant. By that time there was still no evidence of "Palestinian" roots or culture . ·The historian James Parker wrote: "During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740 c.e.], the caliph and governors of Syria and the [Holy] Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons". Even though the Arabs ruled the Land from 640 c.e. to 1099 c.e., they never became the majority of the population. Most of the inhabitants were Christians (Assyrian and Armenian) and Jews.

[@robertpatterson3321]

@@berniefynn6623 Oh, Bullshit!

[@simonalexanderwood]

Can provide the source please?

[@ultravioletsus]

​​@@berniefynn66231. Sources, just calling the names of historical people does not prove anything. It's as good as "trust me bro" as a source. 2. Was Napoleon even able to go further from Egypt ? As far as I know he was defeated by the Jazzar Ahmed Pasha of Ottoman Empire and had to retreat from Egypt. 3. How do you explain in 1947, after 50 years of Jewish immigration supported by rich Jewish families and the British economic and diplomatic support, with the funding of Jews, overtaxation of Palestinian arabs to seize land and houses to give them to Jews. Even though all these factors there were 600k Jews in Palestine in 1947 and 1.4 million Arabs ? How come if Jewish were the only inhabitants of there, they were an even smaller population than the Christians in Palestine ? Your logic has too many plotholes that need to be explained.

[@berniefynn6623]

@@ultravioletsus Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against: “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”. “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”. This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

[@skaracaesar4789]

Israel was given an inch, but took miles and counting.

[@tomsperduti2967]

Indeed

[@jasperchance3382]

they accepted the initial partition. not their fault if the palestinians and arabs refused and waged a war that they lost.

[@kovie9162]

You reveal so much of your views on the matter by implying that it was only entitled to an inch, although in reality they were offered a bit more than an inch, and took it, but were attacked anyway, by countries unwilling to give them even that one "inch" (and of course used the opportunity to nearly double what they were offered initially). Plus, your very reasoning also implies that by being given this "inch", their right to be there was, however grudgingly, validated and approved, or else why would they have been given even so much as a millimeter? So you have a point (or two), just not the one(s) I think you thought you were making.

[@Jominycrocket0]

Israel turned into Nazis

[@rocioguillen2995]

And none of it will make them any safer. The exact opposite.

[@lisasmith7066]

Thank you for your amazing knowledge, ability to provide clarity and honesty Professor Chomsky.

[@AntoineMalveaux]

Noam is up there with some of the most intelligent people I've had the pleasure of hearing speak, ❤ him. True definition of a gentleman and a scholar.

[@berniefynn6623]

"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The plows used were of wood... The yields were very poor... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high... The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert... The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants". - The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913 - The list of travellers and pilgrims throughout the XVI to the XIX centuries c.e. that give a similar description of the Holy Land is quite longer, including Alphonse de Lamartine, Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith, Siebald Rieter, priest Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik, Arnold Van Harff, Johann Tucker, Felix Fabri, Edward Robinson and others. All of them found the land almost empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Shechem, Hevron, Haifa, Safed, Irsuf, Cæsarea, Gaza, Ramleh, Acre, Sidon, Tzur, El Arish, and some towns in Galilee: Ein Zeitim, Pekiin, Biria, Kfar Alma, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana and Kfar Yassif. Even Napoleon I Bonaparte, having seen the need that the Holy Land would be populated, had in mind to enable a mass return of Jews from Europe to settle in the country that he recognized as theirs' - evidently, he did not see any "Palestinian" claiming historical rights over the Holy Land, whose few inhabitants were mainly Jews. Besides them, many Arab sources confirm the fact that the Holy Land was still Jewish by population and culture in spite of the Diaspora: ·In 985 c.e. the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshippers..." . ·Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, in 1377 c.e. wrote: "Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement". After 300 years of Arab rule in the Holy Land, Ibn Khaldun attested that Jewish culture and traditions were still dominant. By that time there was still no evidence of "Palestinian" roots or culture . ·The historian James Parker wrote: "During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740 c.e.], the caliph and governors of Syria and the [Holy] Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons".

[@jamietheframe]

Unless, of course, you don't want to take an experimental injection, in which case he wants you to be "left destitute and ostracised from society" sounds pretty dumb and unprincipled to me!

[@Abe18874]

You're no Noam..... Harldy.@@berniefynn6623

[@vincentscala6011]

Never die Professor Chomsky. I mean never! You are an incredible gift to the planet.

[@skyblazeeterno]

I doubt he will last another couple of years

[@musashimiyamoto586]

@@skyblazeeterno You a doctor?

[@marcoalessandro2034]

please do go rest in peace...soon

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Brace yourself

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creep. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@piotrmazurek9305]

As always, incomparable depth and wealth of knowledge from Noam Chomsky. Thank you so much and best wishes. ❤

[@pablolara797]

Yes, best whishes to Noam Chomsky ❤️

[@AndrewMalone_]

Well said brother. Free Palestine ❤

[@jasperchance3382]

as always, not hitting the point

[@mspenelope6874]

He’s a known member of Epstein’s pedophile network. His criminality should bother you.

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

@@jasperchance3382 just asking. what point?

[@Tom_Quixote]

Imagine how the world would be if everybody had a grandfather like Chomsky.

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creep. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@gymnosophy]

He'd be the first person against such a fantasy

[@jeffforsythe9514]

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Just remember one thing, the real evil on this planet is the Chinese Communist Party.

[@jamietheframe]

Everyone would have an intolerant unprincipled grandfather who thinks that their grandchild should be left destitute for affirming his médical sovereignty

[@garetcrossman6626]

@@jamietheframe Absolutely.💯

[@azulgaia7782]

I always cry when I hear Noam Chomsky explaining clearly complicated subjects. I’m truly terrified of no longer being able to hear his current interpretations. He has spoken to my soul all my life.

[@davegeorge4757]

I've never heard such a clear and concise answer to such a rambling and terribly composed question.

[@mikegardens]

The main stream news would never put him on to explain. That was the most understandable and straight forward explanation of the situation we find ourselves in.

[@ghostviggen]

That doesn’t make it true.

[@marklee1960]

No, it's not. His "explanation" is full of missing information and if you bothered to read you would know that.

[@afterhourscinema782]

Noam has entered the *"sage wizard"* stage of his life

[@maxheadroom5532]

Here a quick summary, hopefully correct enough: Historical Context: The conflict's roots were recognized about 120 years ago by Jewish intellectuals who acknowledged the presence of an indigenous population in Palestine. Early proposals like cultural Zionism suggested a non-invasive approach to establishing a Jewish cultural presence in Palestine. Post-1967 Shift: The 1967 war marked a significant shift in U.S.-Israel relations, with the U.S. providing substantial support post-war. Israel's victory in 1967 was seen as aligning with U.S. interests by undermining secular Arab nationalism. U.S. Support and Expansionism: After 1967, Israel began systematically expanding into occupied territories, with continuous U.S. support. Israel's expansionist policies prioritized land acquisition over peace and security. International Relations: The U.S. vetoed UN Security Council resolutions that called for a two-state solution along the internationally recognized borders. Israel's reliance on U.S. support has allowed it to continue its policies despite international objection. Internal Israeli Dynamics: The occupation has led to a harsher, more brutal internal environment within Israel. Israeli society has shifted to the right, with younger generations being more reactionary and nationalist. Comparative Analysis: Chomsky compares Israel's religious-nationalist majority with similar trends in other countries, like Turkey and Iran, where there is support for authoritarian religious governance. Core Issue: Despite changing issues over time, the fundamental problem remains the clash between expansionist policies and the rights of the indigenous population.

[@maniravsadhur8409]

Correct? How could this be correct when you only mention Israel's actions? Doesn't it sound weird to you to mention Palestine and not once mention the actions of Palestinians?

[@RtB68]

Being shot and imprisoned and dispossessed you mean?

[@markanthony3275]

You left out the crucial fact that after WW2 , Britain was prepared to follow through with a two state solution...but guess what happened to destroy that possibility? One day after Israel formally became a nation it was attacked by six muslim nations. So the muslims are the ones who blew the chance for a Palestinian state, and they did so because they didn't want a two state solution in the first place...they only wanted a Palestinian state and Israel gone.

[@sharononeill6477]

You Sir, Mr. Chomsky, are a jewel. Thank you for imparting your considerable knowledge and wisdom. Blessings.

[@hulaharvest1]

Even Bernie Sanders who is considered progressive has just now said " a humanitarian pause"... not even cease fire. A pause. Like a pause to take a sip of water. Gross. No mainstream media ( msnbc) benched Muslim correspondents

[@maarten7]

Joy Reid (7pm ET) does the best job with the issue on MSNBC. Morning Joe (especially Joe Scarborough) is the worst. 🟠

[@VampguyN85]

Big part of the problem for Democrat's, is they know Aipac has strong enough lobnying power to cost them their re-election in the next campaign. We need to end lobbying as a starting point in the US. Like Fetterman in PA knew he would have lost in 2020 if he didn't blindly support Israel.

[@Jominycrocket0]

The Israelis own our government such a minority gets AIPAC? What an obvious own!😂

[@sarahpengelly8439]

​@@maarten7 I really don't understand why someone like Joe is so resistant to the facts. Most else he gets absolutely right. What is it about the US? Why has Israel got away with so much??? Why do Americans not see the reality?

[@calicocat8213]

​@@maarten7Joe's wife and co-host, Mika Brzezinski, is the daughter of the Paranoid Pole, Zbigniew Brzezinski ("The Grand Chessboard", 1997), and sister to the current U.S. Ambassador to Poland, Mark Brzezinski.

[@golnazabaee599]

We are so lucky for this man to be alive. May he live forever!

[@merbst]

Him & Norman Finkelstein! (His co-scholar on this matter)

[@amiboz3222]

آمین!

[@FreeWill-library]

For more analyses and opinions of elite thinkers, make sure to follow our channel and activate the notification bell to receive all the latest

[@adityap9223]

I hope not

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews@@FreeWill-library

[@nikkikelley5621]

You've meant so much to my thinking since I was a teenager 35 years ago. Thank you for still being here and trying to help in this shitshow.

[@chad9017]

I always knew the narrative was flawed. Once I met someone who impressed me as someone knowledgeable. Recommended Chomsky to me. I can proudly say I haven't thought the same about politics since . The Conquest Continues" such a perfect beginning to my education. Logical extension of the Clash in a way, but everyone has their music.

[@MikeInHalifax]

Same here. I was in High School when I first saw and then read Manufacturing Consent. I've read many of his books. I love this man.

[@timberdoodle6924]

I've read much of chomsky's published works . He is enlightening however overall he is allowed to speak the truth only when convenient - he is a gatekeeper. Know how I know - " put all the unvaccinated in a concentration camp " Why would Noam say that?

[@deviselina2332]

Admire his ability to recall things and courage to speak the truth. Israel and the USA never listened to sane voices.

[@jimreilly6933]

Israel and America are racist regimes with one focussed on maintaining an ethnically/religious pure nation, and the other on maintaining a military foothold in the middle east.

[@CorePathway]

@@jimreilly6933The US does multi-culturalism better than any other large (population 50 million plus) nation. China is racist AF, France has major issues, etc. Even small nations like Sweden has huge problems assimilating it’s new, non-Nordic immigrants. It’s a very human thing: if you go into a crowded cafeteria with seats open at only two tables: one filled with people of your race and another filled with people from another race, we both know where you will set your lunch tray 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@raakareiska9804]

Chomsky is a typical leftist: sympathizing everyone who fight against "evil west". Same guy has no problem white washing war crimes of serbs and being a total simp for russians

[@SixDayWar67]

@@jimreilly6933 Your professor really had good Kool-Aid in class

[@kazitude1]

Go live in Gaza, Iran, or any other Islamic Muslim country and let me know how it is

[@bradynorris1653]

Who can even begin to fill Noam’s shoes when he dies?

[@marklee1960]

People who present all the facts? Hopefully. Because Chomsky clearly doesn't.

[@The8224sm]

I don't think you will find the phrase Judeo-Nazis in the Western media.

[@gmw3083]

Zionotzees is better, but you won't find that either...

[@wahidpawana424]

Ironically, the very country that the knut-zees originated from are their allies.

[@jasperchance3382]

it's an insult

[@Sayitaint_So]

trudat but the word Ashke-nazi has been used for many centuries and as i get it i was this group who went against the beliefs of the minority Jewish population in the late 1800's when the Zionist movement formed ( as socialist labor parties sometimes ) and went against the Orthodox belief that the Nation of Israel was not going to come to pass until the ( second ) coming of the Messiah... go figure !!! Did they buy a reality that we are now witnessing ? ...as i get it !!!

[@Kammreiter]

Unverschämter Weise, ganz gegen unsere ganze Rechtsordnung hat Frau Merkel 2007 die deutsche 🇩🇪Staatsräson🇩🇪 an den rassistischen nahöstlichen Schikanestaat gebunden. Selbstverständlich ohne jede Einschränkung. Gemäß dem „Meine Ehre heißt Treue“ (Wahlspruch der SS) 😮 So blöde sind die deutschen Politiker 😄😂🤣

[@bozidarsicel3884]

One of the grearest gifts to humanity through entire history of mankind, Prof. Chomsky.

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Your English is very good. For a Moscow troll.

[@bozidarsicel3884]

@@busterbiloxi3833 I have nothing to do with Moscow except great admiration for Russian art and culture. Having said that, I have to admit that English is my second language as are Italian, French, German, Slovenian, Macedonian with very solid knowledge of Latin language.

[@drziggyabdelmalak1439]

Thank you, Dr Noam Chomsky - an excellent, calm, informed, intelligent, sensitive analysis of this situation. We are indeed lucky to have you.

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@miken2604]

is he a communist

[@j0nnyism]

I worked at a kibbutz when I was 18. My first experience travelling on my own. I met so many wonderful people I fear for their future with this terrible war. So much divisiveness. I totally blame all the politicians there. They’re all driven by hate and they clearly don’t care for the lives of the people of Israel no matter their religion. Very saddening. Politicians create enemies to distract from their own incompetence. The Abrahamic religions should not be fighting. We follow the teachings of the prophets we pray to the same god we have many more similarities than differences

[@mosan9615]

You are right. Abrahamic religions can live together. The best example is Emirates and Saudies. Israel also has peace with Egypt and Jordan. The only problem is Palestinians. Sorry to said...

[@rogerterry5013]

@@mosan9615yes the problem is the inhabitants.

[@michelangeloconrad]

I also worked on kibbutzim back before the wall. There were a lot of suicide Mohammadism bombers back then before the wall. Something to consider- Jesus had a totally different character than Mohammad. Mohammad was a violent murderer. Jesus was a healer and taught loving kindness. They didn’t worship the same god.

[@hazzard5011]

⁠@@michelangeloconradyou sound very foolish here! Just think about what you said. Did you know that some religious scholars believe that Jesus killed a man on the Silk Road? We know that he violently threw the “money changers” out of the temple and overturned their tables, violently. He died violently at the hands of Romans during their crucifixion rituals! He was not a nonviolent man….. stop the condemnation of your brothers belief, you are not the arbiter of Abrahamic hagiography. Christians are some of the most violent people on earth. Both The Crusades and Jihads were violent. Amerikkkan slavery was a Christian enterprise. Christian enslavers used the worst types of violence to force populations into enslavement. You have no idea how brutal white people have been in the name of Christianity. Christians have been far far more violent in the New World than any Muslims. You sound like a poorly informed religious propagandist and reductionist zealot.

[@somebody701]

@@michelangeloconradLiar

[@marygarrapa3537]

Thank you professor Chomsky, as always, words to cherish.

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Just remember one thing, the real evil on this planet is the Chinese Communist Party.

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Moscow troll.

[@moyrasalander2265]

Noam Chomsky: a light in the darkness. May it shine forever.

[@jasonsquire8298]

Outstanding analysis and one that only comes from being around for a while. I particularly liked how religious nationalism is identified as an insidious cause, which is clearly present in many other conflict saturated nations.

[@bernadettekelly6236]

Thank you Dear Naom... some day it will get better for all of Humanity❤

[@petrus3370]

Spot on Mr. Chomsky. Very very accurate. My sincere thanks and compliments. 👍

[@gregorylumpkin2128]

If humans really are the most intelligent species on Earth, then this planet is well and truly screwed. The key problem is what it always is, hate, anger, and violence.

[@philflip1963]

Selfish Egoistic Greed and Racism, Existence, (as egos isolated in separate bodies) preceeds, (compels) Essence, (the psychology of pre-eminent self interest).

[@khaderlander2429]

Life is a test not utopia. Fear, hunger and lost of life

[@noblshtplz]

"We are a ferocious animal. We humans are terrible animals. Our history is a history of wars. It's an endless story, a tale of madness." Photographer- Sebastiao Salgado

[@Wanda_Jannette]

Sadly. May the people witness this wrong doing and live to tell the new generation the real truth of history.

[@bearlh40]

and cynicism

[@blankslate6393]

Chomsky has bas been an altar of human consience and rationality as far as I can remember. A relentless critique of imperialism and state creulty, particulary by the US and Israel since Vietnam var. He is my intellectual hero. Just legendary.

[@jamietheframe]

"the people who refuse the vaccine should be left destitute and excluded from society" a moral giant, sure!

[@saudhassan1994]

Not just I studied his linguistics coursebooks, I also frequently listen to his views on major issues of the world. He never ceases to inspire me with his intellect and logical reasoning. He will be recognised as one of the greatest scholars in history.

[@LauraAmanda8888]

Noam Chomsky is truly amazing ❤️

[@stifft50]

No he's not, he betrayed his own people for fake love of the "world ", he's worse then the kapo

[@maarten7]

@@stifft50 Who are "his people"?

[@ledpup]

​@maarten7 I guess they're suggesting his people are Zionist Jews. I think Chomsky would respond, "I am no Zionist."

[@dorothyleeuw8774]

@@stifft50Smart man to not line up with Imperialism.

[@BasementEngineer]

@@stifft50 Yes we know, the truth is anti-antisemitism!

[@lovetownsend]

This dude is proof that if you don't just rot as an old person, you'll be fine.

[@celesteconnor5677]

Thank you for bringing us the informed view of one of the world's most intelligent and progressive thinkers.

[@progyandas9650]

Brilliant as usual .....his book with On Palestine co authored with Ilan Pappe , a must read .

[@jasperchance3382]

not really, it's very biased

[@maarten7]

Absolutely.

[@MohamedAHiggi]

The name please of the book

[@lordemed1]

A must read for whom? Why? Jew haters? Naive fools?

[@rodriguezdiazlaura]

Historians

[@georgemartin1498]

Thank you for this! Nice to see and hear this wise man calmly, lucidly and succinctly describe the situation. My thoughts about this have been centered around the question: let’s invent (there is no other word) an entirely new state, largely ignoring the people who have been living there for generations and accepting the fact that this new regime will be dominated by religious types who will use their magical powers to thusly do what they want, what could go wrong?

[@od120162]

Have you ever read history books, or is your knowledge is based on speculations at best? I'm Israeli and my roots here go back to the middle of the 19th century, right in Jerusalem, even before Zionism. In those days Jerusalem had more Jews than Moslems. And of coarse, I'm not starting to lecture here about the huge History of the area. Entirely new state, made up, you say? Interesting what a certain man, Jewish, who lived here 2000 years ago, would say about your claims. You may very well know him - he was called Jesus.

[@captainmajed2078]

@@od120162 What's your point though? Jerusalem saw a rapid rise in Jewish population increase at the very end of the 19th century due to eastern European immigration, so yes in Jerusalem(not as drawn up as current Jerusalem of course)where they initially immigrated too, led to a Jewish majority at that specif point(not the rest of the 19th century). All in all though the Jewish population of the whole Palestine territory fluctuated between 3-8% according to Italian-Israeli demographer Bachi(Ottoman sources would be at the lower end). If your argument is that Jews and Arabs both have rightful claim and historical presence in that land, then yes of course and they both should live there without a doubt. This doesn't negate anything Noam said in this clip, and if you disagree please feel free to enlighten us.

[@inevolution1]

Brilliant..!

[@lmahiroo]

Thank you Dr, i wish you had a podcast to educate us more about history/other conflicts/civilization...reading your books is a good start but listening to you explaining things is unparalleled...Thanks again 🙏

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creep. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@marklee1960]

Educate yourself. If you depend on this man, you aren't getting all the facts. Believe me.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Just remember one thing, the real evil on this planet is the Chinese Communist Party.

[@lmahiroo]

Thanks for the advice @@marklee1960 credentials/bio please?

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks so much for posting.

[@philcarter2362]

The Zen people say that if you hate your enemy you become like him.

[@alankuntz6494]

where do zen people say that? I'm zen and I say that is caca,

[@terefefeyssa877]

@philcarter2: Identify your source right here, please ? Don't abuse Zen if you are cooking it

[@kovie9162]

@@alankuntz6494 The quality of western fortune cookies is rapidly declining...

[@amber40494]

It just means that you're not any better if you hate just like your enemy hates. Hate does not end hate.

[@calicocat8213]

​@@alankuntz6494本当に禅宗? Here: "Defeating an enemy through hurtful, damaging ways usually gives place to a very temporary and relative triumph. Deep down, we're feeding our enemy as well as the most negative part of ourselves. We may get immediate satisfaction but, at the same time, we'll have strengthened every destructive emotion that's inside us". 御礼は結構。Go practice your 座禅。

[@elliotray8477]

Please provide the context of this interview: Who is giving the interview? What is the date? What is the source of this recording? Thank you

[@Hecatesroom]

I don’t believe this is recent.

[@davidlai399]

“You put your boot on somebody’s neck, you’d have to find a way of justifying it, and it does something to you internally.” 😢

[@SN-sz7kw]

The story of human conquest though. Every nation creates its own mythology & justification. The question is why Israel is held to a different standard.

[@davidlai399]

@@SN-sz7kw because the world expects more empathy and compassion from a people who has suffered so much only recently

[@balbeerbahi5719]

This great man helped me understand my mother, which was considered impossible. He can help us all understand the Palestine issues, which many also consider impossible.

[@angc1456]

please share. how did he helped you :)?

[@balbeerbahi5719]

@@angc1456 Hi, it's kinda complicated but in his wonderful book, New Horizons in the Study of Language and Mind, he suggests Language is an inherent survival mechanism as much as other senses, such as smell, taste, sight, and is naturally preprogrammed to spot what's wrong. i.e. My mother (and millions x millions more like her) whose disposition is to always pick out faults. That's because that is easy and 'natural' to do. What's far more difficult is to be constructive ;-0) p.s. If you want to see that in action, check out the comments section in your local right-wing newspaper - for us here it's the Daily Mail - and check out how the most voted for comments are usually highly negative/critical. I cannot recommend Chomsky's books enough!!

[@angc1456]

@@balbeerbahi5719 thanks for the reply :) I would check out Chomskys books :)

[@balbeerbahi5719]

@@angc1456 Thank you! They can be hard going, but Chomsky really is one of America's leading public intellectuals, if not the foremost. The first book I read was 'Manufacturing Consent', (1988?) which he co-wrote with Edward Herman, and really encapsulates how the media really is happy to keep debate within the Left/Right parameters, so anything outside of that is considered madness. I think Manufacturing Consent is also a reply to the book Propagand by Edward Bernays, 1928: on how to manipulate the American Mind through P.R. Fascinating stuff! Happy reading. ;-0) [Sadly, I think, we have to someone wade through all this heavy nonsense just to understand why we can't live a happy, free life full of love and peace, which is what I think Chomsky does for us ;-0)]

[@CarlosSanchez-dv1ew]

If only we had leaders of this earth like him ...unfortunately the powers that be would not allow a thinker...with compassion

[@tameimpala37]

He is not a leader but a respected intellectual.

[@CarlosSanchez-dv1ew]

@@tameimpala37 thats negative ...i was implying his intelligence and compassion ...

[@ronald3836]

Chomsky is just preocuupied with self-hatred which translates into hatred of the USA. Ask him about any problem in the world and he will explain to you that the USA is to blame. In his mind, people outside the US are not real people who bear responsbilitiy for their actions.

[@pauldoran1864]

What an incredible man! Amazing mind and communicator

[@donstoddard8458]

Wow that was really good. Thank you

[@Pmor75]

Quando é foi gravada esta conversa?/ When was this podcast was recorded?

[@SlipMahoneyBowery]

On my personal journey for truth and understanding I always include Noam’s perspective on issues that perplex me. Whether I agree or not on a particular point I am compelled to listen to his positions as he has always given me food for thought.

[@user-uq4it3zu5o]

I wonder if you include any other prospective in your personal quest for truth? Goebbels’ perhaps?

[@jneto6375]

Fascinating the Amounts of knowledges he got..,and the way he deliveries..he is a Treasure+Heritage to human kinds...I always am delightful with his interviews..Amazing!! wishes him much health and longitude...

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creep. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

I'm sorry to see that so many "smart" people agree with your opinion of this 'venerable' person. Yes, he deserves respect for his past works and for simply living this long. Whatever. Chomsky was a non-stop writer and mental activist from the 60's era, a 'liberal' intellectual, a media personality in the literary world. OF COURSE it's amazing that he can speak in whole sentences. However, there is absolutely nothing he says here that isn't already known, or that hasn't been said or written in the last 50-60 years. Still to this day Chomsky is a MASTER at marketing himself. I'll give him props for that. The last two generations of us have no real grasp of History. Apparently. Even the reformed heroin addict Russel Brand has been sucked into Noam's gravity of "truth". (that's where the word 'sucker' comes from, btw) I challenge YOU and all these Chomsky sycophants to break open some history books and/or go deep into the internet to discover all the stuff that has been known for hundreds of years. Curiosity = Knowledge. Deal with it.

[@busterbiloxi3833]

Moscow troll.

[@TheGreyGonzo]

When was this recorded please? Having the interview date on your videos would really help when Chomsky references papers etc. (And thank you for your channel!)

[@johnmccabe6867]

Hi, thank you for posting this! Can you please include the date of the interview so we know the context like is it before or after October 7, thanks.

[@sgu00dir]

Play Chomsky on 1.5 speed and he sounds amazing. Yes he is old, but its only really his tempo that has dropped - his articulation is actually as eloquant as it was 50 years ago. Quite incredible

[@Gmoore54]

Professor Noam Chomsky🙏 this is the same as 5 months ago

[@topminifigures]

Hi, What's the original source of this interview? Thanks

[@EM-lz9kg]

Noam gives such insight he’s been so consistent with knowledge

[@banzobeans]

08:37 "In the early 1970s Israel had a choice. It had a choice between expansion and security. And it chose expansion with the help of the United States."

[@akp167]

Yeah can’t see why a country which won a massive war, in which they defeated several adversaries at once, would not feel comfortable with the idea of just giving up its territorial acquisitions.

[@marklee1960]

The expansion was about the security. Clearly you've never been there, haven't really researched the facts and so have no idea what you're talking about.

[@kiwitrainguy]

A perfect description of why Russia invaded Ukraine.@@akp167

[@monbel268]

Thank you Dr. Chomsky for all you do to educate the world.

[@jimreplicant]

Gross he met with epstein more than once

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@tsalagianisahoni6716]

Sit down, this discussion is for adults. @@jimreplicant

[@18890426]

@@jimreplicant really? Any evidence?

[@jimreplicant]

@@tsalagianisahoni6716 I found it so amusing that when confronted with an uncomfortable truth most people resort to insults and name calling🤣 You sir are a child of the highest order hope you learn all you can from this idiot pedophile

[@onemilktwostrawslabs2078]

So irritating how 99% of the comments are about how amazing Chomsky is and not about the actual topic..

[@user-uq4it3zu5o]

And the funniest thing is that there is nothing amazing about Chomsky, certainly not about his unhinged politics. They think he’s amazing because they like what he’s got to say. They probably think that Hamas, Isis and Al qaeda are also amazing.

[@krystianbelliere]

Thank you Noam Chomsky for being the true sage of our age. Your insight is astounding.

[@JOSEMARTINEZ-yc9qd]

What a man you are Noam, greatest thinker of our age ❤

[@lawrencenoctor2703]

While politicians rabbit out lies poorly disguised, we have a man who has spoken the reasoned truth all his life. We owe so much to him, hes been a moral compass for all right minded people.❤

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Just remember one thing, the real evil on this planet is the Chinese Communist Party.

[@thisperfectworld]

When was this interview conducted?

[@chad9017]

Imagine what a better society we could have if the facts of history were told in high school. With perspective.

[@ZenBen_the_Elder]

Chomsky's swan song is a a series of cogent, well-edited video essays that set an authoritative historical and ideological foundation for a new generation for whom he has been transformed into an Obiwan-Kenobi sage icon. Noam Chomsky will be more impactful on the current generation's historical memory than all the MSM claptrap.

[@jasperchance3382]

not in a good way, since he is very biased and partial.

[@markker2727]

vs death star of david

[@msp420]

thank you Noam

[@xyttra]

Where can I find the whole interview?

[@senscommun1792]

Thank you❤. NChomsky is outstanding.

[@tdayesso5272]

There is good reason to have hope in the world THANKS to such larger than life, great people like Noam Chomsky.

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@berniefynn6623]

"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The plows used were of wood... The yields were very poor... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high... The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert... The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants". - The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913 - The list of travellers and pilgrims throughout the XVI to the XIX centuries c.e. that give a similar description of the Holy Land is quite longer, including Alphonse de Lamartine, Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith, Siebald Rieter, priest Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik, Arnold Van Harff, Johann Tucker, Felix Fabri, Edward Robinson and others. All of them found the land almost empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Shechem, Hevron, Haifa, Safed, Irsuf, Cæsarea, Gaza, Ramleh, Acre, Sidon, Tzur, El Arish, and some towns in Galilee: Ein Zeitim, Pekiin, Biria, Kfar Alma, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana and Kfar Yassif. Even Napoleon I Bonaparte, having seen the need that the Holy Land would be populated, had in mind to enable a mass return of Jews from Europe to settle in the country that he recognized as theirs' - evidently, he did not see any "Palestinian" claiming historical rights over the Holy Land, whose few inhabitants were mainly Jews. Besides them, many Arab sources confirm the fact that the Holy Land was still Jewish by population and culture in spite of the Diaspora: ·In 985 c.e. the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshippers..." . ·Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, in 1377 c.e. wrote: "Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years... It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement". After 300 years of Arab rule in the Holy Land, Ibn Khaldun attested that Jewish culture and traditions were still dominant. By that time there was still no evidence of "Palestinian" roots or culture . ·The historian James Parker wrote: "During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740 c.e.], the caliph and governors of Syria and the [Holy] Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons".

[@dawnvickerstaff]

I wish I could agree. However, despite thinking individuals like Noam Chomsky we are still just skirting the edges of disaster.

[@tdayesso5272]

We were told that dehumanization ended with end of colonialism and today new born infants are being bombed to deliver the unending civilising mission, 22nd century style! What an absurdity.

[@canuckdave3397]

It is so frustrating to follow Noam for years , reading and listening to his factual interpretations of geopolitics. Unfortunately, we see very little become of his vast knowledge. Almost everyone respects him , very few can challenge him. Yet after 70 years of his enlightening thoughts, we are still a world full of hate .

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

so, what good is he?

[@canuckdave3397]

@boblozaintherealworld3577 I guess that's fair question in a world where people like Trump are considered intelligent by so many idiots.

[@marklee1960]

Factual? Clearly you don't realize how much information he is leaving out.

[@canuckdave3397]

Enlighten me with your knowledge.It's obvious he can't cover everything. My point is he states facts that can be supported.

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

@@canuckdave3397 Big deal. By now anybody who can read knows these facts as well. Do your homework. Just saying, of course.

[@vleevision7787]

Calmness in wisdom is exponential to the truth involved. Truth is truth . shalom . b'ruch h'Shem

[@neilhill4446]

This man is invaluable to clear thought in evaluating the issues facing humanity.

[@formulaic78]

Without watching first, the key problem is that one people have taken possession of another people's land and have not offered a fair division of that land beyond the point at which the dispossed people realised they would never recover the land entirely. There are numerous other problems such as one group of the dispossessed being ruled by religious extremists at present, but in my view if that key issue was resolved the other issues would melt away with varying degrees of speed.

[@SN-sz7kw]

Not if Iran can help it.

[@benjaminwright157]

@@SN-sz7kw they likely wouldn't help, but my feeling is if you never try you never know and if you try and the Palestinians/Arabs reject that attempt, Israel have the firepower and US support to retake everything they give up and more.

[@shahidulislam4636]

❤U best respected wiseman Noam Chomsky; wishing you a very happy birthday in advance.

[@SinisterMud]

Ahhhh Noam!!! I always admired you for everything you did! You are a true humantitarian!

[@bubbaluv6487]

i love how he offers references and a thorough historical basis to his statements

[@archyology]

Always

[@bubbaluv6487]

can he debate charlie kirk or one of those idiots who like to go to colleges and bully the kids?@@archyology

[@archyology]

@@bubbaluv6487 Chomsky is old and ill right now and not really active anymore. But Norman Finkelstein is very active and brilliant on the topic. Chomsky still said many things which are still worth reading relevant to today though.

[@kimberleebrackley2793]

I will always listen to what Noam Chomsky has to say. Live long sir

[@GardaOrban]

@Noam Chomsky is a Nazi creeper. @Noam Chomsky doesn't like Palestinians, @Noam Chomsky hates Jews

[@natanribeiro6536]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🌒 The disappearance of individuals arrested for political beliefs, and the existence of political concentration camps in Jakarta during 1965-1966. 00:35 🤝 Vincent Bevins discusses the Jakarta Axiom under the Truman Administration and the concept of acceptable neutral countries during the early Cold War. 01:32 🌍 Examination of the U.S. approach to anti-colonial, left-leaning but not communist countries in the global South, specifically Indonesia. 02:15 🚫 The Jakarta Axiom shifts in 1953 with the Eisenhower presidency, marking a more aggressive stance against communism and neutral countries. 03:08 🕵️‍♂️ Discussion on the role of the CIA and its growing influence post-Eisenhower's election, specifically regarding the coups in Iran and Guatemala. 04:18 🌐 The anti-communist extermination program influenced the global capitalist system and the type of governments in the global South. 06:36 🗺️ The geopolitical context of East Asia post-WWII, leading to the U.S. focus on Indonesia. 07:45 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 The role of the Indonesian anti-colonial movement and the blend of communism, Muslim groups, and nationalists in shaping the country's identity. 09:09 🤲 Sukarno's vision for a new global system and the inception of the third world movement after decolonization. 10:35 🤔 Sukarno’s balanced stance towards the Indonesian Communist Party and its role in the democratic framework of Indonesia. 13:21 ⚖️ The transition of power in the U.S. and the CIA's unchecked power during the Eisenhower administration's shift in foreign policy. 17:01 📜 The unintended consequences of U.S. operations in Iran and Guatemala, leading to the radicalization of movements like Che Guevara's. 20:44 🔄 The pattern of overthrowing center-left governments and the enduring human costs of U.S. interventions. 22:59 🤝 The Bandung Conference of 1955 as a pivotal moment for the third world movement and a formal challenge to the global order. 23:54 🌍 The Bandung Conference marked the birth of the Third World movement, aiming to reshape the global system post-colonialism. 24:23 🗳️ The Indonesian Communist Party gained popularity through effective outreach and being viewed as the least corrupt party. 25:05 💵 The CIA's funding attempts to influence Indonesian elections failed against the growing support for the Communist Party. 26:42 ✈️ The CIA's involvement in the Indonesian civil war included bombing campaigns by American pilots, initially denied by the US government. 27:25 🛑 The capture of an American pilot exposed the United States' covert military operations in Indonesia. 29:20 🤝 Post-1958, the US strategy shifted to fostering relations with the Indonesian military, involving training programs in Kansas. 30:13 🔄 The rejection of European colonialism by the Bandung conference evolved into a rejection of American imperialism due to the U.S. fomenting civil war. 31:09 📈 Under President Kennedy, U.S. policy was to maintain a relationship with Indonesia, while training Indonesian soldiers in anti-communism. 32:19 🎭 Cultural differences in anti-communism between Southeast Asia and South America influenced U.S. foreign policy and military strategies. 33:53 🎥 The CIA's attempt to create a fake scandal involving President Sukarno was a bizarre and unimplemented strategy to undermine his authority. 36:13 🏛️ Sukarno's alignment with North Vietnam following the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution further strained US-Indonesia relations. 38:31 🔍 The Indonesian Communist Party's popularity made it a target for the anti-communist agenda pushed by the U.S. and the Indonesian military. 40:20 🌐 The Indonesian Communist Party had extensive influence in various societal sectors, making it a significant force in Indonesian politics. 42:12 🚨 The U.S. allegedly supported General Suharto's coup against Sukarno, leading to a violent anti-communist purge. 45:08 🚫 Fabricated propaganda by the Indonesian military and spread by Western media justified the mass persecution of communists. 47:01 🔫 The violence initiated by Suharto was instrumental in establishing a stable military dictatorship in Indonesia, eliminating the perceived threat from the Indonesian Communist Party. 47:42 📁 Declassified files revealed that the Indonesian military believed they would be rewarded by the U.S. for their actions, which was substantiated once they established a capitalist regime. 48:11 💰 Post-massacre, U.S. corporations divided Indonesian economic interests among themselves, indicating economic motives behind political actions. 48:52 🚫 The extermination campaign against Indonesian Communists highlighted the cruelty and strategic targeting of a popular political group to suppress opposition. 50:29 🌍 The mass murder in Indonesia had a profound impact on global politics during the Cold War, influencing leftist movements and prompting militant self-defense strategies. 51:39 📣 The annihilation of the Indonesian Communist Party served as a warning to suppress opposition and dissent across the country. 52:48 👤 The tactic of enforced disappearances created a climate of fear that stifled resistance, becoming a template for future U.S. counterinsurgency strategies. 54:55 🛢️ The U.S. intervened to prevent the nationalization of Indonesian oil, showcasing the interplay between political power and economic interests. 56:18 📰 Western media often reported on foreign policy events with a bias towards U.S. interests, as revealed by historical interactions between the CIA and major news outlets. 01:01:38 🕵️‍♂️ The CIA's covert operations have been rebranded over time, but the underlying strategies influencing global politics and economic dominance persist into contemporary U.S. foreign policy. 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[@KevKavanagh]

The takedown of Sukarno was unconscionable, and a big mistake, likewise the support of the grifting Phillipines dictator Marcos, what a shit-show!

[@satevo462]

I love Noam, but do yourselves a favor and crank it up to 1.25 speed.

[@Tom_Quixote]

I prefer to have a bit more time to think about what he says.

[@tonycameron5596]

Chomsky, though in his twilight years, is an absolute (inter)national treasure. What a succinct, accurate, devastating analysis of the Gaza mess.

[@beckynelson6786]

Chomsky iis one of my heroes.

[@davidreidenberg9941]

The key problem is that the rejectionist front of the Arabs has never accepted the presence of a Jewish state ANYWHERE in what was the former British mandate.

[@rodriguezdiazlaura]

The KEY problem is the creation of the Jewish state by zionists like Lord Rothschild et alter

[@mohammedhoussani1899]

why would they ? it is like blaming polish people for not accepting nazis on their land

[@anthonynenna1697]

​@@mohammedhoussani1899You're right. But unfortunately the cat is well and truly out of the bag. An Israeli state is established. It's not going anywhere. Palestinian political organisations need to be pragmatic, accept Israeli sovereignty within the 1967 borders and make the best of what they can with Gaza and the West Bank. If only Israel would allow it.

[@mohammedhoussani1899]

they tried that alot the past decades, you could search that up , ilan pappe , norman finkelstein and chomsky they all go with great detail about it , also we have faith because no occupation lasts regardless of the different labels they might use@@anthonynenna1697

[@HannahTrapeze]

When was this recorded? And who asks the question?

[@carolinez1461]

Still relevant but when was this recorded? The intro mentions a ceasefire. I've read that this wise man, sadly, hasn't been heard from for months.

[@perkinscrane]

He blithely states that Israel made the decision to expand rather than have security in the early 1970s. I guess that with old age he must have forgotten the 1973 war when without immediate US aid and support Israel’s very existence would have been brought into question. It was this event which has shaped Israel’s mindset ever since.

[@yochanantov5490]

Living to be at the age of 94yrs doesn't necessarily mean one becomes wiser. This man has ignored in disbelief to do a proper non-bias search concerning the entire history of this piece of realestate.

[@waynejohnson2855]

He did state that it was in 1967 that everything changed in the relationship with the U.S. Making your comment about a war in 1973 pretty much irrelevant. Don't know how old you are but I guess your mental faculties aren't up to scratch either. 😂😂 All the best

[@perkinscrane]

@@waynejohnson2855 I am sorry I made fun of Mr Chomsky’s age. I believe that you have missed my point. Israel’s position after the 1967 was that it ruled the roost militarily in the Middle East. It was taken by surprise by the 1973 war and for a short while it was put on the back foot. Both the US and the Soviet’s poured extra munitions into the area but Israel managed to best the Arab coalition. Israel was reminded of it’s vulnerability to surprise attack and it’s inability to trade ground. It has not forgotten this point. I’m not familiar with Mr Chomsky history, you may be able to put me right. I do know that he has an extreme antipathy for the US. Prior to 1967 most left leaning people supported Israel and Zionism. This changed when the US started to wholeheartedly support Israel. Was Mr Chomsky one of these people?

[@lorenzobasileus]

So old and so wise

[@bouchtaab8281]

Old but authentically and indefectibly Gold

[@jasperchance3382]

and so biased

[@zaug1561]

I agree with the first part of the statement.

[@aaazzi]

When was this recorded

[@TheSandman121212]

Can you give a date for when this talk happened?

[@dwaynesbadchemicals]

I thought that initial question was never going to end.

[@jamesragsdale8202]

What is the date of this interview?

[@maarten7]

It looks to be about 2 years old.

[@jamesragsdale8202]

@@maarten7 I wish it was current. Haven't heard from Chomsky in a month I'm concerned it's health-related.

[@vmab1985]

@@jamesragsdale8202 I have the same concern. The last update on his website is from June, but updates before that were frequent.

[@maarten7]

@@jamesragsdale8202 His health isn't the best, although his mind is still sharp and lucid. His voice is certainly missed.

[@jamesragsdale8202]

@@maarten7 his health has been top notch for a 94 year old but now that he has stepped away from public engagement we are only guessing.

[@marianlenehan9618]

Wow! How insightful. Thank you

[@sarahkelly2350]

thank you... I know you know what fallacies of omission are, noam, would you give the listeners some examples from your partial expose...