Nobody Tells You This About The Downswing (and it’s making you worse!)

[@jiml9062]

Great lesson, I am not a golf snob but this is one the lower handicaper can learn from/practice as I am trying to grove in that channel

[@cheemomugdoo799]

Another great video. For those people who don't have access to a grass range, a section of 2x4 with angled holes drilled at the appropriate spots to receive alignment sticks will work very well.

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Yeah that would work perfectly 🙌

[@michaeldodd6864]

Fantastic! How I wish other instructors would stop with the shallowing drills. Confuses too many amateur golfers and not necessary if you swing as Chris points out!!

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks Michael, I’ve just found that almost everyone struggles with that, but they can often lower, which is much easier

[@EricBanner571]

You are spot on Chris. As a slicer, I tried to shallow the club and found out real quick that this was not for me. By dropping the arms first and feeling that the back of my left hand was facing the target at impact has improved my swing and far less slicing.

[@johnhewlett2720]

Chris you demonstrate and articulate the movement extremely well thank you 🙏.

[@johnmcintyre8724]

Great instructional video, kept very simple, unlike many others on this part of the downswing. Thanks Chris

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks John 🙌

[@colafgc]

great video! does this work for driver as well?

[@gregcochennet385]

Great video. I definitely need to try this

[@Tang.Nguyen]

This is a much better way more than a lot out there on KZbin currently! There was one that suggests to do a baseball hit but didn’t address the open club face issue at all which is not good.

[@Fransiano]

Again a spot on drill and explanation, those short and clear videos are top level Chris!

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks 🙌

[@richyclubsport5155]

Hands in club head out, or known as Malaska move, took a while to learn it, works for me, Mike said on numerous occasions shallowing and getting the club behind you not only do you get stuck, but hit it all over the place.

[@kw2537]

This drill really helped things click for me, thank you.

[@minddrifters1973]

Hi there. Great vid. Roughly where are the poles placed in comparison to your set up/feet please, accepting youve told us they are four to five club heads apart

[@brucepuckett3503]

What a great video. I have been working on shallowing and was doing it wrong... getting flippy with my hands or stuck behind. This is a good in depth discussion and great drill I'll be trying it tomorrow!!!!

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks Bruce and hope it helps

[@wmbishop22]

Great video. I know the alignment sticks are 4-5 club heads apart, but how far are they aligned from the ball and your back foot? Sorry if I missed those details in the video.

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

It actually doesn’t matter too much how far back they are places, I’d go for around 4 feet back from the ball but the distance between them is the key part 🙌

[@essoteric]

I figured out some time back that I wasn't able to shallow the club as per so many instructions on youtube. But I discovered I could lower my arms in the downswing somewhat effectively, by initiating with my lead shoulder. This while rotating through impact helps to make consistently good contact.

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Love it, definitely a better way imo

[@PatrickPeed]

Great lesson as usual mate

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks 🙌

[@TimChump]

I’ve tried to shallow the swing for the last 15 years and just this year I finally cracked it 1) buy a 6 iron practice club put a training grip on set to neutral 2) bow the wrists in the downswing ⭐️

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Love it! Is that the one that Scheffler uses?

[@TimChump]

@@ChrisRyanGolfI didn’t realise Scottie used a training grip, Just lamkin preset training grip

[@DavidTèo-i6b]

"bow the wrists in the downswing" is very good idea. how much should I bow the lead wrist? does it work if I already set my lead wrist flat at the top of backswing?

[@JonSmith-c6d]

Grt video as usual. You forgot to explain how the station is set up though. Tx

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks Jon and noted

[@MrBowlzi]

There is so much more to this than just lowering the arms. Trying to do this is proving impossible as the swing thought /feeling is whats needed at the top of the backswing. No matter how many times i try this , with any minimal turn of the body, brings the club over the top. Years of over the top is not changeable without complete rebuild it seems and even then my subconscious self does the old moves . Show me someone this has actually fixed before and after if you can? Thanks for the attempt to fix

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Hey, definitely tough to make changes, I’d be very confident that you could change though without a compete re build, in my experience that’s rarely needed. Always tougher to make changes yourself via online videos as everything is open to interpretation, but check my playlist of live lessons and you will see some examples of this drill and move

[@jeffberger7890]

When I drop my arms, my rotation stops. When I rotate, my arms stay up. If you can only focus on one thing, should you think about dropping your arms and the rotation happens naturally? Or vice versa?

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Hey Jeff, great question but tough to answer as will most likely be specific to your swing, both are required so in an ideal world we would find a way to get them both engaged from the top, but that may initially be drills at slow speed before building up

[@raymondmedemblik9374]

Should you squat a little while lowering your arms

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

At full speed then yes that’s often a good move to have

[@systemoptimizer3542]

Smart instructors should adapt your terminology: lower the club, not shallow the club. The majority of tour players I look at in video do as you say and lower the club, not many of the current active players shallow of any significance. I have zero interest in seeing Woods swing, but I'll watch Adam Scott's any time you or other people want to show it. Nice instruction like usual on what the Tour Pros do, and how to do it!

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks and appreciate the feedback

[@timbleking]

Sorry if I simplify it too much but to me, both Tiger and Adam put the club back on plane by « simply » rotating the lower body to start the downswing, right? And this should be doing the trick if you do it with the right rythm. As we all do as a standard on this channel…😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Unfortunately not, if the lower body simply rotates the arms will move more out and not down so the club won’t move back to the impact plane soon enough, and that’s probably the most common fault I see in the am game

[@davecat1458]

Money!!

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Thanks 🙌

[@stanleytancm]

First

[@Tfwd1891]

Use the body for more than digesting thin mints!!!!!

[@Stickman18999]

This looks like exactly what Justin rose is always reminding himself .

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Yeah very similar move, feels like he has done that drill for years too

[@davidtomsett]

Shallowing is not natural

[@ChrisRyanGolf]

Agreed, for most golfers it’s the exact opposite, which is why so many struggle I think

[@davidtomsett]

Love your content Chris, thanks