NOMAD | How it works from The Creator

This video is a brief but insightful animation explaining the U.S.S. NOMAD, the deadly mass-destruction space station seen in the movie 'The Creator', directed by Gareth Edwards.
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[@iliketrains0pwned]

NOMAD could dip in and out of Earth's atmosphere because it was designed for ultra-low orbital passes. That's why it was shaped like a gigantic wing. The station's aerodynamics generated lift and reduced drag so it could safely dive into the atmosphere, strafe targets on the ground, return to LEO, and burn to stabilize its parking orbit. It likely did this minimize the time it took a missile to hit its target so the enemy couldn't get away. That's also why most missile strikes throughout the movie took 3-5 seconds from launch to hit, while the big launch near the end took several minutes to even get close

[@VesSaphia]

But we see no visual pressure from reentry despite the fact that, even if intended as such, NOMAD isn't aerodynamic; greebles and laser.

[@iliketrains0pwned]

@@VesSaphia I mean yeah, it doesn't have the best aerodynamics for flight. But it still would act as a lifting body. And that could be further supported by using engines while it is in atmosphere. Plus, reentry heating effects only happen if NOMAD was hypersonic. If it orbits slowly enough (like LEO with engines to compensate), it also could enter and exit the atmosphere slowly enough to even avoid a supersonic shockwave; let alone hypersonic heating.

[@enginepy]

I mean, that’s pretty weak. Certainly not realistic sci-fi

[@GarlicAvenger]

@@iliketrains0pwned That's not how orbit works.. You HAVE to go fast. orbiting is just moving fast enough to "fall" past the Earth's curvature. The eatrh is HUGE, so you must travel fast. If it's being held up by engines, then it's not orbiting, it's flying in Atmosphere & Space. There's no changing that fact. Also - this thing "dipping" into Earth's atmosphere at orbital speeds would definitely destroy it, or at least melt it to slag, as the leading surface area if HUGE, so heat generated due to air friction would be compounded and astronomical, without some kind of sci-fi energy shielding technology..

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

@@iliketrains0pwnedOrbital velocity is about Mach 25. You say that the station could be non hypersonic, so under Mach 5… That’s not orbit, that’s not suborbital, that’s just flying.

[@mrpurple2204]

1:42 The sound design is just brilliant.

[@uh-6016]

yeah it's kinda similiar to war of the worlds tripod sound

[@RagdollsWithCem]

I’m just glad that there weren’t too many sirens in the movie 😢

[@vincenzomonster5136]

Honestly I found the nomad to be hilarious, from its inconsistent altitude, its 1 billon dollar price tag(witch is practically a steal as far as the defense industry goes), to its giant obvious targeting laser and seeming inability communicate with ground forces, the thing got more than a few good laughs out of me. Also can you do the tanks from this movie next, I was hysterical when the rebels got flanked by the "stealthy" apartment complex sized gas guzzler's.

[@misosalmonfromthecheesecak3387]

Yeah even for being 2 miles long it shouldn't look that large in the sky especially if it's an "orbital" platform. Though the movie does mention that nomad is a trillion dollars and took a decade to construct after the entirety of Los Angeles was destroyed by a malfunction

[@miguellopes6669]

They say 1T, not 1B. And I suspect it´s not orbital, but hovering on high atmosphere

[@dportass]

Agreed, I tried ever so hard to turn my brain off and suspend my disbelief to enjoy it but I couldn't, I really couldn't, so many things wrong and plot holes that it just wasn't enjoyable. Sure it looked pretty in many places but things like the nomad just had me laughing. Even 2012 felt more believable and that's saying something

[@toptiergaming6900]

Trillion actually

[@infinitehexington]

@@dportass cringe comment, get a life

[@waffletracktor]

Hey! the thumbnail got an instant click because it looked so cool, I didnt even realise it was you! another beautiful video.

[@hakim4679]

lol same

[@lesteran1529]

Love it, mate. Nomad is so cool as a concept

[@Archmagos_Faber]

but poorly realized, the design falls into many of the pitfalls of it needs to look cool and or help the plot progress.

[@JinKee]

Can NOMAD's laser be seen by its enemies or is that just a film making shorthand for the audience to know it is near? Similar to how NOMAD can dive into the atmosphere with no re-entry heating, as a way to wow the audience. The AI never seem to see the beam coming and get into a vehicle to escape?

[@PrethorynPete]

If an object goes into the atmosphere slow enough it wont burn, and the landing ISVs from avatar wotw are proof

[@enginepy]

Yeah I feel like they could all see the targeting beams. Which were cool looking but really stupid

[@HowRe1l]

I'm not sure how it would work in real life, however the movies clearly showed the technical capabilities of the NOMAD so even if the lasers are visible(which I think they were), it is practically impossible to escape on land moving vehicle from the NOMAD sicne the speed difference is massive. I'm pretty sure there were some scenes that AI-Robots were looking at the lasers and were aware of NOMAD presence. They just seem like they didn't had any wish to act eaither because of psychological imprint of asstonishing fear the NOMAD left in their memory(no one escaped it before and that brings death whnever it goes) or they understand that they had no chances of escaping it.

[@theonlyjacknicole]

This is just a well executed video! And the visuals to highlight it? Stunning! You got yourself a new subscriber!

[@_Fulgur_]

didn't know the targeting laser scans for AI, just thought it was for targeting purposes. as to why it dips into the atmosphere is most likely depends on the type of rocket/missile used. the ICBM's can be fired from outer space but for lower yield ammunition it would likely need to dip into atmosphere for close as it might not have the range to be fired from space.

[@foxglow6798]

Bruh it literally can just drop

[@burtan2000]

The whole thing is cool in concept, but depicted horribly. I'm glad that the video pointed out some of the errors. Like if it's in space, why does it appear to be RIGHT there? It's big, but orbit is like a hundred miles. It looks like a giant ship a few km long that's floating maybe 5 or 10 km up. Then the laser? If shown from space, it would cover entire landscapes, not a single field or a single village. Plus that sound. If the NOMAD is in Earth's orbit, in OUTER SPACE, there would be no sound. They depict it inconsistently throughout the film which really annoyed me. I had heard so many good things about the film, but it really wasn't all that innovative. It was nothing new. Just a retelling of the same story we've already heard but with some neat new styles. I want something TRULY new. It seems like this was really close, but the script and general plot were missing something. It really could've been transformative. I want something as new and unique as the Matrix was, but with a more human face on the AI. We've had so many versions of nearly-human AI shown in film. HAL, the programs in the Matrix, WALL-E, short circuit, the synths in Blade runner and Alien films... I was envisioning that interwoven into the Hero's Journey. That's what i thought The Creator would be and it was, but it was still missing something. Idk what.

[@thatyoutubeguy7583]

@@burtan2000sound could be from the lazer interacting with the atmosphere

[@kjj26k]

​@@foxglow6798 Only if it is directly above the target and unguided projectiles are easily intercepted.

[@RESatellite]

A thing this big can’t hover in near-Earth Orbit at a speed this slow, it either requires a lot of fuel or a really fast speed to stay in orbit

[@otakuattacku8885]

whilst its not in the purview of VFX artists to be orbital engineers/rocket scientists, I believe what they're trying to go for is that large objects far away look like they're moving very slowly.

[@sequoyahrice6966]

sorry sir but thats just not how orbits work.

[@Cedrik_BOI]

these videos look really good, keep up the work

[@jeanmichel2642]

The functioning of this thing is inconsistent. All along the movie the rockets are launched and guided down vertically by the beam light and at the end magically all the rockets are going everywhere around the earth

[@InvitedLynx]

my guess is that for small and prepared attacks, the missile keeps low to the ground to avoid any anti air defense and is "guided" by mapping of the terrain made by the laser(for example, the lab missile).

[@caav56]

@@InvitedLynx The guidance you mention is how TERCOM/TERPROM/DSMAC works in modern cruise missiles

[@plasot]

Modern rocket missile systems are using containers ("blocks") to allow multiple launches - revolver system as visually splendid but is inferior to blocks.

[@Archmagos_Faber]

ikr that was something i noticed immediately when watching

[@bos9824]

basically the modern launch systems from destroyer ships

[@phoenixqwertz]

Nah, it´s not inferior, just different. Block systems are great for multiple launches in short time and have a great redundancy, but once empty, you have to "reload" the entire block. It is a good system for anti air warfare. A revolver-like system has a slower rate of fire, but a higher magazine capacity. A good system for ground attacks

[@Khether0001]

Loved the video, the music, models, visual, design, even if the concept doesn't make much sense, but I know what is being just part of a movie and we just do our best when it comes to our work. Very well showcased!

[@KaiBickley-pn6xb]

Honestly a hidden gem of a channel.

[@seantaggart7382]

*[NOTE ABOUT NOMAD FROM UAT WEAPONS RESEARCH COUNCIL(UATWRC)]* Glaring weakpoints: Lack Of internal Defenses(obviously because they dont expect anyone to get close enough to board), only one missile can be fired at a time(multiple missiles may be active however), Laser tracking Guidance(if blocked, can possibly not aim well) Suggested counter: Either a small fast troop transport craft like the USS StarDropper or exhausting the Missiles followed by counter fire from Orbit *_[IN THE STARS WE TRUST TOGETHER]_* *[END REPORT]*

[@overlyfatman9722]

You did a great job. I like this video it deserves more views. NOMAD is my new favorite AC 130.

[@MMaximmachinegun]

What program did you use to make this? I like the visual style.

[@radjalomas8854]

Just about everything in this move is dumb AF. But the SFX were great, that doesn't compensate for a lousy illogical scenario though. Such a disappointment! I'm glad I streamed it 😂

[@Will-sq3ip]

One thing I don’t get is how is NOMAD, a mobile military weapon platform, is even allow to hover above and attack on foreign soil without sparking international incident. Honestly, I expected they have a giant superlaser instead of missiles. I mean, they can still launch ICBMs from the US soil and even sea ships. Unless, orbiting in space is an effective security.

[@thirstyserpent1079]

The Geopolitical situation in universe is questionable as it's not exactly clear whats happening with the pro ai countries.

[@monchiespedo]

Hope they got a trademark on it cuz DARPA always looking to build new cool death toys.

[@FLLFFLGaming]

You Can't Name A Better "Ship" Than NOMAD, I LOVE IT, IT'S PERFECT ALL THE WAY, It Got Me Rooting For It, LOL

[@Ben-0]

Nice animation for one of my favorite fictional spaceships. However, I think most people watching the film can get an idea on how it operates.

[@rookiesru7271]

Great video! Thanks! :)

[@jamar_tutorial7350]

Gg man you deserve much more visibility

[@NickyLunaLove]

NOMAD is easily on of my favorite space stations from sci-fi

[@Agonis100]

Awesome work.

[@dontask7657]

Nice work on the channel so far

[@xHobbylxser]

does NOMAD automatically launch a missile once it has detected AI or does it need human verification?

[@TempleGuitars]

"Umpregnable" isn't a word.

[@JayMayJam]

Yeah, editing mistake, supposed to be 'impregnable'

[@jerhom2787]

0:00 NOMAD? Never herd of it 0:20 Hey thats where i live! 0:54 Oh, thats what a NOMAD does

[@DarkMachineKing]

Arsenal Bird on steroids.

[@powerpuppy7217]

Please make one on the spice harvester from dune

[@Gerhard_Schroeder]

Nice animation :)

[@enginepy]

I liked the movie a lot but I thought some of the tech was foolish/lazy. Nomad didn’t make much sense, and it just went wherever it wanted. Why did it have agriculture on it? The bright blue targeting lasers? The whole thing was silly and didn’t fit its purpose. The giant tanks were also a bit ridiculous. I liked a lot of everything else.

[@andrew-hv1hv]

How did it not make sense? It has hydroponic farms to sustain the staff aboard it and uses the laser to scan for AI and targeting.

[@enginepy]

@@andrew-hv1hv sigh… a warship operating in very low-earth orbit has no need to grow its own food. That is just silly. And why a giant square visible targeting laser system? What does that do? We have more advanced targeting now. It serves no purpose other than looking future-y. I like the movie a lot but this took from it a little because it was just dumb.

[@taylorlatch2635]

It's just a movie so I gave it a few passes lol. The laser thing was to scan for AI, I guess to avoid causing human casualties (in theory). But yeah everything you said about it being completely useless I agree with. The main thing about it, out of all the issues that stood out to me, was that blowing up Nomad would somehow end the war. Both the USA and the AI rebel nation agreed that Nomad was the key to either winning or losing the war... Lol. But a couple f16s and aircraft carriers, icbms, or soldier transport planes could have done the same exact thing. Kinda goofy. Felt like the Avatar movie kind of. Overall I enjoyed the movie though, mostly because it was 85% action packed and not filled with a bunch of slow bs. The Nomad blowing stuff up was fun to watch at least, and yeah, just fiction not a huge deal.

[@enginepy]

@@taylorlatch2635 yeah good points

[@______IV]

This movie seemed like it had potential but just didn’t deliver. The writing took a distant backseat to the effects, which is never a good sign. That lack of quality in the writing shows up with the way NOMAD was shown in space one second, then jump-cut to low atmosphere the next second. Sci fi is fantasy, but it has to make sense by having reasonable continuity within its own universe. However, this movie was a mess in so many ways.

[@radjalomas8854]

Sci-fi is not necessarily fantasy. In fact good Sci-fi is based on the science of it's time. Just like Jules Vernes did.

[@casualwoomy]

why does this video play like some modern day tech presentation

[@foxglow6798]

Bc this is a good channel

[@alexlun4464]

Cool concept but it has so many inconsistencies in the movie.

[@Ili4Elnino]

I was worried about the nomad the whole movie, these terrible robots won.

[@nobodyimportant2510]

If only such a weapon could be used for better purposes

[@OverlordShanbo]

This film was some top level design, showcased in a boring story with bad acting and dialogue. A real shame, because the worldbuilding and design was smashing.

[@zama422]

Ah yes, the super advanced orbital weapons platforms that needs to use what is essentially a giant laser pointer. Genius.

[@marcb1289]

And all these work without any AI to help ????

[@mrdoomsday1966]

Do the Star Trek JJ USS Enterprise NCC-1701 kelvin constitution class 2258 heavy command cruiser tier 6

[@maxencelaffont]

great video, but dont you think it's levitating and not orbiting because it fly low and too slow for a space station

[@JayMayJam]

It IS orbiting, however, it does seem like it is just levitating in the sky in certain scenes of the movie. That's why I included the last part in the video, it is unknown if NOMAD has the capability to enter the atmosphere and levitate or if it's merely a visual error.

[@hifex_4275]

​@@JayMayJamone thing which is strange to me is the middle section of the laser. At the ship the laster is cut in to segments. But at the ground the part in the middle just appears out of no where. Which isnt how lasers work. And i dont consider "it s sci-fi" as satisfying answer. Still one of my favourite aerospace vehicles and the sound design is sooooo nice. But it raises some questions the way it is presented.

[@miguellopes6669]

I highly suspect NOMAD is not in orbit, nor in space. It´s moving too slowly for that. Most likely it´s hovering on the high atmosphere.

[@bos9824]

I think you're correct but the movie makes it a little confusing

[@oberonpanopticon]

It’s all fun and games until the AIs figure out how to work underground…

[@MykePagan]

NOMAD was the silliest plot devicein that silly movie

[@RemiLega]

I see absolutely zero reason why building the NOMAD was necessary. The task of bombardment could easily be accomplished by offshore ships, mainland ICBMs, high-altitude bombers, and much more. Even if an orbital bombardment station was necessary, they could easily just go back to the Rods-from-God ideas that the US already made during the Cold War, or the Moon colonies mentioned. Why can’t we just pull off a Gulf War?

[@withoutstickers]

This thing actually annoyed me so much, it’s cool as hell, but the designer doesn’t appear to know he difference between an aircraft and a space station. Throughout the entire film is hardly shown at anywhere near the altitude required for orbit, and even at the end when it’s shown at high altitude there is very clearly non artificial gravity, so at most it’s flying suborbitally. I understand the need for it to appear huge and menacing in the sky but being anything other than a space station is just completely stupid, given it has no visible engines and (I don’t care if you think any long thin ish structure is a wing) clearly can’t generate aerodynamic lift. Brilliant concept, brilliant visuals, horrible execution.

[@713bigounce]

This is literally a WORD FOR WORD copy paste from the NOMAD wiki page 💀💀💀 yeah great job

[@JayMayJam]

No, it seems that the Wiki page copied word for word from MY video. Look at the history edit of the page. The edit literally says "More information on the NOMAD from the video "NOMAD | How it works from The Creator" by JayMayJam". Yeah great job for doing your research lmao

[@davidjenkins7389]

The dumbest concept ever shown in a movie. NOMAD is basically useless and cannot work.

[@CharlieBarbarossa]

Short summary: it doesn't work. Nothing of it makes any logical sense. It was only made to look cool on film.

[@foxglow6798]

You’d have to change quite a lot about Nomad and how it is used for it to be a viable concept. The only similarity would be “big spaceship with big weapon.” The laser could still make it in as a psychological tactic though.

[@whirledpeas2514]

“Umpregnable” is not a word❗️ SOURCE: Ai-Bot

[@JayMayJam]

yes, editing error, supposed to be impregnable

[@apollyon1]

Holy shit i forgot i watched this movie. the trailer was more interesting.

[@therecklesswarlock6439]

i can see this thing just beign a regular space ship

[@autismo2440]

One of the most stunningly beautiful spacecraft with the dumbest lore/mechanics I've ever heard of

[@mephisto8101]

It's looking great in the movie, but that thing is as far from reality as it goes. If it would be in an orbital trajectory, it would move with over 7 km/s, instead of the slow crawl we see in the film. It also makes zero sense apart from rule of cool to lower the orbit for targeting purposes and to shorten the missiles' travel time. In the movie, its height of flying is fairly inconsistent. The size on the screen indicates it being well within the atmosphere and moving comparatively slow. On other scenes, it seems to be in a low earth orbit. The targeting laser is a cool visual effect, but again devoid of any actual purpose. How the hell would a laser detect AI? You can measure range incredibly well with it and you can learn about atmospheric composition. But looking for AI in a 1km broad scan? It doesn't work and even if it would it would be spectacularly inefficient. Also, why the hell would anyone use a laser in the visible spectrum of light? Furthermore, tere is only one Nomad, which due to its size can be easily spotted with small telescopes. And it only scans the area underneath, which is also a waste of capabilities. So there is this one singular big object in the sky and it does a worse job than regular land or sea launched missiles and handfull of spy satellites? The longer I think about it, the less sense it makes. But, admittedly, it does look cool. I would expect this kind of craft more in an Anime made for teenagers.

[@blacknass1943]

ohh the DAMON

[@ahmadsyauqi8854]

Defense huh ? 😏

[@WrongIdeasChannel]

The coolest ship design of the 21st century so far?

[@leeperry7068]

I'm a huge fan of most things sci-fi, but I have to be honest... this whole concept just had me disconnected from the whole movie, it's such a poorly thought out bit of fiction. Even from a tactical point of view, you can strike things with cruise missiles as old as Tomahawks from many decades ago. Then it's just hovering there SUPER low, low enough that random shoulder mounted missiles could threaten it, compared to something actually in low orbit. Then there's the fact that there's CROPS in it? Come on. It's not like modern aircraft carriers (which are more dangerous than this thing) have actual FIELDS in them... that's so dumb. Are they processing the grain up there? Making artisan bread for the soldiers aboard? You're going to weigh this flying platform down with actual dirt, instead of just having normal food stored on it. Anyway, it's pretty, sure, I give you that.

[@toptiergaming6900]

How does this air defense system work? Does it use lasers, CIWS, missiles, and energy sheild BS? Hell i could just build a stonehenge railgun (ace combat) and shoot it down just like the arsenal bird

[@USIJN-Commander]

i dont no who copy and paste, you or Fandom XD

[@tytemind7850]

What a joke! They’re already here, now how’s that plan working?

[@albhem_eh]

And it costs trillion dollars for.... That?! Sounds way too overengineered

[@kjj26k]

It's a 2.3 km long spaceplane packed full of cutting edge weapons and computers... Built by American arms manufactures... Surprised it wasn't 3 trillion.

[@sailorartema9]

we need it in real life

[@leobragaurbe]

Yes, it’s the coolest thing ever

[@thanosfickda]

@@leobragaurbe this is just a reinvent the wheel of AC-130, stealth aircraft stuff , nothing new, except those stealth aircraft can't be seen, no warning or some warning, then just destruction even attack helicopter like ah 64, Corba viper helicopter have enough firepower to scared you

[@yohaneswahyuanggara6351]

That's a trillion dollars in check, son

[@sailorartema9]

@@yohaneswahyuanggara6351 first we need the technology than the money

[@_martian101]

To do what terrorist

[@Bulsajo]

It was cool looking but overall a very dumb maguffin (sp?) that nearly ruined an otherwise enjoyable action movie.

[@Vipus2501]

Looks awesome, but it's still an incredible dumb thing from an incredible dumb movie.

[@kevinhaynes9091]

The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Another stupid sci-fi megastructure, which is impossible to defend, and makes the story equally stupid...

[@alexzhao9868]

Well it is impossible to defend because there is nothing to defend against

[@nerag7459]

Disappointing film. Great visuals.

[@passivehouseaustralia4406]

stupidest design ever... lets build a skyscraper sized target in orbit to be easy and then shine a light on the ground to say where I will strike.... pfft

[@frankthompsonthompson6820]

Корабль из Аватара лучше

[@marianpazdzioch6632]

And it was destroyed by kid with superpowers.

[@_martian101]

Superpower which disabled all technology miles away, one giant mothership would be the easiest prey for it

[@RalphGaming-nj8jk]

Worst film I’ve ever seen

[@stevechance150]

That movie wasn't great.