Noobs Only: How to bind your FCS HOTAS for Star Citizen 3.8.1

[@pktrsho6055]

TCFS I have had this game installed since 2018 and have never played it because I never knew the proper way to set it up for HOTAS. Thank you so much for providing this. I will share this video to anyone who is having HOTAS issues with Star Citizen.

[@BaronFeydRautha]

I just grabbed the full 16000M FCS for xmas. I was dreading having to set this up until I found this vid. THANK YOU.

[@DeathToAllHamsters]

im getting that HOTAS tomorrow and just got star citizen so thank you a million for this :D now I dont have to set for houres on end thinking of what to bind to where and so on :D

[@delta7_actual]

Awesome thank you! This game is so much better with them

[@skitch8616]

@ 5:05 what exactly am I saying "NO" to, there is no "strafe forward/backward invert"" option in game settings... are you refering to the "Flight - HOTAS thrust invert togglre (on/off)" ?

[@TFCSHQ]

I cant check this second. However they might have changed the bind. I'll check later and let you know

[@TFCSHQ]

Okay what you need to change in game settings is "Flight - HOTAS thrust invert toggle" and you want that to be "no". The reason for this is when its a toggle people often don't remember if its off or on and it can cause problems and is a bit clunky because theres nothing (or at least wasnt) anything telling you if its on or off. So if its a press and hold style of bind you always know. "Is my finger on this? Yes. I'd go backwards". Its a lot smoother way of controlling reverse strafe with a traditional throttle.

[@skitch8616]

Hey no offense TFCS!!! You are a B-E-A-utiftifully amazing ingenious man that we don't deserve, I'm just gonna add a fast forward to your video so that people know when you actually start the HOTAS button config, feel free to delete my comment and add the time stamps to your video description, if not cool, and glad I could help out. Also just a heads up. Please update your video, as your actual video shows multiple button configs that were not discussed but shown as extras... exp: (Flight - Movement {Dual Operatives such as, Pitch/Yaw/Roll/Strafe Left/Right/forwards/back, each had their own button rather than the "general" button... you actually show different bindings in your (visual rather, than verbal) HOTAS bindings for all of them instead of the Multi-Roll option. Flight - movement 3:05 @ 5:05 what exactly am I saying "NO" to, there is no "strafe forward/backward invert"" option in game settings... are you refering to the "Flight - HOTAS thrust invert togglre (on/off)" ?....settings is "Flight - HOTAS thrust invert toggle" Flight - Targeting 6:07 Flight - Mining 7:27 - (note: your ship no longer takes off unti you re-adjust your [Flight - Speed Limiter {ADS}] Flight - Weapons 8:27 Flight - Defensive 9:24 Flight Power/Cockpit 10:12 (sorry again TFCS, I'm not trying to undermined your prior info on your video). Love you and what you're doing for the community VERSE is awesome man!!!

[@TFCSHQ]

Its fine. I do the same for other videos lol

[@skitch8616]

Hey I'm sure you haven't checked these posts in a while but, would you be willing to update us with a new Hotas binding for a 3.10 of SC for use?

[@TFCSHQ]

They're already out. Check my youtube page. I have two videos on 3.10 binds. One for the FCS and one for my personal setup.

[@skitch8616]

@@TFCSHQ sweet my dude thank you much for the ridiculously fast response, you're a champ

[@npc6817]

BIND ME UP BIND ME UP INSIDE I CAN'T BIND UP BIND ME UPIN- *_S A V E M E_*

[@awsomedude9111]

Jesus will unbind you

[@npc6817]

@@awsomedude9111 he better fucking not you have any idea how long it took me to bind all these controls?

[@evanneal2622]

Can you do one for X52 logitech HOTAS

[@tedrandall4066]

do you have a print out of the button layout you just told him ow to do for a sheet to look at so one can learn the buttons in game for people that cant remember all this stuff ?

[@TFCSHQ]

I do not sadly but at some point I will inevitably need to remake this video so I'll keep it in mind

[@LilKiDSaint]

Is there a pdf or something of this?

[@norezplaysgames]

Time to make a new video! lol A lot has changed and some of these options aren't there.

[@TFCSHQ]

I made 2 for 3.10, goes into a lot of the newer stuff. Honestly not a ton has changed since then though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac

[@Topg00se]

all the hats on the throttle and the throttle itself is all backwards. for example up on the hat is down and vice versa

[@1toogo]

hi I was wondering if you wold do a video of how some of the buttons work. i never knew of some of the functions or what they do. sorta like a part two to complete the video.

[@TFCSHQ]

What buttons?

[@Llarthel]

@@TFCSHQ yes

[@DJTIMOPRODUCTION]

Has anyone figured out why thrust is still in reverse tried inverting them ?????🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TFCSHQ]

What did you bind throttle to?

[@DJTIMOPRODUCTION]

TFCS to my throttle

[@TFCSHQ]

@@DJTIMOPRODUCTION Yea but what bind in game? Throttle forward, throttle backwards, strafe forward/back?

[@DJTIMOPRODUCTION]

TFCS throttle forward/back I tried strafe forward/back as well

[@TFCSHQ]

@@DJTIMOPRODUCTION Bind it ONLY to "throttle forward" It might be inverted as well, which is addressed in the new 3.10 video at 7:50. The new video is below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac&t= So if you're moving backwards, its because you have the wrong thing bound, OR, you have "Strafe forward/back invert" turned on. If you only go forward, but at 0% you move forward and at 100% you don't move you need to invert your input.

[@wmgthilgen]

Though I've got a warthog stick and throttle, and where as my choice in buttons will be different then yours in this video. I gonna use your suggestions of which to set now and which to add in later. Doing such will be fine for starting, tweeking and or adding things like a modifer later would be great. You didn't cover it, but how does one set a button as a modifer?

[@TFCSHQ]

You should check out the newer videos (made for 3.10 but still relevant). Binds have changed a bit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXTXYZKDebaCnrM&t= kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac As far as a modifier, currently you can not do this without 3rd party software to my knowledge. You'd need something like JoyToKey or Joystick Gremlin. You might be able to do it in the TARGET software.

[@ShuhDonk]

I am new to scar citizen and new to joysticks. I purchased dual t16000.m joysticks and the thrustmaster throttle. Could you do a video on the best way to configure a dual setup like that? thanks!

[@TFCSHQ]

I don't use dual sticks so my advice likely wouldn't be that good. However RS did a video on this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHmplXyHl6qhq80

[@ShuhDonk]

@@TFCSHQ Thank you for the link and the quick response!

[@nolan6137]

My strafe up and strafe down is inverted in game for some reason.

[@TFCSHQ]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac Check the new video. Just go there and invert anything needed.

[@alpha-0874]

I have this exact same setup. Any advice for where to bind a second weapon group? It'd be useful for ships like the Vanguard series that are forced to use both gimbal and fixed weapons at the same time.

[@TFCSHQ]

Just bind them to the same button. If you're using weapons that don't complement each other to the point you think you need two weapon groups its the weapons that are the problem. Even if you had two binds you probably won't be able to realistically manage choosing when to fire what in mid combat. Multiple weapon groups will be more useful when disabling becomes more of a thing but for now just mono boat and use 1 weapon group. Theres also some changes coming in 3.10 so you might even consider just using all fixed for the Vanguard

[@wencaz1080]

Can you do this for X52 Pro pls?

[@hmuphilly9129]

Is that Skallagrim?

[@urlond9371]

Question, so what would you recommend peddles for?

[@TFCSHQ]

So the reason pedals are good and pretty much every combat pilot uses them is what I was talking about in the beginning of the video. Through put of controls so you're not bottle necked. So by having pedals you add two more limbs to control the ship and the workload on your hands is lessened and each task your hands do goes up in efficiency as a result. People bind pedals in two ways (to my knowledge) The most common bind for pedals currently seems to be people using them for strafe forward/backwards. The people who bind their pedals this way are using HOSAS. The way I personally bind my pedals as a HOTAS pilot is Rudder=Strafe Left/Right. Left Toe= Strafe up. Right Toe = Strafe down. Like if you bind things the way I suggested in the video you're probably going to have a bit of bottle necking in an intense dogfight. This is just the nature of HOTAS/HOSAS without pedals. Theres just a lot to do and you're only using half your limbs to achieve it. A simpler example would be imagine playing with a hand tied behind your back. I'm planning on doing another bind video at some point I'm just waiting for my Alpha grip to come in so I have some time playing with that to insure my advice is sound.

[@urlond9371]

@@TFCSHQ Awesome thank you.

[@awsomedude9111]

@@TFCSHQ I'm just wondering if I should be using Target software or joytokey or anything else because in game key binding editor isn't perfect

[@awsomedude9111]

@@urlond9371 good question, also if you know the answer to my question then thank you, not sure if he will see this.

[@urlond9371]

@@awsomedude9111 Yeah i'm still debating if I want my Throttle to be my Forward and backward, and my peddles be roll. Or have my peddles be my forward/backward and use the Hotas paddles to be roll.

[@SHONUFF79x]

Can you still play the FPS parts of the game with your mouse and keyboard even though you fly with hotas?

[@mikalemadden1762]

Yeah

[@TFCSHQ]

Yes. Heres a picture of my setup i.imgur.com/AgjjUoE.jpg Reason for the slide out mouse pad and keypad is because I found it uncomfortable to lean over the HOTAS.

[@RadioactiveGoose]

I am trying out this tutorial but for some reason my throttle is inverted. By pushing it forward, I fly backwards. Any idea why? Thanks! *edit* By googling around I found out this is a common "bug". Haven't been able to find a workaround.

[@TFCSHQ]

There is a "throttle forward" and "Throttle backwards" bind now. Throttle forward should be the correct bind, however if you have a problem try each of the three throttle binds and see if any of those help

[@RadioactiveGoose]

@@TFCSHQ Thanks for replying. Unfortunately those give exactly the same result :) It's not the biggest problem but it's just a bit counter-intuitive. I'll try and dig a bit deeper into this.

[@TFCSHQ]

@@RadioactiveGoose Another problem could be you need to go to controls and invert the control. That said I'd think if you're binding "throttle forward" and you ship is flying backwards it'd just make it so your ship flys forward when you're at 0%. Adding. You're just binding throttle forward correct? Throttle backwards is not bound? Also, do you have a bind for "Strafe forward/back invert"? If so try tapping that to see if it fixes it. If you don't have that bound try binding it then tapping it (don't hold, tapping acts as a toggle) to see if thats at LEAST a work around.

[@RadioactiveGoose]

@@TFCSHQ It's all very odd. I do have a bind for the "strafe fwd/back invert". However it does nothing on tapping. Only if I hold it, it works. Other than that I tried everything. Enabling invert movement under 'controls' does nothing. I also tried binding the throttle to only forward or only backwards, in both cases it keeps going the opposite direction. At this point the only thing I figure could work is mess around with the gamecode which I prefer to avoid. Thanks anyways though. If you have any other ideas I'd love to hear them but I think I'm pretty much out of options.

[@RadioactiveGoose]

Ok I finally found a solution. The keybinding for strafe forward/backward has an "input 2". Apparently this means that under controls I have to navigate to "Hotas 2", which is labelled wrong. Here I can invert the forward/backward. It doesn't make sense that it has to be inverted before it's correct imo but at least it works so I'm not complaining :) Cheers!

[@lowehandell750]

pls explain what buttons you are pressing dude

[@TFCSHQ]

?

[@mikalemadden1762]

Hi, this video is really helpful, thank you. Just a couple of questions, I didn't see you bind decoupled toggle, is that worth using? Also, could you use the analog stick on the front of the throttle to control left and right strafe instead of the paddles? I have a hard time using those and pressing the afterburner button at the same time.

[@TFCSHQ]

Decouple is pretty useless. It just arbitrarily makes flight harder with no benefit. Could check out the "EZHab: Strafing/Orbiting while in coupled mode" video we have for a more in-depth example. The guy I was helping with this also ended up changing strafe left/right from the paddles to the analog stick and strafe up/down to the paddles. You COULD try binding it all to the analog stick but I think its better to separate them personally so theres less imprecision when you only intend to use one or the other. Ideally for a HOTAS you'd also have flight pedals though and bind strafing to those. Its a lot for a single hand to control.

[@gerardscott9180]

severely out of date unfortunately menus are completly different but good to get an idea what you use in the game

[@TFCSHQ]

We have a newer 3.10 version of this guide (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac or kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXTXYZKDebaCnrM&t=) however we will not be releasing a new version until 3.18 (at least). Reason for this is it is very frivolous to release a new version of this video after every patch (most stuff stays the same patch to patch, so its only really relevant to update maybe after a year or more). The idea for the next video is a more general overview however that will be more robust to changing bindings. For example there will be (at some point near in the future) a overhaul to the flight model and controls. This makes updating the video(s) fleeting because very soon the whole game will change substantially so any advice we'd give will be out of date soon. However, if you have any questions or need help binding your HOTAS, feel free to hop on our discord. I will personally assist you get setup.

[@john6203]

I've literally spent hours trying to get my HOTAS throttle to move the ship forward when I push forward and to do the exact opposite for when I want to slow down or stop. But oh no! for some fucking reason everything is inverted. Forward means back and so on. Roberts you fucking shithouse!

[@TFCSHQ]

"for some fucking reason everything is inverted" I mean, are you new to using a HOTAS? "Roberts you fucking shithouse!" Has nothing at all to do with CIG. It has to do with manufactures not using a standard axis position. Some devices are different. You'll have the same problem for every game including DCS "I've literally spent hours trying to get my HOTAS throttle to move the ship forward when I push forward" Watch at the timestamp kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSxpISVbrOtjac

[@john6203]

@@TFCSHQ Many thanks again. Not new to HOTAS hence my frustration. Every time I put this game back on my machine I spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to remap stuff that shouldn't be that difficult to remap.

[@jamesdavis3177]

we dident really care about the buttons friend we needed advice on the curves and sliders so we can lay in smoothly

[@CrisURace]

i dont understand why they cant just make a profile form the game for this hotas...this is horrible to setup.................. a lot of ppl have those hotas setup is pretty common