Outin Nano vs Wacaco Picopresso - Which Portable Espresso Maker is Better for Travel? ☕️

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[@NoraDunn]

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[@thumbtak123]

More bars of pressure doesn't always mean good. Standard is around nine for a semi-automatic espresso machine you find in a coffee shop.

[@NoraDunn]

Good to know!

[@PeterEmery]

A double-shot kit for the Outin is now available. It includes the same style of tamper and filling collar as the Picopresso.

[@NoraDunn]

Ooh - good to know!

[@RahulYadav-nk6wp]

I'd rather would pick the picopresso. Because, out in it's an electronic device, and trust me on it, they all will fail in few years. A manual one would last much longer, pull great shots, I'd do the ritual too, and I love it. With upcoming upgrades, you can match worlds best coffee machines. A hand grinder, the picopresso and the upgrade gear.

[@NoraDunn]

Fair enough!

[@samson2143]

That why I got mine. I wasn’t a fan of the built in charging battery and solid state electronics. It’s not if it fails . It’s when will it fail?

[@SunriseLAW]

moka pot and a tiny propane burner is what I decided on after watching a bunch of these videos. not espresso, per se but... a decent sized HOT drink. As long as I am not driving, I can even make it in the car.

[@PeterEmery]

When travelling with the Outin Nano either the portafilter or the pod adapter fits inside the water chamber, you just need to find somewhere to put the scoop/tamper.

[@NoraDunn]

Exactly. And also, if you wish to bring both the portafilter AND the pod adapter, one needs to be carried separately.

[@PeterEmery]

@ Well, no, not so. Store one in the water chamber and screw the other to the base and cover with the cup.

[@chrisc7262]

The picopresso is miles ahead, provided you can get properly finely ground coffee or grind fresh with a manual hand grinder. One is a fake crema with a double wall basket and the other is a cafe quality single wall 52mm basket. (nice ad for Outin though) lol

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for your input!

[@Archieconan]

Well put!

[@arturfil]

OutIn recently released a single wall basket for a proper espresso dial

[@NoraDunn]

@@arturfil Good to know!

[@arturfil]

​@@NoraDunn Agh actually I think it's still double walled so it still makes crema the nano plus, just twice as much lol. Oh well :(

[@jten6632]

Twenty years ago traveled a lot with a little coffee plunger (French press), invariably had luggage inspected. Customs finally explained it looked like bomb parts. They weren’t remotely interested in the fruit carving knives (I’d forgotten) also packed. I’m going to invest in an Outin, not going far atm but even airbnbing for a weekend that looks great.

[@NoraDunn]

Awesome! You'll love it. So far I've consistently been pulled aside for extra inspection with the Outin, but I'm patient and good-natured about it, and it is inevitably a conversation piece! :-)

[@rebeccaschurtz]

Thanks Nora! I'm not a huge coffee fan myself, but I know travellers who will enjoy this!

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks Rebecca!

[@rebeccaschurtz]

@@NoraDunn 😉

[@mikezayas3828]

GOD amazing, I'm a espresso freak myself and have a few machines even the picopresso which have save me quite sometines. There's an important fact that I dislike from the Outin and is the filter capacity been 8-10 grams and been plastic, that is why you have more flavors been pull out in the picopresso that has a 18 gram 52mm basket, close to small espresso machines, I love espresso in the morning but to achieve all that flavor that maybe the picopresso has over the Outin. And yes love that you can heat the water thats a few point over the picopresso because it takes me a lot to make just one espresso. And i need a manual grinder with me always no already ground coffee you lose flavor there too. I think if they change the basket to a bigger one and metal I would buy it without thinking but for the moment no

[@NoraDunn]

Great suggestions! I think you're right about the different basket. That would make the Outin perfect!

[@NoraDunn]

@@MaakBow 😂

[@songnamling]

they have the new basket package with bigger size and metal basket now

[@darylfortney8081]

For travel I pick the pico with an immersion heater. For car camping the outin. Having an outlet or gas stove is the critical difference. The only advantage of the outin is the integrated water heater. The cost is a lot of weight and size.

[@NoraDunn]

Great breakdown - thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@darylfortney8081]

@@NoraDunn Also having a separate immersion heater can be used more flexibly in more situations like heating water for soup, hot chocolate, etc.

[@RolandoNispiros]

Appreciate the comparison. It was almost painful to watch the other brand since I just got my Outin. The other brand had so many steps.

[@NoraDunn]

Ha ha - yes! Outin is beautiful for its ease of use. Glad you like it!

[@outin.official]

Thanks for your appreciation!! Hope you enjoy it! 😀

[@RolandoNispiros]

@@outin.official thank you. I am enjoying. Making up reasons to half an extra cup during the day.

[@gwobcke]

I am a fan of the AeroPress Go with the optional stainless steel filter instead of paper filters. Have you tried one before?

[@NoraDunn]

I haven't! Nice suggestion.

[@brahamyoung1951]

Having coffee & watching With my one wheel../ pico From downunder....

[@NoraDunn]

Ha ha! Drive safe... :-)

[@MohdShahrulNizam90]

Can you make comparing the taste of coffe betwee Outin Nano and Rok Presso GC pro...

[@RobinHartJones]

I have been trying to work out which one is best for me and will probably get the Outin BUT... I also climbed Kilimanjaro last year and it took about 6 days and weight is an important consideration plus there is no electricity up there. That means that the ability to heat the water just five times would not be useful. Obviously I could get hot water from the crew mornings and evenings but that applies to the Wacaco as well. That leaves you with 'Carry half the weight and pump the coffee myself' versus 'carry twice the weight but not need to pump.' Perhaps the ability to use pods might tip the balance if you are OK with the substandard coffee obtained from pods. I think that if I had both machines and was going up Kili again then I would take the Wacaco. I have a feeling that Wacaco also does an optional Nespresso pod adapter but maybe that is on a different model.

[@NoraDunn]

Interesting observations about Kili and what you might have needed for that and similar trips. If you can get hot water and don't need to heat it, then one charge of the Outin lasts for over 100 coffees if I'm not mistaken. Either way, more than enough to cover a trip. But you're right: the Wacaco will be lighter and smaller, and I think there's a separate model that takes capsules.

[@eponra8988]

there is a seperate model that ALSO takes Nespresso capsules, and its the Wacaco Nanopresso. Sometimes you get it for 70-80ish bucks including the Nespresso-Adapter (called NS-Adapter). IF you only want nespresso capsules, you can then go even smaller (even smaller then the picopresso btw), and go Wacaco NS2. I have both, and i really really love the NS2, as it was only 50 bucks, and it basically lives in my backpack and is always with me so i cant forget it. The Nanopresso is normally at home, but when im going on a trip this goes with me, with preground coffee, STILL the NS-Adapter with some capsules (because if im out of ground coffee, and still want a coffee, this is better than nothing), and the barista kit (which is basically as big as the nanopresso, and lets you make 120mL shots. Im pretty happy with both, but... you have to really love coffee and love the manual part around it, else, in this comparison... yeah, go and take the Outin. :)

[@NoraDunn]

@@eponra8988 Thanks for the info! Well said too about having to love the manual part (the ceremony, if you will) of making coffee to truly get enjoyment from the Wacaco.

[@darylfortney8081]

They need to figure out how to integrate the grinder into it

[@tybrady4598]

LOL, it’s not actually 20 bars and 18 bars of pressure. Put a pressure gauge on it and you’ll find it’s 9 or below. Professional machines are around 9 bars. Companies like to claim 20 bars of pressure because customers ignorant about espresso machines think more is better.

[@NoraDunn]

Good to know!

[@SunriseLAW]

Too many Outin on ebay selling at significant discount. Picopress requires hot water to preheat and brew. Have a GCP at home. For travel (all car) I decided to go with a moka pot and a small propane burner to get a decent-sized HOT drink. As long as I am not driving, I can even brew in the car. Not espresso per se but such are road trips.

[@NoraDunn]

Good strategy! Indeed a moka pot isn't espresso, but it's close.

[@capyboppy]

I have issues with both. I’ve looked at review after review for weeks to find the best portable appliance for my needs and have decided neither unfortunately fits. I sent back the Picopresso as I just didn’t have strength to pump it, I could barely press it in and had to give up after 3-4 pushes which was causing me a lot of physical pain. It was however so well made and I would have definitely kept it if I had had the strength to operate it. Definitely no good for weak people. The Outin was in my basket to purchase then o realised i hasn’t checked the weight nor the amount of coffee it holds. The weight was too heavy for me to manage at well over 700g empty. Also the fact it only holds 6g yielding around 40g coffee. Is just a few mouthfuls even when adding hot water to make it into my preferred lungo. Trying to find a normal kitchen machine where I can physically lock the porta filter is yet another issue 😢. I guess I might be destined to only have espresso as a treat at a coffee shop!

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for the intel! Too bad neither worked out for you. Are you looking for a machine for your kitchen, or for travel? (You confused me when you said you're trying to find a normal kitchen machine).

[@mezerwi]

Did u grind your bean super fine? Hard to pump indicate bean too fine.

[@capyboppy]

@@NoraDunn it was for both eventually. A portable like this for out and about in the car as a treat and to save money. Also wanted any kind of espresso machine - portable or freestanding for in the kitchen that wasn’t big as very little space. I have now ordered the latter - a Delonghi which was the only one I could twist and lock the portafilter on the demo models.

[@capyboppy]

@@mezerwi at first I did and thought maybe it was too fine so tried bit by bit grinding the beans coarser each time but no difference.

[@eyeeye7543]

It is not true that higher pressure is better, in this comparison actually the opposite holds (9:18).The optimal pressure for extracting the best flavor from espresso is 9 bars. In more affordable setups, where professional grinders are typically not used, pressurized portafilters may be employed to enhance the brew. However, in these cases, machine pressures are often increased to 15 bars or higher, which can deteriorate the espresso's flavor. Neither of the machines, especially the one with the higher pressure, is ideal for achieving the best espresso flavor.

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for weighing in!

[@outin.official]

Thanks for your recognition of Outin Nano! Hope you have a nice Outin Day~

[@NoraDunn]

Thank you too!

[@aurtisanminer2827]

Wtf does ‘half as light’ mean? Half the weight? Or twice the weight?

[@Archieconan]

I think they’re insinuating that they are both light, but because it’s half the size, it’s even lighter by half the weight.

[@fractalarbitrage]

Can't wait for a product that is electric and delivers picopresso quality, it is almost the same crema as cafes(if not better when the cafe isn't dialed) For me I find the pico miles ahead of anything , but I am optimistic that outin or wacaco makes an electric with pico quality I will snatch one up instantly. thanks.

[@ThorD4602]

Crema on the Nano didn't really look like crema, looked more like what you get from a pressurized basket.

[@NoraDunn]

Interesting. To be honest I'm not sure I know the difference then.

[@ThorD4602]

@@NoraDunn I don't know whether it was real crema or not, I'd have to see it and taste it. It just reminded me of Nespresso fake crema and others I've seen on cheap espresso machines

[@thechosenone9692]

Maybe it's just me, but the outin looks watery... the pico looked even more delicious.

[@NoraDunn]

The Pico definitely brewed a stronger cup.

[@thechosenone9692]

@@NoraDunn Interesting.. I was considering buying this because of the heating function. Trying to decide on a way to heat water for on the go outside of a microwave and a campstove is hard. Especially when you are looking for a specific temperature.

[@NoraDunn]

@@thechosenone9692 If you want to heat water perfectly "in the wild" then the Outin will do the trick!

[@alfredoerice4722]

I want the Picopresso please?

[@VB-by2cg]

This is perfect timing! I have been trying to decide between these exact products. Actually have both in my Amazon cart. Sold on the Outin. It's weirdly important for me to be able to keep getting ready in the morning while my espresso is brewing. I'm definitely not a ritual person 😅 Question: I've seen a few travel vloggers advise against taking coffee (ground or beans) through airport security to avoid additional scrutiny. Would using Nespresso pods be a better alternative?

[@NoraDunn]

I'm so glad you found this video just in time and it helped you decide! Yes, carrying ground coffee through security will likely get you pulled aside for additional scrutiny. BUT - so will the Nano. Because it's a cylindrical appliance, it shows up on the xray in a dodgy-looking way. So....just leave extra time and be prepared for the extra inspection. It doesn't phase me. But yes - probably the Nespresso capsules would at least get the coffee through without further inspection.

[@VB-by2cg]

​@@NoraDunnthanks for the discount code! Amazing that Outin will ship internationally AND to a US military address for FREE! Appreciate the heads up about screening. It's rare I don't get extra screening with all my electronics so one more will just further justify getting Fast Track in the Euro airports 🧳 Love that I will be able to take a few pods for short trips or buy espresso locally for longer trips.

[@NoraDunn]

@@VB-by2cg Exactly! I really like the versatility to use pods when I don't have a bag of ground coffee on-hand. Best of all worlds!

[@VB-by2cg]

@NoraDunn Random thought...have you ever tried to save time by taking it out of your luggage before the scanner? 🤔 I might try carrying it in my personal item along with my liquids, tablet, and kindle. Just put it all into one tray 🎒🧴💻 📥

[@NoraDunn]

@@VB-by2cg Great strategy! I thought of taking it out on my most recent flight, but I didn't. My bag got flagged for inspection, but when the guy got my tray and looked at the xray, he just shrugged and handed me my bag without looking in it. Maybe I had too much weird looking stuff for him to bother! LOL

[@silverbullet4055]

After that demonstration, I need to take a coffee break🫣.

[@NoraDunn]

😂

[@vivianlee5821]

Looks great, I will buy it!!!

[@NoraDunn]

Which one? (I'm curious)

[@vivianlee5821]

@@NoraDunn Nano, and you? Which one do you like?

[@NoraDunn]

@@vivianlee5821 Well, I have the Outin Nano, and I love its versatility.

[@Archieconan]

I would recommend the Picopresso as I have both and it’s definitely better and more consistent!

[@goingawayguide]

Hands down the Outin Nano, especially if your access to boiling water is limited. I have one and it goes everywhere and it isn't so big you can't do carry-on only with it.

[@NoraDunn]

Absolutely! I'm currently packing for a 3-month carry-on only trip, and my Nano is coming with me :-)

[@goingawayguide]

@@NoraDunn we love ours - even the bit of extra weight is so worth making that cup of espresso virturally anywhere!

[@outin.official]

Thank you so much! Hope you enjoy it!!!

[@samson2143]

Yeah.. what about that failure that keeps happening with the electronics? Reviews on Amazon claim this issue.

[@winexprt]

I was hoping for a "That's what she said!" insert @1:35

[@NoraDunn]

😂

[@Timberjagi]

So the Outin nano is cute but very disappointing in espresso. it's great for just a normal cup of coffee. But therefore there are already many other manufacturers in similar prices

[@NoraDunn]

Interesting. I found Outin to be more like espresso than coffee. I tried an Aeropress side-by-side with the Outin and they brewed very different cups.

[@4Runner123]

How fine does the grind need to be? Can you buy pre ground espresso coffee? Thanks very interesting.

[@NoraDunn]

Yes, you can get pre-ground espresso coffee. The brand you'll often find in grocery stores that is espresso-ready is either Lavazza or Illy. Alternately you can visit a coffee shop and buy beans and get them to grind them for espresso makers.

[@4Runner123]

@@NoraDunn thanks for info. I have a good coffee grinder but not fine enough for espresso.

[@NoraDunn]

@@4Runner123 Aw...too bad!

[@debbieelms-watkiss4742]

I was told that always go on the packed date and not the use by date . So I am going to check that out Funny enough I thought the nanopresso has a better creme than the new picopresso as I just can’t get the creme right but I won’t give up. Also I would take the picopresso on a long holiday and the pipamoka for trips up to a month as I love walking the streets of Europe sipping on my long black coffee. But but check out the pipamoka too best pick in my opinion in the wacaco range.

[@brian1675]

You would have a jet boil does not save weight because you have to have a way to boil water on a mountain like a jet boil

[@NoraDunn]

?

[@darylfortney8081]

Crema isn’t a good indicator of espresso quality

[@NoraDunn]

That is a great point - there are so many factors that make great espresso.

[@AOE5578]

I don't like to charge things and i don't like to press

[@gilliangallant6752]

How would you get boiling water in a hotel? Just sayin…

[@NoraDunn]

Easy! Many/most major hotel rooms have kettles. But you make a good point. If you're staying at a small/obscure/budget hotel, your room may not have a kettle. All the more reason to have the Nano. :-)

[@Renee_11]

I know some people who travel with a small induction heater. They pretty affordable, so that's one way.

[@NoraDunn]

@@Renee_11 Interesting!

[@debbieelms-watkiss4742]

Great video right up my alley. My husband and I saved $700 @ for 28 days on holidays. We bought a lightweight electric jug in Paris and made our coffees on the train , in hotels airports ect. Now I have both the nanoexpresso and new picopresso. I also have the pipamoka from wacaco and the areopress travel as I love the cup. I use the pipoexpresso at home as I haven’t a coffee machine but bake a porlex grinder. Saying all this. I love them all but the PiPomona is the easiest and you have. A big mug. Next holiday we will take the little jug and I will take the pipamoka for hubby and and the areopress travel cup for me and the nano vessel I bough 5 years ago to keep my Drink hot for takeaway We aim for 1kg total weight for this kit. It goes in hubbies bag as he has less stuff. Also I bought a few extra reusable pods for 5e pipamoka. So check out the pipamoka on you tube I have a few options and as they are well built they will last forever.

[@debbieelms-watkiss4742]

Whoops forgot to say I love the portaeresso but I can’t as yet get the grind right as yet. With the pipamoka I can have a long drink of coffee. It they are all good and better when you can save money on coffee and water on your holidays.

[@Archieconan]

Matt, you should’ve practiced your explanation of the Picopresso process and names of parts before making this video. You didn’t do it the justice it truly deserves. 😆 And Nora, the Nanopresso model before the Picopresso also has an adapter to put Nespresso capsules. WACACO 4 life! 😉

[@ToddBryantsr]

The Outin Nano also has a built in cup. The size difference is a wash because if you were going to have to take a portable stove you would easily equal the space and weight. Another thing is that I ride motorcycles and it's often that at the end of a long ride, my hands are sore -- it's nice to have the Outin Nano in these situations. I think the Wacaco Pipopresso is a nice piece of kit. The machining on it is brilliant but for most domestic travel for city dwellers and those who seldom leave the beaten path -- Outin wins.

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for weighing in, Todd! Great points.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

Y'all gotta tamp twice with the picopresso. Once to get the level, the second to actually compress the coffee

[@NoraDunn]

Great tip!

[@flyertx50]

I'll take the Outin. The process with the Picopresso is too long. With the Outin, you can still use and outside source to heat the water, as you have to do with the Picopresso, and get over 100 cups or shots of espresso quicker on the one charge.

[@AbuTaher-sn7xb]

Love it video

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks!

[@AdaptivePrep]

Would have loved the comparison be more feature/fact/use driven and not so perceptively biased. (More actual coffee brewing knowledge would have been more validating to the video... Ex. understanding of bar pressure appeared way off. 6-12 bars of pressure for espresso is where you want to be, ... the somewhat smug "20 bars" for the Outin... that's an absolute moot point, and 18 bars from the Pico is relevant (and arguable, but moot as well)... Additionally - crema is definitely a function of pressure, but is very heavily dependent of coffee off-roast time / co2 offgassing, etc. So not addressing this / keeping things actual/informative wasn't helping the video.) Just trying to be helpful - the video (esp with editing) just felt like a biased "VS battle" of inaccurate/irrelevant information, instead of a "what advantages are provided by each system"... Some additional points - swapping out the factory portafilter in the Picopresso with an IMS competition basket brings the Pico to another level for world-class espresso output. And I'm glad Matt at least *somewhat* addressed the quality of build and materials / cnc machining on the Pico - even though it was almost an afterthought at the end. The true separation / decision points between the two systems seems to be the Outin being able to provide / generate it's own hot water (at the expense of making sure it's charged), and ability to use capsules, vs the compact form factor (and phenomenal espresso output of the Pico, as well as the insanely wide variety of brewing variables and flavor outputs you can control if you understand proper coffee grind and extraction concepts - watch James Hoffman's channel and Lance Hendrick for more on all of this) I think what you're analysis is heavily missing though is understanding brewing variables as far as coffee output quality (grind size, quality of grinder, water temp, and pressure/time outputs). This comparison is simply missing so much discussion and detail, but I enjoyed it all the same.

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for the feedback and info!

[@matthewwilson9749]

9 bars of pressure is all you need. 20 is terrible.

[@NoraDunn]

Good to know.

[@jle92708]

I’m falling asleep watching the steps involved with wacacao… yeah outin it is. Get it done

[@NoraDunn]

Ha ha!

[@TheNomios]

Outin doesn't really do real espresso - it's pressurized and with tiiiiny basket xD But I have to admit it's far easier to use and don't require any knowledge, accesories and good grinder. Both fit different purpose :)

[@NoraDunn]

Well said about each having a different purpose. Outin is very convenient and multi-purpose, and can heat water without a power source. That's its superpower ;-)

[@tubher5819]

I dont know why yall wouldn't grind your beans fresh for this comparison.

[@NoraDunn]

Great point - but as ultralight travelers neither of us had a grinder. We did the next best thing in buying beans that were ground that morning.

[@tubher5819]

@NoraDunn that makes sense. Not to mention how expensive handgrinders can get.

[@sahanemmi2483]

Nano asla pratik degil sicak su yoksa veya suyun olmadigi bir yerde iseniz veya 2 kisiye hazirlamak gerekirse hep sorun

[@ruthquinto8284]

OMG. “This” is pure comedy 😂 Really!?! Not in a million years …. LOL

[@NoraDunn]

What not in a million years? Travel with a portable espresso maker?

[@omi6816]

outin is not true espresso, pico is, i see the value of the outin, but picopresso reigns supreme if we talk real espresso.

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks for weighing in!

[@uribove]

As a user experience review it's okey, but compared to actual barista's reviewing this there's a lot of small details missed etc or little mistakes in the explanation.

[@NoraDunn]

Thank you for your feedback.

[@MengHai-ti3nk]

loveit

[@NoraDunn]

Thanks!! :-)

[@adityaverma2698]

Pethatic no mention about taste or quality of the shot Shame how come she has 40k subs

[@NoraDunn]

Beats me. I'm obviously an untalented hack.

[@adityaverma2698]

Great topic but the video is useless, I am surprised with 40k subs no focus on the product we see their faces and the ceeling.😂😂😂

[@NoraDunn]

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the video.