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[@ImaginaryMdA]

Blair: "Elliot's not Hitler, there's no way." Voice over: Elliot was in fact Hitler.

[@RustyBucket2]

Jon is my absolute favourite. Clawing onto and attacking anyone for the most remote hint of fascism, whilst looking unbelievably fascist, whilst not being fascist was a highlight of BGC for me.

[@JonGracey69]

I'm helping!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That is like basically how to do soviet style communism. Enact a ridiculously restrictive dictatorship to protect people from fascism.

[@rpriske]

Jon is convincing me he is a fascist, even when I can see he isn't.

[@notenoughmice]

There were *several* moments when I was almost convinced that he was a fascist.

[@cactilainen4301]

Hes the most secret secret fascist in the game

[@EndParenthesis]

Would love to see you play more of this! One piece of constructive criticism if you do: it'd be nice if you had something like a 5 second reveal of everyones roles at the start of the game, but then hid them for the rest of it. That way the people who don't want to know your roles can look away and guess for themselves, but the ones who do want to know can still do so!

[@NoRollsBarred]

ADAM: That's a very good idea! If we do another Social Deduction game on BGC (and we will, don't worry), we'll do that next time x

[@EndParenthesis]

@@NoRollsBarred Looking forward do it!!

[@Romey301]

Ahh yes! I second this! Would love to see a part 2

[@mibbles2371]

@@NoRollsBarred another one would be names on screen attached to each person, I'm terrible with names and it's more fun to focus on the game rather than deduct who people are talking about

[@2Lazy4AName]

@@mibbles2371 fr

[@kev_whatev]

Adam rocking that “convict who was previously buried in concrete” shirt again

[@kingofthecommentsection8056]

He looks like he got sentenced to life in prison in a wes anderson movie

[@amyzhu6494]

I read this comment as the intro was playing so I was like “huh? What could that possibly look li- OH MY GOD” I practically did a spit take

[@totz_the_plaid9625]

Also, there are 11 fascist policy cards and 6 liberal policy cards. That's almost two-to-one odds in favor of fascism. The average hand should be FFL, but FFF is very plausible with LLF or LLL both being rare. I know this is an old video, but that's mathematics.

[@randomjunk1977]

Yeah, this is something that should really be emphasized to first time players. Fascist cards are most of the deck and triple fascist is not that unusual. If a Liberal or two come out early triple Fasicst is basically inevitable.

[@kayzeaza]

But that’s good. Because it forces liberal players sometimes to pass fascists policies. That way it’s not just the fascists passing them. It makes it a lot harder to see who really is a fascist

[@CHilla415]

poor Elliot having to sit there this whole video with the title "HITLER" labeled on them the entire time.

[@CHilla415]

Elliot played this brilliantly

[@themerovingian7154]

And whats wrong about it?

[@TheCelticKT]

"That's something a fascist would say." New Drinking Game Idea When Playing Secret Hitler.

[@TheProfProfessor]

Everyone: Thinks Adam is dodge Also everyone: accepts his nomination immediately after three fascist cards were played

[@e7venjedi]

Elliot being a pristine angel overrode everything. XD and the nonsense card draw giving fascists a ton of free wins?...

[@Veggieman87]

"Sorry, everyone, we're actually playing 'Oops, All Hitlers!', my mistake!"

[@xxxslash616xxx]

This has to be one of the most awkward games to hear others playing without any context. "I'M NOT HITLER!" shouts your roommate from their room.

[@marqueeungovernable6170]

Elliot's silence for the most part should feel like a sus alert.

[@zac5855]

See also: “I’m a terrible liar”

[@Phyrre56]

#1 rule of these social deduction/betrayer games: the good team has to do a lot of deduction to win, and that means talking. The bad team wants to move the game along as quickly as possible, because they have the advantage as long as the good guys don't put all the pieces together. Someone who is saying very little is likely a betrayer.

[@fixielle]

How about people silent by nature?

[@reaganharder1480]

@@Phyrre56 I regularly get targeted in social deduction games because I naturally am more of an observer until I have a solid line of rhetoric to explain why I think someone is sus, and thus I'll often get voted out before I spot anything because after 2 rounds of saying nothing because I haven't spotted a pattern yet, people are like "oh he's really quiet, that's sus"

[@FourthDerivative]

As a naturally quiet & reserved person, this is exactly why I hate playing social deduction games. I'm always in the crosshairs just for behaving like myself.

[@MezephelesArt]

Everyone being not suspicious of Elliott in the slightest while I saw the big old "Hitler" at the bottom of his screen was hilarious. Especially when he said he's a terrible liar.

[@Christian988.]

*Blair: Elliott is not Hitler that is no way.* me who can see everybody roles: *Famous last words Blair*

[@BadDayLp]

"I HAVENT SAID ANYTHING!" - Mr Davis, being accused of being a facist, Christmas 2020

[@nu-punkrants1551]

Oof

[@IslandPride316]

I HIGHLY Agree with Jon. I want more games of this.

[@Dave_ja_vu]

I'd happily watch a weekly series of this game. Great fun

[@hannah2729]

as a german person i would never actually buy this game and whip it out at board game nights but i love seeing people play it, definitely one of my favorite social deduction games

[@wombataldebaran9686]

As a German, I own this game and it is one of my favourite party social deduction games in the world. Always remember that the most dangerous fascists are the ones you think you know :)

[@glennmartin6492]

Don't they have a "Secret Stalin" version?

[@theaxer3751]

Why not? The rest of Europe is over it and is happily playing this game. And I presume you weren't even born back then, so no one is going to think you're an actual fascist just for owning this game. I enjoy playing this with German friends (although I have noticed that they have been Hitler an above average number of times 🤔😜) It is one of the best social deduction games out there, but if the theme is really putting you off, I can recommend The Resistance Avalon. It is a bit more complex but almost as good.

[@MusicBunny4595]

There’s a secret sith version, Star Wars themed

[@kimflux2998]

There's avalon, which is basically almost the same except it's medieval and it's knights going on quests 😊

[@EmmaBonn96]

Blair putting up her cat as leverage I kinda like that it happened to show this interaction

[@TainakaRicchan]

Was probably already pointed out, but according to the official rules, you are not supposed to talk about the policies, before the enacted policy is revealed. this might seem like a small thing, but actually chanegs quite a lot. Being allowed to talk during the draw phase of the policies, allows a fascist to communicate easily his allegiance to hitler, by saying something contradictory to the actual cards, before apssing them on "Sorry, got three fscist, but passing on one liberal and one fascist"

[@Dayvit78]

They'll learn. When they have more experience, they'll realize it's much better to follow the rules. It's much more balanced. They also make the mistake of accusing someone of being Hitler who's playing fascist cards. Hitler always plays good.

[@BadDayLp]

@@Dayvit78 *Autobahn intensifies*

[@xAsianish]

A bit late haha, but I actually think it doesn't matter in this case, since in 6-player SH, both Hitler and the other fascist know each other. This kind of signaling definitely matters with higher player counts I believe.

[@alchemicpink2392]

Jon is such a joy as a player in social deduction games, because he is always wrong in very entertaining ways.

[@barefootwanderer]

This immediately made me think of Totalbiscuit. Used to watch him, Jesse Cox, Dodger and their guests play it on a weekly basis.Delighted to see it on here :)

[@lavenderwalrus9875]

I genuinely still can't hear of superfight with out thinking of him.

[@57thorns]

The odds anyone playing SH should know: 6 blue and 11 red. The odds of getting 3 red in the first draw is: 11*10*9 / (17*16*15) = 24% This is actually quite common.

[@57thorns]

Six red in a row: 4% It can happen, and in this case we know it happened. This is really bad for the blue team because this means everyone will have to discard blue policies.

[@Firestar4041]

@@57thorns Like, assuming everyone told the truth (which honestly they could have, and also cause i have fun tracking this :x) Deck: (6/11) Adam: 3 fascists = (6/8) [0 - 1] John: 3 fascists = (6/5) [0 - 2] Elliott: 1/2 = (5/3) [1 - 2] Oliver: 2/1 = (3/2) [2 - 2] Blair: ?/? (dont think they mentioned their hands) = *reshuffle* (3/9) [3 - 2] Laurie: 3 fascists (3/6) [3 - 3] Adam: Hitler came into power, game over

[@michaell6324]

I've watched Blair's face at 41:20 more times than I can count. Art.

[@SuprSBG]

LOL

[@ThrawnIsAlive]

Super happy to see you all play this! Also can we talk about how over Blair's gotten in a few weeks time? *Insert Daniel Bryan joke here*

[@jimmyp4024]

By the way thrawn is alive

[@ishanaprabhakar7542]

22:03 Looking straight into the other's eyes saying "i'm not a fascist" with a giant FASCIST sign below him really tickles my funny bone

[@Firestar4041]

"Are you Hitler?" *hides mustache with hand "Nein.Why would you even think such a thing?"

[@Shavinderyt]

I love these kind of games. Really shows how far a group of friends is willing to crumble to win! Also I think this game broke Jon

[@JonGracey69]

It did!

[@cameronchristie5319]

This is my favorite board game EVER

[@3DAS3]

I never thought I would enjoy watching others play board games. This was really entertaining.

[@TrueNorthRaider]

I get the feeling that Adam wants this to be the spiritual successor to Wil Wheaton's Table Top (which would be grand). Obviously, lockdown has caused massive changes, but I'm looking forward to what he has planned once he can get everyone In a studio setting.

[@pouletnoir4441]

This video should be the poster child for Secret Hitler: superb play-through!

[@Ace_Keira]

My favourite board game! Very happy to see ya'll play this 😍

[@johansvanborg5870]

Laurie dropping Dad's army and here I sit humming "Who do You think You are kidding Mr.Hitler..."

[@ewanmacdonald728]

Been waiting for this one, I adore this game so much both watching others suffer and doing it myself

[@kittypryde571]

Now THIS is a way to spend a socially distanced Christmas! Thank you guys so much for the amazing content!

[@sharmansinge3214]

We definitely need another game of this in the future

[@EvilFerret55]

I can't believe I just found this channel. I love watching people play card/board games. Let's see more! (Also, Secret Hitler is great.)

[@invisibleabi999]

It's so weird to see this played by people who aren't counting the policy cards, my friends in college get very into this lol

[@TheFinalChapters]

@@KingDomsKingdom85 Quite the contrary, actually. If you aren't putting every President under a magnifying glass, the fascists will almost always win simply because there's so few liberal policy cards in the second half. You can't afford to have a fascist President throwing away a liberal card and then killing a liberal. The fact that they elected 7 Presidents in a row shows how novice they are at the game...

[@alharron2145]

Aww, Blair's shock at the revelation was so endearing.

[@mezzaros5534]

She looked so pissed as soon as it was revealed.

[@adamgough9333]

Excellent stuff. I hope we do get that return match, so Jon gets a chance at revenge. PS. Elloitt is dodge ... and, turns out, a pretty good liar! Not a single horn in sight! 😁

[@sujatromukhopadhyay767]

Elliot owned that game...so good!

[@names_are_useless]

Some of it was luck: Laurie getting 3 Fascists 2nd to last turn, and Blair having been forced to play a Fascist Card Turn 2, were the big kickers. Had Laurie gotten a Liberal the 2nd to last turn, Liberals would have only been 1 point away from victory. It didn't help that the Liberals basically voted Yes to every vote: once you get in Hitler Winning range, if you suspect either person being voted for is Fascist/Hitler, vote No, which they should have as Adam was President. For most it was their first game I think?

[@MinjaTeh]

Adam and Elliot could not have gotten luckier

[@duncanmason1644]

If there is ever merchandise must have one with do not underline me 😂😂

[@weissbelladonna]

AAAAAAAAAAAA I’m so happy! This is a great Christmas present! Thank you So much!

[@jeroeninc7716]

Lads, this needs a rematch😁! This is a great game. It took me while to get the objective at hand, but this is so enjoyable. Is this also available in podcast form? This would be a great listen during work.

[@VanGTO49]

But next time I’d love to guess what everyone is instead of knowing right off the bat

[@supermonkey321]

I'm early in watching this, but as someone who owns the game, I'd like to mention that the odds are actually very good of getting 3 fascist policy cards. When I play, it happens a lot because there are more fascist than liberal cards for this very reason.

[@SV-yo6nq]

YESSSSSSS. Now you just need to play in a bind and small world and this'll be the best series on youtube

[@akashdamodaran7433]

Its alright Blair... even though you trusted Elliott you're still awesome ❤️❤️

[@MachoMuxGrandeeSavage]

Accidentally bought "Oops! All Hitlers"

[@57thorns]

There are a few metas in this game that I encountered, the stupides is that the first two proposals should be voted down to get more information about who would pick what chancellor. Which of course means, you explicitly just pick the next person in line and state this before hand. This gains exactly zero information but means the games takes longer to actually start. If a majority of the players propose this, I will declare beforehand that I will vote against the first three proposals. If the red team are stupid enough to use this, they will out themselves on the third round. So the second meta is the first chancellor should be the person on your right, as they are furthest from becoming President. All of these metas are declared _before_ you get a role of course.

[@bigc765]

Me and my friends play this game all the time!!!! Its a great party game and one of my faves! It gets very very intense

[@jaimann9913]

Elliot dominated this game

[@VanGTO49]

Best and only Christmas present and I’m super happy for it!!

[@FinnMcRiangabra]

For what it's worth, the most important role of the game is probably: Neither the President nor the Chancellor can say anything or use facial expressions to try to say anything about the cards that they drew or received. They can both lie, tell the truth, and be as histrionic as they want after the policy is put into play, but until then they are required to be stone faced. They break that rule right off.

[@FinnMcRiangabra]

FYI, other rules that are often gotten wrong are: When any set of President and Chancellor are voted in, the "failed vote" tracker re-sets to zero. This one is really important. The main thing that the non-hidden villain team gets wrong in these types of games is they do not fail the vote on teams enough. Secondly, when the President gets to choose the next President, the turn order resets after that next President's turn to whoever would normally be President after the choosing President. The turn order does not just skip to the chosen next President and go from there. Read the rules people. It is a great game. It works better when played properly.

[@matheuscabral9618]

how is that the most important rules of the game? If they’re gonna say it anyways what’s the difference of saying right away? It makes no difference

[@FinnMcRiangabra]

@@matheuscabral9618 Because a President role acting out on the cards that they are dealt poisons the well for what the chancellor does. You appear to be unfamiliar with the concept of "framing." What rule do you think is more important, other than game-breaking rules like: don't show the cards that you have or don't play a random policy?

[@matheuscabral9618]

@@FinnMcRiangabra what? You’re gonna talk about the cards anyways, what’s the difference of saying it afterwards

[@FinnMcRiangabra]

@@matheuscabral9618 The most important part of the game is the information economy. If the President gives information to the Chancellor when they should not, that breaks the delicate information balance. Are you one of those players who waits until others have shown their vote cards to decide how you vote?? Because that is another big fail that people do. The vote for governments must be made by all players, locked in, then shown. Otherwise the information economy is broken.

[@domomitsune5920]

This is a game I would have loved to play with my family if this had existed when I was a kid. Screw Monopoly, give me this game. I might suck at chance of rolling dice in strategy for buying property, but it wouldn't come to screwing over players by making policy decisions, I am good at that. I quite enjoyed this video, by the way.

[@xavabhinav]

Oli was left speechless at the end there.

[@dibils]

i only recently started to check out these vids, this was my fav. so good

[@Tysto]

This game shouldn't have a German theme. Hitler didn’t keep his policies secret. It should have an AMERICAN theme.

[@StillAdamClark]

That was top quality entertainment, hope to see more social deduction games soon.

[@polandiumi5211]

The screen out of context is really funny

[@charlesedwards2856]

Adam’s response to Blair saying she’s happy to be playing with friends...so good and sounds 100% like what my friends and I would say to each other during our game nights. 🤣🤣🤣

[@rhettboy1]

Masterfully played by Elliott

[@Firestar4041]

I think the deck is something like: 11 fascist cards, and 6 liberal cards So it is likely to just get screwed over by the draw Added; cards not used/passed are discarded till the deck runs out, or cant draw 3, then everything is reshuffled So Blair's turn would have caused the deck to get reshuffled, leaving a bad 3/9 odds for Laurie

[@moltresjrcountdowns]

Godwins Law: The Musical

[@ryanlittlewood1632]

Really fun video! Would love to see you guys play this again

[@JujitsuJoystick]

Ooft the KZbin algorithm is gonna have a field day with this one.

[@afp75]

that beer garden background is Busch Gardens Williamsburg's Octoberfest

[@curtisberard7831]

During the votes I always said, "Ein, zwei, drei" before showing. German for 1, 2, 3. Seemed fitting. First time everyone at the table were like "what?" After thst they *expected* me to say it. Ine time I forgot and were all looking at me wanting Lol

[@richiealbright661]

we need a second game

[@Nsinger998]

Secret Hitler: Where instead of not knowing who got you a gift; You don't know who got you killed!

[@habibullahnishat8946]

Waiting for 3 hours 💕

[@jacobboaden2213]

I reckon everyone came for Adam, and is staying for Blair. Oli is low key hilarious though

[@CEJRAID]

I think the watch alongs for secret hitler are generally better when you don’t reveal people’s identities until the end

[@KFP_Prophet]

Ironic thing about the dog murder joke, is that Hitler was actually super pro animal rights and welfare.

[@sumelar]

It's really funny how the best strategy in this game is for hitler to stay quiet and not do anything, the exact opposite of real life.

[@hurobiont1054]

How about a home rule twist? Nazis and Communists as separate factions. Nazis have the purge policy. This will lead to A) The hilarity of Communists and Fascists having to band together. B) Reflects history, whereby the Nazis purged other fascists like the austrofascists and tje strasserites.

[@benjaminrosa1418]

John, Blair and Elliot in Quizzlemania!!! pretty please?

[@weissbelladonna]

They’re not wrestling fans, Adam has said they’d have a bad time

[@bergman864]

@@weissbelladonna Can't be any worse than Oli. 😄

[@xxPenjoxx]

Superb playing! Poor Jon

[@mmoses2991]

This was great. Would love to see another game of this

[@MrBrknsyt]

I live for these kinds of videos.

[@NaThingSerious]

I think it would either make this game so much worse or so much more interesting if the participants couldn’t talk and so there would be no lying or bluffing. If someone passes a facist card there would be no way of knowing whether they only had facist cards or if they chose a facist card, only the president and chancellor would know. It would make the game longer I feel so you would need more cards to win but it would make it more strategic as well I think.

[@darrylatkins3444]

If you have the technology to put faction tags for the players I assume you have the technology to add name tags. That would have been really helpful.

[@clpearson991]

They gathered no useful info for deduction in this social deduction game XD

[@Firestar4041]

Yea, they . . . they dont seem great at that

[@lindseyharvey7285]

I enjoyed this so much.

[@BMac2927]

VENGEANCE FOR JON!!!

[@JonGracey69]

YES

[@BigUncleStunna]

Wow that last 4 minutes was intense af

[@WaltherVonDerVogelweide_1312]

These need to be longer

[@ericshepperd4823]

That was incredible!!’

[@Hellnagel82]

I could watch this for 10 hours.

[@johnnyb.jabroni983]

O mama that was great

[@BoBtheMule]

Try out Blood on the Clocktower if you like social deduction games. It's like Mafia or Werewolf... but better.

[@christophermalabanan3850]

Play more SECRET HITLER! More videos please! 😅

[@EmmaBonn96]

I always thought this was just a reskin of resistance But the idea that as more fascist policies get passed the president and chancellor become more important It adds that nice pacing element

[@Daggerleep]

Wonderful episode.

[@burningheartphotography9752]

We need another game this was fantastic.

[@russkuksin8782]

Hands down the best social deduction game.

[@oliverlemley9343]

I would like to clarify in the opening, german for absolutely not is actually absolut nicht no nien

[@marcelmundinar]

while president and chancellor are selecting policies, there must be total silence and no discussion.

[@e7venjedi]

What in the world was that card draw getting straight 3 reds so much?... Wonder what the odds on that are. If it's that common, maybe Ollie has to give one red and blue to Blair and risk it to be able to draw some blues jeez.

[@oz_jones]

There are 11 red cards and blue cards. So, pretty high

[@jackshadowbrowse]

I couldn't get through the accents in the first few minutes, so whenever they said "you look dodge" I thought they were saying "you look dutch"