North Korean defectors shown dragged back across the border from South Korea

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On July 13, 2022, South Korea’s Unification Ministry released photographs of two North Korean fishermen being dragged across the border from South to North Korea. At the time of the 2019 deportation, the government of then-president Moon Jae-in called the fishermen “dangerous criminals”, who had killed 16 fellow shipmates in a fight over an abusive captain before the ship crossed the sea border. The current South Korean president has revisited repatriation cases in a recent show of support to defectors. The UN has also said South Korea likely violated the men’s rights.
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[@ligmaballs2022]

I 'like' how the UN condemns actions they view as wrong but then they don't do anything at all. Every. Single. Time.

[@sleepyrasta14820]

Because it's just one big talking shop and one big joke of an organisation

[@Nathan-eu6tm]

What are they supposed to do? Send a peacekeeping mission to SK?

[@barnred8887]

League of Nations flashback 😔

[@Sunny-hc1bf]

UN provides countries a place where they can sit and talk instead of going into war whenever something happened. UN itself doesn't have much power over other countries other than condemning them.

[@willylao5430]

U.N. is just a humongous debating club. So useless!!

[@chiichii8217]

It serves them right. Imagine killing 16 innocent fishermen and trying to get protection from the government. Absolutely sickening.

[@Kai-kk4ys]

Agreed

[@kamui6780]

what if he didn't do it?

[@crazycheeseful]

@@kamui6780 who killed them then 🤣

[@amierasycap4870]

@@kamui6780 this is not kdrama

[@nikolaievans2432]

The people he killed are braindead and brainwashed

[@welstnitmere3583]

Here is the full story: 19 North Korean men were out on a fishing boat. 3 of them killed the boat's captain because he treated them harshly, the remaining 15 protested and were killed by the trio one by one. They hadn't done those actions with the intention to defect. After the killings, they sailed their boat back to north Korea, only to see 1 of the their own being detained by north Korean police. That's when the 2 remaining men got back on their boat to sail to South Korea. They escaped to South Korea to escape from the consequences of their actions, not to defect!! Serves them right! Edit: since a lot of ppl are wondering how the story got out, so.. Based on the BBC article, after escaping, the North Koreans themselves told everything to the South Korean police. I'm assuming they had a guilty conscience, but thought SK would be more lenient. Also, I can't post links to sources. Anyone calling the whole story fake before doing any research, please search up the keywords, don't be a brainded 👍

[@willylao5430]

Three people killed fifteen!?? Seriously?

[@aerohk]

How did they killed 15? Should have joined south Korean special forces

[@pogchamp9746]

Serve their right? Idk they look pretty tragic. They already treated harsh by their captain and the other 15 crew protest because they fight back. Maybe that's not the truth story but if it's the truth, they don't have many option on the first time.

[@manz007]

@@pogchamp9746 But to be honest who told this story ..... Was someone else on board the boat or they just spilled the beans for some reason.

[@resurgingflame]

@@manz007 they're literally captured. High chance they confessed after being investigated.

[@pepsodentvanila]

He killed his 16 fishermen fellow and the UN only concern his "human rights" ? What about those victim's basic human rights to live and stay alive ? Hypocrite

[@ugly717]

Well the UN believes China is the best voice for freedom and human rights. You can't trust their judgment.

[@AsianEspionage]

A wise fictional character once said "Higher ups are just a buncha hypocrites."

[@stardust2531]

UN is nothing but another money laundering organizations.

[@nanwanwon95]

UN is trash. they intervene to my country's activities

[@spreadpositivityandlove.9849]

UN always cares the right of Criminals and Killers.

[@grandiora]

Is it really correct to care about the "rights" of someone who killed 16 other lives in order to get ahead in their life?

[@b.sorger5189]

Yes it is.

[@fask1851]

@@b.sorger5189 so if a person lets say sexuslly assaulted someone, like per say if you had a daughter, even then? Or would that have been personal?

[@javalmoria8284]

no, because hes a selfish murderer who killed his shipmates and someone who cares only about himself,

[@mw5727]

Of course it's not, Kim is gonna serve him right 😂

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

@@fask1851 Yes. Human rights exist to guarantee a due process. Due process exist to guarantee that noone faces an unfair process, to stop abuse in the justice system, the fabrication of charges and evidence, and above all to stop torture. When I defend human rights I do it not because I think people is innocent, but because I want everyone to face a fair process so justice can be truly served. Now, when it comes to the fishermen I don't know what else could have been done. The situation between the two Koreas is pretty tense as it is.

[@afghans0ldier]

He killed 15 innocent fisherman of that country. So he has no right to sit his foot in that country!

[@ecclesiasticman4417]

He killed more people than that.

[@cryptospartan7546]

This is a story from 2019 and probably even a fake story back then...

[@materliliorum]

Nor in any other country that doesn't want him

[@durian111]

@@cryptospartan7546 just cuz you failed at researching doesn't mean other too.

[@georgebrantley776]

No, 3 North Korean fishermen killed 16 other North Korean fishermen.

[@Indrakusuma_a]

I think the majority here agree that those 2 men deserve that. Most of those people who said they are fighting for Human Rights, are actually nothing more than clowns who care nothing for the actual Human Rights people deserve.

[@Jackson_Christopher_Cross]

They’re mentally moronic.

[@bitmes2910]

They took the lives and rights of 16 people yet we are suppose to care about them ?

[@bitmes2910]

Should murders have human rights ? I don’t care for their rights, off them

[@Nanageopolitics]

@@bitmes2910 I'm shocked

[@0predelenie]

Clown logic: Human life

[@romawar]

It's actually heart-warming how South didn't use them for propaganda, but made the fair decision to return the criminals to DPRK

[@C4rnee]

Bruh, I think you are mixing them up. North Korea is the one which uses propaganda like mad, not South Korea.

[@brendon1689]

@@C4rnee yeah because only north korea has propaganda 🙄

[@moddedinkling4168]

@@C4rnee It doesn't mean South Korea doesn't have propaganda. The SK side of the DMZ plays K-Pop and various other genres, but they only do it for a few hours of the day (compared to NK doing it for nearly the entire day).

[@apollo1694]

@@moddedinkling4168 Propaganda is the use of false information to promote a cause. Korean pop music is not false information, it's not even information.

[@moddedinkling4168]

@@apollo1694 Propaganda isn't exclusive to spreading false information. It's moreso manipulation than simply giving false information in the sense that music can attract a lot of people.

[@robertw1800]

I agree with south Korea. Why on earth would you want a mass killer in your country if you can prevent it? That makes perfect sense to me.

[@thejatangamer_1877]

They should be jailed in SK SK claims to give all North Korean citizens refuge and South Korean citizenship Also they wouldn't be roaming free in SK, instead they would've gotten life imprisonment or something

[@intrex9828]

@@thejatangamer_1877 does SK have a death penalty?

[@jinthehanakji2864]

@@intrex9828 Yes, we have one

[@jakesmall8875]

It was self defense The trio tried to escape and their 16 coworkers in the fishing ship tried to stop them They fought to the death and the trio won They were escaping a communist dictatorship They basically punished them and sent them back to North Korea to be publicly executed for the crime of leaving a country that’s just a giant concentration camp

[@robertw1800]

@@jakesmall8875 You honestly think this trio outmatched 16 people? You honestly think that these 16 people didn't even think of surrendering themselves after so many or their friends died? Seems like you're taking the story the killers gave to heart and fully trust it. Your first statement made zero sense. These guys aren't Bruce Lee.

[@AndorranStairway]

What is there to condemn? Why should South Korea process these criminals? They were North Korean, and they killed *16* people? And sending them back to their country is a violation of human rights?? Wow

[@purpleglamour9089]

It is what it is

[@MajinBuu-oo3vn]

The un is braindead.

[@yty1941]

I mean to be fair extradition is a complex issue

[@kubli365]

Why is human rights always invoked for criminals? This sounds like a legitimate case to extradite. Are all extradition not okay for them or are they hypocrites?

[@bertberw8653]

Why wouldn't it be? Aren't they humans?

[@derpking3970]

I think the huge thing people are forgetting here is that these men were most likely tortured after they got sent back. Yes, they’re murderers, but have you considered that in most democratic countries, murderers at the very least go through the legal process and sentenced? They sit to rot in jail or prison. In North Korea, you go through a “legal process” and get tortured and hanged. Your family is also likely to suffer the same fate. Rotting in prison for years is one thing. Having the last few months of your life be purely torture is something entirely different.

[@objectivist2963]

Humans writes should change its name to criminal rights, because protecting someone's rights who has grossly violated multiple peoples rights is no a humanitarian act, but a criminal act. Natural law or human rights law states: violating the rights of another person will be met by equal retalitory force by legal authority to protect the rights of others and provide justice to compensate the victim. In this case I believe this to be an equal demonstration of retalitory force and just compensation to the victims. Human rights watch is wrong for upholding the rights of criminals who do not respect or care about the rights of others.

[@aaronlimeuchin7352]

@@derpking3970 no one cares. They committed crimes in their own waters, so they deserved to get hauled back to North Korea. It is not our place to judge the North Korea judicial system and whatever law they had. Why not question USA's lobg time buddy, Saudi Arabia? USA did not question the human rights violation and the syariah law in Saudi Arabia which did utilize torture as a punishment method. No offense, those in democratic countries should kept their business to themselves first and foremost, rather than poking their noses in other countries business.

[@drprtk2904]

@@bertberw8653 No , They are monsters.

[@agps4418]

You lose your human rights when you violated others' rights

[@georgebrantley776]

Then these are not rights anymore. They're privileges.

[@agps4418]

@@georgebrantley776 yes, if according to your problematic definiton of rights.

[@jccb1124]

No you do not. It's called human rights. Not non-criminal rights. You have these rights because you are human. That's it.

[@ketchup901]

Wrong. That is not how it works.

[@thechoku9765]

violated men`s rights? of course, like they did when they kills 16 of their shipmates

[@bitmes2910]

Why should we care about the rights of these murderous. They do not have this empathy for innocent people but they do for these lowlife

[@darussankarat8195]

Stop execution because of that is violated human right Every human being has the right to live, but if he commits a crime, he should only be punished by imprisonment, not savagery.

[@thechoku9765]

@@darussankarat8195 nice joke man

[@darussankarat8195]

@@thechoku9765 becareful! INEQUALITY OF THE SAME GENDER ♂️≠♂️ please be respectful

[@darussankarat8195]

@@thechoku9765 inequality of the same gender Is injustice Rich men have opportunity higher than poor men Rich men have leadership opportunities higher than poor men What other man had the same opportunity as Antonio? We both think this is same-gender injustice. Other men have not equal with antonio guteres. And if the problem is not solved, Antonio will become the next corpse. The rest of the men must not sit with the powerful or listen to the authority until the rest of the men are on equal footing with those in power, especially the men in power.

[@cr8416]

UN calling it a violation of human rights but proceed to not bat an eye of him killing other 16 shipmates..

[@warrior9694]

South Korea, did the right thing. UN needs to seriously stop condemning actions of S.K., without properly understanding the true nature of S.K.’s reason for doing this.

[@Pinkbattlewolf]

He killed 16 men and all they cared about is "his right"? So maybe we should care about the right of the guy who killed shinzo abe

[@bitmes2910]

We have come to the point where we care more about the rights of murderous then innocent people

[@thejatangamer_1877]

They should be jailed in SK SK claims to give all North Korean citizens refuge and South Korean citizenship Also yeah the killer of Abe was given punishment, but wasn't deported to NK

[@amossutandi]

well they killed north koreans who didn't want to defect, so that's ok.

[@schyracollbrande1900]

In Philippines, criminals have more rights than victims. To the point people started thinking CHR is the protector of Criminals.

[@jackylook]

Here in the US. Criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.

[@moosha786]

If he was a citizen they had no right deporting him but trial him where he had committed the crime, if he wasn't a citizen then deporting him is the right thing. He murdered 16 people it isn't simple.

[@hendrasutrisno4191]

Correct me if i am wrong... but isnt both SK and NK claimed to be 1 korea... so... he is "citizen" of "korea"

[@isarainie4ever]

But North Korean is born with South Korean citizenship

[@zap296]

@@hendrasutrisno4191 No Nk and Sk are divided and not unified under 1 korea. He is only a citizen of North Korea

[@zap296]

@@isarainie4ever u crazy bro?

[@hendrasutrisno4191]

@@zap296 yes it is divided(i think everyone knows that) but isnt that both claiming to be true korea?

[@xyzconsultingarvr3ddesign8]

Peoples rights should never be violated, but the second you decide to take innocent life's, you are not a person anymore. Not sure why people fight so much about treating criminals that commit horrendous crimes like normal people! They're not

[@Al-isthatyou]

bingo!

[@oibaf879]

i'm sorry but it doesn't work like that

[@randomnobody8713]

And there's clowns here who are actually protecting them

[@kpp28]

@@oibaf879 why don't you go to North Korea instead of him then.

[@oibaf879]

@@kpp28 actually i think that since we all know that they'd be executed in north korea, south korea should have somehow defended their basic human rights (such as the right to live). I don't mean to say they didn't do something horrendous, but I believe they should have been punished following south korean laws

[@kenx9984]

They were murderers!! Just sent them to the UN since they are so caring. 🤣

[@thejatangamer_1877]

They should be jailed in SK SK claims to give all North Korean citizens refuge and South Korean citizenship

[@ms.chuisin7727]

@@thejatangamer_1877 They didn't say they want criminals like these. Apparently UN said they wanted them and they should not be sent back. Welp... should've told SK earlier and go get em

[@tl1539]

@@thejatangamer_1877 They committed killing on NK land (boat considers land in law), they get punished by NK law

[@SOGONGDONG]

A time where north korea’s violation of human right actually comes in handy!!!

[@fertilerevitilizer7833]

Such a cruel world. It doesn't have to be this way. Man is flawed.

[@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622]

What is cruel the men being deported? I think they deserve it knowing that Kimmy will or have dealt with them accordingly. How or what is cruel?

[@fajarkurniawan9434]

That's why I prefer woman than man

[@mrpeace8820]

@@fajarkurniawan9434 then hate yourself since you are man

[@Smokie1523]

Nature is just as cruel. Life is harsh.

[@blaqstar]

dude, he killed 16 people. don't you think the family of 16 victims want justice back home.

[@lingyingli1563]

From what I read...3 people killed the boat captain cause the boat captain was being harsh to them...but killed??? That is crime already...not to mention the trio killed other 16 Fisher man just cause they didn't agree what the trio did? That is pure disgusting,so just cause of that the trio killed them all,2 got caught while the duo run away,nasty

[@fufufuuwu9927]

They aren’t defectors, they are criminals…

[@DieGurkenfresser]

Who only left for south korea to escape a harsh punishment ..... Their own fault 🤷

[@S.S635]

They aren't be punished its just you

[@gotohyoshihisa3971]

Technically South Korea should have tried (and most likely have executed) the criminals, since they don't recognize the sovereignty of North Korea, therefore they have no 'North Korea' to repatriate them to. They would've still remained guilty and tried though. Either execution or life-sentence would've been unavoidable.

[@S.S635]

@@gotohyoshihisa3971 Bro

[@S.S635]

@@gotohyoshihisa3971 That's all you have in your mind killing/execution they even got executed according to a kctv newspaper they were welcome back to North Korea but its mostly likely they just got a job

[@CureMW2]

Not saying this is the case but after watching seaspiracy or something similar, from what I remember workers can be treated as literal slaves when they are on the fishing boats around those waters. There's no one to regulate them when out on sea and they are at mercy to the ones in charge. Anyone that doesn't take orders can be killed and when the boat comes back the captain can just say they accidentally fell off the boat or something.

[@omniminokyo2]

So!!! 15 crew members that worked the same jobs as you deserve to be killed too?

[@fungames24]

Yes, they returned and said the captain and the rest all fell off the boat. Then it got suspicious because it's quite rare for people to fall off a boat.

[@nggaknormal]

@@fungames24 well, 16 experinced fishermen fell off the boat does sounds suspicious

[@arielortiz5643]

The UN has some nerve to call on South Korea for deporting them. What did they expect them to do? At this point, they are nothing more than a joke. An expensive, intrusive and rude joke nobody asked for.

[@kookie175]

UN can ask any of their membership country to 'adopt' these two criminals IF THEY HAVE SO MUCH COMPLAINTS. Lets see how many acutally raises their hands to take them in.

[@tedyi8588]

This is currently brought to surface not by UN but the South Korean government. Current president is willing to take political revenge on the former by appealing to emotions like this and I gotta say it is disgusting

[@georgebrantley776]

The accused were not granted a fair trial. Even the Nazis got a fair trial at Nuremberg.

[@askerman3]

That's the flawed human rights for you. A murderer can get away from death penalty because it's violation without realizing what about the rights of person he killed. Foolish logic. Every action has reaction. It's that simple.

[@VeganDoris]

They wouldn’t have gotten away from the death penalty. South Korea has the death penalty.

[@jakesmall8875]

they were trying to escape broth Korea and their coworkers attacked them It was 3 v 16 The 3 won I’m assuming guns were involved cuz idk how else 3 win against 16

[@georgebrantley776]

@@jakesmall8875 They apparently used some blunt force weapons and killed them 3 by 3.

[@mariajason3547]

So he killed 16 people and run away to South Korea.....mmmh

[@komekko373]

The order is wrong.

[@mariajason3547]

@@komekko373 how?it says he killed 16 shipments and crossed into South Korea seas ...... How is the order wrong?

[@komekko373]

@@mariajason3547 He killed 16 south Koreans.

[@fangongdalu]

@@mariajason3547 that "say" was just a false report of our previous government. there wasnt any evidence of a crime, but they just sent them anyway cuz north korean government said that.

[@missk1697]

​@@fangongdaluLikely story

[@EarlKuOnly]

he killed 16 of his ship mates... and they still care bout his rights?

[@NaenaeGaming]

While I haven’t yet taken a look at any sources, some have stated that the murders were not in an attempt to defect, rather the North Koreans chose to sail to the south in order to avoid the punishment brought by the DPRK (whether that may involve public execution or the killing of the criminal’s family in this case, I do not know). If this is indeed the case, while unfortunate in the opinion of some, considering the major human rights violations that North Korea is known for (such as the ones previously mentioned), the deportation of these individuals is not unwarranted.

[@credulousmaister5530]

“You’re not gonna believe this. They killed 16 Czechoslovakians. Guys were interior decorators.”

[@anaispersephone6041]

umm I thought they forced an innocent person back to NK. He killed 15 people and SK suddenly "violated" his rights for dragging him back. Nah you do the crime, do the time

[@JackAss-xo3gp]

Do the time? Man's probaby been executed by now

[@Nathan-eu6tm]

@@JackAss-xo3gp Well, lucky them, not much time spend in a NK jail

[@fasthighwaydriver59732]

@@JackAss-xo3gp this north korean trolls dont care. Most who commeting supporting to execute this fisherman's for killing 16 supporters of dictatorship are chinese troll or north korean trolls

[@infinitelifeline2432]

They lost their rights when the took their shipmates rights to life.. an eye for an eye

[@georgebrantley776]

Even Nazis were given a trial at Nuremberg. Why shouldn't these fishermen get trials?

[@chuunyeong]

"violating the man's rights" He killed people. He violated his victim's right to live 💀

[@C-eo1rt]

What evidence do you have that indeed happened? Apart from North Korea's version of events. No investigation by the South was done to verify that this was true.

[@materliliorum]

Excuse me, are we talking about mutiny? That very act of sedition which deserves a death sentence in the US and in many other countries? Are you suggesting that the now-president of South Korea considers it profitable for his country to release into his country people who just killed their 16 fellow fishermen, thus endangering sea traffic around the ship and showing themselves to be highly dangerous criminals?

[@wistbluesanime1637]

SK : Welcome defectors! How did you come here? NK : Killed 16 people otw just to escape. SK: Goodbye

[@fangongdalu]

All of this happened because of the pro NK left wing former President Moon. NK said 2 fishermen were violent criminals who killed 16 people. They said fishermen fled to SK for fear of punishment. However this is one sided claim by NK. There is no evidence. The territorial clause of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea states that the Republic of Korea shall be the Korean Peninsula and its annexes. In addition, it is stated that North Korea is an illegal group that rejected the legal order of the Republic of Korea and occupied part of the country without permission. In other words, North Koreans also potential South Korean people. If North Koreans express their intention to defect , South Korea must accept if they are murderers. And if it is investigated and found to have committed a crime, they should be punished according to the laws of the Republic of Korea. Everywhere in the world, criminals are punished according to the laws of the country, not banished from the country. However, Moon Jae In forcibly repatriated the two fishermen without proper investigation. The Ministry of Justice also said this was not legally correct, but the Moon Jae In ignored it. The Moon Jae In asked the Defense Ministry to cooperate in repatriating the two fishermen, but it refused. He then contacted the police commandos under the Ministry of Public Administration and Security for help. Police commandos were sent in without knowing what they were doing. Hours after the two fishermen were repatriated, Moon Jae In sent a personal letter to Kim Jong-un asking him to revisit South Korea. He is the worst president in the history of the Republic of Korea.

[@Spit.M80]

He killed a lot of people , 16 of them. Why give mercy for something rightly punished?

[@TheStandardBearer]

He murdered humans and tried to escape punishment.

[@valeria-militiamessalina5672]

They got themselves into a pickle but it was predestined, self-undoing is such a cruel hand to be dealt but karma will inflict upon anyone whose debts must be paid immediately. We should all take heart in the fact that we must and will pay for everything in this world, even if sometimes only through our own deaths. There are still many criminals at large who have committed heinous crimes and they think they are sheltered and free, but make no mistake there is something else awaiting, even if it's not punishment in its human form.

[@cruzin4406]

Fisherman killed 16 shipmates, UN: south korea violated fishermans right. How about the rights of those 16 shipmates that were killed? UN hipocracy to the highest level It's funny how they always side to the criminals

[@georgebrantley776]

Why do you assume the 16 don't have rights? All 19 of them have rights.

[@keonxd8918]

@@georgebrantley776 no rights for a murderer in my eyes

[@fandigladion7051]

He should get punishment for killing entire crew

[@807800]

So, he "killed 16 shipmates" before crossing into South Korea. Well, what did you expect.

[@carr16k]

Every time I hear or read "human rights activists", I just can't help but burst out laughing at the irony of it.

[@Scaleyboy40]

Without human rights activities, what’s to stop the local government from infringing on yours? Talk about supporting causes against your own interests 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@sionc1372]

@@Scaleyboy40 is he wrong though? There are pros and cons with these things. Sometimes I see criminals taking advantage of it. What's funnier is that criminals has human rights but the innocent people who they committed their crime too is not given the proper justice.

[@cryptoking2355]

This is a story from 2019 and probably even a fake story back then...

[@jackculler1489]

@@Scaleyboy40 Guns and violence. That’s why we own guns but you clowns probably don’t have guns coz your government took them away Lol

[@kookie175]

@@Scaleyboy40 yea, but too often the human rights activists just pounce and go overboard without understanding the whole political and legal system, especially for criminals whos done henious crimes. how about we all look at victims' rights for a change as well?

[@Judith289]

All of this happened because of the pro NK left wing former President Moon. NK said 2 fishermen were violent criminals who killed 16 people. They said fishermen fled to SK for fear of punishment. However this is one sided claim by NK. There is no evidence. The territorial clause of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea states that the Republic of Korea shall be the Korean Peninsula and its annexes. In addition, it is stated that North Korea is an illegal group that rejected the legal order of the Republic of Korea and occupied part of the country without permission. In other words, North Koreans also potential South Korean people. If North Koreans express their intention to defect , South Korea must accept if they are murderers. And if it is investigated and found to have committed a crime, they should be punished according to the laws of the Republic of Korea. Everywhere in the world, criminals are punished according to the laws of the country, not banished from the country. However, Moon Jae In forcibly repatriated the two fishermen without proper investigation. The Ministry of Justice also said this was not legally correct, but the Moon Jae In ignored it. The Moon Jae In asked the Defense Ministry to cooperate in repatriating the two fishermen, but it refused. He then contacted the police commandos under the Ministry of Public Administration and Security for help. Police commandos were sent in without knowing what they were doing. Hours after the two fishermen were repatriated, Moon Jae In sent a personal letter to Kim Jong-un asking him to revisit South Korea. He is the worst president in the history of the Republic of Korea.

[@C-eo1rt]

What a weak President

[@vverbov22]

"Everywhere in the world, criminals are punished according to the laws of the country, not banished from the country." Deportation is literally a common thing in the entire world. They are not citizens of south korea, they're illegal immigrants

[@Darth_Vader258]

Human Rights more like "Criminal Rights."

[@CrimsonAlchemist]

If he killed a person then he should face consequences

[@titus4702]

Killed 16 shipmates ? 😳

[@fasthighwaydriver59732]

Killed 16 supporters of north korean dictatorship

[@titus4702]

@@fasthighwaydriver59732 why would they support Nort Korea if they're all running away in the same ship. 2 men killing 16 other people is insane, something is very wrong.

[@sebashtundakeng8683]

killed 16 , what do you expect

[@toodammmnhigh9574]

This is absolute sickening by UN defending these defector.

[@neonxnational]

I hate the idea of killing your shipmates just so u can leave to your own interest. But the case looks too rushed to me

[@luffydragon6083]

Next time this same scenario happens (2 fishermen killing 16 of their own shipmates), send them directly to the UN, and let them live their lives under their care.

[@cryptospartan7546]

This is a story from 2019 and probably even a fake story back then...

[@spider6660]

As I know their fate, I am giving them an advance RIP 🎉.

[@raymondvillamor3187]

They're already dead. This happened in 2019. The current president of south Korea felt that there was something wrong with the case. Who knows maybe instead of them killing the other fishermen, they were the only ones who survived.

[@samuelamejia5007]

Why the celebrate emoji tho

[@allent.g560]

@@samuelamejia5007 because those 2 c*nt killed 16 people.

[@tayyab1]

@@samuelamejia5007 Why even a rip, they don't deserve that

[@Sa.d.bo26]

Advance lol dude they died 3 years ago

[@charlescaldwell2596]

Sorry but anyone who killed 16 innocent deserves any punishment given to them.

[@bryant362]

Imagine you commit a crime and you are only condemned instead of any legal action or punishment 😂 🤦🏽‍♂️ this joke of an organization.

[@MiJi_29]

As a Highfleet System ever said to these South Koreans: **WORLD VIEW: KINDNESS -1**

[@Islapark518]

I asked my mom about this and she was super angry at the government. I asked her why, because clearly, to me, they deserve it. Imagine killing 16 other people and trying to pass it off as if your a defector to avoid going to prison. She told me that defectors are labelled as “murderers” in North Korea. Furthermore, she said that South Korea says that every North Korean citizen who comes to the south is automatically a citizen. So she was mad at the government because if they are the south’s citizens, shouldn’t they have been given a proper trial? Shouldn’t the authorities have investigated the case further? I’m absolutely lost idk who to believe now 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Islapark518]

@Zap Rowsdower Excuse me? This is not a “lol” situation.

[@b.k6307]

South Korea did the right thing deporting these fishermen if you let them stay in South Korea then many other fishermen will be slaughtered imagining slaughtering entire Shipmates to steal the ship to cross over to South Korea the message has to be sent out get to the South however you can but not by taking life they could have took the ship's life wrath and sailed to South Korean Waters without killing anyone

[@Islapark518]

@@b.k6307 I agree with you, but my mother would say: “If South Korea claims north Koreans as their own citizens, shouldn’t they have been detained and punish in South Korea instead of North Korea?” But yes I agree that they should have been deported. Serves them right for killing 16 innocent men

[@C-eo1rt]

Its true. There was no investigation done to verify that North Korea's version of events were true. This was an executive decision made by the president to appease North Korea. Northing more and nothing less. Government officials told the president this was the bad move and the court found President's moon actions to be illegal. You mother is right legally North Koreans are legally citizens of the South.

[@unnieofficial]

SK said that since 2010 they have over 200 fishermen in and since 2010 they only deported/expelled 2. These two. But the thing is, they are not yet tried, prosecuted nor found guilty by the South Korean judiciary. Fyi, South Korea constitution, defines all North Koreans as South Korean citizens.

[@SiodogRehane]

Kills dozens of ppl. They still have rights... WTH?!

[@speedbirdconcorde001]

0:34 And you called it "repatriation"

[@derpking3970]

I think the huge thing people are forgetting here is that these men were most likely tortured after they got sent back. Yes, they’re murderers, but have you considered that in most democratic countries, murderers at the very least go through the legal process and sentenced? They sit to rot in jail or prison. In North Korea, you go through a “legal process” and get tortured and hanged. Your family is also likely to suffer the same fate. Rotting in prison for years is one thing. Having the last few months of your life be purely torture is something entirely different.

[@hoshiuno7530]

They are most likely dead right now, just like those 16 other shipmen they killed.

[@hooniehaem]

they killed 16 people....i hope those 2 men died a painful death. they dont deserve any pity

[@shatteredshards8549]

First, their families would have been punished by the DPRK regardless of if South Korea deported the men. The three generations sentencing might have even been worse with the men absent. Second, if someone commits severe crimes, such as multiple murders, in any other country, and then flees across borders to avoid punishment, are countries not expected to extradite the criminals then? Where are we drawing the line as to which countries have a "fair enough" legal process?

[@gallo123]

@LOAN NGUYEN @LOAN NGUYEN you can understand killing a human being for being rude, yet you dare to stand on a moral highground and say murderers don't deserve your sympathy. Interesting how that works...

[@georgebrantley776]

@@shatteredshards8549 Well North Korea isn't even considered a country according to the SK government. They didn't deport them men without a trial; they "relocated North of the DMZ" these men without a trial. A bunch of baloney. Murderers deserve the same thing everyone else deserves: to be tried in court (with legal representation) by a jury and sentenced by a judge, whatever the outcome may be.

[@cutiepiesugar]

But why is this on South CHINA morning post?

[@benjovic7498]

What more human right does he need after killing 16 shipmates?

[@hanggeng7269]

I wanna know what PARK YEO-MI is gonna say about this!! This time she ain't gonna blame it on CHINA like what she ALWAYS DOES!

[@gracyy_vlogs]

I understand, but I agree with the commenter who said to send them back (@Welst Nitmere). As seen in the video, these two men killed 15 people in addition to the captain. After killing them, they returned to the shore, but one of the killers was apprehended by North Korean police. The other two men observed this and fled by boat across the border to South Korea. Once there, they reported what they had done to the South Korean police, which resulted in their deportation back to North Korea. dont side with them eventhough They didn't deserve to suffer because the captain treated them so brutally; many more lives don't need to be lost.

[@polarisation]

yup, "those who live by the sword,shall die by the sword"

[@gabriellehughes3175]

Horrendous.

[@chocolatelightning]

how about we stop the evil instead of condeming it and doing nothing

[@byram101]

No person who ever leaves a known totalitarian state should ever be forced to return. It is clear to all that doing that condemns that person to death and is a reflection of our own values.

[@darth3911]

Problem is every country is authoritarian now.

[@levitator45]

"These North Korean defectors are forcibly deported back to North Korea" Me: No! Why??? "They killed 16 ship crew" Me: Ah... well.. carry on then

[@qwerty-yv8wm]

How about the rights of the 16 people who were murdered.

[@lunkis3233]

Horrible!

[@tchaffman]

This one is really difficult and nuanced when you start thinking about it, but I'm glad their new president is looking closer at other possible solutions.

[@hooniehaem]

this story is from like 2019... the men are already dead

[@tchaffman]

@@hooniehaem not solutions to the particular people involved in this case, but future defector repatriation policy

[@hooniehaem]

why do they need to look at other solutions tho?

[@Justin-ee1mv]

Classic comment section let’s violate human rights and deport them which killed them just to take revenge Classic, instead of rehabilitate them to be part of society and this also does not include the information in which it could be false

[@X2PARR]

RIP 16 shipmates.

[@chloetzpiano6548]

Criminals are criminals

[@calvinallan2208]

This man's last moments...RIP fisherman

[@peacewalker3344]

but he also killed 16 people, I say its well deserved

[@cecil2742]

They killed 16 other fishermen apparently

[@Aficionado2023]

President Moon had every right to deport the 2 men. They unalived everyone else on their boat and fled to the South. Their rights were not violated and South Korea has done nothing wrong. If they were unalived after being deported then I am sorry for them when it comes to that but again the South did what they had to do to protect everyone.

[@katieroxttylxox]

How can you be deported from a country you are a "citizen" of? All North Koreans are legally recognized as citizens in South Korea, so it didn't make any sense for them to be deported.

[@god9257]

It’s hard to blame because we don’t know what he been through in that dictatorial country .

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

That's not supposed to happen...

[@rosie6]

I have no sympathy for people who don’t have sympathy for lives of others.

[@Deepak-st9gd]

Please save the life of the North Korean old person.

[@CWJ0725]

How about the rights of the 16 men they killed?

[@docreyaz2370]

All that's done by UN on time is: condemnation

[@hisokabungeexgum3928]

Dont forget that Hisoka's bungee gum has both properties of gum and rubber!

[@cryptoking2355]

This is a story from 2019 and probably even a fake story back then...

[@TatankaTaylor]

"What happened to the two men is unknown" C'mon... be serious. You know that they'll be either fed to hungry wild dogs or be used as target practice for antiair artillery guns.

[@hanbyeol12]

>be serious >uses a weibo myth as a reference

[@UncleJakey9]

Shocked and Appalled

[@jl63023]

Considering South Korea considers North Korea's territory and people there's, why couldn't they try the fishermen under South Korean law without having them deported to the North where they would surely die?

[@whoeverwhoever400]

Don’t worry. The US will gladly accept that guy, as long as he would bark at his government.

[@elcarajo66]

Yeah and he can become a US citizen and have the right to buy automatic rifles and shoot kids in school! Yay, 'Merica! 😬

[@BostaMan]

I think it's SK's right to repatriate or deport the fishermen. If i were the President, ofcourse i wouldn't want a criminal on loose and become a potential danger to SK citizens lives.

[@kevinoleary9361]

Humanity is just horrible

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

There is nothing we can do. And we all know what they're going back to. This is awful.

[@AndreaPirlo888]

Human right is for the right Humans

[@SOGONGDONG]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS

[@drakko-vc5sm]

This are just clips and what people assume what has happen. At the end of the day he could of been a innocent man. We don't know we can't judge a video by its content.

[@zeryuouros4411]

Those guys dead, this event happened in 2019.

[@drakko-vc5sm]

@@zeryuouros4411 yeah I remember. Just stating a opinion for everyone else's comments

[@andrewoh2612]

This sounds like a mystery novel of the Lord of the Flies, but on a boat.

[@MajinBuu-oo3vn]

The un is such a joke.

[@jackfrostsx_x761]

There playing sad music while showing them being dragged I guess to draw sympathy but there killers... They deserve to go back.

[@thejatangamer_1877]

They should be jailed in SK SK claims to give all North Korean citizens refuge and South Korean citizenship

[@Mizuryryn]

So sad, the north korean defector caught and got sentenced to behead using guliotine

[@sleepyrasta14820]

He killed 15 people then ran to the south to escape justice. He wasn't defecting.

[@condorX2]

0:13 "killed 16 of his shipmates" How & why? 🤔

[@vverbov22]

UN when maniacs get punishment instead of hiding behind a diplomatic shelter: UNACCEPTABLE

[@Ollieg100]

Slay Kimmy 💅💅😘😘

[@Tingyun_neckgobrr]

Another day another slay period

[@Mujiboy]

Fatherless

[@Tingyun_neckgobrr]

@@Mujiboy Hey I see u in Animal planet

[@Mujiboy]

@@Tingyun_neckgobrr Nice name

[@alexluce4907]

Desperate people do desperate measures. Killing your own fishermen is wrong but sending them back to be killed is also utterly wrong. If you deemed their behavior dangerous for doing such, the SK government could have given them a chance at life somewhere guided. The Common people should never suffer the conflict between differing Governments. You're historically one nation. It's disappointing to learn about this fisherman if ever the execution was real.

[@bitmes2910]

We should risk the innocent people for the sake of two murderous??

[@zap296]

Sounds like u support murderers bozo 🤡🤡🤡

[@louie2747]

"Your honor he may have killed those 16 people in cold blood, but don't we all deserve a second chance?"

[@impulsiveurge5837]

16 lives wasted for nothing

[@nightmare348]

This title seems super misleading, since it seems that the "defectors" are essentially serial killers who wiped out an entire boat of fishermen barring themselves.