Not Much Different? 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser vs 2025 Toyota 4Runner

[@ejesoriginal]

They both look good. I prefer the LC front end though. Not really digging the double mustache on the 4Runner front end.

[@lorddrake8566]

LC 🎉

[@wolfdna788]

That roll down back window in the 4Runner makes it win 🏆

[@wolfdna788]

It’s cheaper and has the better back window.

[@andyleo8418]

The Land Cruiser is roomier due to its more upright design and has a better interior, better plastics, according to some other reviewers.

[@mak5535]

Great videos!! Not sure if you are just dropping seeds for comments. Noticed @ 7:16 you started mixing up your "feet" for inches. It is not a foot longer and at 7:29 a foot difference in ground clearance. Otherwise like always you are spot on! Keep up the great work!

[@tylersrubar6451]

Both nice. Side note though…I get the simplicity and idea of the 1958 Land Cruiser trim but for 55k+ it should at least have softex and a power seats.

[@scottgreen284]

Agreed....1958 is too sparce...to basic. LC isn't supposed to be this void of options..even if it is the base model. I guess its the ideal LC for the gearheads that are just gonna drive it straight to the custom shop. But if thats the intent...its a bit overpriced. Not a lot but a bit.

[@jbsmoov1911]

This is going to be in a year or two the best Toyota deal. The 1958 I don't think will sell well (too expensive for what you get amenity wise), so you will see incentives. IF you want to build an LC for real offroad use this model will make a lot of sense, especially if there are decent incentives.

[@tylersrubar6451]

@@jbsmoov1911 I agree.

[@Gprimbs]

Someone should compare a real 1958 Land Cruiser with the 58 retro edition.

[@visof30]

The new 4Runner looks like the early 2000s Isuzu VehiCross. I like the styling, but it’s just an observation

[@drn13355]

Agree. It really does.

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Exactly what am thinking😂

[@U2Blades]

The Vehicross was a two-door truck, unfortunately the four-door never made it to the US.

[@moeswayseldom12]

yes and also reminds me a bit like the ford explorer :(

[@healer81]

It's like 2 different departments in Toyota designed 2 SUV and didn't bother communicating with each other.

[@ALMX5DP]

How so?

[@brandonedwards4398]

@@ALMX5DP The front looks like a tacoma and the rear looks like a 4Runner. I completely agree. Not saying it looks bad- just not as good as LC or 5th gen.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@brandonedwards4398 oh was the OP just talking about the styling of the 4R? I thought they were complaining that the team doing the LC did not talk to the 4R team and wasn’t sure why they needed to communicate since they’re entirely different products.

[@BloodManDan24]

​@ALMX5DP Not sure if this is the case, but Japan has a history for internal competition. Japanese Navy/Japanese Army, Grand Sieko/King Sieko, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if these are two different departments and Toyota is seeing which one is better.

[@tylersrubar6451]

They should look different. Wouldn’t make sense to look the same.

[@MK-fg9qe]

I've been pondering the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser. If they omit the 3rd-row seat, why not remove the armrests and cup holders to create additional space? Also, is there a solution for relocating the battery? Perhaps mounting the spare tire unit outside on the back of the rear door could lower the battery position, resulting in a flatter cargo area.

[@DaveInCanada081]

The new 4Runner is incredible. A homerun for Toyota. The interior looks super refined.👍

[@jonathancapellan]

I love everything but the engine 😢

[@chrisx5127]

@@jonathancapellan Agree.

[@mrketo7077]

I like everything but SUV 😂

[@Darkpill-2]

I have an issue paying that much money for a 4 banger.

[@daxolivares6939]

I love everything except for the interest rate 😂

[@paulmccumber9291]

What I’m interested in is the differences, if any, in the suspension and steering components. It looks like this generation is sharing these components. In every other generation of Land Cruiser sold in the US the components were wildly different.

[@showmemorefunthings9208]

Is the 4Runner ground clearance of 9.2" official press release information and if so is that at the rear differential? Toyota claims the Tacoma has up to 11" of ground clearance for the TRD Pro and Trailhunter so I would think the 4Runner ground clearance would be equivalent to the same trim levels. Any additional clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[@RedWingsninetyone]

In all fairness, the payload will depend on the package. The higher end 5th gen 4Runners also have just under 900 lbs of payload, especially if you get the 3rd row option.

[@yankeesusa1]

Yes, but that was the most basic. So the higher the trim the lower the payload. Not good.

[@erickisel8668]

The three row models get higher payload rating ironically…

[@Freynightwalker]

Thanks for this perspective Tim.

[@spelisha]

They’re completely different in terms of the final result Land Cruiser has all the crawl control mts rear locker that the 4Runner has but WITH full time awd with a center locking diff, that’s a big deal. Not to mention it has kdss which is better at high speeds than a disconnecting swaybar optioned 4Runner Kdss transforms ride on and off road Disconnecting swaybar is only off road help and only for front Kdss impacts front and rear So really The land cruiser is still better And the 4Runner is still limited like before If you want everything

[@sunchaser999]

Not sold on the price premium of the LC though 4wd auto is a big difference.

[@PlayWaves1]

Those statements from Toyota are quite interesting. For 1 they admit the difference really comes down to styling preferences and 2: They aren't worried about internal cannibalization even if two of their vehicles essentially compete in a very similar space.

[@hellkitty1014]

Its almost like they're just appeasing the LC fan base because they know they'll buy it.

[@huanronghu4432]

it would have been better for Toyota to put a manual transmission and in the TRD Pro isodynamic seats to further separate the Land Cruiser 250 from the 4runner besides styling, name, height, roll-down window vs pop-out window, standard hybrid vs optional hybrid, optional third row, part-time vs F4WD, etc

[@christianbolt5761]

I’m really curious how the new MTS and crawl system work compared to the older systems. Also, the range/gas mileage. My 4R is thirsty and slow in the mountains, so the better gearing and power will be welcomed.

[@huanronghu4432]

probably will achieve at least a little bit better gas mileage, and from other reviewers, the MTS and CC are much quieter like almost nothing is heard

[@hellkitty1014]

I know the Toyota fanboys are going to crucify me, but I don't understand the premium of this LC over a 4Runner. Dimensionally, its fractionally shorter and narrorwer than the 4Runner, but about 4" taller. The 4Runner has access to the hybrid-max powertrain, as well as them sharing 4WD systems(would've been cool if the LC offered f/r lockers, then I could see it). The LC should've had the Hybrid-Max V6 at least as an option to separate itself from the 4Runner.

[@alariaaurora8456]

Besides 4runner looks better on both inside and outside And most importantly: it's wayyy cheaper

[@ZachSchmidt_CO]

By the time you configure a 4runner with full time 4wd and an iforce max, they are going to be very similarly priced.

[@cheintz091]

4Runner looks like a toy your child plays with in the backyard. Also the interior is much more truck like and less luxury feeling… if you get the premium package on the LC

[@saucywings]

@@alariaaurora8456it’s 12K more expensive than the Land Cruiser but go off. It’s 68K for the TRD pro and 55K for the Land Cruiser. Has the same engine. Mid and rear locking diff and a better backseat and cloth seats which is a decent touch. I just wish it had the unlockable sway bars at that price point.

[@Ezone_X]

Land Cruiser (GR) is full locked (triple) and got twin turbo V6 in petrol or Diesel, your "US" version of "LC" is a world's Prado. every toyota fanboy knew it. thats why its lacking of offroad goodies and tech, and a little bit smaller in size

[@djjf45]

Nice observation about the Tacoma seats vs. T4r. I thought it would grow on me that they gave the Prado an LC250 badge, but the more time goes on, I wish they would have called it a Prado or something. Makes no sense for it to have any sort of lc badge

[@noctilucent7396]

Prado is just a light duty land cruiser. Would you prefer the badge to say light duty land cruiser and the 300 to say heavy duty Land Cruiser?

[@jcphenry]

Is the payload the same across all of the trim and engine variants of the 4-Runner? The 4-cyl turbo hybrid is available in both (standard in the LC, optional in the 4-Runner.)

[@talbotttalbott1619]

Integrated infotainment screen on the LC is a ++ Thinking 5 years from now there will be less LC's on the road then 4runners.

[@1diggers1]

It looks really nice BUT is a payload of just under 900lbs realistic?? That seems a few hundred light to me. I picture 4 adults towing something with gear in the back as a pretty standard scenario for the 4 runner and 900 lbs isn't enough for that.

[@HawaiiFoodAndFun]

So you get 4 big guys (200+) going on a hunt or something and thats already 800+ or maybe you gotta get your MIL from the airport

[@Raptor0600]

Interesting that you’re standing with a base model (round headlight) version of the Land Cruiser in baby blue, but then the B roll film of it on the off road course demonstrating it’s capabilities is the top trim triple beam headlight Land Cruiser (also in baby blue)- coincidence? Or bait & switch??

[@brandonedwards4398]

Why is the payload so low? 2024 Tacoma has far better payload capacity. First time you said it- I thought it was a typo! Wow.

[@ALMX5DP]

I thought I saw somewhere else that these are still preproduction vehicles, so perhaps just like some materials are not quite finalized the sticker may not be truly representative. I do expect the hybrids to have lower payloads just due to the additional weight they carry but yeah quite a stark difference to the LC here so hoping it’s more when they actually start showing up on dealer lots.

[@c1aytonbigsby]

4Runner is definitely a pre production model so that sticker isn’t accurate.

[@choangG27]

Because of the battery!

[@ALMX5DP]

@@choangG27 the Land Cruiser has the same battery and hybrid system..

[@joelstalcup2464]

I like that they are similar yet have different styling flares. GM does this with there virtual twin GM/Chevy offerings.

[@richardguse3410]

Tim what are you saying at 7:28? A foot difference in ground clearance?

[@emmalab02]

TRD Pro weight capacity is lower due to the Fox shocks being designed for desert running. Same with the Raptor and ZR2/Bison. The regular 4Runners will have higher weight capacity.

[@chrispnw2547]

I think there are too many people who have decided to be KZbin Vehicle Marketers. As a result, you hear many of them speak of $50K vehicles as being affordable and complain when an offering does not have heated/cooled seats. WAKE UP FELLAS!!!! The prospective customers for these vehicles is relatively small as these products have increased in price disproportionate to family incomes. So many people these days buy expensive cars and turn into social media creators to create revenue generating income. Go to the dealerships and these vehicles (new Tacoma) are filling up the lots going unsold. Once the initial fanatics get their LandCruisers and 4 Runners get their vehicles, these vehicles will start building inventories in dealer lots. The real reason you see the Land Cruiser and 4 Runner as they use a common architecture, drivetrains, and other components. I suspect they could even be assembled on the same production line. The capital expenditure to produce both is relatively low as they share so much in common.

[@JoeBuck-uc3bl]

No

[@chrispnw2547]

@@JoeBuck-uc3bl Yes

[@markf8256]

At first I thought all the overlap between Toyota models would be a detriment but not so much now. Toyota has effectively created different trims vs different models especially in the TNGA for the trucks, so you don’t have to go to another manufacturer to get what you want. The only question you have to ask is whose small displacement turbo power train do you trust more.

[@markflaugh2293]

So since you have been in both, how does the Land cruiser compare to the Lexus Gx? Are they the same size? And the Gx has the twin turbo V6?

[@arhamkhakwani5851]

Dimensions wise they are the same size. The GX based on what I’ve seen definitely is more premium feeling compared to any version of the Land Cruiser. And yes the GX is standard with the TTV6 while the LC is with the hybrid 4.

[@JPE_DRAEB]

I just wish they have the 4WD Auto along with the rear diff lock and non hybrid version for the TRD PRO and Trail hunter! Is that too much to ask? Ford, Chevy and Ram offer it!

[@HD-on2eg]

That’s gonna be the Off-road model. Hopefully

[@JPE_DRAEB]

@@HD-on2eg Actually all they will have 4WD auto only the the limited and premium but without rear locking diff! Can't get both!

[@ht1261]

Go ahead and get a Ford, Chevy or Ram!

[@jakejoebob]

@@JPE_DRAEB To clarify, It's not auto system. It's an all wheel drive system that you can "lock up" to 4Hi on the LC and Limited 4R.. I don't think Toyota will bother adding an Auto feature for their part time systems.The Part Time Transfer case is an oldshool bullet proof design that Off Road enthusiasts love and I don't think Toyota is interested in redesigning and adding more complexity to it. Their enginers would just tell you to get the Full Time 4wd found in a limited 4R, an LC, or a GX, thats why a full time option exsists.

[@JPE_DRAEB]

@@jakejoebob So what is the difference with the Ford and Ram with 4a along with 4H and 4L options and a rear locking diff? Why can't you have all of it? ie a central, front, and rear locking diff?

[@planoman0935]

Agree with you on no shiny black on exterior or interior for that matter. Come on Toyota, stop it!

[@00badcompany90]

The LC looks a lot better imo and the flex on the LC in crazy

[@ErickMelo-gy6dg]

How big is the fuel tank ?

[@WickedPrime]

Seating capacity on hybrid 4runner is 5 only.

[@Nupa-bb1xs]

It has best interior design. All the engineering is beautiful and all button and gear lever design and whole dash button clusters are beautifully designed

[@davidhouston7812]

It's pretty simple You going to want a 4 Runner or Land Cruiser Taco interior Or GX ( like ) interior

[@Garyash92]

It has 2400W inverter, not 240w.

[@DougVandegrift]

yeah he kept making that mistake lol

[@phennexion]

He said 240v at one point too 😂

[@DanielOsorio-sw8gk]

In the US people seem to prefer the LC. In latin american we've had both for years and people clearly prefer the 4runner. interesting

[@thejohnnerparty]

There is a $50,000 spread in the price range for the three Utes (4 Runner, Land Cruiser & GX 550) from bottom to top. I'd say Toyota has done a excellent job of segmenting the market.

[@tronner10]

The TOYOTA on the 4runner TRD Pro passenger dash looks like an afterthought. Gaudy and looks like the letters could get ripped off. One thing to consider with the LC - if you decide to eventually lift it and put a spare tire on a swing out you might lose functionality of the rear lift window. Unless you can fit a 35" underneath, which I'm reasonably sure you won't be able to. I realize most people probably aren't doing that, but these are the things I think about :-)

[@sonar0085]

LC w/ Full time AWD and 4Runner w/ 4Hi 4Low

[@ArtgGar27]

Why even have a tow hitch with an 800 lb payload limit?

[@markreams3192]

The batteries and electric motor probably account for the low payload. Four 200 pounders and their luggage will exceed the payload!

[@billwaterhouse5894]

Hi Tim, nice video…enjoyed the review. No sir, not a fan of the TOYOTA on the 4R TRD pro passenger side dash. I asked my wife, same response not a fan. Nice trucks

[@lorddrake8566]

Land cruiser all the way, better looking truck

[@nlken7175]

All come's down to 4Runner price.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

the weight limit is low because it's a turbo, could blow the engine, its already pressed enough with one person.

[@GigiDelaCruz-r9s]

Land Cruiser 1958 with no options or greedy dealership mark ups please. Looks like more headroom in LC.

[@Scubadiver-IYKYK]

As a customer who’s first vehicle was a Land Cruiser and second a 4Runner, I’m looking at these and it’s very obvious that there is absolutely zero reason to buy the Land Cruiser with it lacking a third row. So sad that Toyota completely botched a simple success track.

[@terryhutchinson9094]

Disappointed with the Land Cruiser myself. I want the old drop down tailgate, I want a naturally aspirated engine option, and I want a manual transmission.

[@Marvilalove]

Then by an old Landcruiser

[@randyhelgath685]

I noticed how easily the plastic in the cargo area of the 4-runner scratched looking abused; and on a new vehicle! Something minor, BUT... isn't paying attention to detail is what Toyota engineering is noted for?

[@Snowsubie]

One very important difference in my opinion: Land Cruiser has full-time 4WD. I own a 4Runner trd pro which is part time 4WD. I live in the snowy north. If you drive on paved roads with unpredictable ice, you cannot switch to 4 Hi in time if you suddenly hit ice and need power to all 4 wheels. If you drive in 4 Hi all the time in winter with the 4runners locked front to rear wheels, it is hard to turn when traction is good because of binding (and hard on all the spinning components). If you are driving in snow / ice conditions on roads with intermittent good and bad traction, full-time 4WD (or AWD) is way better. The Land Cruiser is full-time 4WD with a Torsen central differential that is open so no binding when traction is good and can power all wheels when traction bad. The central differential can be locked as well (with a switch) when you need it off-roading to make it work just like the 4runner in 4 HI. It of course also has 4 Lo and option to lock rear differential like 4 Runner. Even with 4Hi in the 4runner, I have found the locked front / rear wheels give undesirable forced wheel spin on ice when turning when you ideally never want to have any wheel spinning / breaking traction. My Subaru Forrester AWD slid much less on ice than the 4 runner does in 4 Hi because the Subaru has no locked central or front / rear differentials. Obviously the Subaru is not as capable when stuck as all it can do is vector torque to wheels with grip by applying automatic braking to spinning wheels with the electronic traction control and no ability to lock a central or rear differential. But I have found the Subaru way safer than my 4Runner on ice. I have had far fewer close calls in the Subaru. 4 Runner heavier of course... So if you need it for snow / ice in the winter, I would vote by far for the permanent 4WD Land Cruiser :-).

[@Ezone_X]

HiluxSurf (4runner) is always seats below the PRADO. always! The hierarchy of toyota SUV start with 1. Heavy Duty wagon, Land Cruiser (300) next is Light Duty Land Cruiser "PRADO" (250) then 4-RUNNER for US market or FORTUNER (Diesel) is east market (middle east/Asia/Japan/Australia)

[@cassin11]

4runner is lifted - higher ground clearance, better offroad suspension, potentially heavier duty UCA. You don't get that in landcruiser. You might miss central locking differential that landcruiser has but its reliability in gnarly terrain is a question mark to me. So 4runner can tackle rougher terrain to my eyes

[@cheintz091]

You only get that suspension in the TRD PRo and Trailhunter which will both be around $60k so not much less than the LC. Interior in the LC is a little nicer and more luxurious. LC looks like a vehicle for a more mature audience while the 4Runner looks like an RC car your kid plays with in the backyard. Also full time 4WD in the LC is nice to have and not available in the trailhunter or TRD pro

[@cassin11]

@@cheintz091 Labeling something like mature or kiddo is a bad idea. What do you want to say next? Asian vs white? People buy what they want. What I choose is none of your business. I can even buy a pink car and be happy with it. I was replying to the author what notable differences are there. Perhaps, what I missed mentioning was I was eluding to off road use case. If you really want to get into serious off road in stock form 4runner might do better specs wise but then again anybody can buy what they think is best for them.

[@Appalachianventure]

If we got the European diesel (real) Landcruiser with third row, this wouldn’t even be a discussion. I’d buy one tomorrow. Otherwise, I’ll just keep the ol 5th gen 4R.

[@stonewp]

The new Landcruiser is a cool new 4Runner. It’s unfortunate that it doesn’t have the roll down rear window. The 5th gen 4Runner seems nicer and more thought out than the 6th gen.

[@scottw7492]

I am old, but Land Cruiser is old school vibe, 4Runner is more adventurous looking.

[@scottgreen284]

Yes...this...im old too 😂

[@charliemcawesome5012]

Yup. Agreed. 4Runner looks like it’s made for “teenyboppers” or those just slightly older, and LC looks like it’s for us old farts. Black 1958 ordered.

[@alexsmba]

@@charliemcawesome5012 I’m definitely not a teeny bopper. But I prefer the 4 Runner. The LC looks decent, but a little bland. Not as bland as the 200 and 300 though. That 4Runner TRD Pro looks pretty good. Looks a little better set up for off-road too.

[@noctilucent7396]

Lc is like a 4runner but for adults

[@brettsuydam7457]

895lbs is unusable. My wife and I are 1/3 of that not including 3 large dogs and stuff.

[@hellkitty1014]

Crazy low for a BOF SUV. Curious on the curb weight.

[@JarredMcGallagher]

I would like to see a trd offroad in an sr5 !

[@jamesamber6009]

I like Toyota's simplicity and durability, way better than those fancy EV cars

[@jterranova]

A reviewer compares payload! Finally! 👏

[@jmrdrgz]

TY for pointing out the payload!

[@nordlandak6853]

Both use outdated 4wd systems that can’t use the rear locker in 4hi. Jeep does it, Chevy can, and ford too. Toyota can’t!

[@jamesamber6009]

Some people don't like FSD, we just prefer to drive.......

[@danielmurray5326]

Trailer hunter 4Runner is just a way better off roader.

[@alberthechme4001]

I’ll stick with my 2023 TRD OFF ROAD PREMIUM. Just something about the sound and durability of that 4.00LT V6 😅

[@jayray274]

I just like the design of the LC better. I had high hopes for the 4Runner, but thus far disappointed. Also loose the Piano Black!!! Especially on a “adventure vehicle”

[@scottthompson5855]

Exactly. Because they can. There is a reason for that. I have zero interest in a 4runner and will be buying a Landcruiser You say there is little difference. You would be wrong.

[@JJJ5.7]

4runner is the nicer truck to me. Interesting to know price on 4runner.

[@kloun1980]

I personally like the 4Runner. More aggressive. But i wouldn't say the pricing is the same.. the high end 4runner is the same price as low end Land cruiser. the 4runner TRD OR and up will be the better off roader.

[@howlingwolf125y]

Most of the new 4Runner is ok I guess.. But Toyota made a major goof on the new 4Runner.. They made the roofline way too low.. I mean WAAAYYY too low.. I personally would use the 4Runner for about 99% street only... I also like a higher roofline so I have good visibility in all directions.. But some people like to use the 4Runner to do some off roading. With going offroad you are going to bounce around in the drivers seat - your head will hit the roof with all that bouncing around. I think a 3" or 4" higher roofline would have made this 4Runner way way better for everybody. It would have looked better and bolder, and have more comfort and interior room - and would have way better outward visibility in all directions. I guess the aim for Toyota with this low roof was for (shorter) women and shorter Japanese people??.. Only thing I can figure...

[@jw8578]

4runner... 895 payload? Horrible.

[@joeibarra9003]

Land cruiser, looks like the FJ grew up

[@Mayonnaise1324]

I think we’ve missed the point. The drive systems in these are completely different… Night and day. To come up with a conclusion that Toyota did this “because they can“ is simply not accurate. Look at the full-time all-wheel-drive system of the Land Cruiser versus the on-demand four-wheel-drive system of the 4runner and Tacoma. If I were single, I would definitely go towards the ladder, but because I have family kids, etc. they will be driving this in inclement weather. The Land Cruiser is my choice.

[@maverick-zj3jz]

The 4 runner looks much better.

[@rjhein]

It seems quite odd that Toyota would put the 7 seat option in the vehicle with 6 inches LESS headroom - I'm curious as to how/why that decision was made? Perhaps price-point was their decision factor, but still - the comfort in the rear would be miles better in the LC given that metric, not to mention, the ability to have a higher rear seat height which would greatly help.

[@steveguillory7568]

Because the LCs only engine option is the hybrid max. So that means the battery pack lives under the cargo floor making it not possible to have a third row. Yes, you can get a third row in the 4R, but only if you get the non hybrid engine.

[@rjhein]

@@steveguillory7568 good point!

[@MayhemInTheEast]

"The ground clearance is about a foot difference" lmfao

[@costaszeimpekis994]

I can't find a reason to buy 4Runner over the LC, unless there is a huge price difference

[@paulm6481]

Landcruiser customer is more affluent and older. 4-Runner is for most normal people.

[@jessedowning368]

But what are you getting for your extra $15k? Are people going to spend that much extra just because of the looks?

[@paulm6481]

@@jessedowning368 All wheel drive all the time. It comes with the hybrid by default. For 4-Runner you have to step up to much higher trims to get those options if at all.

[@richardvalitalo3670]

Who wants fulltime 4wd all summer on the road?

[@daser007]

Piano black?? Really??

[@Jay-bw3fl]

Personally I don’t get the new Land Cruiser price. It seems like a downgrade from the new 4runner yet it costs more. Just plain weird. I do like it but I think it looks like a cheaper vehicle than the 4runner not more expensive. I do kind of understand what Toyota is doing by offering one plain Jane option to appeal to one type of buyer and a more chiseled, sporty option to appeal to others tho.

[@Kenneth_R]

I honestly dont like the new Tacoma and 4Runner interior. Looks too blocky tonka like with very hard and cheap looking plastics all over. The Land Cruiser interior is also pretty stark but looks a bit nicer.

[@Timpala44]

4Runner needs to get rid of the shiny black plastic on the exterior. Especially the fenders.

[@DevonReclaimed]

The 4runner should have gone Jeep style and the Prado stay a medium hard body SUV

[@moeswayseldom12]

New 4Runner is fugly! Looks similar to Ford Explorer ! Manufacturers are making vehicles more rounder. I prefer the square look of LC but manual seats, cloth seats and all turbos now Toyota….ugh…yuck!

[@danielgarcia228]

4 runner looks like it has better angles and ground clearance. If it wasn’t for that I’d take the Land Cruiser.

[@jamesmoore9008]

Prefer the looks and payload of the LC. Prefer the 4Runner ground clearance, but I wouldn’t buy one with less than 900 lb payload.

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Even here in Africa the Prado (land cruiser 150) kinda competes with the Fortuner(Hilux pick up based),but coz of the "Land cruiser" name the Prado comands a higher price to the Fortuner,hence the two are separated by just their names.

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

They look very different and I don't think they are competition with one another.

[@Iwo26]

Raised cargo floor is where Toyota is losing me with both 4Runner and Land Cruiser

[@tronner10]

I'm with you. The new 4runner has less overall height than the 5th gen, then if you want the hybrid (not sure I do) you lose even more interior height with the raised floor. For camping / overlanding if you put in a drawer system or sleeping platform you will have no room to sleep on top. Land Cruiser is taller inside, but you still lose 5-6" with the raised floor. Makes me think the GX may be the option IF you want to build out the interior for car camping. But then you lose get such bad gas mileage.

[@DartmouthOutingClub]

​@@tronner10 These are the thoughts that keep me up at night 🤣 Why can't someone design the perfect, minimalist car camping off-roader?

[@benc2798]

4Runner is basically an SUV version of Tacoma.

[@Zimbo999]

Tim your smart

[@Pickuptrucktalk]

THANKS!

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

Hard pass on both. For the same price I can get a 2021 Land Cruiser or a GX 460 that is superior in every way.

[@frasiec]

And the GX

[@KP-rz3gk]

I’m not buying a hybrid Toyota. You buy their off-road vehicles because they’ll run forever. Who wants to be stuck with a battery that needs replacement after 8-12 years? Even if you’re going to sell it before the battery needs replacement, who is going to buy a used Toyota off-road that is due for a new battery in 2-3 years?

[@MrPumpMan]

I didn't know that Toyota was building Ford Broncos

[@pinkipipe]

This is about size and tastes because everything else on those cars are the same

[@hamburglar83]

This is basically why we never had prado before. Or why we dont have hilux now. Aesthetically i like the Land Cruiser more but a decked out 4 runner basically being the same car is disappointing. Why??? I don’t know but it eats sales from Land Cruiser when cruiser should be like 50 more horsepower and v6 alsoooo Land Cruiser should not have that smaller screen even at base because it looks so bad. Why the hell would you buy a base land cruiser vs loaded 4 runner with a way better interior /same capabilities and engine.