Not So Serious Keto Interview #6 - Heavenly Fan

In this monthly series, I will be interviewing other KZbin keto content creators - some more famous than others, but all are fantastic contributors to the keto community.
This month, I'm interviewing Fan from ‪@HeavenlyFan‬ Because Fan is in the UK, there is a little bit of video lag on her end. Fortunately, the audio is good.
Heavenly Fan KZbin channel: / heavenlyfan
Fan's French Fries: • How to make keto Frenc...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Four months away
1:57 Vegan keto
4:55 Keto ingredients and soy
10:19 Keto "experts" and ingredient fear
12:44 Why Fan went keto
17:04 Is keto sustainable?
18:52 Heavenly fries
23:28 Recipe credit
25:25 Fake meat
31:04 Cooking for others
32:34 Eating out
33:54 Favorite recipes
35:51 Making videos
40:55 Favorite aspect of keto
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[@heythere12]

I'm not vegan, but tried alot of her recipes, all turned out phenomenal. Nothing tasteless or boring. She is incredibly talented and creative.

[@MeiraV-]

"When your body is constantly in battle, and then you finally find peace, that is somewhere that you don't want to leave" -- really sums it up beautifully!

[@linhamilton18]

I don’t think of keto as a DIE_T I think of it as a healthy choice and a lifestyle. I love Fan, and I loved your video/podcast with her. She’s a beautiful and bright human being ❤

[@josephlarsen]

I loved her response to the "how do you feel about people not giving you credit". Her whole attitude is such an awesome one for our community in general. It's the opposite response as one of the other viral recipe creators who started putting their content behind a paywall because people shared out their recipes which really gave me a bad taste in my mouth about their recipes in general. Fan however is just all around a great person.

[@SeriousKeto]

I believe that’s the person I alluded to, if we’re thinking of the same person. 😉

[@josephlarsen]

@@SeriousKeto :) i did assume that's who you were alluding to. There's only 1 that I know of so I assume it's the same person. But also didn't want to just call them out. They're welcome to do what they do, but it's too bad they're not more interested in helping the community

[@SeriousKeto]

What's interesting is that for all of that her claims that she "owns" that recipe, another KZbin channel did it 8 months prior to her video, and you can find it in the Modernist Cuisine cookbook by Nathan Myrvold which was released over 10 years ago. If she wants to put her recipes behind a Patreon pay wall and make people sign a non-disclosure agreement, that's fully her right to do so. But don't make false claims about being the first person to ever combine a couple of ingredients.

[@ahealthierkirk2558]

@@SeriousKeto lol well I can name that mystery "flavor" content creator in 1 clue. I have never asked someone if a secret recipe contained an ingredient I couldn't eat and then be asked to sign an NDA!

[@SeriousKeto]

@@ahealthierkirk2558 So she actually asked you to sign a NDA? Did she mention her lawyers going after people people who share her recipes?

[@chirologypalmistry]

Heavenly Fan, an exquisite human who I've been a fan of for a long time. Stunning interview, thank you.

[@AllFiredUpGlassBeads]

Thank you so much Steve, and Fan. She is so refreshing, gentle and real. I enjoy watching her put together simple and delicious creations. And, she has a wonderful story.

[@ameliacarey3315]

I love Heathenly Fan, I have tried some of her recipes. Her flat bread was the first I tried and liked. I am not vegan, but her food always looks so good and fresh. I love how Fan gets excited to taste her food. You can tell she enjoys the food. Her vibe is always so soothing. Great interview, thank you Steve for getting together with Fan.

[@SewWhittle]

Heavenly 😉

[@ahealthierkirk2558]

I think Heavenly Fan might have a much darker second channel?...fingers crossed!

[@CClay-kn9lm]

The two most pleasant voices in keto recipe video channels! Wonderful to hear you talk with each other. Thank you both for all you do. Blessings.

[@lindahenley6801]

I’ve been a subscriber of Fan for a while now. She is so serene and calm and has such a lovely voice. Her flatbread and “fries” saved me from returning to carb foods when the cravings hit. I’m also in UK so all her ingredients are available to me - unlike US recipe creators where lots of things aren’t available here - powdered egg white for instance. Fabulous interview.

[@srezzy1326]

Omg I love Fan, she’s amazing! Her recipes, her voice is so calming too!

[@SeriousKeto]

She's really a wonderful person.

[@DrTonyHampton]

Metabolic health is the goal! So it’s nice to hear from someone who is spreading the message that YES even our vegan brothers and sisters can enjoy the benefits of reducing carbs while honoring their vegan dietary preference😊

[@naomiledger1374]

The wonderful thing about Fan is that she is so generous and creative and joyful. I'm not vegan or vegetarian but I am nevertheless a keen follower of her channel for the reasons I mentioned. I'm interested in a keto diet and improving my health and Fan's recipes are both healthy and delicious, so I'm happy to try them either as they are or adapt them slightly to include non-vegan ingredients but remain keto. I honestly can't imagine anyone having a single negative thing to say about Fan and her channel. She's just so utterly delightful and a truly charming and genuine human being! I'd also say in relation to 'fake foods' being created in order to experience certain foods (or food textures) which we choose to no longer consume in our diets, my view is that it's not much different to any other gastronomical creations from the past that have since become regular or accepted parts of our modern diets. And I agree with Fan about the Shepherd's Pie...that is an outstanding dish! The cauliflower mash was a revelation to me and it's even better than mashed potato!!

[@clairewang7800]

I totally share the view with Fan about soy. Having been raised in Asia and then moved to the States 20+ years ago, I still do not fully understand why all this phobia about soy. In Asia (at least in Taiwan where I was raised) everyone eats soy products, from soymilk for breakfast, to tofu as one of the most common side dishes on lunch or dinner tables, and numerous other soy products. Especially for vegetarians, this is one of the main protein sources for them. Sure if it's GMO then probably not good, but I still buy non-GMO soymilk from Whole Foods and drink it pretty much on a daily basis. I don't think there is any negative health effect on me as I have always been very lean and healthy pretty much my whole life (am in my 50s). I don't eat much processed foods or use any seed oil in my cooking though I should say that...

[@sandya2948]

What a dream getting to know Fan better. I have admired and followed her from the beginning of her Keto journey, and every time she takes a break I miss her dearly. Inspiring, humble and kind are only a couple of ways to describe her. Thank-you Steve. You are great.❤️

[@kimrittenhouse505]

The Heavenly Fan KZbin channel (and her 1 Carb Flatbread recipe in particular ) was what led me to investigate what she called “fat adaptation”. I was just looking for a gluten free bread recipe for a friend who I had invited to dinner! When I searched this strange phrase, that then led me to Jason Fung and the rest is history. Al throughout the next year of Keto and losing 100 pounds, I watched Fan’s videos, and have always found her style to be smart, clear, concise and easy to understand. Of course over the past year I’ve also discovered Steve, Nilli, Ken Berry and most recently Kelly Hogan and Bella the Steak and Butter Gal (I’m doing her 90 day Carnivore Challenge). Thanks for this, another great interview Steve!

[@Lylasnanna40]

I love Fan and use her recipes quite often! What a lovely interview!

[@cmfernandez9283]

Heavenly Fan embraces a heavily animal based community and engages us without judgment or dogma, and we, in turn, embrace her. I think that is why she receives so little negative feedback. We appreciate someone who can't find common ground despite the significant differences between the way we eat. She's awesome, as are you, Steve. A great collaboration.

[@chrisavetrano]

There is nothing I don’t love about her-so beautiful, calming, heavenly voice and accent. Makes every recipe seem perfect. This was a great interview. Loved every minute.Thanks..

[@mascha9266]

What a beautiful interview with a beautiful person! Her explanation/philosophy about the fake meat (and reason for it) gave me a totally different perspective on this issue. Opened my mind! Thanks.

[@m.obscura5009]

Wonderful interview Steve. I just love two great calming voices, two incredibly honest people creating wonderful recipes for the keto community. Blessed to have you both in my world! Thanks.

[@jeangurnee]

I have been trying to explain why Keto is good for me to the friends and family that seem really upset I have fallen for a fad diet and Fan hit the nail on the head when she said her body is calm. It is an amazing feeling. Until this past May when I started Keto, I can't remember ever feeling this calm. Thanks for the interview!

[@judyh3017]

I’ve been on keto for two years. It wasn’t until watching this interview that I realized my feeling of calmness is due to being on keto! I thought it was because I’m getting older and learned to be more calm. I know that keto has given me more mental clarity, I assume it’s from eating more fats to help the brain, which is made up of a high percentage of fat, to function better. Great interview. I was already a fan of Heavenly Fan.

[@dr.evelynsharp2351]

Well done both of you! Fan has always been a lesson in creativity for me but it's fun to see she's a lesson in peaceful acceptance, too. Great interview

[@rods57]

I love watching my two favorites together. While we are not vegan I have found that a lot of Fan’s recipes are fantastic!!! Thanks for interviewing her.

[@wgpbsb]

Fantastic interview, Steve! Thank you for helping us get to know this awesome woman. She has such a calming attitude and demeanor. Her friends and family are lucky to know her.

[@alanacreates]

she has such a bright and calming soul! i have always enjoyed her videos. I'm not vegan or vegetarian, but i recommend her curry buns! whole family loved them! absolutely loved this interview!

[@lynnharrell9598]

Shout out to Heavenly Fan for her awesome almond flour Keto fries! A very happy accident. 🥳

[@greeneyes2256]

So happy to hear Fan speak about tofu, I eat it frequently. It’s the over processed oils that give me problems. This was a really interesting interview, Steve. Hopefully you can find more people like Fan to interview.

[@goodtiming219]

After receive a heart stent 4 weeks ago I was searching KZbin on how I could tweak my sugar buster’s diet. Heavenly Fan popped-up first on my radar. Subscribed right off the bat. Vegan Keto is a mind boggling concept. Since sugar is vegan; I get it. I too like the way Fan talks. Serious Keto, loved the video. You did a great job. Nice see the two of you together talking Keto. Yep, later found that “Serious Keto” channel and subscribed. Like the way he talks, too. Thanks, Good Timing keto times here we coming.

[@sarahowland2896]

Two of my very favorite content creators on one show! (Also love Dennis) I love her attitude as well as her recipes. ❤️

[@cmariaification]

Getting this interview on early release is a total bonus! Watching two Chefs share their passion and what inspires them is just delightful.

[@brendashope1558]

This interview is amazing! Steve's questions and interviewing skills are perfect and Fan is such a thoughtful and creative person. I absolutely love her philosophy and peaceful energy. I always look forward to new content from both of these folks, and to have them together in this setting is bliss!!

[@darcyjane8031]

i found Fan back in 2021. Her recipes are delicious and unique. Yesterday i put in an order for psyllium powder. When it arrives in a few days, Ill be making her Keto Vegan Curry stuffed bread and her dinner rolls. They just look SOOO appealing. Thanks Fan, im super happy to have the variety that you bring to MY keto journey.

[@Sbannmarie]

Love her recipes. I’m not a vegan, but appreciate a Whole Foods way of cooking and baking. thanks Steve-O for connecting with her.

[@Lise-ss8qw]

So glad your back Fan i found you a few years back now you found my way on my feeds again It happens time to time you need a break ❤

[@22qcat]

A good reminder that there’s A LOT that goes into making just 1 short video. You both make it look so easy & effortless, which is why you have great channels. 😀 Thanks for another great interview!

[@heatherkolanich287]

Very enjoyable conversation to listen to. Heavenly fans fried led her to potato chips or crisps which I just finished and will make another batch this week. I would never know they weren't made from potatoes.

[@Inspirenauta]

What a beautiful interview, his words at the end, resonated in my heart. because that's the feeling I've had for 2 weeks. There are 4 that I'm on vegan keto, it was already low carb vegan. Under radiotherapy treatment, on instructions from a youtube endocrinologist talking about clinical studies, I decided to fast and keto. What a wonderful feeling! No bad digestion, clarity and peace! I'm grateful to have found your channel two days ago, they made me see that I can continue! Sorry for the writing, using the translator. Kisses from Brazil

[@jenniferespinosa4977]

Lovely interview. I find both of you very respectful and inspiring!

[@kangakid5984]

Steve ' Food shouldn't be misery' now that is such a great reminder for a healthy outlook. This was a great discussion thank you so much.

[@donnabosserman6090]

I love you both and admire your dedication to help others ❤️ ♥️ 💕 💖 💗 💛

[@robynoneal628]

Great podcast. I just recently ran across her channel. I was wondering if there was such a thing as Keto Vegan. I will surely be experimenting with her videos. She is always so soothing. Thank you both.

[@rosemaryedwards3293]

Absolutely your best interview yet! I have subscribed to Heavenly Fan's podcast for a long time now, and really enjoy her recipes which are filling and tasty. I am vegetarian, but eat a lot of vegan food anyway, but I love the way that she concentrates on eating low carb foods, and not worrying about the actual net carb count. I have been doing this for a while and losing weight slowly, but steadily, but like she says, I have found that this is the best way for me personally. Thanks to both of you for a very inspiring interview.

[@exchangestudent2]

I am not familiar w Fan but she is so gracious. This was a great interview.

[@javadivawithdog]

2 stars in the keto world together! Fan-tastic ❤

[@madamebec]

Thank you for filming these interviews. I know of Fan's channel, but this personal glimpse is just plain enjoyable & relaxing in an educational way.

[@TheMarinemom02]

Two great personalities in one place? Oh yeah! That was absolutely excellent and a pleasure listening to both of you. Thank you so much.

[@danae.1744]

I was so looking forward to this interview, thank you so much for having it! I, also, am a fan of Fan lol. Love you both ❤️ 😍

[@descoladorez]

Yay it's Steve and Fan! What an awesome pair. Thanks for the treat!

[@weeziesgirl576]

TY for this interview Steve! I discovered Fan before I discovered Serious Keto! I had never even heard of xanthan gum when I found her. Thank you both for your contributions.

[@suyapajimenez516]

What a fine guest you had today Steve. I enjoy every minute. Thank you both

[@s.z.6200]

Two of my favorite KZbin Keto people!

[@teridacktaljones4553]

She has me when she says Almond flour. 👍

[@-.Steven]

41:14 This is such a great answer by Heavenly Fan! A calm body. Something everyone should think about. I'm not vegan, but folks, we gotta get off the SAD (Standard American Diet) and the sooner the better! Your body will thank you! I'm going to go subscribe to Heavenly Fan, if I haven't already!

[@juliagulia2002]

So enjoyed your interview with Heavenly Fan. Well done, Steve! What a humble, insightful, wise person she reveals through the course of answering your great questions. Thank you your content and this interview!

[@tabathatammaro9187]

I'm definitely not vegan, nor ever plant to be, but I LOVE FAN. How could you not?! The end of this interview is so poignant. She explains it so PERFECTLY. A testament to why I watch her. Thanks for a great interview Steve :)

[@discerningtaste]

I follow both of you so imagine my surprise to see your interview together .. very cool! I can say I rarely (if never) sit through a video longer than 20 minutes and I watched this entire conversation. So refreshing to see you converse outside of preparing your videos or food reviews. Thank you Steve and Fan!

[@DavidInSugarLand]

When, as a 40 year vegan person, wanted to eat better, I found keto and Fan on YT. Happy to have gone keto and lost the weight I had gained through pandemic months at home. Love her channel!

[@LivPeicanni]

“Terrified of avocados” hahahaha 😂 Son funny

[@KetoCookbooksCorner]

*Fascinating interview! I enjoyed listening to great minds sharing their thoughts* 😍

[@conniedellinger4089]

She’s amazing and explains and teaches in a way I understand ♥️

[@SeriousKeto]

She’s a wonderful person. 🙂

[@sirgeo952]

Awesome interview Steve. Fan is delightful and inspiring.

[@yettawat1564]

So great to see an interview of one of my favorite youtubers ever!!

[@sharonquay]

I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I've been missing Heavenly Fan and this was a good choice. Not just being Keto but a vegan too made it interesting. Great job Steve!

[@debbies8476]

I am so happy you and Fan made this video! AND I am so happy she is back from her "vacation " thank you both! 😊

[@cynthiaanderson14]

What a great interview! Thank you.

[@teachocholic]

Omg! Two of my fave keto peeps! Thanks Steve!

[@harveyh3696]

So nice that the two of you have finally met! Very interesting presentation.

[@jasminedowney2651]

wonderful interview, so happy to finally see you two together, been waiting for almost 2 years lol! 💕

[@athenabrown4559]

Loved this interview! Thanks for all the work you put into bringing these wonderful people on your channel and giving them a voice!

[@alansawesomeketoworld4612]

Great interview. Lots of really cool information and she's is a great speaker

[@maeverlylilith9295]

Thank you Steve & Fan! I’ve truly enjoyed this interview!

[@darlenemcewan1832]

Thanks for the great interview. Great job Steve and Fan.

[@cindee8058]

Great interview! Thanks for introducing Fan to me!!

[@irishpixierose]

Enjoyed your interview with Fan, one of my favorite channels.

[@julianortiz4151]

Loved this interview. Have made Fan’s Heavenly fries a few times and also like a few of her other recipes she’s put out on the tube. The way she answered her favorite benefit of doing Keto was outstanding. She’s right… the standard diet wrecks havoc on you body and Keto more or less takes a large part of that away. That more than anything is my reason to sustain it, which was another brilliant thing she said. You have to get creative and keep on doing it knowing you might slip up here and there. She hit the nail on the head! Thanks for doing these Interviews, Steve. I really enjoy them!

[@ahealthierkirk2558]

Wow! ok so the two of you need to do a Christmas special or something. You guys could just put a video of Penguins marching and talk about it. Let me tell you this, no one falls asleep listening to Eric Berg talk! (lol) If Bob Ross were alive he would be jealous!

[@EK--ry3lr]

Fun video, love hearing from folks across the lifestyle. Thanks for posting.

[@anAeijingBuffoon]

Thanks for your excellent videos. I just started Keto and my brain stopped buzzing -glad I found the reason for all that noise- and making eating fun and really healthy. I almost gave up eating. 👍

[@pei-lucooke4568]

Wonderful interview, both are so articulate and the content is thought provoking, love heavenly Fan!

[@muccia7328]

Love Heavenly Fan! ❤

[@pattylyman7907]

Two wonderful perspectives coming together on Keto as the subject. How great to get all kinds of information from varied aspects. Thank you both

[@jenenegreen4731]

I was rewatching this. Re: your mention of people not giving recipe creators credit. It occurred to me that, even if the privacy of my little index card recipe file, I label items "Steve", "Heavenly", "Wes", etc. 😂

[@SeriousKeto]

I'm honestly flattered. 😊

[@melaniewaggoner1989]

GREAT interview. Thank you.

[@kimhuck6408]

Great interview! Thank you, both, for an interesting video! Love Heavenly Fan and Serious Keto!

[@gregorycickavage8503]

Been practicing vegan keto for about a year now, been vegan over 20 years. Like watching Fan's recipes!

[@botslayer]

Thank you for this interview!

[@moonowl4912]

Yay. So glad to see you interview her.

[@delmariesnodgrass5038]

Thank you for a lovely and informative interview with Heavenly Fan. I watch her channel at times and love her calm demeanor. Even though I am not a vegan I do enjoy some of her recipes. I have found substitutions to include in my keto diet. Be safe and stay healthy.

[@MargieK1]

Thank you Steve for this great interview 😊

[@Carol32547]

Great interview..thank you

[@esther.f.g]

🤩I like her videos, I am not vegan but I incorporate some of her recipes to my favorites, she is so calm and sweet

[@athena03000]

Great interview! I love Fan’s recipes. I try to go 2-3 days per week without meat & her recipes have been a huge help 🙂

[@waynejewett660]

Steve, best interview you’ve ever done. But of course, Heavenly Fam is a treasure. Thank you so much. I’m a strict meat loving keto, but I’m a fan of Fam!

[@SeriousKeto]

She’s such a lovely person in every possible way. It was an honor to have her as a guest. 😉

[@CalgaryGuy]

What a wonderful interview

[@karentzn]

I agree that you make your “diet” sustainable. I’ve from the age of 35 done yo-yo diets. I loose and put on extra. I’m now a diabetic so I see food that will be good for my body and those that will distroy my cells. I’ve never been that way of thinking before. Thrilled I can add Keto to my diet of meats. Thank you

[@judyduran2306]

Thanks for introducing us to these different folks. Very interesting and educational. ❤️🥰❤️

[@deniscalendarcatroun6167]

Great interview Steve. Thanks

[@blondsinger38]

I love your bagel recipe, Fan!! Your recipes are amazing!

[@thors1fan140]

I love both these people. My absolute favorite desert is a vegan carrot cake recipe from hers… I love it and I’m not even vegan!😄

[@MrBDezno]

Cool! My friends are vegan so I've never mentioned keto to them - now I can. :-)