3D Printed ITX done right: The NFC-4TF

[@Lazer3d]

Thanks for the mention, it was a pleasure working with you!

[@JezyYT]

It’s our dream to Collaborate with you Kevin ❤️

[@I__Game]

What is the name of this program that you are designing? I would appreciate it if you could answer ‏‪1:00‬‏

[@JJShankles]

Brass heat inserts are so cheap, and so easy to insert. Any standard soldering iron is all you need, and they work so well!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

They have their place, but if they can be avoided, why not avoid them? Saves time and money....especially if you plan on assembling a ton of them. Thanks for the comment!!!

[@super.brunch]

@@NotFromConcentrate Because they’re much stronger and can handle being used more than 5-10 times. It would suck to spend all this time making a case only to strip the weak plastic threads and have to reprint a part. For something you own as long as a computer case I’d say

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@super.brunch Well the good news is if you want to use them you can. Nothing in the design stops someone from pressing in the 5x5 M3.5 standoffs. I appreciate the comments :D

[@mandryd]

agree that brass inserts are super cheap and easy to insert. It's nice that the CAD files can be had with the project so they would be super easy to mod in.

[@Chrissi33004]

I think the greatest disadvantage of heat inserts is that everyone uses a different size one and you never seem to have the correct size one at home when you need them… which adds up costs really fast

[@Passchen]

I'm blown away by how good this case looks! Thank you, Josh, for your continued commitment to art cases that you can actually build in and use!

[@arkratos3727]

That transition at 1:17 startled me, nice BEARD!

[@seethruhead7119]

Yessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has been my plan for so long. 3dprinting is a saturated market. Combing 3d printing, and inexpensive laser cutting + A NICHE community (SFF!) and you've got a recipe for a real business/hobby

[@semosesam]

Absolutely beautiful! Have you considered designing an eGPU dock? I'd love to see your design aesthetic applied to a super compact enclosure! Would be really cool to see a design that could scale from HHHL single slot to FLFH triple slot. Some of the circuitry for the docks are super tiny now.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Just need a customer for the project!

[@BizlaC]

"It feels fantastic in the hands, it's very solid" That's what she said. On a serious note, what a build, that's a thing of beauty.

[@fueledbyyams]

HOLY BEARD?! I like the new look 👌

[@WillFuI]

I don’t need it. I don’t need it.

[@opx4real]

I NEEEEED IIITTTTTTTT

[@shinythings7]

Really appreciate you highlighting the home laser cutter. Would like to know more about these types of tools and maybe 3d printers you use for similar projects. The vast amount of options available and just having to figure out what would work for some but not others is a hard thing to wade through sometimes.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I KNOW!!! I really do like this one...I haven't tried any other diode lasers first hand but I'm keeping this one for sure. I like the product so I am looking into a Creality 3D Printer now because I need a second one for rapid work. What I can say is I went through years trying to find a Co2 laser and looked at various small ones. No way would I recommend that route. This thing is nearly zero maintenance and as long as you can live with what it can cut (I can) I think it is the best route...not to mention it's waaaaaaay less expensive. Good luck!!!

[@soleenzo893]

OMG it's nearly a perfect successor to the Lone L5!

[@TheCyberSpidey]

Perfect timing, this with chimera OS would make a sweet living room PC. Excellent design as usual! Edit: Open frame lasers are a hazard. I like Creality 3D printers but laser cutters/engravers should be enclosed, it's accident waiting to happen. Users should always have inside an enclosure like your CO2 laser's, and the glass pane should block the wavelength of the diode laser. It's not worth losing your sight, or someone else's after an accidental exposure.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

It's better to be safe than sorry. With glasses it should be pretty safe as the focus of the beam would be so off it couldn't cut anything after a an inch or so and with laser glasses it should be pretty safe. Im concerned about fumes...gotta be very careful what you cut especially if its not outside. Some plastics make chlorine gas when cut!!! Luckily this acrylic is designed for this kinda thing and is safe. THANK YOU for your comment.

[@TheCyberSpidey]

@@NotFromConcentrate Yeah it was more a warning for the viewers than a criticism for you - plus this channel sincerely deserves all the business opportunities as you can get; I have a lot of admiration for you for releasing your designs (not just stls, step files too) :) And yeah, PVC on laser cutters is a big no no - fortunately laser cutting vinyl records isn't a tiktok trend yet, lol. Open frame lasers can be safe, it's just that because of the low price point and how they're marketed, users may not necessarily understand the risk of using one - especially when they're promoted as a desktop tool akin to a 3D printer or something. Thanks again! Also, try incorporating Wood PLA in one of the designs, it stains nicely too just needs a few coats of varnish at the end ;)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@TheCyberSpidey Wood PLA...not heard of that...very interesting thank you for the idea!

[@TheCyberSpidey]

@@NotFromConcentrate plenty of PLA and PETG composites to go around - Wood, Marble, Copperfill, Carbon Fibre, Prusa just announced one with Tungsten if you want radioactive shielding from an overclocked 13900K paired with RTX 4090 :P

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@TheCyberSpidey I do need that

[@tumor0]

I was not ready for that beard. :O

[@professorh8398]

Can't wait to receive mine 😊

[@toddmclaughlin8153]

Nice to see you back.

[@andreasksasse]

Now to the part that really excites me... That beard! 👏

[@MosquitoMade]

The case is cool, but the fun with the diode laser was fun too. I got an xTool 10w diode this winter to play around with. It's been fun to engrave stuff, and I've tried some veneer cutting for marquetry and using it to mark woodworking projects with my logo too. I'll have to try cutting some stuff in the near future, but I haven't quite finished my enclosure for it yet

[@ghost_of_m403]

Great work as always. I have to admit that I instantly started imagining how I would alter the project files to allow for different sized fans and parts. But I guess that's what makes this kind of building fun.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Definitely!!! It's why they are there!!!!

[@nichetcher1]

Beautiful and innovative as usual, Josh!

[@gnomesukno]

Excellent work as usual Josh!

[@CubanLegend561]

the Beard Jump-scared me. 😂

[@walkinmn]

This was amazing and makes me wish for a software to build DIY cases, something that can detect all the parts that you need, dimensions and also play with air flow and temps. I guess it's not really a practical idea, it would be very niche, and if you have the expertise, you already have all or mostly all the software required, but it would definitely be a cool thing to play with.

[@ALPHA.Mods.1]

You could set this up in fusion 360

[@KiraSlith]

Probably the coolest design yet. You should talk to Wendell from L1, he's got a compact server case design he's been fantasizing about for years. I haven't been able to figure out how to build it right, mostly an issue with therigidity of vertically mounted dual-tripple 5.25 bays, but I bet you can think of a solution I didn't.

[@rinma721]

LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL BEARD

[@snap8386]

That was in deed a very high quality job, plans and everything. I wish you have big cases plans for the future. Since power and little size are two opposite directions.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thanks! Please look at my channel for more. Maybe you will like the O6W or O5L?

[@Spyke_misc]

Another beautiful one, and more accessible than ever ! (loved project density, but very specific unfortunately, perhaps when we get big APUs) Really tempted to give that one a try, but i do hope this form factor and low profile gpu will gain more traction, the rtx a2000 is nice, but a bit pricey in europe. Hopefully a 4050 can come out in low profile as well at some point

[@NotFromConcentrate]

keep an eye out for the a2000 used in Europe. I am D I S G U S T E D by Discord members in Europe snagging it used for ridiculously low prices due to the crypto crash. The A4000 LP is very expensive now but golly that would be amazing in this!!!!

[@christiaanventer8183]

my kneejerk reaction to seeing the dents in that Lazar cutter was "oh wow it will survive Lunus, too!"

[@NotFromConcentrate]

i thought the same... :|

[@ShortFuseChannel]

Оригинальный и красивый корпус. Отличная работа.

[@bjornna7767]

Looks very awesome, dude! Very stylish! Also like the idea that you made it as compact as possible.

[@Spreadie]

I have an A2000, just sitting on a shelf. I was gunna sell it... oh, look, a rabbit hole....

[@Jkauppa]

whatever you print, you can always electroplate a conductive coated print with some nice metals, like copper, nickel, zinc, titanium, chromium, gold, silver, platinum, actual metals, can be thick structural metals, ie, electroforming

[@Jkauppa]

electroplating will take care of any non-perfectness of the 3d print, and very easy to polish

[@hdkdante]

Truly an amazing project. I'd like to replicate this with my own version.

[@saintapoc4031]

King of SFF right here!

[@frederickpolk]

Thank you Josh for the project & the video! Hoping you are well and continued success!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thank YOU for always being so supportive and kind!

[@Osheshkooo]

Build and the whole idea is just magnificient my man! I've barely started building my first by-myself pc. I was loking towards making SFF or ITX build myself but I was holded back by prices in my country (Poland of course :D) now i see that in a few months I'll save u for one of these smal precission laser cutters and I'll invest in some software ergo It's a start of the new hobby

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Awesome! Please join our Discord, lots of people there who love making small form factor cases. :D

[@rewind9536]

Perfect for when your PSU catches fire. Everything is fine!

[@peterdynamo584]

Wow Josh, haven’t seen your content for a while and did not expect that beard. Very impressive!

[@Somerandomdude98]

Man, now i wish a SGPC k39 with 2 90mm fan intake at the front would be so sick actually

[@sanderm8955]

Love the material interplay, looks awesome!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Lucky guy getting the first one!!!!

[@axelkusanagi4139]

Wow, that is gorgeous and compact

[@Amybnuy]

i wish they'd make like 750-850w versions of that PSU!

[@mytubemurray]

I love this! Thank you so much for sharing. Cant wait to play around with it.

[@GoingtoHecq]

Designing a pc case for 3d printing is no small task. I have tried it before. I like your approach though because it really minimizes printing and gives great part orientation. It would allow someone to get more out of say a prusa if all lengths could be 250 mm. Personally I have been thinking of making a case where the side panels are all printed too.

[@the_stixXx]

Beautiful! Great size and design. The only thing that bothers me are the burn marks from the lazer.

[@jimchen319]

Can’t wait for this case to be for sale!

[@rosenrusev8656]

for the clear pmma(acrylic) you can try using a black film to absorb the light

[@NotFromConcentrate]

It's a good idea, but I tried that. Also, it won't cut really dark smoke acrylic cleanly which is what I planned on using to start. :(

[@rosenrusev8656]

@@NotFromConcentrate So that means we cannot run without the need for a small CNC too. aparantly i dont have a laser and that stops my creativity at times. Some things are so much easier on a laser than cnc.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@rosenrusev8656 it's about the best tool for the job, and the best tool for the job is usually the one in your shop. Cnc is the most versitle but the hardest. Hand tools take effort and time but produce beautiful results and are inexpensive. 3D printer is easy but doesn't make good looking flat panels...but everything can be printed in this design.

[@empessah]

we need a NAs Build for 4-5 Hardrives that would be sweet especially if it used like off the shelf 5 1/2 hot swap drive cages

[@shodanxx]

Love it, but it needs a sturdy handle option As well as LCD integrated side panel intergrated, hot swappable dual battery bank and flip out and removable , low height mechanilcal keyboard

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Don't forget the soda machine and fax modem

[@frijoles0007]

Heat inserts are NOT expensive nor are they difficult to install....... Especially if the 3D print design is correct. I've been designing and using them from the start of my 3D printing hobby and if I can do them... anyone can

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hey friend. I have too, please check out my other videos. Please note I did not use the word difficult, but they are indeed more expensive than screws and they are trickier to install. Peace!

[@frijoles0007]

@@NotFromConcentrate OK... you said "tricky" ... they are not tricky to install. Plus, while I guess the extra 10-20 cents per insert is (technically) more expensive than just screws.. but not as bad as your tone tries to convey in the video (and for those wondering yes... I buy a set of 200 inserts for anywhere between 7-10USD equivalent).

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@frijoles0007 you can use 5mm long heat inserts in this design if you think they will be stronger than 25mm long screws I specifically designed the part around.

[@chekote]

Oh no. I feel like you just opened up a whole new world that’s going to consume all my time and money. 😂 😅

[@dan8t669]

the files are free to download? wow, thanks

[@YoloVib3s]

Bro I been praying for a re-release of the skyreach 4 tiny. I guess this will have to suffice as an alternate.

[@ivyr336]

In what alternative dimension are brass heat inserts expensive and difficult to install?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hi thanks for the comment. I dunno if you have watched any of my other build videos but I am a big fan of brass heatserts. Little 5mm m3 extruded heatserts are cheap but it's not nearly as cheap when you start going to the asymmetrical m4 + stuff, and it certainly isn't as easy as using a plastic screw. The right tool for the job is what I advocate and I encourage you to take a look at the file and see that screws work here. The good news is if you did want to use brass heatserts I took it into consideration and you can press in the 5mm ones if you really wanted to go that route. But my last design had six heatserts per beam and that is much more costly and time consuming than two screws so I stand by my statement :)

[@Funsiz3dBlacksmith]

You should totally do a velka 5. V2 inspired case. It's a 4.9 l case. I have been trying to find one to print and I suck at 3D modeling so I have not been able to do it yet

[@tcirit]

Awesome.

[@BikZom]

Another really neat case

[@ShreyasDG1]

Hey Man, great Video! Do you think I can fit a rtx 4060 LP in with the usage of slim Case Fans?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Yeah I think so, I would come down to length and I think there is enough room...if not....print it deeper.

[@kennuimuffins2426]

Holy beard Also many thanks for providing the files. You would be well within your right to paywall them or make them patreon only. Have you played around with making cases out of cube standoffs? Like the parvum cases of old. I've got a small stash of 10mm cube standoffs that i've been meaning to use for a while now. Plenty of ways to create a clean look and hide the screw points. If I end up making anything with the files, i'll slide back into your dms :)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I really appreciate your kindness. The cubes are out for me. I wanted something much cleaner that didn't take up space inside. Cubes would have made it impossible to mount the PSU for this. There might be a good use for them but so far I haven't come across one that I really liked. If you do please share!!!! Peace

[@emanueledellefave]

Hi! :) your works are amazing! One question: where do you take the 3D models of fans, psu and cpu cooler? Have you scan them? Because they are verry detailed!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I make allot of them by hand in CAD. Some are made by my friends. Others are downloaded Check out our Discord for more

[@HyrrokkinX]

lets talk about your beard ! XD new saw it !!

[@ANg-yz1zl]

Cool!!! Awesome!!! and thank you for designing and sharing the files. Love the design case and I might 3D print out of ABS because I don't own a laser cutter machine. I was looking through the STL files and found it doesn't include the motherboard tray or top/bottom/side panel in STL files. Does anyone have a way to convert the DXF files to STL so that CURA can read them?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Are you able to import them to a free CAD program and extrude them?

[@segfault-berlin]

Feel like these light wieght enclosureless cutters need tilt interlocks

[@elijahf111]

i like how he called brass inserts too expensive but is using laser cut panels and 3d printed parts. i know 3d printers are cheap nowadays and i have one myself, brass inserts are super cheap and greatly improve thread strength in printed parts. the ones i buy are about 11 cents a piece and come in packs of 100 for less than 10 dollars

[@JamesSullivan-ru4op]

It's gorgeous! Wood and aluminum are better materials though. Problems with acrylic: scratches ridiculously easy, discolors quickly, can't stand up to frequent upgrades (if one does this) or even frequent cleaning and just isn't up to the task of a "normal" home with kids and pets and the random chaos that comes with daily life.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hi James. Please check out my other videos for a dozen or so aluminum cases you can make at home with plans!

[@dwaynestimpson5449]

I want one!

[@yetzt]

dropping lazers like a pro

[@haydenc2742]

Awesome design!

[@yoghourtm7641]

Hey, I just like to ask why wouldn't use countersunk screws for the panels, I'd like to say it can be fabulous with totally flat side panels~

[@NotFromConcentrate]

If I was making it for myself then I probably would, but the entire point was to make it as easy for people to build themselves with as few tools skills or time as possible.

[@yoghourtm7641]

@@NotFromConcentrate All right, thanks mate~

[@lilithstenhouse267]

I hope this comment helps with the algorythm and makes you feel happy

[@LordOfNihil]

nice case. been looking for a cheap laser cutter thats not one of those chinese k40s.

[@trigtm]

awesome work!

[@rroge5]

why you didnt make it tool-less ? im sure there would be a way to make it wedge togeather or tape togeather

[@pizzalord3n]

A worthy contender to Linus drop tips 😂

[@NotFromConcentrate]

That's fair...

[@el3ndiill]

sadly there is no aluminium like filament to consume some heat, plastic is isolator, i made some RPI 4 cases and was too hot.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

All about the design, I'm sure you can come up with something spectacular!

[@SebastianPerez-uo8is]

I just wish us SFX PSU users could get some love too 😣

[@baremetaltechtv]

@Not From Concentrate how do I go about sourcing flat wood like the cherry pieces you have there? Surely that's not something you find at the local home depo or Lowes, no? Is there a special kind of business that focuses on odd shaped wood for carpentry or artists etc?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Yeah man, like, a furniture shop or a lumber yard that sells to furniture makers. Please check out this video where I answer this question directly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6Syp6mkadCpgs0

[@JM-qs7pe]

Wow Very nice ! Any chance you have the wood or acrylic panels which can be 3d printed? I don’t own a laser yet.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Yeah they could be printed no problem. I don't think it would look great, but there is nothing at all about the design that wouldn't work for 3D printing. Also if you are in the USA hit me up and I can make them inexpensively for you.

[@JM-qs7pe]

@@NotFromConcentrate awesome Thank you

[@Shoo8601]

Is it possible to mount the "old" 400w hdplex combo in this case?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

While I do not have a mount designed for it, it is definitely possible because the 400w (with internal fan) is the same length as the 250w GaN. So very reasonably you could stack the DC on top of that or to the side and go. Would rate 80% chance of success.

[@ML_314]

Proposal for next time: Use even LESS light and more black backdrops when presenting the physical thing...

[@aimLined]

can you design a sff case monitor stand?

[@hd-be7di]

It looks nice overall except the screws protruding out... makes it looks unfinished / not refined & it's a shame because it's not a difficult fix.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I purposefully went with them cause I like the look. Like you said it's easy to switch them for anything else you like. Thanks for the comment!

[@hd-be7di]

@@NotFromConcentrate I think it's distracting and takes away from the overall clean aesthetic form... just my opinion as a novice designer.

[@jz4774]

amazing beard

[@SergioDeFalco]

Hi! It's real a great work! Even if it needs a pro equipment in order to build it. I'm realizing that it's missing an important info, what's the motherboard standoffs height? thans and congratulations for your work.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I generally use 10mm standoffs for DIY cases which solves alot of mechanical challenges. I recommend checking out my other build videos for cases that can be built with a jigsaw. This one focuses on 3D prjnting. My goal is to show people how to make their own quality cases with the tools they have. Peace and thanks

[@SergioDeFalco]

@@NotFromConcentrate Thanks!

[@SergioDeFalco]

You told this at 0.53 of this video :P sorry for not noticing it.

[@jonnymeyer8572]

Can you do this in an SLA resin printer?

[@turbina219]

we want to buy it from U. No time left

[@arva1kes]

I would not say that 2-3cents per threaded insert it especially "expensive".

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Many people have pointed this out in the comments. If I could go back and clarify I would have used different language, but I hope you can give me a line of credit in that it's harder to make these videos that it might look, and try to understand the concept I was trying to get across. At any rate, I have many videos where I use threaded nutserts. The cheapo brass m3 ones are very inexpensive, but the very nice ones are actually pricey. It would have been about 9 dollars to use the coned M4 ones I had originally designed the case for, and they would NOT have been as strong. The long threaded screws which only need to be installed once add a metal core to the parts and it really works out well. I am grateful for you taking the time to comment.

[@arva1kes]

@@NotFromConcentrate I do have to admin thats one of the nicest cases. Like you said - using technics how to make not look like 3d printed. I would say that after having a laser, acryloc sheets, nice wood etc. then the inserts are quite free after all that. Also what I have thought is to have acutally threaded rod so it would reinforcve the whole chassis and as it can be tensioned quite strongly it will put tension on the frame and makes it even stronger. Im in search of itx , but iu need full size gpu in there.

[@probablygrim]

Very nice 🙂👍

[@yakine13]

Dudeee this bear lol, people grow so fast...

[@fitz3540]

The fake chuckle thing is really creepy, ngl...

[@professorh8398]

Will two NF-A9 fans fit on the front? Wasn't sure if you were using some extra slim 90 mms on the front rather than standard width 25mm ones.

[@lemovision]

Very cool build, what's the dimensions of the case? I'm doing a similar project atm also with a mix of 3d print parts, and cnc cut acrylic panels (matte black! ;)

[@kennethmatczak3159]

hey josh curious on the dxf files I was importing to sendcutsend but the aluminum gan says its too large for them not sure to go abouit fixing that at all also curious on material thicknesses for this im printing all the skeleton at home but don't have the ability for the others

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Send me an email! I can do all the parts from this build too if you need to outsource.

[@aphilly2158]

dam i wish a i can put my 4080 in this the search for a dope small for m factor case still goes on

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hey check out some of my other videos. I have one called "Project Density" which would be a design that uses this same language but would work for a 4080 with some minor adjustments. Peace and thanks for looking!

[@aphilly2158]

@@NotFromConcentrate 🙏 love your work

[@dandyllionrawr3399]

I’ll buy one if you do decide to sell them…

[@CHAD-wv6is]

Psssst…I want that

[@TheRealDoubleT]

That's really awesome. Where can I find details on the other case you showcase in this video (the black one)?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I don't have alot...maybe on the Patreon where I have the files for it. I'll try to make an instagram post with some more info. Thanks!

[@TheRealDoubleT]

@@NotFromConcentrate Thank you! I have just subscribed to your Patreon! Really nice stuff. Unfortunetely I can't find the link for the S4 Mini.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@TheRealDoubleT www.patreon.com/posts/lazer3d-mini-45360193?Link&

[@TheRealDoubleT]

@@NotFromConcentrate next project PS5 case? That would be awesome

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@TheRealDoubleT ...it's almost done...

[@Born_Stellar]

was any of it actually 3d printed? seems to be mostly laser/cnc.

[@mcheddadi]

beard beard beard. 👀👀👀

[@MightyElemental]

What is that GPU? It's such a cute card 😂

[@WarblyWark]

Will it etch copper or aluminum? (To make heat sinks?)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

not even my giant laser that costs as much as a car will do that. You'll need an industrial fiber laser. You can mark on stainless because it changes color with heat--I didnt try this but you can see some videos of it.

[@WarblyWark]

@@NotFromConcentrate I just use the redneck version. Copper filament (thin copper tape) as the anode. The working part as the cathode. Saltwater as the the gap short and a car battery for power. Though I'm sure one could just use a power supply.