Nothing 2a See Here!

[@charlesdamien5849]

Call for Taylor Swift to be on the waveform podcast for... Research purposes

[@nexusyang4832]

I wonder what her typing speed would be…..😅

[@_daniel.rad_]

Waveform podcast (Taylor's version)

[@_daniel.rad_]

on the way home I wrote a poem, you say, "What a mind" This happens all the time....

[@suprememedjai4433]

No

[@JustXavier]

I want beyoncé to make a random appearance

[@brandonmalin4178]

Andrew's f-bomb being visually blepped with a mechanical keyboard is the attention to detail I love about this podcast

[@shiverpoolcody]

They were busy with this huh?

[@Squirrel10101]

Time stamp?

[@Pocketless]

17:34

[@iambear.6526]

@@shiverpoolcody You were busy with this comment?

[@The_Silver_Lurker]

RGB LED notifications were the unspoken headphone jacks of older phones. It was bright, but subtle. Easy to see from a distance and easily customizable. I had custom colors loaded into a MIUI ROM that also supported custom flash rates for the LED. Slow blink red for email, fast blink red for KZbin, slow blue blink for texts, green for Facebook messenger, etc. Good times with my R2D2 Droid 2.

[@_abdul]

1:05:51 : Zuck is getting trained with his use of words by all these frequent Congress hearings. And he has gotten real good.

[@trunkslion7391]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@babylonian]

i would pay a thousand bucks for the unedited version of this episode LOL

[@Savi-nn9lo]

i feel like the nothing 2a specifically meant for countries like india and other developing nations (in terms of technology) and since i am an indian and i see people around me who spend around 200-250 dollars on a phone might consider this phone and since nothing already has a name for itself in india this might sell a lot in india because of how it looks and the fancy lights

[@memeboooiiii]

this is slowly beecoming my fav podcast

[@Estebanvlqz]

SLOWLY???

[@Felipaugustoex2612]

It's my favorite podcast since the beginning

[@johnestafanos3007]

This quickly became my favorite podcast!

[@mussymuss1]

I don't even listen to podcasts but I faithfully listen to waveform.

[@shiverpoolcody]

Favourite since I found it 😂

[@EmmanuelCrown]

58:22 for the neuro interface what they are working on is a wristband that reads the signals sent by your brain to your hand for hand control using the brain

[@NerdOfGalaxy]

Waiting for its fourth iteration so we'll get Nothing 2c

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

I understood that reference... 🤣🤣🤣

[@BenMilford]

😂

[@brunomcleod]

Nice one

[@Stephen_Lafferty]

14:40 - great to hear @RickBeato namechecked by David for his Spotify Top Ten videos!

[@guitarfumar]

Named him wrong, but sure.

[@Garythefireman66]

Pronounced BEE-Ah-Tow

[@mattjgraham]

Finally, the weekend, guys, in the UK, and as ever, the waveform is starting for me! Thanks guys as always

[@bjojosimpson]

Matt!

[@ElijahChikondi]

Sameeee

[@baxterboy123yt]

It's Friday for me, I'm in the UK....do you count the weekend as starting on a Friday?

[@ethanimooney]

"And now you can't say we didn't talk about it!" Never change Ellis, never change

[@connorthedude1]

I think that a more fair comparison in terms of specs and immersion for the Vision Pro is the PSVR2. PSVR2 is HDR OLED 4k 120hz per eye, 110 degree FOV, an absurdly bright display, incredible haptics in the headset and controllers, and it also has eye tracking with foveated rendering. It also has no light leakage from the edges of the headset and no screen door effect. However, it has Franell lenses instead of pancake lenses, and it doesn't have full color passthrough, hand tracking, or built in speakers, as it is purely for gaming. I understand these both have very different uses, but I think it's worth mentioning that a lot of what the Vision Pro is doing isn't anything new.

[@esaedvik]

The PPD on PSVR2 is pretty bad though (almost half that of AVP and Varjo XR-4). I guess eye-tracking and foveated rendering would help compensate with that though. And it has a pentile screen and 2 subpixels per pixel (AVP and XR-4 have 3 and they're RGBB π subpixel arrangement and diamond RGB)

[@zaneplatt3533]

​@@esaedvikit is also many, many times the price...

[@esaedvik]

@@zaneplatt3533 Absolutely, something has to be worse for that price.

[@justincosta89]

Honestly, my favorite weekly podcast. Keep it up! I still want to see some kind of Jeopardy style writing of answers on tablets or something. Or.. or.. a Jeopardy style episode for the guys once a year. Also, I know you guys have video monitors, for longer or multiple choice questions, is it possible for you to put those up for the guys? Just a random thought, not an actual issue. Keep it up Ellis and Adam! Don’t make the questions any easier! 😂

[@kindofanmol]

The Dimensity7200 Ultra is almost a flagship chipset. Incredibly capable for that price range.

[@spencerledbetter8388]

The Sony Xperia Z1 had a colored notification LED that was different colors for different types of notifications. I agree that they should bring that back.

[@ScottANorman]

I have never heard of Eiffel 65…just Blue…but the *Fire* squeak from Marques at 16:13 sent me down the rabbit hole and I have now listened to more Eiffel 65 than I ever planned too 😂

[@Leanzazzy]

From the time these guys started talking about the Dimensity SoC, I understood how little they actually know about other phones and chips that aren't mainstream. The 7200 Ultra isn't their flagship series (that would be the 9000 series) but it is pretty decent. It comes right below the Snapdragon 870 in terms of pure benchmarking performance, but as anyone who is a power user knows, that isn't the whole story. Dimensity SoCs have almost no support from the community and are incompatible with most famous mods like Gcam etc (which are usually only for SD SoCs), their gaming performance is pretty bad (nothing comes close to Adreno), and there are almost no ROMs for Dimensity-powered phones. If you're going to give it to your parents or someone who is never going to root or mod the phone, it's fine. But to a power user, it's terrible. There absolutely were huge differences between the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and 8 Gen 2. The former was just another power-hungry beast which had terrible thermal performance and throttled very quickly in most phones, whereas the 8 Gen 2 is by far one of their most stable and cool SoCs. There were pretty big leaps in performance between the two, I think it was 30% better CPU and 40% better GPU (I'm not sure, need to check to confirm). I know for a fact the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 also brought huge changes, most noticeably the AI changes. There's a new dedicated AI engine which massively increases everything, from camera speeds to gaming etc. In fact the gaming performance is up by over 50% compared to the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, particularly in terms of ray-tracing and other AI technologies.

[@seancca]

Rick actually talks about the UMG/TikTok thing and says this is a bad move for UMG. I also have seen a load of their own signed artists upset with that along with artist that didn't know they even had music distributed by UMG. I think they made a bad choice in doing this, though I do agree I have seen a few songs that seem like they were just written to be a TikTok sound and nothing more.

[@Superninja71]

Need “fire” from 16:18 to be a reoccurring sound byte

[@PrajwalDSouza]

What's been amazing about quest is the updates. The hand tracking wasn't even a thing when I got the quest 2. It came as an update later.

[@nadamuchu]

I cant wait for Techpril, Techay, Techune, Techuly, and Techgust.

[@BryanMahata]

His continuous attempt to try and make catchy wordplay using Tech is both commendable and hilarious 😂

[@thefourthfry]

we'll be watching as the tears roll by

[@onalethatarampogo385]

'Mark Zuckerberg famously names all of his cows after famous kickboxers' WOW, that's a well crafted joke Ellis... But that's something he would do though!!!🤣

[@keiz_]

A quick example to Marques' point about a small artist blowing up because a song on TikTok is Imase and his song "Night Dancer." He learned how to make music in a year, and tiktok helped him start a career in music.

[@hyperactiv8]

Who?

[@keiz_]

​@@hyperactiv8imase, he's a Japanese music artist. Night Dancer got super popular even outside Japan, so he also made a Korean and English version of the song.

[@Pokebilities]

30:22 the Xperia 1 line still has a customizable LED. The logout thing I don't like I'd android doesn't use it for the green light for when the camera in in use, it just shows it on the screen

[@aizatarchibald5368]

1:22:33 Those who listen to podcasts would appreciate this so much that a discussion was convened

[@zipobob1]

1:24:32 "ohh, man people used to be mad at me a lot" 😂 1:25:04 "Mclinker" and David's burst of laughter🤣

[@brwnsgr3245]

Slowly but surely going through all the episodes of this podcast and loving it.

[@talklein39]

Ellis (god I hope I'm writing it correctly) talked about having a quest 3 work flow. I have a quest 3, I consider myself to be very technological, and yet I haven't found the time or energy to dig deep enough and find ways to work with it. Bottom line, what I'm saying is, I don't want an Ellis video on this, I want an Ellis series of videos, from the very beginning to the point were you can have work sessions like he describes because it sounds so cool! I'm sure a bunch of people would love to see it

[@babylonian]

same! i’d love that, it would be a perfect Studio video

[@miavaughn2393]

He IS apparently correct on quest 3 hand tracking being better. You can see this on certain apps. Like new piano apps, any that rely EXCLUSIVELY on hand tracking. It’s not great. The reason it’s so much better on Vision Pro is it is attached to eye tracking which as you guys said only then needs a pinching gesture. This is the illusion of better hand tracking the Vision Pro gives you.

[@esaedvik]

Varjo's headsets (at least the older VR-3/XR-3) have Ultraleap's hand tracking tech built in. Ultraleap used to be know as Leap Motion and they had a hand-tracker on Kickstarter ages ago. Was really nice, but I don't think it sold too well, so they got acquired and renamed a bit.

[@jaxfilm]

maybe I’m just sleep deprived but McLinker had me absolutely dying, so funny

[@kjeldkaj]

David (and the blue-shirt guy) are really underestimating Tiktok in my opinion. I couldn't agree more with Andrew in this case

[@AdamZugone]

😭 the blue shirt guy. I love that

[@brunomcleod]

@@AdamZugone There's a guy in the Brownie KZbin channel who's also got that nickname

[@LostinaMemory]

Brooooo I listened to half of this video audio only and thought that the man in gray on the left was Marques.. Their voices sound so much alike!

[@U2haveanicedayty2]

Have not been on watching my favorites lately but I really enjoyed guy's. Thanks for sharing. ✌️ 💯

[@diwavs4546]

16:02 that “Mhhh…” was sooo satisfying😂

[@ShaiMargolis]

My weekly waveform podcast session is on!!🎉🎉

[@tylerwilkison1487]

30:29 I have the S23U and I LOVE using the Edge Lighting because they're all color coded so I don't have to pick up my phone and look at it every time it buzzes

[@jfreshh330]

If you look up smartphone SOC benchmark rankings I’m pretty sure the Mediatek Dimensity 9200 is at the top above the gen 3

[@Darkman24]

It's Rick Beato (BEE - ah - toe) Great guy and awesome channel!

[@KA-lt2tu]

The best part of my week!

[@toptiertech7291]

1:11:54 David fell into that trap of “global” market share. There’s a reason the highest selling androids are $100-225 Samsung phones. The majority of the people in the world live in India, china and African nations. Like more than half the people live in those 3 places. The overwhelming majority of people who can afford an iPhone. Buy one. Apple is the majority in almost every European country, Canada and a lot of South America. Why do people think they ship the most phones worldwide ?

[@johnculver40]

Really enjoyed this episode. I would love to hear a deeper dive of how TikTok’s entry into the market place is affecting career growth for new musicians and how much power record labels have in dictating which musicians’ careers grow.

[@Bo-electric]

Up to $300 phones I've had never had a case on. But now with a $800 high end phone with 5 years updates a case is on even if I'm not a person who drops the phone. $800 is a lot of money.

[@peteo4328]

16:20 wow this recognition on Eiffel65's legacy!! nothing but RESPECT for guys 🔥😭❤️

[@GeneralChaz9]

I think it'd be interesting to do a comparison of Snapdragon and MediaTek based phones on the main channel. The MediaTek Dimensity 9300 is extremely overkill on the CPU side of things and the GPU is able to keep up with the Qualcomm Adreno GPU. I mean just look at the Dimensity 9300 specs, it has four X4 cores and four A720 cores. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 has one X4, five A720, and two A520. Anyways, could be a way to check how much on-paper specs matter vs real world usage. However GSMArena only lists four phones with the 9300, and they're all Vivo/Oppo. lol

[@unkitjc]

I was thinking the same but then I think the comparison/benchmark testing isn't really their style, and that Mediatek chipset phones aren't really a thing in the USA. I am using a Vivo x90 with Dimesnity 9200 & a x100 Pro with Dimesnity 9300, the battery life and overall performance is very, very good

[@GeneralChaz9]

@@unkitjc I agree that it isn't really their style, but they didn't seem to take Mediatek's chips too seriously but it's probably due to how bad the Helio series got. It also doesn't help that the Helio G series is still releasing in some devices. Lol

[@The_Durrs]

The bonus question at the end was awesome! Throw one in every once in a while but as a random at the end so that way no one knows.

[@RunDaChansey]

55:52 Marques just so you know you guys could have spent an entire podcast talking about that video, it's endlessly fascinating.. When do you get a tech CEO reviewing his own and his competitor's product???

[@JustXavier]

I will not apologize for dancing to the trivia theme music. This is just a part of who I am now.

[@arumaakadalamudhan.t9900]

I think Nothing will do somewhere in btw 349 - 399 USD$ - US 22,999 - 34,999 INR - IND Let's see!

[@TheBoss-bo1sc]

Guys, we keep talking about how the quest 3 and the Vision Pro have different use cases and if you want to play games, you get a quest etc. But this is the Vision PRO, what if it the regular vision that apple makes is more mainstreamed and is the quest killer, offering controllers and more game friendly Pls somebody see this comment

[@Californ1a]

1:17:25 - Out of all the 3D short animated movie content, I think NightMara really pulled it off the best; they properly direct your attention so you're looking the right way for every scene and don't need multiple rewatches to make sure you didn't miss stuff (though they do hide some easter egg stuff if you do rewatch it). Though it has taken a long, long time to create those. They're 15min episodes and it's been about a year between each episode releasing, episode 3 just recently came out and it'll probably be another year before ep4.

[@KiwanukaKenneth-i6w]

when you come from another video and listen to this first time is when you get to know you've been listening to substandard audio.

[@esaedvik]

I love the Zuck called Kenny a "friend" lol

[@zaneplatt3533]

In Australia the vision pro is over $6000 dollars while the meta quest 3 is $1000 at most. For that price difference, the vision pro should be dramatically better at everything. The fact that the meta quest 3 competes at all and betters the vision pro in certain areas is pretty wild.

[@josh_wags]

Whoa! That WVFRM trivia site is 🔥

[@erikmcgregor]

55:54 I think a good comparasion here is the physical keyboard back in the Blackberry vs. iPhone days.

[@Samersmadi5]

This podcast deserves every sec I waited for it to be published

[@TheElementSwing]

30:00 I think you can add a light circle around the front camera to do the same thing. At least on goodlock.

[@melissa.deklerk]

Thank you for mentioning Rick Beato ("be-ah-toe"). He's great. Knowledgeable and very interesting to listen to. I've followed him for a while, so it was a merging of 2 of my bubbles to hear David mention Rick.

[@MorningStarNews]

43:46 You definitely can buy the light seal cushion separately.

[@not4273]

Hand tracking for quest is actually really really good I guess ill have to make a video on it.

[@DeeNic3]

Love the pod guys keeps me interested the full show.

[@Xsellence]

I think what Zuck is getting at re: hand tracking being “better” on the Quest 3 is that it tracks your hands well if you move them quickly (which is helpful for gaming). The Vision Pro seems to lag behind a bit.

[@rick-potts]

Blackberry LED was God Tier programmable. I knew who was calling and being ignored just by looking at the LED across the room.

[@Loner82]

I just discovered this podcast and love that i can see this on youtube cause i never actually "listen" to podcasts. I do love watching them though! lol

[@sriramsitharaman]

When AB testing which thumbnail to choose, does KZbin give you the option on what metric to choose to determine the success ? Would you care about Click through Rate but only from new users ? I wonder with those minor changes( natural vs silver titanium) that you mentioned might not matter that much for existing users of the channel. They probably might click it anyways! 7:02

[@SteeleMan223]

Been looking for a solid tech podcast and just happened upon this one. Great stuff

[@yehudadm]

1:14:21 the M2 supports only one external display

[@Act_True]

1:00:53 I don’t think it is recognizing the display. I saw a Luke Miami video where he took the display off of the MacBook and the Vision Pro still recognized the MacBook and had the hovering connect button. This leads me to believe that it is most likely recognizing the MacBook keyboard. Interesting🤨

[@alxcia]

The tag at the end was perfection😂

[@RoadUser_Motovlog]

there was the nokia 3220 that was the GOAT of RGB LED notifications. it had 4 bumpers, 2 on each side, completely RGB, they animated with the music and you could customize them depending on the notification (granted they were simpler back then).

[@ShaazK-24]

This video is Awsome🎉

[@TheBismrk]

It's surprising that, with all the phones that support always on, there aren't ROMs that have faux notification LEDs as an alternative.

[@akd-R]

Nexus 6 had some moto brand feature - when we touch the phone, take it from table or pocket. it will give some widget screen where its show app specific notification, call and sms details. Due to this they disabled the the RGB notification light, its my guess.

[@dman7895]

Rick Beato very interesting. good videos. love some of his interviews, and take on modern music and technology

[@AndroidDigest]

I just reviewed the Quest 3, and one of the BIGGEST things to consider is profiles. The Vision Pro does not have profiles, so each person in the house will have to buy their own Vision Pro. I don't want my kids seeing my text messages and my wife and I want separate profiles for games. Forcing people to pay $3,500 for their own headset in the same house is a HUGE loss. This is not a headset that's good for a normal family, and the Quest 3 really can do most of what the Vision Pro can.

[@FilmyReact]

26:00 for me I still like the Nothing 2 design, it's way much better.

[@potatoman7475]

looking forward to the Ellis Studio, really enjoyed David's. Keep going nerds.

[@brunomcleod]

1:14:01 I was just spinning around my ginger beer bottle and he said "can you not" and I instinctively stopped 😂

[@jatinderveersingh]

Is there a way for people to see all A/B thumbnails that people didnt get to see? Maybe on the website or maybe a hyperlink in the description of the youtube video?

[@hknli]

0:42 I love the mean girls reference from Andrew

[@chasrifflord]

Every Friday I'm like a kid in the candy store waiting for the WVFRM podcast to drop this is definitely my favorite podcast ❤

[@neoqe6lb]

David should do a bonus episode on LLMs and Sora with someone like Andrej Karpathy as guest.

[@bartymurns]

I love the new competition and one up-manship that has been introduced to the VR/etc space. I cant wait for competitors to take all the good bits of vision pro and bring the cost down to an amount Im willing to spend for a fun games machine.

[@blueyc4rter]

Why do people care about what refresh rate their phone is? I always turn it down to lowest setting to save battery life..

[@eugeneokons]

this is the earliest I've ever been

[@Zack-dw5op]

When you mentioned nothing phone 2a and "a tech ceo reviewing their own product" in the same sentence, I would have bet my life savings you were taking about Carl Pei lol

[@LeonNeuton]

Blessings from Jamaica 🇯🇲!

[@thelonelyloner7]

Hands down best show on KZbin. 💯 Always looking forward to the new episode

[@Memepolicedoggo]

Tiktok doesn't need UMG, other than the first few days when people were memeing it I have seen no change in my fyp, people just use custom sounds of the songs. This is objectively worse for artists because they won't see a penny of that money

[@IanZainea1990]

1:17:59 3D will never take off as a story telling format. Especially in the way David just described. Story telling is as old as humanity, and stories happen linearly. That's how we want them.

[@DougAndersonisnotdougfunny]

Late to the comments, but I'm so glad you guys brought up the old LED notification light. That was one of my favorite features, and it was ripped away from us for always on displays. No thanks, give me the light.

[@rosetheblackcat]

One of the points that wasn't brought up in this podcast is the fact that a first generation product is being compared to a product that's been iterated several times already and is relatively mature when compared to the Vision Pro

[@sekharraja9679]

so, will you ever out out a video filmed on the iphone in the vison 3d mode for people with vision pro and quests

[@nexusyang4832]

0:22 - I’m not sure if I should be proud or sad that I understood that sentence and can validate that it is a correct one… 😂😂😂😢😢😢😅😅😅

[@julesm1434]

Crying at 'Febtechruary' 🤣🤣🤣

[@SrijanChakraborty]

Why is the Quest 3, which sits on your face horizontally, shooting a vertical video? Isn't that weird?

[@ArseniyKruglov]

0:35 - maybe you should add black outline or hard shadow to make hosts' names more readable

[@RaiderWally59]

100% agree with Andrew on the TikTok music topic

[@confused.cat.]

Mediatek uses dimensity name for all their chips now, their 9000 series is their flagship 8 series competitor, the current flagship is 9300, and its as fast as the 8 gen 3, and many are saying that it has better thermals as well

[@mommyofceos]

All day yesterday I thought it was Friday and kept thinking where is Waveform...finally! Let the weekend begin! ❤