Thoughts on the Humane AI Pin

This week, there was a surprising amount of big news but one eclipsed the others. Marques, Andrew, and David talk about experiencing a total eclipse and the new Find My Device on Android network before diving deep into the Humane AI Pin. Marques is still working on his review so these are his first thoughts and impressions on the device after using it for a few days. At the end, we play Headlines in a Hat with a 1-sentence twist before closing it out with some trivia. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:04 Earthquake & Solar Eclipse Storytime
13:01 Android Find My Device Network
20:49 Trivia
22:17 Aorus (Sponsored)
24:32 Humane AI Pin
01:09:18 Trivia
01:10:15 Shopify (Sponsored)
01:11:27 Headlines in a Hat
01:27:17 Trivia Answers
01:32:44 Outro
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[@internetshaquille]

the way I speed-sang Chip Skylark's "My Shiny Teeth and Me" to get the answer when trivia came up

[@Molemanski]

What an absolute pleasure seeing you here Shaq

[@GreenShellShock]

"Why should I talk to you when I got 32? WOO"

[@kegstandjesus]

shaq why do you watch literally every youtuber i watch

[@KennethMorris-nn3wc]

No one said anything about it looks like star 💫 trek and beyond

[@Owen-Rich]

SAME 🤣

[@auroragb]

marquez: call me an Uber assistant: ok, you're an Uber

[@jordancassidy03]

Marques*

[@HVM_fi]

You forget the annoying long pause.

[@feisaljauharitufail]

insert an internet connecting sound.

[@bashbifaananyi3136]

Since you asked for context😂😂😂

[@RAXITH_playz]

@@jordancassidy03*mosquito

[@URSet2Fail]

I snickered at this doodle 🔥

[@mrpurpleorc]

🍪

[@k_mish]

Snickerdoodle!!!

[@ArmaanMudarris-mg2eo]

SNICKERDOODLE !! 🎉

[@nancynoel2247]

Snickerdoodle

[@karanvenkatesh8004]

Snickerdoodle, I don't know how, but I enjoy listening to your podcast every week. It's so wholesome, just a couple of people goofing around and speaking their minds. I really, really enjoy your banter. Keep it up!

[@naresh1024]

What do they mean 6 hour episode??

[@SnappyJCM800]

Can I just say thank you guys for making these videos. This week has been a tough week losing my kids mom and watching you channels along with some others has helped me distract myself when things get really tough. Keep up the great content and thank you for keeping us entertained

[@hansen-house]

“Are we only counting mouth teeth” is the WORST tag ending this podcast has ever had. Good job Andrew

[@hansen-house]

Also, snickerdoodle.

[@ArtisticNightmares]

Bedteeth lel

[@jeaneliel]

Where else does Andrew have teeth?

[@alexwelch7198]

Does anyone remember the movie "teeth"😅

[@_daniel.rad_]

Don't ask questions like that 😅​@@jeaneliel

[@bigtakeshi]

Steve Jobs famously said when you introduce a new category of device, it has to be BETTER at doing things than previous devices. The problem with the Humane AI Pin is it isn't BETTER at anything. For the Pin's engineers having come from Apple, they should've known better!

[@xsleep1]

I'll guess that in the developer's pie-in-the-sky they thought they could get Apple and Android to allow integration into those networks thus making the device an extension of iCloud or Google (was never going to happen). Or, they thought they could sell the company to Apple or Google (could still happen).

[@barobaro1]

This is not a "new category of device", it's literally a mini-phone clipped onto your shirt.

[@vresnuil]

@@barobaro1by that logic, smart watches are just phones on your wrist, which is kinda true

[@asth3tique]

@@xsleep1 You're probably right, its a Proof of Concept to be bought up, perhaps.

[@barobaro1]

​@@vresnuil I mean... they are

[@adriendesentenac]

Marques: "like when the iPod came out, I want to listen to music everywhere, I couldn't do that before" Sony Walkman: "Snickerdoodle!"

[@selfhelpguy5589]

"You're tied in first place. You've carried the one bro!"- Ellis is hilarious🤣

[@alezanders]

1:02:07 Andrew saying “it looks like an Apple Watch with a forehead” so nonchalantly made me drop my weights 😭😭

[@Dankflamio]

I was SHOCKED when I saw totality, I saw partial eclipses before and it is not comparable at ALL. Seeing the kind of light, the sudden chilly breeze, the darkness that completely changes the way colors look, and the sharp black hole in the sky with a spiky halo of light around it. Magic.

[@kevinjohnston4923]

Yeah, the sun shades were a waste of time. Just look at the 100% total eclipse with binoculars.

[@katherinelangford981]

Agreed. We sat in the backyard and watched it and it was just sort of shocking. The chill, the darkness, it was weirdly quiet, and then gasps. Very neat.

[@price.gaines]

My favorite weekends are when Waveform is over 1.5 hours and WAN Show is over 4 hours. This is a good weekend.

[@jfreshh330]

Lmao me too. Wvfrm comes out afternoon and WAN comes out at the end of the day

[@onuryildiz4419]

Wow that snickerdoodle headline was crazy! Maybe next time for headline in a hat you could do 1 minute per person per headline instead of one sentence? Seems like a good way of keeping it short while everyone being able to get all their thoughts out

[@imayes]

A total solar eclipse is something that if you haven't seen it, you just don't know what you're missing. No picture captures the feeling. Some people thought the applause and cheers on video was cringe, but complete awe is your instinctual reaction to seeing it in person. Partial eclipses really undersell how cool totality is.

[@godminnette2]

I had to cancel plans to enter the totality at the last minute, so instead I was at hope in SE Michigan at 99%... and yeah, as David said, completely underwhelming. Hoping to visit my family in Europe to see on in August 2026.

[@imchrissheldon]

i remember seeing it in 2017 and just had to applaud i was just dumbfounded 😂

[@7techno77]

It was cloudy where I was. Fastest I've seen it get so dark though

[@JeskidoYT]

It sucks that more than 33% of the country only got to experience partial eclipse.

[@adam-k]

​@@johchadow I have seen one total solar eclipse. I am 50 now. When the sun appeared was the only time in my life when I spontaneously started cheering and clapping. So did everybody else around me. A total solar eclipse is just something else.

[@dinocupdc7160]

I really enjoyed when Marques had that snickerdoodle in his hat

[@itsbdullah]

Appreciate the edit to log when it got mentioned

[@fmenajr]

snickerdoodle (i listened on spotify 2 hours ago lololol)

[@rub1xbtw]

Same bro 😂😂

[@TreesPlease42]

Snickerdoodle

[@osodoso]

Snickerdoodle

[@matthewblackwell284]

I love this new long form podcast, LNGFRM.

[@KristiinaKasepaluHarakas]

Andrew! Congrats on the lead ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ so happy for you Hello from estonia 🇪🇪✨

[@jackham2549]

I drove from WA to AR to see the eclipse (2nd one). They are amazing and each one you get more out of it. I'm amazed at how many people aren't interested in seeing total eclipse

[@PK-ot8rt]

Let the Humane AI pin roast begin 🤣

[@PrinceJes]

Cringe

[@ElricZ]

The Humane AI pin is indeed cringe

[@PrinceJes]

@@ElricZ your comment is cringe you sound like you're 13

[@ElricZ]

@PrinceJes You're the one that used the word cringe first and you don't have proper punctuation or capitalization... so it seems like you're the 13 year old here.

[@ElricZ]

@PrinceJes Don't be mad that this stupid thing is a failure and doesn't work so people are making fun of it.

[@Dankflamio]

Sending messages for making calls and using a voice assistant are already pretty good on smart watches. Also the AI pin idea seems way better suited on sunglasses like the meta smart glasses. That way the speaker is already near your ears and the camera is already your eyes unobstructed.

[@Great.Username]

You bring up a great point. This device could just be Google glasses, but add AI. Would it sell? Uh ... Maybe. Will it sell in it's current state? Not to consumers but maybe another company will buy it and either kill it or cannibalize its ideas

[@penguin_gym]

18:09 If you have Google Maps on your phone, you can just tap the blue thingy that shows your current location and there's a "Save parking" button

[@joegandini5388]

If you connect Bluetooth to your car, Apple Maps saves parked car information automatically based on when the Bluetooth was disconnected (as what happens when you turn the car off)

[@jonschmidt2]

Andrew is going to win this season of trivia!! Let’s goooo 🔥🔥

[@guyabetes9174]

The transition from serene silence to the sudden burst of birdsong, as if it were a new day, was incredible in the aftermath of the solar eclipse.

[@Jezee213]

YES!! I noticed everything went quiet, no chirping, the street lights came on, it was so eerie

[@mattjgraham]

It's finally the weekend starter in the UK, guys! Thank you Waveform for making me happy :)

[@kmanojraja]

Loved the trivia section! Marquez coutning 24 teeth twice made LOL.

[@ebonhawken574]

Glad your honest about the product, many KZbinrs are afraid to tell it how it is.

[@Jezee213]

Great episode guys. The eclipse was the coolest thing I've ever seen, I got full coverage and yes the difference is massive. Oh and SNICKERDOODLE!

[@AronBraggans]

snickerdoodle i'm here for it!

[@shellyreed2373]

Im drom Springfield Ohio and hearing you guys talk about this and also SKyline was priceless!

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@EarlsPearls]

Bro, I was IN the dentist chair getting an implant during the earthquake. Already not a fun experience and we had to stop mid point for 20 minutes.

[@Noah.Bessler]

As a native of Cincinnati. The fact that you liked Skyline made me so happy. Haha, it's a hit or miss for people who weren't raised bathing in Cincinnati chili from a young age.

[@Xtuck420x]

The debate is skyline vs gold star 🤔

[@jkoneill]

Snickerdoodle

[@Sp_ceman]

SNICKERDOODLE!!! 🎉🎉 Keep it up guys. Love the pod.

[@PhilKnall]

Huh, that's the best explanation of a totality I've heard. I want to see one now!

[@simplemindedmoron]

The killer app present on the Humane ai pin is Paper weight

[@Autoblox0]

Wowee a new episode right as im going to bed surprised me there haha 😂 usually the video ones come at midnight of Saturday

[@how.to.do.stuff.101]

Where in the world do u live

[@peterlumwanga428]

What part of the world do you live in it’s morning here

[@TheKnittingClubPodcast]

Missing teeth, and still bringing good vibes. Way to go, man!

[@adarshvemali2966]

Hat headlines is so amazing!

[@GabbiHilson]

I love Fridays! :)

[@AlbertoAB06]

As I was listening to the podcast I was thinking, isn't the humane pin just a smartwatch but on your shirt?? And wouldn't it just be possible to improve Siri or Google Assistant and achieve the same result??

[@copypasta1585]

Exactly. From a computing hardware perspective, it's just a worse version of your smartphone. In other words, all of the LLM stuff it can do, your phone can actually do better. I actually don't understand why someone would ever think this is a good idea beyond just "cool sci-fi-ish idea is cool"

[@SydPeppa]

7:21 I've experienced total solar eclipse twice back in high school. So dope!

[@antonioduverge3558]

Marques must be the coolest boss to work with!

[@osvaldosaez5689]

This was my first total eclipse, and they're totally right. Partial is different because even the tiniest sliver of the Sun not being covered by the Moon emits so much light that you can't look at it directly, and looking through eclipse glasses makes you lose too much detail of the Sun. But when totality hits, you can look straight at it, and the Sun's corona is just a thin layer of light. It's gorgeous and humbling. Sadly, this only happens because the Sun is almost 400 times bigger than our Moon, and the distance from it right now fits perfectly to oclude the Sun in its totality. However, because the Moon is escaping Earth's gravity, eventually, there won't be any more total eclipses. I can't image the sadness of the last humans to see this incredible phenomenon, at least I got to see it once.

[@Ash-tv4ow]

Well the sun will probably explode long before the moon leaves the earth’s orbit

[@bread3613]

Almost 400? Boy are your numbers wrong 💀

[@AnnAmbler]

8:34 Gotta love the Skyline Chili reference, especially the pile o' cheese. 😁😋

[@AnnAmbler]

And 12:44 🤣

[@Zack-dw5op]

I think the best live translation imo works automatically any time you see or hear another language, it just automatically translates without you having to even input

[@alexbaytenov]

Way to go, Andrew!!

[@srikanthsusarla3494]

I was watching and having lunch and I legit choked at the end. "Are we counting only mouth teeth?" 😂😂😂😂 Where else do you have teeth???

[@kiromi790]

vargena

[@megatronskneecap]

$24 a month for a clothing accessory that tells you what your tasks are today is a blatant scam.

[@B2Roland]

Welcome to tech

[@quibbage101]

A single $700 payment for a note taking device is ludicrous. Let alone a $24/month subscription.

[@PatrickSchraner]

I really like Andrew's idea of having an assistant (device) connected to your phone and being able to keep your phone in your backpack. I noticed how much I would prefer that on a recent trip. I prefer taking pictures with my camera and use my phone basically for maps, music and texting, if it can take over these tasks then that would be enough for me to give it a try.

[@arrshbajaj8503]

The car parked feature is there if you use Apple Maps . My car always gets stored as a pin called parked car if your iPhone was connected to Apple CarPlay

[@bharathsr]

The idea of Human Ai pin is hilarious to me (at least how it is being implemented) people in US can't even digest two messaging apps let alone 2 separate phone numbers

[@JerzyLasica]

google vids = windows movie maker

[@Tskr457]

Snickerdoodle!!! Love listening to y'all on Friday on apple podcasts

[@MarioAtkins-gf1ig]

Bought the AI Pin for a blind family member. Still waiting to receive. After seeing your review, considering canceling. Thought the idea of the pin being able to describe what it sees in detail was a huge selling point for visually impaired. Even make calls, text, remind, etc. So many other questions for you. Feel like this has a lot of potential to improve my family member's quality of life but for $700 and $24 a month 😬 .

[@Zack-dw5op]

"It's crawlin baby" "the fish doesn't have lungs yet" 😂🤣

[@rodrymcf]

snickerdoodle

[@nicoallauca]

I didn't know the podcast was so much fun

[@NickErdman]

i drove 10 hours in 2017 to see the eclipse in totality. absolutely worth it

[@BreakawayB]

🥵 Don’t call yourself true _AI Pin believer_ if you don’t have a square chest blister! ♨️

[@Humphrey_Does_Stuff]

ARC IS ON WINDOWSSSSS

[@superpixels4573]

great word pick lol snickerdoodles are my favorite!!!!

[@Hello_Apee]

Celebrated my 27th Birthday under the total solar eclipse with my family was absolutely incredible - once in a lifetime 🙏

[@cloidless]

One thing i think the ai pin would do really well for me, is capturing memories and staying in the moment. I have never been good at capturing memories, with my phone or my actual camera. They make me try and get the perfect photo, which results in a lot of friction, and therefore less memories to look back on and remember. Capturing memories on the ai pin, is probably as close to zero friction as you can get, and it forces me to not take a perfect photo. Because there is no way to frame it. But that's the thing, these memories doesn't have to be perfect photos. I just need to able to show to my family and friends, and say "i was here and this is what i saw". And maybe most importantly, a couple of years later, I can look at these photos and remember it like I was there, because I was there not focusing on taking the perfect photo, but being in the moment.

[@christophersim6675]

You can just get the Meta Raybans and do exactly the same thing you're describing but 10x better and 3x cheaper.

[@cloidless]

@@christophersim6675 Not sure i wanna wear something on my face all the time

[@The_Chronomaniac]

Rabbit owner here: I think cats are 100% stinkier than rabbits. In fact, rabbits are "naturally odorless" according to google. I want an apology Ellis

[@rileymcentire2926]

The basics of not pairing with your phone, not at all even a little, is truly mind blowing. I’m an early adopter of AI Pin, so I’m hopeful, but the phone number and no connection to your existing phone is just a huge no bueno.

[@JB_Peace_]

As a third year dental student, I love the dental representation in the trivia!

[@HominisLupis]

It would be very humane of you to pin this comment

[@DOLCEBOii]

Marques single-handedly bankrupting yet another company 😭

[@Dwayne3007]

They did it themselves. There's not one positive review for this Humane device.

[@B2Roland]

I'm glad he's honest. If only he was more direct with how dogshit Tesla's are.

[@ittueaday]

Love the quick "David Blaine" contact, and everyone saying what a flex that is

[@Andy-xd7ng]

1:10 ish .... Immersed is coming to the AVP and they allow you to cast your cell phone to your VR space... I use it all the time on my Quest 3... you can have up to 5 mac screens and then your cell phone on there too...

[@thispersonjay]

The humane ai pin folks are working toward the Star Trek badge. The fact that it kinda works now is pretty cool.

[@itsallgoodaversa]

Snickerdoodle guys. Great episode.

[@prvashisht]

Doodling the Snicker was the best part!

[@mommyofceos]

I enjoy seeing all the guest doing the typing test. It's almost like seeing their inner child get to experience a new toy. Lol

[@joshuajohnso8671]

i went to iceland last year and the northen lights are great but you can really see them as well with the naked eye compared to on camera

[@Undeadwilly13]

Snickerdoodle ❤ "are we only counting mouth teeth" 😂

[@a.girl.has.no.name_]

the thumbnail is perfect btw

[@aledwilliams1234]

I think you are right on the “smartphones are good point”. I think that smartphones will never be taken out (as is the case with Tailosive Tech) but what will happen over time is that smartphones will become more and more of a camera focused device accompanied by other devices (watches, headphones, glasses, …)

[@Leopardeye]

Man when you get a good look at that eclipse it actually was pretty cool! Went pitch black in that video. 😂 Would not have been able to see that here in Cali.

[@leefulbright7473]

I'm like Andrew ... Constantly ringing my phone with my watch lol

[@Scochy]

“Are we only counting mouth teeth” had me in stitches 😂

[@iDard3n]

I lay in bed or on the couch with Vision Pro daily. When immersed you look at the stars and all your screens are in the air it’s amazing

[@averagezing]

Google vids is gonna be a hit with my generation (Gen Z) and younger.

[@VajckaSY]

One of the main questions with first Samsung Smartwatch with a camera and smartglasses with a camera was privacy - having a camera "always" on. No more questions like this opens the room for rolling Meta RayBan and all the smartglasses with cameras, new acceptation. 👍

[@gazmodo1192]

The doodles definitely made me snicker :P

[@erikmarez1464]

You know it’s going to be a good episode when David says, “yo, I’m david”

[@TahiraOden-tl5hn]

I'm glad Marques said it reminded him of the Apple Vision Pro because those were my thoughts at that exact moment. I think it has the potential to be a cool product for old people in nursing homes. Like an updated Jitterbug lol

[@luckylanno]

I never realized the thing about the moon/sun size ratio. It makes sense though. Pretty amazing.

[@TaiwanDashRides-lx7pe]

Snickerdoodle...it's always fun to watch the WVFRM Podcast

[@niklasgermann]

It’s time for a huge snickerdoodle appreciation 🙌🏼

[@DhruvKajalkar07]

SNIKERDOODLE ALSO MY BOI NADREW WITH TWO POINTS THIIS WEEK LES GOO

[@JamesEtallaz]

Such a snickerdoodle of an episode.

[@elfor1650]

18:20 I recently found that if you ask Google Assistant "where did I park?" it'll give you the location even if you didn't manually save it. It doesn't pop up on the map (as a saved pin) unless you manually save it tho (either with Assistant or pressing the save parking button).

[@MobikSaysStuff]

You should really try the Rayneo X2. It's the meeting point of VR Headset and AR glasses that you talked about a while ago.

[@derektoronto1]

If the pin does take pictures and save it on the cloud for iOS or Google android access would be nice. As I find it useful to remind myself for something or as a record.

[@Marty_Stylist]

Well bravo Andrew and now you know that there are plethora of stuff for your child to be entertained by on limited amounts of screen time of course

[@abahub6772]

There is a kind of rash called “erythema ab igne” that commonly happens after repeated exposure of heat directly to the skin, particularly from electric blankets and space heaters, I’d be curious to see if cases start developing as a result of the humane AI pin

[@mikecane]

All of the reviews killed it for me.