Now with MORE HORSEPOWER and TORQUE - 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Review

2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Review by The Straight Pipes. The Toyota Supra is pumping out 382hp and 368 lb-ft tq from a 3L turbo inline 6 cylinder engine. Sitting at $67,690 CAD, would this be your pick over the C8 Corvette, Porsche Cayman, BMW M2 Competition?
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[@TheStraightPipes]

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[@irelax8595]

Too expensive :(

[@snakeeyes9246]

I've only seen a few, but they're cool.

[@lexRTD.]

I only saw one. But its dope!

[@v60polestar88]

Most overrated car I can remember!!! Great looking but if I want a BMW I would buy one.

[@CrazyPolishDude]

I do like it, but... I would still prefer nice example of gen 4 with twin turbos :)

[@Kevin27182]

Y'all definitely need to drive the lc500. I would love to hear what you have to say about it

[@theodorerey1565]

For sure

[@Bluejean123Dive]

What's lc500?

[@griffinedmondson5896]

@@Bluejean123Dive Lexus grand tourer. Its really nice

[@hades.97]

Agreed.

[@2010ngojo]

It's also really really heavy. About 4300 pounds.

[@perrywlam]

Despite the value/looks/performance of the C8 Corvette and prestige of the Porsche, I think I'd still take the Supra. The Supra was my dream car when I was 9 and although this one is different from the Mk. IV, I'm just happy in this day in age, I, at age 36, can walk into a Toyota dealership, buy one at MSRP and have a full warranty. People continually rip on this for being a BMW but in all honesty, considering the automotive climate we currently live in, if Toyota hadn't paired up with BMW to make this and the Z4, would there be 1) a Supra right at this moment and 2) this "affordable"? If they HAD to pair up with a company to make a car, I'm glad it was BMW because they make some pretty good performance cars. I admit it's basically a Z4 with Toyota body but I'm ok with that. It still has a lot of after market support and looks uniquely Toyota. For that, I'm happy. There's no more RX-7, 300ZX, 3000 GT and the NSX and GT-R are way more expensive and not what they use to be. In that sense, the Supra stands on its own. The 90s was a golden age for Japanese sports cars. That's over. But at least we still have a Supra right now, regardless of its DNA.

[@chrisstringer8546]

Love this take buddy. I drive a 911 but I appreciate this car. People don’t need to put one thing down to validate or uphold another…so if someone is hating on this or BMW, who cares. Just thought of that reading other comments and stumbling onto yours. Good is good always. Toyota reliability and price can’t be beat too.

[@rosefire3929]

My dream car is a A90 Supra, most if not all people that shit on the Supra for being a BMW have never driven the car or a Z4 or anything with a similar drivetrain.

[@scottsword3066]

I’ve been critical of the Supra for these exact reasons. That being said, this is a great take, thanks for sharing.

[@fr8987]

facts only. just got a ‘23 and this car is unbelievable.

[@mugdays]

The horsepower improvement isn't just a tune. The engine is definitely different compared to last year. It now has a six-port exhaust manifold; last year's model only has TWO exhaust ports.

[@bernie-k]

Thank you for pointing out the obvious, mugdays! I don't understand, why the majority of auto journalists keep referring to "engine tuning tweaks", whereas the initial Supra and the US Z4 have totally different cylinder heads and exhaust manifolds. It's not subtle at all! Just pop the hood, and look - it's that easy. In European markets, both the BMW M40i and the Supra both have the 2-port cylinder head that makes 340HP (or 335HP) for emissions reasons. So I'm speculating that Toyota initially launched the Supra as a single spec car for the global market..

[@asdfghjklkjhgfdsa69]

@@bernie-k Hit the nail on the head in that last part. The Supra has been discontinued for the 2021 onwards in Europe due to emissions standards.

[@muhammaddanu6471]

Still bmw tho

[@asdfghjklkjhgfdsa69]

@@muhammaddanu6471 get over it

[@original__gmebvy]

It’s also making a lot more horsepower than Toyota is initially saying. The car is making around 420-430 hp so if people are saying the Supra feels a lot quicker than what it supposed to be then that’s the reason why

[@JJ-yu]

The big deal with the 2021 is that they ditched the in-head exhaust manifold. They now have a genuine header with 6 runners making the engine truly different in terms of performance and potential.

[@cbthecollector]

I can’t even read “horsepower and torque” anymore without hearing it in Yuri’s voice. It’s reached the level of reading a Morgan freeman quote... and you just can’t not hear it in his voice

[@overwroughtbloxxoverwrough9644]

Yo wtf same , its creepy but also cool

[@TheStraightPipes]

😎

[@stillatin]

I always read it as hurspurs and turk

[@JeffKing310]

Also: “Canaaaadian”

[@dylan-nguyen]

stillatin I heard “MORE POWAH BABY” in my head

[@andrewfayi9448]

TheStraightPipes is truly one of the best car channels on youtube. Way to go Yuri and Jakub!

[@TheStraightPipes]

Love you

[@andrewfayi9448]

@@TheStraightPipes Thank you!

[@hammertail6187]

Honestly, Throttle House and Straight Pipes both.

[@TheRebuilt1]

@@hammertail6187 Love Throttle House

[@MallMotorsports]

Dang I remember when this channel was at 400k! They've really come a long way.

[@ajithpsuku]

I'm so happy these guys blew up - they totally deserve it. Hope you guys pump out content for years to come

[@Tetsujin-28]

Those braces under the hood: "I found some tubing on the side of my garage, hammered the ends and screwed them on".

[@Channel21Jaymz]

Yes! Was thinking the same thing. I did that 20 years ago. Got a pipe at Lowe's and hammered the ends for a strut tower brace.

[@mattmasi303]

They just need to be painted black

[@DieselDork11]

Absolutely! It looks like they took electrical conduit, smashed both ends and bolted it down. This car is just overpriced for what have made.

[@MsCarjack]

They do look bizarrely cheap. I've seen better looking suspension braces in the back of Super Street magazine in 1997. You just get the feeling Toyota is doing all of this begrudgingly. Sure, they'll make some new sports cars, but only if some other company (BMW, Subaru) picks up the tab.

[@rhull3939]

I'm 100% confident in saying they didn't touch a thing with the engine tuning, just gave us the correct horsepower figure. Kind of brilliant marketing for year 1 and 2 of a new enthusiast car. They had all the hype around it for 2020 and gave people another reason to buy one in 2021.

[@aussie2uGA]

Imagine if you bought the first year Supra as a loyal long term customer. Your resale value just tanked.

[@vanillevaschnille9336]

nope. car and driver did a dyno test and it actually now makes over 40 more horsepower at the wheels.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

You should be 0% confident, as per Car & Driver dyno... 2020 Supra 345hp at the wheels 2021 Supra *388*hp at the wheels

[@UKfromadrone]

@@vanillevaschnille9336 as far as i know every supra that AMD in the uk dynoed were 400+bhp stock... numbers are to please bmw, power is to please the customer...

[@xfiringsquadx]

When your are a Japanese company selling a BMW with one of your most renowned name plates on it, you need gimmicks to sell it. Or as you call it "brilliant marketing".

[@cdl6763]

This Video is great but when is the review for Jakub’s Mustang

[@TheStraightPipes]

Sunday

[@bertakuceru6865]

@@TheStraightPipes nice

[@PLK123]

Yeeu

[@PLK123]

Yeey*

[@Justsomegamergamingandstuff]

@@bertakuceru6865 nice

[@theunchartedtruth]

Loving ur reviews, they're soo fun to watch love the video quality this is my new fav car review channel

[@arifakmal6904]

4:52 I love the red shadow of the rear tail lights

[@slothystyle]

So glad ya'll got to review a Renaissance Red GR this round 👍

[@NEMotoGuy]

The changes are the exhaust manifold. The 2020 has a two port and the 2021 has a six port, similar to what the Z4 had last year. The other big change is in the steering rack. From what I hear, as a day to day sports car you can’t tell the difference between the 20 and 21, stock for stock.

[@Dduarte07]

As well as different pistons and new compression ratio from 11.0:1 to 10.2:1 This should allow for more boost when tuning.

[@NEMotoGuy]

@@Dduarte07 Correct.

[@fry.master]

@@Dduarte07 also the camshaft profile was revised to promote higher rpm performance. the entire cylinder head is different, the hpfp has been upgraded to almost twice the size. now with the 2021 you can make 600+hp on the stock fuel system with just a turbo upgrade. This is truly a totally different engine and is the one we deserved in the first place

[@0Camus0]

@@fry.master where did you get that info on the HPFP? I haven't found info on that.

[@reyperez3424]

😂

[@vitoy147]

Jakub upgrading to a GMT Master! Very nice, enjoy it. Amazing review as usual

[@rajanarasimhan]

Highlander design comparison was GOLD. Love your reviews guys. Please do F8 Tributo

[@thesidejoe9636]

Imagine crazy buffeting still not being fixed after a whole year of feedback

[@curtr.5083]

That really does surprise me especially with such a nice exhaust note. I love to have my windows down to hear my car so that would be upsetting.

[@jackvanepps7301]

@@curtr.5083 BuT iTs ThE bMw EnGiNe It CaNt Be GoOd! ReEeEeEeEeEeEeEe

[@mobin5547]

Why didn't they test the windows again

[@HaultRxst]

What's wrong?? I'm not aware can someone explain?

[@greatcolor]

@@HaultRxst with windows down, the wind buffeting is unbearable. I don't see how they'll ever fix it, the shape of the roofline, waistline, and windows are the cause...

[@VentureAHighway]

My favorite car reviewers reviewing a car I almost never see around in person! :)

[@JonBurgos]

I love how honest you guys are!

[@jgmracing]

I think every time Jakub and Yuri says “and we’re going for a drive” it gets louder and better with every new upload😂😂

[@rc7016]

I still really like this car. I understand the comparison to the C8 (although good luck getting a C8 at MSRP right now) but one thing you can expect will be hordes of C8's on the roads over the next couple of years. The Supra is still exceedingly rare (I live in Toronto and still have only seen 2 since they were released on the road).

[@autonewstv86]

The 330 hp rating for the 1st year was a complete lie.😀

[@Mystic.ape.]

Is it higher or lower

[@quinnk8572]

@@Mystic.ape. its higher i think. had to lie so bmw wouldnt get mad

[@TheElectricGhost]

@@Mystic.ape. last year it was already making close to 400 to the wheels

[@reyperez3424]

Your comment makes me think that you know nothing about BMW

[@reyperez3424]

Flex Uchiha Nothing new about the real hp with Bmw engines but one thing is for sure that the 2021 Supra has the b58 used in the 340iM and it was different than the 2020

[@CrAzE191st]

Awesome job tastefully calling out all the weird marketing around this car! It needed to be said!

[@Rev.Match.Reviews]

Whoa... right when I was wondering if there was still crazy wind buffeting, that little bit of text popped up! Thanks guys!

[@nix294]

My country doesn't have Corvette , let alone Chevy and Porsche Cayman is more expensive than the Supra . So , Supra it is. You guys are lucky to have good choices .

[@fbmw98]

where do you live, brother ?

[@dragoonTT]

Enjoy, this car is still among the best looking in my opinion.

[@oneobjective5448]

Kevskipops is a living legend

[@scout2m448]

I just watched your last supra review last night and this comes up

[@mariowhyte2816]

Hoooorrrrsepower and toooorrrrrque!!!! Definitely had a good time watching this review guys!!! Cheers!!!

[@joevanseeters2873]

That car sounds incredible stock. I can't imagine what could be tweaked out of that thing with a few upgrades. I might have to upgrade from my 370z. Damn that thing sounds incredible.

[@chrishuffman6734]

Those strength braces under the hood look like they've been tacked on in someone's garage at home...like it was an afterthought.

[@touayaaj84]

I've been waiting for this review!

[@hardnoxperformance]

I love this car! Absolutely beautiful. I’m a fan of the yellow myself.

[@handcuffed302]

They can't do better than this Toyota has done a fabulous job with the exterior.

[@kevinnorris6558]

You mean BMW?

[@redhammer92]

Its a z4 with a bunch of goofy aero strapped on.

[@JesseArt]

Which is why you can't open the windows unless you want a severe headache...

[@kevinnorris6558]

rockn roll I was on the website of a Toyota dealership recently and even they said the Supra had a BMW engine.

[@BrainFuck10]

They can't do better? Bro haven't you seen the FT1 Concept that car was way better but too expensive

[@jpanici]

I absolutely love it, plus more hp. 👍🏼

[@Aurummorituri]

There is one important change: the exhaust manifold. The old one has just narrow two exhaust ports on the block feeding into the turbo. The new one gets actual headers that allow for more flow.

[@DoctorChange106]

great review guys - and interested in details of the new 4banger.

[@timephire]

0:39 The faces you make when your best friend tells you all the awesome stuff they did while on vacation. ;o)

[@xoxoj]

I just noticed, the front fascia resembles a butterfly 🦋

[@sayandas8250]

You guys are awesome!!! Continue your good work and car reviews...love from India!!!

[@user-ji3il6ce2o]

Bhai which state are you from?

[@danbenson5147]

Please review the B8 RS5 Coupe. I would love to watch you guys have fun in that thing!

[@Alemadi07]

The straight pipes try the new M2 COMPETITION OR THE CS

[@derrickjoness]

This car really makes you turn your head when you see it! I want to see a yellow one in person so bad

[@coincollectingfun]

Smashed the like button! Beautiful looking and sounding machine!

[@ronniematrix89]

Great auto, I like it's specs. I think it's well priced. Good upload. You guys should do a full in-depth review of the iconic Range Rover Defender 110 or 90. A comparison between the 1990s classic Defender and the 2020 latest upgraded Defender.

[@acurrymuncher8459]

Can you do a review on the mustang like the review you did on the civic 2YURIOUS

[@TheStraightPipes]

What Owen said

[@acurrymuncher8459]

Oh ok

[@jacksonbf]

Can’t wait to get it in 5 years when it’s depreciated.

[@nix294]

Same and just slap in all the mods , abuse the crap out of it

[@wagjkproduction755]

As long as people waiting for depreciation like you and me exists, it might not happen that quickly XD

[@xsct878]

@@nix294 its a BMW dude, abuse it and you'll be paying out the ass for literally anything that breaks.

[@nix294]

@@xsct878 meh , it's not like I'm abusing Lambo and Ferrari like DDE .

[@Masterahsoka]

In 5 years you'll want the one car that was released in 2025. Stfu

[@MegaHusseinhussein]

@thestraightpipes make sure the subtitles are enabled for the people who are deaf or hard of hearing please, love your content!!

[@AdamD19D]

The power bump was mainly from the change to the exhaust manifold, going from a 2 port to a 6 that the z4 has.

[@lukenukem1207]

Would love a full head to head with this and the M2 comp ❤️

[@pistolpete6321]

I’ve only seen one in the wild and it is a head turner for sure, it attracts attention. Glad Toyota teamed up with BMW to make this update happen! Great video!

[@LotusOwnersOfTexas]

Yes, I'd like to see a 4 cylinder Supra review!

[@christianboyd4635]

This is just an amazing looking car, it's basically my second favorite looking car after my Q60 RedSport. This might be my next car in a few years.

[@Shakeem]

“Sad Canadians” lmao

[@antduhnee]

it sounds sooo different compared to the 2020 , that’s a new engine for sure

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

Bought my Supra without a test drive as the dealership wouldn’t allow it until it was paid for. So glad i did as i was pissed about the whole thing, but did it anyway, what a thrill driving one of these!

[@NikolaiHT]

please review the 2020 challenger scatpack widebody! Great content guys.

[@yumyam5884]

This Toyota Z4 looks amazing:)

[@jayenriquez3727]

Let’s play a drinking game: take a shot every time Jakub says “send it/sending it” In a video 😂

[@andrewb325]

There's one of these GRs rolling around my town. It looks fantastic in this red and probably any other color for that matter. I want one.

[@afgpielover]

I never noticed the body lines were similar to thr highlander until y'all said anything. That just goes to show they look great on both!! I like the side profile on the new highlanders.

[@franknoneli3750]

Is it just me or was anyone else expecting that they fixed the buffeting?

[@evansanchez4767]

That should of been in box 1 with better suspension + hp

[@danny_r27]

It’s not fixed tho

[@SkylineLofe]

3:06 And now I can't unsee it

[@alexvalle750]

Hello.. Great super review as always.. I have a Stinger GT, can you please make a comparison video on both.. 🙂

[@manuelzapata8545]

I see one of these in my neighborhood every once in a while. Its white and looks so fucking incredible. This is absolutely my attainable dream car

[@abelincoln4374]

My dad literally bought one this weekend, and I’ve been able to enjoy live updates of his midlife crisis. Can’t wait to rip it on thanksgiving if he hasn’t crashed it.

[@RRSmurf]

Glad he didn't figuratively buy one 👍🏼

[@73av8r5]

I’m having a midlife crisis myself......🤔

[@adamlreiner]

I think we’re going to see a lot more of this as older millennial dads hit mid-life. The Supra to us is like what the Corvette was to boomers.

[@ramslade]

4:17 **Yuri literally wipes his glasses* _is that a soup, bruh?_

[@bravoalpha7116]

RamSLade On Blitz lmao

[@sunnyboy8644]

LOL XD

[@karshgandhi6917]

Love how he wiped the glasses off his face lmao 😂

[@2shiestypopas662]

Omfg guys, he said “Is that a supra” it’s from a Toyota supra jdm meme

[@atthelord]

I know people love to hate this car, but as a kid growing up with supras unable to buy them, it just feels good knowing theres a new one i can see, drive and actually buy! That nostalgia totally gets me. Imagine if they did a real Tureno/AE86 corolla that actually looked like Takumi’s car.. 10/10 day 1 buy.

[@jcgeorge_]

2:00 - I recognise that road! Dang, didn't know you guys were "local" local to me all this time! Love it :D

[@ssvillage]

I'd like to see you guys' take on the 4 Cylinder Supra. 🤔

[@RestrictedHades]

🥱 🥱 🥱 😴 😴 💤

[@Arayig1982]

Celica Supra?

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

@@Arayig1982 in a way its basically like the SZ supra with the 2jzge.

[@thegirthquake8574]

Dyno runs pull that 385 from the wheel, meaning there's nearly 450 at the crank.

[@filipsefcik4634]

Generic Memes that’s typical for Supra 😅

[@Jdicjsbciendufieb]

Im interested in what the dynos will say. Last years model was ~335 to the wheels and ~390 to the crank. I'm kind of doubting the 450 to the crank for this years. The 0 to 60 time is identical to last years models. Same engine. Probably same tune? The numbers don't make sense.

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

@@Jdicjsbciendufieb last year's supra,2 port heads with a high compression ratio. This years supra, 6 port heads with a lower compression ratio with different pistons.

[@thegirthquake8574]

@@Jdicjsbciendufieb From what I recall, independent dyno runs pulled 380 ish at the wheel last year as well. C&D did the run on the new 2021 and got those numbers. That's my citation.

[@JEdmund81]

Definitely want to see the 4-cyllnder review!

[@harrismi7]

I don’t know if I can ever unsee that Highlander quarter panel on the Supra.

[@supersanex_x]

Thestraightpipes+Supra= a straightpiped Supra;)

[@sonic2k789]

nO

[@hades.97]

I'm jealous; you Canadians get to go outside without having to worry anout getting sick as much

[@mahamedhassan5973]

That's the benefit of living on a low population country

[@joewoerly7767]

First time watching the channel. Great video

[@franzthompson6661]

It’s not a bad car but I’d take the corvette for sure but you’d think that they would change it up a little more but they probably won’t until the next refresh which probably won’t be for a few years great review and I don’t know why you guys say you don’t do great camera stuff cause you guys do great work in my mind like it’s up there with everyone one else ❤️❤️

[@chri5jame5]

3:06 dammit now I cant unsee it. thanks a lot guys lol

[@yoink7806]

the front reminds me of the taycan

[@CK_ONE]

The 2021 Supra uses a different variant of the B58 motor than the 2020 Supra. The 2021 Supra has a lower compression ratio and runs more boost. It also switched to a 6 ports exhaust manifold from the prior 2 ports exhaust manifold of the 2020 Supra.

[@mikebroom1866]

Seeing those on the road, they're striking.

[@tanjimbashar]

That's the new Highlander. The old one has no lines.

[@davethewave32]

Those strut bars looks like they came straight from a hardware store. I really feel like they should of been carbon fiber considering it’s a premium model.

[@JesseArt]

Yeah, they looked pretty terrible. They should have been there for the original release as well.

[@authority5150]

Agreed. At the very least they could have powder coated them black.

[@Chris-de2qc]

It will be next year's upgrade lol

[@musguelha14]

Who cares, it does the same thing.

[@FreewayBrent]

The manner and tone of voice in which Jakub said, "And it also SUCKS at THE BOX TEST!" lol lol lol

[@RaymondLo84]

6:30 super cool to see the car mass shift during accelerations

[@Teqqy404]

Jacob saids the Supra deserves a slow clap Proceeds to clap normally *

[@TDynasty001]

Glad to see BMW z4 is getting better every year

[@person.w9780]

damn you got the whole squad laughin

[@LoboLakerGaming]

This “joke” is so tired

[@Swrvn]

haha lmao 😐

[@mattsee45]

Yes to the 4 cylinder version review!

[@jeremiahricks9191]

Man I work at a Toyota dealer and we get these somewhat often. And these are so much better looking in person. Especially in the gray

[@fabiotocchi]

I see what you did there with the tags...

[@MHanssen]

Last years supra had 370 hp but Toyota said 335 hp

[@tunanocrust2642]

Last years supra said 335hp and people got 335-340 WHEEL hp (around 380 crank). This car is listed at 382hp and its already been dynoing at 385 WHEEL hp (or 420hp crank)

[@mercury0214]

@Vinny Booboo autos loose a little more

[@NutButDontTella]

@@mercury0214 According to what? Your butt dyno 😂

[@NutButDontTella]

@@tunanocrust2642 Dyno's vary i.e. mustangdyno or dynojet, DA, temperature etc. People were saying the F90 M5 made 675awhp stock like IND, I'd hold my tongue. Tuned non-GR Supra already loses to stock M4, and costs more with less seats.

[@NutButDontTella]

@Jack njones Price out a new M4, oh wait you cant 🤔 you can get used certified pre owned with warranty for 50's

[@marka2033]

I got so excited when I saw Pavement on the infotainment! Gentlemen of culture.

[@alewis276]

The best thing about that car is the exhaust ..and the back

[@MJT-DA]

Toyota: Yo you want more horsepower?! 2020 owners: no plz Toyota: Whats that 382hp?! 2020 owners: _stop this_ Toyota: Y'ALL WANT BETTER STEERING?!! 2020 owners: *_YAMEROOOOO_*

[@karenenglisa1500]

Lol

[@indragarg2857]

Toyota: daijobu dayo

[@LeDarksideLe]

You know you watch too much anime when you understand this 🤣🤣

[@craqjiw8920]

Pls resurrect the chaser toyota

[@hlq16]

GT86 owners: Yes please Toyota: y'all hear summ?

[@anthonylazarony9308]

Really need one car review in my lifetime with the straight pipes, throttle house and Doug demuro all stuffed into one car

[@herwinladres3659]

They definitely should do a side by side comparison with a Mk4 and Mk5 supbrah

[@shaheersheikh9493]

Yes - You can set Apple CarPlay as a preset button with one of those numbered buttons. It works really well in the new iDrive 7 infotainment system.

[@alwaysiyi272]

Toyota has said there would be changes every year so I can't wait for next year maybe 450hp who knows😂. According to Car and Driver the car makes 40 more hp to the wheels, and the lines y'all were talking about is the new 2020 Highlander 😂, they also put it on the new Sienna

[@speakingtruths4215]

Iboy Dafreshest 335hp to 450hp will never ever happen. The LC500 only makes 471 hp.

[@blackice214]

This isnt a M4 lol

[@CanadianIndian88]

It's so secret. BMW has historically always under-rated their engines from the factory. This new version of the Supra probably makes close to 400HP at crank and with a simple stage 1 Dinan or Bootmode tune you can easily gain 50+ HP.

[@Dolby109]

I like the Supra, and the C8 Corvette, but a proper manual transmission is a must for me, so the Cayman is the only option. If the Supra gets a manual next year then it could be back in the running. The Corvette is still the king of performance per dollar.

[@Chezzzzy]

2 series manual or miata are also options

[@Dolby109]

@@Chezzzzy Well if we are going cheaper I would get a Camaro SS 1LE. I already have a convertible :p

[@francischeung2247]

when you see @Jacob Valencia's watch from Seiko SKX to Rolex GMT Pepsi, that's an instant like