The Truth Behind Tesla's Patents | In Depth

[@marcdenlinger5282]

I really like this guy, Austin Meyer. Stand up for what is right!

[@paulatwood9978]

Awesome, right earned my first patents when I was 25 years old, a long time ago. My idea was so cool that the best patent attorney in Seattle did it on contingency. I license the patent rights to Major company and quickly discover the patent is only worth what you can afford to spend defending it. The system is useless and I absolutely agree if youve got a great idea just go do it

[@ConnectingODots]

A friend of mine patented the idea of digital cameras automatically takimg multiple shots and choosing or constructing one in which everyone's eyes are open (possibly some other related features too, like smiles) He did it early, thought about it himself with detailed tech description (he's a smart engineer, not a patent troll).spent lots of time and attorney fees for patents in half the world. Other half plus pushy patent lawyers from camera companies forced him to sell patent with very little return for all the effort.🙁

[@marcdenlinger5282]

@@ConnectingODots the whole thing is sad. I'm not a fan of bullies.

[@dstr1]

@@AwesomeBlackDude America allows such criminals to fleece honest people.

[@RussInGA]

Austin Meyer - we need more people like this guy

[@keithnance4209]

Thank you for helping this guy shed light on these parasites of society! It’s so infuriating to see that the justice system has allowed this type of behavior to proliferate.

[@kennethedwards3095]

Allowed, you say? They protect the villainous bloodsuckers privilege as rights_at the expense of the innocent or uninitiated.

[@ProgressiveVegan]

Great coverage, guys. Thanks. Austin's an American hero in my view.

[@ferrarikg]

The quintessential

[@bali208]

This is the best interview on patents i have seen soo far...thank you Zack & Jessy for bringing it to us!

[@christopheredginton6242]

I’m glad Austin got something positive out of this with his documentary.I’m sure at the time he would have wanted to do other things with his life than chasing around with this problem but his motivation turned it into something useful for himself and hopefully others down the line. What an incredible human being he is. This sort of stuff would crush most people and that’s why they pay up. The sense of injustice is the worst thing when these lowlife’s get away with this sort of thing and my own personal experiences of injustice make me feel crushed, depressed and lose faith in the law. Is this a feature of the crazy US legal system? Seems like you only do well with the law if you are loaded. From over the pond it looks like most of America is nuts but our legal system doesn’t seem to be much better. Thank goodness there are people like you guys. You have my admiration.

[@ericknyevz3840]

I debunk most every lie he said in the comments. This was a joke of misinformation. They clearly put little to no effort to validate.

[@Nine9Hundred00]

Thank you Austin. We need more people ready to do what you did.

[@marsgizmo]

Remarkable work Austin! 👏 And huge thanks Zac and Jesse for showcasing this! Your show is always packed with super valuable content!

[@lengould9262]

It's no use whatever if nothing is done to COMPLETELY clean up the corruption in the US legal system.

[@rickgould6554]

I've been using his software (X-Plane) for about 20 years, when it was barely even heard of. It was a disruptor when it came out because of the way it handles flight models. I used X-Plane for several undergrad and graduate level papers and was essential to my Masters Thesis. He's always provided an exceptional product at a fair price. I believe that Austin's outrage is quite just. Before he mentioned his 'travel to Mars analogy', I was thinking "I should file a patent for a time travel machine, a teleportation machine, a Faster-Than-Light (FTL) propulsion system, and a fusion-power machine. Then I can wait for someone to invent it and sue them when they do."

[@danielgrwaldphone2927]

You also need to connect with the most corrupted legal representatives in the United States.

[@kylesprogis6682]

It's great that not only the perpetrators, but people, who are supposed to be helping us, like certain lawyers, judges, government and so forth, are all being exposed for supporting patent trolls and the loosely- operated patent system!

[@rosedale7986]

Lock up the judges and the patent attorneys!

[@Succumbed2Rum]

Just fascinating. Austin Meyer is a hero. What a stand-up guy. Would love to see him back on the show.

[@RealBobStovall]

I've always heard it said that 'You cannot patent and IDEA." Meaning that You can only receive a patent on a DEVICE or MACHINE. Whatever ever happened to that concept?

[@sliggy6834]

This guy is incredible smart. I also love how he stuck it to the man instead of just rolling over. Great job bro

[@RB-pi3jl]

Someone needs to file a patent describing the exact tactics used by the "Patent Trolls" then sue them out of business for infringement.

[@Bl4dz]

They go over that point in the video, this doesn't work. These trolls use paper companies, you can sue them out of business but can't gain anything from them. They'll just open another paper company and do it again. The difference is: you've got something to lose, they don't

[@MadStyle1911]

Wow at the judges and their sons bit..

[@aarontempleton2735]

Great work, but did Austin follow this up by reporting the judges and lawyers to the Bar? This sort of thing qualifies for removal from the Bar.

[@F15HHOOKS]

When I was a kid Steve Austin was the the million dollar man, the bionic man, a made up TV hero. Well, we now have another Austin, only this one is a real life hero. What an amazing man. The world's a better place with people like you in it Austin.

[@accumapmodels]

Amazing interview and thank you guys for bringing all this out in the open, thank you Austin.

[@IdeaBoxful]

I am customer of Meyer's. His product was itself is very innovative. It uses a unique flight sim computation model. It is sad to see Austin going through this mess. Hardworking people like him should not be penalized! And the answer to this problem is incentivisation of greed in our societies. Todays financial models incentivises greed and oligarchies. Dont expect anything better once the society goes down this path....

[@KarlMcClelland]

this is definitely one of the best videos you guys have done. Love this guy. What a nightmare situation that seriously needs to change.

[@davidahn4130]

I learned about patent trolls years ago from family, but again from Planet Money on public radio. I've also heard of very large companies collaborating on patent pools to protect themselves from trolls.

[@hahtos]

Having written many patents I can relate to this issue intimately. 20 years ago there was actually some details and substance in the patents in our field. Now it's minimal viable details and no publications in conferences etc. to limit details from getting to the competition

[@karlsloman5320]

Brutal stuff. I laughed when. you talked about musicians and copyrights. My band actually put out a CD with 13 songs on it. I was online one day and wanted to listen to one of our songs. When I went to listen to it, the system that had the song listed told me I was not allowed to listen to the song due to Copyright infringement, and I owned the Copyright! LOL It is insanity. So I could not listen to a song that I wrote and performed!

[@grgmetube]

If you were logged in to the website listening to your own song, the website should know you own it. There is a problem I think with bot moderators, like on youtube and other sites, that have been deleting legitimate non insulting comments. Is this a similar thing? I have some comments of mine blocked before. They were non insulting and no bad language. Are these bots just judging by keywords or are they tuned to only allow the viewpoints of their designers?

[@vinumcopia9850]

Not all super heroes wear capes, Austin Meyer is now one of my super heroes; and he even flies.

[@davidwilson2394]

I love this guy. Just because he donated electrical busses. The rest is amazing.

[@bstomp]

Bravo to Austin Meyer!!! He is an American HERO!!!

[@Activation1111]

Great show. I always imagine that the patent office worked the certain way. To help & protect the inventor and their ‘created/Built/working inventions and ideas. But to now know that anyone can come up with anything in their ‘imagination’ and legally patent it, without proving that it actually works,, is a scary truth. Which only proves again just how criminal our legal system really is. I applaud the gentleman by having a courage to create his documentary and bring those criminals and trolls To light

[@ericknyevz3840]

I debunk most every lie he said in the comments. This was a joke of misinformation. They clearly put little to no effort to validate.

[@LIamaLlama554]

It is written in law that the idea embodied in a patent is supposed to have to work and have utility. The USPTO just likes to forget about this requirement because it benefits them and trial lawyers. Call Congress. ☎️

[@ericknyevz3840]

@@LIamaLlama554 them forgetting a law makes it effortless to fix and countersue for cost and troubles. I enjoy getting paid for others being simpleton patent trolls. Yet at the end of the day what I said is still true. You did not even begin to refute it sorry.... I have DA's in my family. I know the law. I also have a patent attorney as a friend of a friend.

[@ladytrader688]

Wow, thank you for exposing this to me, and to Austin Meyer for making this movie. I shared the movie on my Twitter account.

[@ReijiMoritsugu]

15:30 corruption at its finest!

[@notan...]

This channel is getting better all the time. So much respect for you guys for helping shed some light on the subject of patents. Austin Meyer - defender of human dignity.

[@Raggzzaug11]

Your channel always brings some interesting material but this is the most interesting show I have watched so far on your channel. I have not watched all your videos because there is just so much content on YT but I am glad I caught this one. Eye opening ! I have seen this subject discussed before but he added so much more depth to it. Thank you!

[@TheWebcrafter]

Hi Zac & Jesse. Long time viewer, first time commentator. As recommended by you, I've just watched the beginning of 'The Patent Scam' documentary where Kevin O'Connor is describing the energy, cost and time (so far) he's expended on his ongoing experience, and (feeling for his family) I literally began to cry as I witnessed the evident discomfort in Kevin's body language (left eye twitching) as he spoke on this matter. How can strangers (patent trolls), who contribute nothing meaningful to this world, deliberately f&*k with a hard-working, service-providing person (and his family's) lives and livelihood, causing so much emotional distress and financial hardship, without remorse, solely for monetary gain? Surely this is illegal? This insidious behavior is obviously extortion or blackmail or something along those lines? If this type of frivolous claim cannot be eradicated then perhaps a caveat ought to be enforced by the legal system that says... "This infringement claim can only be upheld, if the 'suing' party already owns a physical or digital 'entity' that the 'sued' party is copying." (Similar to music industry). Obviously the appropriate legalese would be used. Why doesn't Google sue the patent-trolling bastards for taking money from other people, in their name? Imagine if they did this to Spotify users. Those Harvard MFers probably realized they'd never make it as conventional lawyers so together (possibly over lunch at someone else's expense) they concocted this litigation 'model' while high-fiving each other. What do other followers of this channel think? I really need to know.

[@grgmetube]

I think the patent system in the USA was changed quite a few years ago where anyone could claim an infringement on say a computer program if the program did the similar thing to the accused programmers program . This was even allowed if the programs were a different design. Things seemed to have evolved to even worse where just an idea behind something can be an infringement. There were some protests about the patent change. Mainly in places like the EU and some other countries. I am not certain if the EU has its own better patent system now or if it has evolved similar to USA. If the EU patent system is better surely a lot of USA startups would want to take their business their. In China I don't think they have any patent system.

[@topherdean1024]

And what about the lawyers. Fucking vultures and the judges who shelter them.

[@Argoon1981]

Where I live someone panted a very old and traditional type of clothing, invented centuries ago and used before by poor sheep herders (now something no poor sheep herder can buy) this was a peace of clothing that he never invented or even add the idea, this person that add a factory making it, then sued all other factories, fortunately many of them, didn't cave in to the threats and instead exposed it and caused a major nacional uproar, forcing the government to intervene and the patented being overturned but just the fact that someone, could just go to a patent office and file a patent for something so old and cultural, so easily, is just crazy.

[@Argoon1981]

I cannot see the documentary on youtube and I think google play, on youtube it says "this video is not available", on goggle play unless I fail to see the buy or rent button somewhere, I can only see the trailer. Is this true for everyone?

[@jemezname2259]

It took me 14 years to defeat a completely vexatious easement case where the plaintiff claimed an easement over my new ranch to reach his property. Problem is the so called easement passed over the Jicaralla Reservation. The asshole who sued me was not Jicarllian and had no easement over their reservation. Anyone who knows anything about easement law knows how stupid this is. But the lawyers we hired told us to trust them and recused the original judge assigned to case who turned out to be an expert in easement law. They got us a judge who couldn't find his ass with both hands. We only won when that moron finally recused himself. I don't know how anyone can come in contact with our so called justice system and retain their sanity.

[@ericknyevz3840]

I debunk most every lie he said in the comments. This was a joke of misinformation. They clearly put little to no effort to validate.

[@haj78]

This is also the case with the legal system in Sweden ... We are in a case where the authorities have approved a forged signature and refuse to take back the decision which is based on forgery .... but we are working on finding other approaches to lift the decision and the process is now in its 5 years ...

[@johnyoungquist6540]

The cost of the patent is determined by what lawyer you choose. Anywhere form $5K on up. By the time you finish it $10-20K will do it if you get a modest lawyer. Go to the largest firm in DC and the sky is the limit. The quality of the patent can very widely. The wrong words can be ruled invalid. You should revisit this topic with a true patent expert to correct a lot of this misinformation.

[@ericknyevz3840]

I agree. I posted a ton of comment to refute all of this false misinformation this grifter is pitching. This video was an utter joke of arrogance to indoctrinate simpletons...

[@kevtheobald]

I wish we had an ROI party, (Return On Investment Party). Go through our government on all levels and review how things work. See what kind of return on investment we are getting. Use that first principals thinking to overhaul things based on data, not religion, not tradition,etc. Just boil it down to something work well, if not, change it. Hope more like Austin keep showing these rarely spoken of issues that actually have a large impact on our world.

[@RichardFrost]

Just to let everyone know - the KZbin links for the movie are USA only ( geolocked). You will need to watch a re-uploaded version on KZbin if you want to see it.

[@nielsnb11]

Thank you, for a moment I was like WTF - THEY WANT ME TO PAY TO WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY??? Guess they weren't aware it's geolocked.

[@rados6826]

this is crazy... Hats down Austin for your effort, respect

[@GFYYT11111]

Thanks for exposing Patent scam Austin. This is the first step to fighting corruption. Congratulations 💚🌍 Watching the movie now.

[@markelkins8432]

Ouch! I live in South Africa - so it appears that I can't watch the movie. Is there a place where I can watch it?

[@stevedugas2806]

Is there any way to watch this movie without renting or buying it? Perhaps a link for patrons or some such?

[@PerisMartin]

Mmm movie not available in the Japanese iTunes store

[@brabenetz]

Also not available in Austria KZbin

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Patent infringement? 😎

[@yev6683]

Surfshark?

[@dementiadaily1995]

So proud of Austin Meyer and thank you for this excellent interview! Is there current support for a confessional bill or state amendments?

[@KevinSproul]

There are some well known companies that own large stockpiles of patents, but hardly ever file patent lawsuits. Any time they are sued, they countersue for violation of their own patent. Patent Trolls protect themselves from this by not doing anything but file lawsuits. If America adopts the "Looser pays" principle from the British Commonwealth, this would all go away, because when you defend against a patent and win, the troll will have to pay your lawyer.

[@peterbergmark]

Great work as always guys!

[@JD-fk4qq]

Holy F@K!!! Thank Goodness, for Austin and people like him. Great interview, Z, J and A !

[@internet-of-things]

I am trying to watch the Patent Scam video on youtube and is clear to me that KZbin has earmarked this video "the Patent Scam" for slow stuttered viewing, the sound plays normal but one is presented with an unpleasant to watch blocky video, that is on any device I have (I am a network engineer) yet any other video works fine. This from the Netherlands as from a VPN in New Zealand. Does this suggest that these bad lawyers have gotten their tentacles in Google too, yet again?

[@joannelennstrom4934]

I have Amazon prime and was able to watch the film on my TV CABLE, but it had advertisements.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

Patents are bad and shouldn't exist at all since they hold human progress back. Copyright should be be shortened a lot, creators definitely don't need money after their death. Trademark law is great because it protects both the consumer from being scammed and a company's reputation.

[@rgeraldalexander4278]

These sort of trolls and their corrupt enablers deserve life terms in Guantanamo.

[@louren1951]

Keep taking names and expose all those criminals! Keep making follow up videos, the truth must not hide.

[@claudenelson8489]

Zac & Jesse, one of your finest videos! I watched the movie and I’m still seething… Austin, in my opinion, is as heroic as Nelson Mandela! Bravo Austin!

[@terrysullivan1992]

when I click on the link for the patent scam there are only pay per view options.

[@nigelweir3852]

Best video you have ever done , compliments all round , anger anger anger , like watching roots or Schindlers list brilliant , this guy was hero

[@keylime2998]

Can these judges and lawyers be reported to the FBI and be arrested? This can’t be legal!!!

[@dr-k1667]

That's the problem, their blatant corruption ISN'T illegal and our law makers would suddenly find making it illegal suddenly very difficult if we called for it, you know like term limits and campaign finance laws.

[@heldua2]

Austin Meyer humanity needs people like you! Congratulations for being a person who makes a positive difference to our fragile societies! Thank you Thank you Thank you ☺️

[@spotzfourme3743]

Austin!!!!!!! Wow!!! Fantastic person! The world is a better place with people like Austin.

[@chriswhite976]

Wow this was an amazing eye opening episode!!

[@MalChicho1]

The movie link goes to Apple Store but is not longer There

[@gsabic]

I love xplane, I used the free version when I was in flight school

[@chuckhoag4665]

This video is inspiring. Covering the story the way you speaks volumes about the quality work you are doing! Please keep it up...

[@MolloRelax]

Why would it matter to your ISP , if you use a VPN?????Anyone

[@bartoszskowronski]

So Patents in US should work like in Poland. You can patent only new inventions in global scale. New invention MUST NOT be public presented before you ask for patent. You must add a working sample to patent office. You can't patent algorithms and ideas. and you have monopoly up to 20 years. There is also "desin" patent. So you can patent exactly look of your product. So nobody can ideal copy your products, but if instead 3 layers of something, someone do 2 or 4 layers of something, it's OK he can do that. That secure thinks like LOGO, name, shape of cars, etc. And you have monopoly without time limit (but you must pay every year fee)

[@JunoSolarWinds]

Wow, how are those judges not in jail??

[@bernardob1005]

Those judges are elected - in a place that only ever votes for one political party overwhelmingly (east Texas = republicans), it’s a ripe place for criminal behavior because all they need is to be “conservative” and they have guaranteed jobs… this type of outrageous behavior is notorious in deep red America, they are drunk with power and greed

[@montypalmer4556]

What happens if you just ignore the infringement suit?

[@surferdude4487]

IMO: The purpose of a patent is to help innovators cover their costs of development. If anyone could just walk into a trade show and copy a finished product, there would be zero incentive to do any R&D. Perhaps the law should be changed such that unless a corporation or individual is able to show significant sunk costs into developing their idea or a working prototype within a reasonable amount of time, their patent should be revoked. The questions of what is "significant" or "Reasonable" should be settled through a dialog between law makers and research labs. And Lawyers and judges lining their pockets through corrupt practices is nothing new. But the individuals involved must be dealt with in the harshest manner legally possible.

[@surferdude4487]

@@Nphen I agree with you there. As Elon has stated, production is much harder than prototyping. Tesla and SpaceX must have multiple billions worth of IP in their manufacturing processes. All I'm saying is that simply writing a vague idea down on paper should not be enough to keep a patent. A working prototype that clearly demenstrates the concept in the patent within a reasonable amount of time as a requirement would stop these patent trolls in their tracks.

[@dennisjutzi7075]

Thanks to you and Austin

[@Slebonson]

Thank you Austin for getting that changed wow!

[@lukeskywalker7457]

Are small Canadian business vulnerable to US patent lawsuit?

[@DFEUERMAN]

Get rid of patents. Causing more harm than good.

[@luischalasnyc9657]

Thank you. So informative.

[@worldofronkuhnel]

Super show. Thanks to Austin

[@tatradak]

WTF...This is a crazy story....i am a patent holder and I'm going straight to the patent attorney for a chat....Huge thanks for this story. Guys you need to rename this upload."patent fraud scam could cost $1m" or something to get all patent holders aware. It This subject should be next to the self repair act

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Well done Austin 👏 ✔ thank you 😊 Jess and Zak

[@lagflu]

22:33 is marathon digital and marathon patent group the same thing? I thought Mara was a crypto company

[@justinweatherford8129]

This reminds me of when I first started hearing about copy rights and patents, back in high school. At that time I was wondering why someone didn't just put a patent on each letter of each alphabet, and each number. That way any time someone uses a letter or number they open themselves up for a lawsuit.

[@johng5529]

This was a great one guys, thanks. Mind Blown. Will not be moving to Tyler TX any time soon

[@RobinHood-lz2wj]

Marshall, in East Texas, is the epicenter for these kinds of lawsuits. Product liability lawsuits, too.

[@twistdshade]

You got a link where I can watch the patent scam for free?

[@theorfander]

So modern hero's do exist

[@renaissanceman3]

First point of order. Eliminate Patent Office.

[@Luca280]

Wait..your telling me that the Bitcoin Miner I am invested in... Marathon Digital...ticker MARA....started out as a patent troll company?!? I gotta dig deeper. This is sad.

[@jbaccanalia]

Austin, you were already cool. Now you're 3 times sooo cool! What a great guy.

[@RicardoPicena]

I’m originally from Dallas Texas & I’ve lived in east Texas area for 20 years now & it’s a very small town area here. Everyone knows everyone & especially “people of power” or positions of power. I’ve noticed it’s slowly changing tho.

[@timkiwi]

So interesting. Great interview

[@kennethvargas5953]

Thank you Austin, thank you guys.

[@Anonymoususer-kz5xi]

Small businesses don’t have a way to “unionize” as a group and fight back? Any frivolous attack on a small business by patent trolls should bring to bear the wrath of all small businesses.

[@dagtheger8993]

You guys should start a news channel for small business and innovators. Check for patents on that first.

[@dstr1]

It all comes down to a very dishonest judicial system. How can a country allow an organize criminal activity to go on simply because the laws allow them to do so!?

[@Wise-up-already]

Wow thank you Austin!

[@cicerof]

I loved this episode ...Im on my way to Dallas . Thanks Guys

[@TheTallRaver]

What a wholesome guy! Keep it up Austin!👍💪👍💪

[@skytrakn]

Kudos! What’s next Austin?

[@goldreserve]

Amazing contribution, broken patent system needs reforming. Thanks.

[@jeffbransky7966]

I always thought you can’t patent a raw idea. However you can patent a design or concept even if the thing was never actually produced. The story about the lawyers and judges collision is not about patent law. It’s about criminal fraud! This whole problem appears to be in the realm of intellectual property, not physical designs. The Apple shopping bag is a physical object that could be protected by a design patent even if it does not qualify for a utility patent. Apple didn’t patent the idea of a shopping bag. It patented an actual design. Others can still make shopping bags as long as they don’t copy the design.

[@ericknyevz3840]

I debunk most every lie he said in the comments. This was a joke of misinformation. They clearly put little to no effort to validate.

[@zzgrom]

Do we want a world where every shopping bag design is patented? A world where my kid cannot draw up a shopping bag for fear of it bearing resemblance to 1000+ shopping bag patents?

[@BajaPete]

Austin Meyer the Michael Moore on patents.

[@pauljefferies9087]

Yeah, blocking various iPhone features, seems to be another type of ‘scam’. My phone sometimes does not add in the year date and time a message was sent to me. Also sometimes does not mention name of sender.

[@spleck615]

Didn’t Tesla counter sue Nikola for patent violations citing they violating the good faith clause of it’s patent share pledge by suing them? A good offense is the best defense.

[@Argoon1981]

Tesla has the money to counter sue and even not get anything back but shut them up, essentially throwing money to the trash "and lawyers pockets", small businesses, don't have such money, so many cannot counter-sue and prefer to settle that is why, patent trolls exist, is a profitable venture, imo no different from extortion but legal.

[@Argoon1981]

@@thegamingsociety7880 You may be right but I believe It may happen, if we keep talking about it and work to make it harder for them to just doing it openly.

[@christianmalbeuf476]

The world would be a much better place if we had more people like Austin.