Falling Back in Love with FPV

[@foxfpv]

This video should be shown to every FPV starting pilot so he knows what FPV is about. Constant homebacks for a simple repair you didn't predict... But that's why we love FPV, don't we?

[@NURKFPV]

haha 10000%

[@thomasseeley8124]

Every time I go out to fly and think "I don't need my repair box" I need my repair box... Lol

[@thommylue]

Meanwhile it’s getting darker and darker outside

[@TommyGFPV]

And sometimes it's a process that takes days/weeks because of job/kids/weather leaving you with limited opportunities to fly.

[@dallasb7117]

No Bro, not everyone Enjoys the build, repair aspect of this wonderful hobby. I know it bothers some people...but I Just want to fly...(and happy to Pay for help keeping things airborne).

[@tmc-fpv]

Individuals commercializing FPV has driven the entirety of FPV to become highly commercialised. People forget that this is a HOBBY first and foremost. Hobbies allow us to have fun, relax, and escape from the norm. Ive been saying this for years. Its nice to see that influencers are finally getting onboard.

[@wesorama]

When you first setup a plane, make sure to manually adjust the control surfaces to neutral while the servos are centered. Some planes (many flying wings) prefer to have a bit of up elevon as 'neutral' position, and there's no yaw axis control. Test the plane (prop off or throttle disabled) at the bench by putting in stab mode and observing the control surfaces while you bank, pitch and yaw the plane around. Lift a wing, and that wing's aileron should move up and the other wing's aileron down to counteract your bank angle to level the plane. Lift the nose up and the y-tail elevons should move down to pitch it back down to level. Move the tail left or right and the y-tail elevons should move toward the direction of movement. Then at least you'll know the stabilization is working correctly.

[@spyder000069]

Yep. Servos not matching up in angle/stabilize is is pretty common. Always better to find on the ground before launch. Also best to fly manual and trim out the plane not with the transmitter trims but with the adjustable control linkage. Otherwise stabilize mode will always be fighting it. Manual mode is also the best time to test out whether the CG is right. Stabilize will hide a wrong cg until its too late. Trim out the battery placement in manual mode until it either flys straight or drops the nose just a bit while the elevons are level or slightly pitched up. The mini talon / talon is not a slow flyer and I am guessing this model inherits some of that. Keep the speed up. Full throttle launches will also sometimes dive to one side due to torque roll so 3/4 is a good place to start with a mostly flat throw.

[@Gospikeit]

This is the most I've smiled in a long time. The struggles of the build! I'm going to dust off the workbench tonight.

[@big-smoke-rc]

You can check the gyro 'angle mode' while on the ground. Just wiggle the plane around and watch the surfaces move to correct. They should do the opposite of whatever wiggle you are doing.

[@failsafedji1745]

exactly what I was thinking too

[@lucidjimiking46]

Dude flying wings has been so much fun after getting into quads a couple years ago!! So much fun it's a whole different experience!!

[@DannyFPV04]

Just built my first iNav fixed wing. It’s been very fun using auto launch and loiter modes. It’s been a very fun journey to learn new software and all the settings.

[@USAFmuseum]

We always watching your videos and flights! Feel free to return here any time Nurk!!! Let's fly together!

[@Xplicit_fpv]

This was my first plane.. went threw many headaches/crashes in beginning trin to learn the set up! Now its 1 of my favorite planes.. sooo much different then quads! Much respect for trying something different! Also. Rule #1 for flying fun is always first. Never lose that passion to fly!

[@OTRFlyer]

Hey Nurk!! It’s good to see you finding your joy again! I remember you were the first actual fpv video I ever saw, and man did that open a worm hole for me lol!! That was a few years ago and I’ve been obsessed ever since. Totally changed my life (as corny as that sounds it’s 100). I just re-discovered some of your older stuff recently when I decided to follow JB’s lead and build an 8S quad. Then I realized that this was nothing new as you were building a 12S years ago lol!! Anyway, love your channel man and I really appreciate your putting stuff like this out there so guys like me can find what we didn’t know we so desperately needed!! Love this shit!!!

[@karterjones9590]

Recently went on my own “make fpv fun again” adventure. Really trying to get back to what got me hooked. Got a 5 inch built that I don’t mind smashing and I’m starting a new fixed wing build. Started only buying/building with a purpose instead of for fun! Wondering if you had a similar feeling

[@yulifreed4988]

Best comedic editing yet ;) 😂😂

[@NURKFPV]

Editor thanks you!

[@para9111]

So much fun watching someone else other than me suffering the joys of FPV foamies.It’s like climbing a mountain oh so satisfying when you get to the top…& it finally flies right.

[@stefanpynappels2585]

Flying is about fun and challenges for me, fixed wing or multirotor doesn't matter. When you have that perfect late evening flight that leaves you perfectly calm and happy, it makes the umpteen crashes before worth it, and leaves you wanting more, just like you found. Enjoy many more of those flights mate...

[@marcplatvoet]

Nice to see, it's not that difficult. normally I fry in manual/horizon (it's a plane ;) ) if you look in INAV 6.1 setup you can see the orientation of the plan, and how it responds to the movement. Then if you put in angle or horizon you can see how your elevons and elevator moves. I usually use autolaunch, because I'm lazy. have fun... hope this helps ...

[@Laffinfpv]

*sets up camera in garage, leaves garage, opens garage* "I'm actually coming back right this second..." ;) Glad to see you enjoying it again! I'll need to find a project sometime so I can do the same

[@kieren7763]

Very good example of any fpv plane or drone really if your not prepared for failure its just not for you. the good news is if you persevere you will be smarter and more confident to tackle other projects and the accomplished feeling once you get it working is so satisfying

[@LyroLife]

I am also getting back into the FPV hobby.

[@fpvdroneproductions]

My twin brother fly FPV commercially and the other day we went to the park just to rip drones for fun and it was the most fun I've had in years. Getting paid to fly drones is dope but there is nothing like flying for free.

[@fpvhawk]

Thanks for the entertainment. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Also great editing BTW 👏 Get this thing to the mountains 🔥

[@702Wolfi]

You can check angle mode without flying on the ground by moving the plane and observing what the control surfaces do.

[@NURKFPV]

they do the right thing, which is what's crazy!

[@dougcooper4917]

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing it with us.

[@woogieman02]

I have a sweepwings behemoth that I fly MILES away and it is a blast...BUT...a simple cruising wing is a blast. A simple pack in the truck and go for a flight is way more relaxing than setting up way points and what not

[@NURKFPV]

I want one of those so bad

[@woogieman02]

@NURKFPV I have been flying mine and I love it. Talk with Ruben to see if he still has one, if not reach out and let me know ;)

[@trumblez]

Maybe your flight controller thinks its backwards or sideways in the plane, could also be that the plane corrects it orientation wrong in angle mode, move it in your hand in angle mode and really think about if it corrects in the right direction, had that same problem with angle mode and only saw that it was correcting in the wrong direction like the 10th time i was checking. Also a tip: if the gps shows you the wrong direction home try disabling the compass, its not needed to calculate the orientation anyways!

[@ElyPenner]

Welcome to the hobby. Where every thing that can and also everything that can't, will definitely will go wrong. LOL. Great video.

[@CaptainKazi]

Glad to have you back dude!

[@owen_is_on_the_internet]

This is exactly what the iNav learning curve is like. It’s all worth it though! It looks like your plane either thinks right side up is upside down and that down is up. Put the plane into angle mode and move it around with your hand. When you roll right, the left aileron should go up, when you roll left the right aileron should go up. For the tail, aiming the nose up, should make both ruddervators (yes, they are called that ) go down, and aiming the nose down should make both ruddervators go up. If something is behaving behaving backwards, you need to reverse the servos in iNav, not in OpenTX. The fact that it flies OK in manual, but not in any of the automatic modes makes me think that you reverse the servos in OpenTX and not in iNav. When you use iNav, you don’t do any mixing in opentx like a normal plane, just use the same opentx model that you use for quads.

[@kevinsmith9420]

Hood to see you back.

[@Vousie]

Mostly I just think you need to do slightly more thorough preflights: Put it in angle (or stabilize of some kind) mode and check that it stabilises the right way - when you roll it to the left, the ailerons deflect in a way that would bring the back to level. Looking at that very rapid roll every time you put it in acro mode makes me think either you've got your ailerons reversed/swapped or your flight controller is upside down or something compared to what INAV thinks it is - check that when you're holding it level INAV's roll & pitch readout says 0. I doubt it's the V-tail servos that cause a roll that rapid.

[@LockJawFPV]

Really impressive self stabilizer on that go360 the way you mounted it shows that very well look how much movement is in the plane compared to the actual camera keep up the rad content brother Vrap on

[@spartan3299]

INAV is so good and easy now, Thanks DEVs! Been flying INAV since 2017. 6.1.1 Rocks! Come on INAV 7.

[@NURKFPV]

it's so good

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

Soo been researching this myself the past few months. Thank you Paul for the video. Good to see ya!

[@serenestateofbeing1062]

7:13 the sound effects killed me 😂

[@garretpickens5745]

Unless you already did it I would reflash the inav firmware and recalibrate the accelerometer after flashing. I had something similar to this happening, and just had to completely start over by reflashing it. Also in the mixer tab make sure you look at the plane picture and match the control surfaces to the right port number. Good luck. Once you get it flying smooth and nice long range wing flying is so peaceful and fun to go explore.

[@thomasseeley8124]

A little tip for ya when hand launching. Hold your radio with right hand and plane with left hand so you can still work elevators and ailerons. Bite the throttle stick and throttle up, then throw it.

[@MissingNumb]

This one reminded me of the first vid of yoursthat got me straight hooked on fpv... A little jungle adventure in my home of Oahu, by a budding young pilot named Bulbafett... Most epic fall/gulch dive, and a wing lost to the abyss. Stay awesome bredren!

[@Happy_FPV]

Can’t wait to see this. My first and only wing was the dart.. boy did it live up to its name on the very first flight 🤣 #lawndart

[@billyknippers6983]

SAME WITH ME

[@wesorama]

Was that the 250g one? There's a bunch of vids of seasoned pilots who had trouble with that one lol :)

[@jahnkeanater]

Plug into a computer and make sure the board orientation Is correct and calibrate the accelerometer! Also make sure the control surfaces move the correct direction on the ground in angle mode. Rolling the plane right should try to roll left also check pitch and yaw (if it has a rudder).

[@NURKFPV]

I did both those things!

[@tannerchickering]

@@NURKFPVwhen you plugin to configurator and roll the plane - does the image roll the correct way relative to the physical plane or opposite?

[@MacFromUrbexCross]

This whole video really embodied the og vibes of your channel and outtro throughout! Love it dude. We'll have to link up again soon!

[@fastfred529]

Great video showing what most of us go through, planes are a different animal. Thanks for the content Nurk.

[@pollatso]

Welcome back 🙏👍👍

[@funkynerd_com]

I have some feedback on what you are "doing wrong". Or, could just do better. First, you can check angle mode without launching it. Put it in angle mode and move the model around and make sure the ailerons move the correct way on their own. Tilt the model left and the left aileron should come up while the right goes down. Tilt it right and the right should come up while the left should go down. Tilt it forward and the elevators should come up, and vice-versa. Very easy pre-flight test that you should do before EVERY launch along with the high-5 check. If you have that sorted then it is actually safe to auto-launch, even for a maiden. Also, turn on continuous auto-trim in iNav to get it trimmed without any effort. I'm sure you've done your research, but just in case you don't know about Painless 360, it is probably the best KZbin channel for newb wing and iNav pilots. Good luck on Maiden 2.0!

[@4K_Vegas_Drive]

Great video brother. I’m just starting to get into FPV and I like your style about it. Very entertaining and great editing.

[@DutchFPV]

Nice! I have been flying FPV quads for 6 years and got into planes last year, and I had to learn a lot of new stuff too. Look very carefully at the ailerons at 3:19 (attempt 3) and 6:40 (attempt 10), they seem to be reversed as you move the plane. When you have a plane in angle mode and roll it, the aileron on the high wing should be up, and the aileron on the low wing should be down, to get it back to level. Did you reverse the aileron channel on your radio? If so, that would explain why it works in manual but not in angle. Check the receiver tab and make sure nothing is reversed. If anything needs reversing, do it on the flight controller, in the servo mixer (set aileron weight to -100%), not on the radio. On your radio, you can use the same 4 channels as for a Betaflight quadcopter. As for board alignment, at 2:12, the arrow on your FC is pointing forward, and when you fly it, compass and home arrow appear correct, but please check the Setup tab to be sure. The artificial horizon on OSD would be useful for this. (it will move wrongly if board alignment is not correct) At 4:48, it looks more like reversed ailerons than incorrect board alignment. It starts rolling slowly to the left, and then suddenly accelerates, suggesting it wanted to roll the other way, but it still rolls the wrong way, so it corrects even more (in the wrong direction)

[@specialedgaming574]

Do a barrel roll 🤣🤣🤣 I love it

[@p3rpNZ]

I feel like FPV lost its core values and it's good to see you are trying to find them.

[@tmc-fpv]

absolutely agree.

[@PAYNEFPV]

Planes have a learning curve, even after flying quads for years. My first couple launches with my dart 250 mirrored yours, lawn darting into the ground 🤣 Through trial and error and research on the many inav groups and forums, I found out that I needed to add a few degrees of “reflex” to the control surfaces (basically “up” trim but done manually). After that I finally got it up in the air and she flew beautifully. Not sure how the reflex would work with your plane as the dart 250 only has two control surfaces and uses “elevons”. What I would do with your angle mode issue is plug everything in, toggle angle mode and move the plane around in your hand to see what the surfaces are doing before you even attempt to hand launch. If everything is plugged in and set up right, while holding your plane all of your surfaces should be pretty much flat. This will tell you if you have any issues right away. With how yours was wanting to roll right away, if you would have looked at the surfaces before flying, I bet your ailerons weren’t flat at all and trying to compensate already. Inav auto launch is a game changer as well. It can save the gnarliest, nastiest of tosses (given your plane is set up correctly). For long range stuff, cruise and alt hold are fun to toggle on, sit back and relax while you’re surfing the clouds (low clouds 400’ and under haha). Good luck and happy flying 🤙

[@AidanMacnamara777]

OK, I am so glad you posted this as I have the same plane and it does exactly the same as yours when using any modes but manual! I have still not figured out the problem and mine now needs some serious repairs after the last crash!

[@AbdulAleemShekhani]

Missed you mighty Bulbufet, glad to see you having fun and being successful!

[@cold-frontin_penguin7902]

Your vids are so damn engaging. Love the editing and keeping my attention.

[@tonyhadiputra]

That zohd nano talon is my first fpv plane, and its tricky in inav when you setup the elevator, need set to 85 frome 50, so the plane can takeoff more easy, love the plane 😆

[@Jomanji1]

Shouldnt need 100% on the rudder/tail. Also seems like your cg is off. Nose heavy. Sometimes the marks they have for cg arent the best

[@DavidGRCand3d]

BTW - there's a "runaway" ZOHD Nano Talon EVO somewhere between St Bernice and Franklin Indiana. :) Has a GoPro Session in the belly. Lost it a couple years ago. I'd lost site, and flipped the RTH switch for the ZOHD Kopilot, but I think it was still thinking my location from a flight earlier in the week was "home", so it headed to Franklin. :)

[@JamesDowningFPV]

Lol! Loved the editing. Really made this enjoyable. Def looks like you've got something backwards. Did you do the bench testing in horizon mode to get a good feel on the control surface motion when you move the plane out of level? That should provide some clues.

[@dronepilot260rc]

Oh I love the Nano Talon 🎉 sent a few miles out with no issues

[@ScottBalkum]

Oh man, I have felt your pain but man oh man, have I not laughed that hard in a while. Thank you for sharing!!!!!!

[@horizons_edge_]

You can see your ailerons are definitely deflecting the wrong direction while in flight using angle mode. So either your gains are too low and the FC doesn’t have time to react, or your aileron direction is reversed.

[@r3beatty]

I love the zohd stuff- i-ve got a dart and a drift. No self-respecting RC guy would fly the ugly foamies, but they are good for us quad folks crossing over. Soooo much fun. Toss a 2s liion into the dart, fly it until i am bored (30min or so) and toss it back in the car. Pull it out the next day and fly again with no recharge. Quads are work- once you get all the electronics going, planes are easy.

[@shadowofchaos8932]

I'm judging your crocs. But feeling better about my plane flying skills, lol.😂

[@JPspinFPV]

This summer I picked the AtomRC Swordfish and set it up with a head tracking gimbal. It's been a riot.

[@modquad18]

Haha, that brings back memories of my first fixed-wing attempt. Video feed was awesome man, can’t wait to see more 👍🏽

[@stepheny6321]

I use the ZOHD Kopilot and have had great success

[@hoagietime1]

Quad guys, find a fixed wing friend, ask questions. We are here to help

[@Fusionman187]

I started with a DIY flight controller and a wood framed tri-copter. I've seriously considered reviving it just for laughs.

[@bluefpv3263]

funky music in the back love it :D

[@NURKFPV]

always a good time!

[@porroco]

The best FPV wing was the parrot disco, you could use LTE to fly the wing for as long you had a good mah battery

[@tbrcwings5898]

Love this Paul! Wings and planes can be challenging but when you get it right it's an absolute blast. Keep at it and don't give up. Fixed wing adds a whole new level of enjoyment, have fun with. 🙂

[@narnasqueneth]

Keep at it Nurk! I came from quads and the nano talon was my first plane too :-) Would be awesome to see another creator like yourself creating fixed wing content 🙂

[@oscarmeyrick3140]

Can you put an SD card in the flight controller and collect logs (blackbox)? It would be interesting to see what angles the flight controller saw in flight and what servo outputs it sent.

[@Stygmah]

Wings are great man. Try out the ZOHD drift with a 2S 18650 and just a plain PWM RX. It's so light its hard to fuck up and it will fly for like 2 hrs.

[@nilsmensch]

i have absolutly no idea, what u are doing wrong and i can relate to it sooo good. im still new at fpv (6months or so) and there is always a new problem, that i have to fix :D but i love it

[@AdamWeatherall]

I’m building the same kit plane right now , this is perfect 👍

[@x8n1720]

For the isues in angle Mode, read the comments from @jahnkeanater and @wesorama. In addition: 1. Check CG. Seems a little bit noseheavy 2. Throw it harder. More speed means more authority on the controll Surfaces and more lift. 3. You have a V-Tail, means Rudder and Elevator share the Surfaces. You can't set your Elevator to 100% in the Mix because your Rudder need some deflection too. For the launch issues in Manual: To fighting the Torque Roll in full manual setup a Switch on your Radio to enable the Trims on the Ailerons and in addition create on that Switch a second Flight mode "launch" with its own Trim-Settings. Trim the Ailerons to the direction of your Motor spinning direction. After Launch the Switch set the Trims back to neutral. Good Luck

[@ericapelz260]

I got nothing on what is wrong, but you might consider flying manual up high then flip to angle mode. This way you are high enough to flip back to manual and recover before becoming a ballistic lawndart. It might save you some glue, and cameras.

[@yamabushisama]

its was very cool watching you mission

[@harryhalfmoon]

Heeey! At .8:01 ... Let's go wing foiling with Damien Leroy!

[@joelewandowski8232]

The hobbyzone aero scout makes a excellent FPV plane.

[@dronepilot260rc]

You should do a build using the Zohd Kopilot next time haha

[@Nick-zk8np]

Just throw it in Auto lunch. I did exactly the same and the Talon started as good as I would never able to.

[@jeffhenson1994]

love it

[@smackfpv]

Move your Crocs to sports mode and it will fly better... 😋 I have one of these, flies well but ailerons are a bit sticky. ZOHD is doing a good job making these fun and easy to build! Not sure what you have wrong to cause your issues flying acro? Have fun, that is what it is all about!

[@Sp3ktral22]

My son is a huge fan of yours. He asked if you are part of the Bear Brotherhood FPV scene?

[@13FPV]

I have a perfect tuned Nano Talon. I fly it almost every week for 3 years! Updated with a new Flightcontroller, same as yours. Do you want my INAV dump?

[@hateforall4012]

Well that was fun! 😅

[@NURKFPV]

Glad you liked it!

[@nickbrown7700]

Hi. I'm new here. Your intro was fantastic. Short and sweet. Impressive. Now I'll watch more.

[@derelictfpv]

I prefer carbon fiber over foam!😂😂 But great video man! It was pretty entertaining and I really felt your struggle just watching! 🍺🍺

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Nice crash reel, Bro! :)

[@karlj.2360]

Flite Test is a YT that does RC planes and a large variety of them (they even made a toilet fly). They have also done FPV and drones so whether you contact them directly or seek assistance in the community hopefully some one can help you on your problem.

[@benjaming9835]

great to see you flying a plane :) , haha ya the ZOHD nano talon can be a hand full. Maybe your PCB orientation is messed up in Inav and servo direction?

[@RizHassan]

INAV!!! you need Ardupilot ACRO Mode. I have two Carbon-Z T-28 setup with Ardupilot and works flawless.

[@permanentlygrounded7770]

I have many planes. Fixed wing over quads for me. I enjoy quads too though.

[@NETBotic]

I just switched from analog to HD FPV and it's a lot more fun. Nothing like HD crash videos with no extra cameras to get smashed 🤣

[@TryAgainFPV]

seems like the FC is upside down.. it keep attempting to flip when you put on angle mode. Just a thought. Maybe flip the orientation in whatever software youre using.

[@xaralampos1959]

Man. I don’t t know what is going on but as I was watching some fpv videos I started thinking a haven’t seen a video popping as suggested from you and there it is. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. I’m not subscribed in your channel to be honest but I was watching you videos very often. I only thought where is Nurk and never searched or said anything out loud. Damn 🤔 Nice to see a video from you again.

[@NURKFPV]

I think it's time to subscribe! ;-)

[@smp1990]

just make sure you dont have any mixes on your tx for the control surfaces. All that kind of mixing should be done on the FC.

[@dihler55]

I just recently also got a Nano Talon Evo and it has turned into my ardupilot learnign platform and I absolutely love it. I need to give you a word of advice: the way the ailerons are set up can give you some trouble once you hit speed because the rod that controls them flexes too much and can lead to the control input for roll being inverted (found out the hard way because I didn't wanna believe the person that told me). so if you ever wanna push the speed of this lil bird defo mod servos into the wings.

[@NURKFPV]

Great advice!

[@dihler55]

Also as to know whats wrong it might be that the flight controller alignment is somehow messed up. Also you can bench test angle mode because if you pick it up in angle mode it should counter your movements with the control surfaces. Easier than throwing it into the ground haha.

[@NoFlyDrone]

Servo mod is a game changer on this platform.

[@dihler55]

Agreed. It handles so much better after. @@NoFlyDrone

[@WDZaphod]

I always Maiden my Planes in Autolaunch, never failed. Stock PIDs will be fine, just FF needs some attention.

[@RCOverKill]

I flew los planes b4 quads, just 1 v tail, they work a bit different than a plane with a rudder, but that was 23 years ago, lol

[@FPVenius]

It's not something simple like the board being mounted upside down (or otherwise configured to be inverted,) right? It seems like the plane keeps wanting to turn over when you turn on angle mode.

[@ThePapanoob]

You raising the elevator to 100 made it impossible to use yaw & elevator at the same time. You need to have it at 50 for it to allow it to be mixed. If you had to little elevator authority you had to increase feedforward for it :-) but have fun planes are insanely fun

[@ThePapanoob]

Also make sure the gyro moves in the correct direction (i bet it does but still). And 100% make sure youre using the correct servos for the correct servopin :D theres NO way to fix it in software! 3 left wing 4 right wing 5 left vtail 6 right vtail (when looking from the motor to the front of the wing)