Nurse Guilty Of Homicide

Registered Nurse RaDonda Vaught was found guilty of negligent homicide. I talk about the case and my thoughts as a nurse. Nurses are under so much stress and this is a case that proves that anyone of us can fall victim to accidents. Usually accidents like this happen because of lack of checks and balances in the system and nurses have to be aware of why safety checks are in place.
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[@CrosbyTheNomadNurse]

Thanks for watching

[@kathydieck3083]

I want Vandebilt hospital held accountable

[@kyunglee4548]

You are correct, "nursing profession" is NOT going to change... overworked, underpaid, overstressed.

[@zuiiee]

the day she was found guilty was the day i decided to retire from nursing.

[@thewellfedhuman3043]

Yeah Healthcare preaches teamwork...until there is a mistake. The nurse will be thrown to the wolves. If you cannot trust Anyone you work with then that's a huge problem.

[@marcela6398]

The more I get closer to graduation the more hopeless I feel. I can’t believe there are nurses that are ok with her going to jail (some of my classmates). Even the family didn’t press charges, why no legal consequences for anyone else? How can we stand up for ourselves if there are still nurses with “loyalty” mentality for hospitals that never protect them?

[@mrjonesandme8848]

You are always on your own. Always. Find out policy and stick to it. Refer back to it on a regular basis. You document everything. And don't do a damn thing they tell you to that is out of your scope of practice and not in the policy. Don't ever blow off corporate emails because that's when they notify you of policy changes. Stay off your phone, care for your patients and meticulous documentation and you will be fulfilled in the profession.

[@HRU-ou3vi]

Nursing students don’t know anything and opinion doesn’t matter. Also, you only criminalize an non-intentional act or error. If that was the case everyone should be in jail.

[@poodledaddles1091]

thanks

[@sterlinelouisrn555]

That's why I'm a 1:1 nurse, I can't be responsible for 40 patients in a nursing home.

[@SarahBrown-mg6cy]

Interested in how you do this. Soon to graduate

[@patriotvet5569]

There’s a reason for safety systems and the hospital leadership should be accountable for not getting the system fixed more rapidly and for not initiating an interim system while the system was being repaired. The entire staff was okay with bypassing safety.

[@mrjonesandme8848]

But only one took the fall

[@Manny-gp2ub]

So now if you say the truth , you incriminate yourself. More and more med errors will get swept under the rug due to this. Few really understand how easy it is to make an error when your on the floor with your bladder about to bust cause you haven’t had 5 min free to pee, call lights and phone ringing with less techs every shift. It’s a tragedy the lady passed, but let’s be real over 70 years old with a brain bleed, poor prognosis. That doesn’t mean this isn’t a tragedy. But few will know the burden this nurse who meant to do no harm will now have to carry. So message to young people thinking about becoming nurses, DONT! The profession don’t care about you , and no one has your back.

[@mrjonesandme8848]

Yup

[@deegulyassy153]

Double yup!

[@Qqxx22]

Well this is concerning as I’m headed towards nursing… lol

[@kristonjones2201]

Supervisor was told about med error, did nothing. Said nothing. It's a damn shame.

[@mychannelnotyours]

Most supervisors don’t know shit.

[@l.chanellejennings7783]

I read the court documents and it said there were 3 warnings that she had picked wrong medication and she over rode the warnings 3 times and they said that was key component in their decision. They said she had multiple opportunities to correct her mistake.

[@Qqxx22]

If that’s the case then… I guess 3 warnings is a good number to double check your actions..trying to think if I would change my own actions if I were in her shoes. Maybe she was lost in thought. Mindless going through the motions. Probably thinking about all the other things she needed to do before she got home. Definitely something to think about. Thanks for sharing this.

[@brigittej5158]

I don't think she should get jail time.

[@redwhiteandbluebonnets8180]

There's a very different culture within hospitals for physicians, and for nurses (and other licensed staff for that matter.) When in the OR, if you hear two surgeons talking you might here surgeon1: "Oh, while I was covering for you this weekend, your patient John Doe came in to the ER, you'd done a radical earlobeotomy on him? So I found he had a YourMedicalSchool class ring in his ear, I removed it and irrigated the surgical site with cheeze whiz and told him to follow up with you this week." So, surgeon 1 told surgeon 2 what he had done wrong, and how he managed it, and surgeon 2 got the message, because that is the physician culture. Nursing is different; "We heard you put a syringe with 1 cc of fentanyl in the sharps container without wasting the fentanyl first, that's a firing, and we're reporting you to the state BNE." Doctors fix the problem. Nurses fix the blame. Big difference.

[@helenareynolds6046]

This nurse did have consequences to her actions before going to court. She lost her license, her livelihood and had to pay over $60,000 in fines. She was definitely held accountable and did not deserve criminal charges! What is wrong with the nursing commuity!?

[@Lady.B0420]

Would you feel differently if the wrong meds were given to your parents, siblings, spouse, or loved one and they died? Anyone involved should be charged with negligent homicide. They killed someone.

[@zuiiee]

@@Lady.B0420 are you serious?! did you read the details? or the out of court payment to the family restricting them to an nda? to be charged after you had paid fines and lost your license id say that's enough.... especially since she has to live with knowing she hurt someone on accident.

[@milaholly4110]

Speaking of shared responsibility, nurses are shamed into working doubles, taking on additional tasks etc for coworkers who are out sick/maybe just need a rest. Overtime is somehow discouraged. There is now way to work faster without cutting corners (which I will not do). This is how med errors happen. The higher ups don't care. They won't paying the price. Neither will this nurse. I went into admin. Hate to defect, but after this case...no way fellas We had holes in our schedule daily. We also had good nurses in a float pool calling asking to pick up those shifts. They were told "It's okay. We got it. " . First of all, what is this "we?". Secondly, it costs less to endanger patients and nurses than to pay a float nurse. Yet they say you don't care about the patients unless you put them in danger. COVID is being used as an excuse to make even more money. I worked in a behavioral SNF (prior to taking this position). The great, bleeding heart state of California hasn't come in to inspect since the pandemic began. All SNFs were given money per pt. Around 6 MILLION per 100 bed facility. I saw no more nurses. I was given "COVID" pay because I was new plus market value. The old nurses....no increase. No extra staff. Nothing new for the patients. Many facilities kept the money (since there were no restrictions as to it's use) and sold. You are correct, the public knows nothing about these dynamics. Making it easier to blame only the nurse. Don't get me wrong, that's a big mistake. I was vilified for doing my job properly and spending an extra 4 hours a day properly doing the job of the treatment nurse the two of us used to cover for. They didn't like it and that's too damn bad. We have 6 checks, how about the owners and administrators who would throw us under the bus in an instant. Bye bye nursing.

[@milaholly4110]

Sorry for the typos. I'm at the gym.

[@milaholly4110]

And I couldn't respond to the video about the nurse charged in Fla. for some reason. The comment button was closed/missing. My Samsung perhaps.

[@guttenaug947]

If it wasn’t scanned, cause Pyxis was down means nurse self reported. She should have been given a cut on sentence for admitting fault. Now no one will admit medication mistakes.

[@l.chanellejennings7783]

The court documents said that the Pyxis was working and in fact warned her 3 times that she had the incorrect medication. You can read through the court briefings they are public from the court system.

[@guttenaug947]

@@l.chanellejennings7783 I should look in to it but I have never worked with a Pyxis that can give you warnings you are wrong. you just don't find the med under the pt by name or room. Thats all a Pyxis is really doing. or you override the whole thing and access whatever is in the pyxis.

[@l.chanellejennings7783]

@@guttenaug947 Yes give it a read. The Pyxis was working fine. The medication was there under the generic name. She only typed in VE and then scrolled through and chose the wrong medication. She said she never actually read the label. The courts documents included step by step what was done, you can read it straight from the briefings.

[@nicoleoleary3786]

There's so much that goes into nursing especially the medication part that's why they use Medicaid with the nurses these things happen as tragic as it is that someone died accidents happen every day this nurse shouldn't be charged for her mistake like that

[@gelosalabar9523]

I mean she already lost her license...but prison for a mistake? And they use her own incident report against her on court? Il tell you one thing thats going to start to happen..is that when nurses make mistakes on the floor i bet you they wont file an incident report anymore since they could go to prison for it

[@Qqxx22]

Yeah kind of shity to punish some one for being honest. Probably the only honest person in the entire incident from what I’m reading (supervisor was told about the med error and did nothing, hospital tried to cover it up as well.) Prosecutors are a son a bitch some times. From what I’ve learned about them is they don’t care about the consequences of the guilty verdict. They calculate whether they think they can get a conviction or not. And if it is a high chance they can they will take that person to court just to get the Win on their record.

[@twinsweare2]

Yes! It's an extremely adversarial situation for the nurse. The boards of nursing all act as tribunals and do not in any way protect any nurse who has been accused. Courts work to obtain convictions, done in this situation.

[@kloatlanta]

I renew my liability insurance every year for this reason.

[@missqjulie]

Honestly felt that she should have kept her mouth shut. Kept or moving.

[@SABOREAME68]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Couldn't agree with you more, however, it's a sad situation. I recalled someone saying long ago "The Rope breaks at it's thinnest part" and this is what has happened in this case.

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Lol the funny part is the hospital covered it up and didn’t report it to regulators. They reported that the patient died of normal causes and paid the family off. They only prosecuted her after an anonymous tip off to the state investigators. The investigation was set up as a criminal prosecution and the only person they can prosecute is the nurse. They found fault with the hospital for trying to hide it from the public but stated the hospital’s actions of outside the scope of their investigation.

[@Qqxx22]

Damn.

[@weekendnomad5038]

I just feel like there are so many other people involved in this so how did it get past multiple people? I’ve never seen a nurse get meds without doctor signing off. Never really see meds administered without a second nurse present to double check.did things change or??

[@justines1919]

Yes, why was such a dangerous drug so readily available?

[@weekendnomad5038]

May have not been dangerous per say but they may have had a drug interaction from accidentally mixing meds that shouldn’t be mixed

[@justines1919]

@@weekendnomad5038 no the drug alone killed her. It’s a paralytic

[@Spiritarlc]

Very well explained, thanks 😊

[@NurseologyLyfe]

Wow..this Nurse was definitely thrown under the bus in this situation. I will need to research this story

[@weekendnomad5038]

Oh woooowww but the pharmacy has to fill this … so did they give her the wrong thing too? They can’t give it without the paper order ?? Am I wrong about this ?? Or do they e scribe now ? Doesn’t doctor have to sign off on that? When I get meds there’s normally an extra nurse to watch what they give ..

[@aleta9134]

This is why paper files are always useful and if computer system goes down at less you got the old way. My grandma was a nurse. She use to go to colleges and universities to learn the new stuff and come back to teach the other nurses the new stuff. She would say everyone is to sign for everything. Everything has to be double checked. This was back in the 50 and on into the 80's. You said do do. Yes I went there

[@everythingtravelnurse]

It's interesting listening to your response vs other nurses as your response is more towards protecting yourself as a RN. You sound like my CPL instructor but a RN instead. Thank you for your post.

[@lailapoche1692]

Just passed my NCLEX and am apply for my 1st hospital job. This story right here is one of the top reasons I don't wanna go into MedSurg, I feel like you have to know EVERYTHING to cover your ass- let alone be a good nurse. I'm tryna specialize asap so I can travel nurse asap. Wish me luck y'all tmrw I'm marching into L&D units w gift baskets, an illustrated cover letter esume and fingers crossed things work out.... Otherwise plan B is ER, which isn't bad...but I'm in Philly and not tryna get hurt on the job

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Lol ER is bad. Very few nurses choose to stay in the ER because it’s soul crushing. You don’t know unless you worked in the ED as a tech. Most nurses don’t realize that the ER is used as a screen to filter patients out that don’t need to be admitted or isn’t willing to wait.

[@lailapoche1692]

@@zeitgeistx5239 Good to know🤔 omg I thought I'd seen a shit show, but then I went past the Temple Hospital ER on my way to L&D 😬 talk about a cluuuusterfuck of a shit show- ppl yelling over each other, fighting outside, bullet proof vested security trying to maintain order...and this was midday like 1pm on a monday. Could you imagine a Saturday night...w a full moon😶... I feel like I'd actually develop an aneurism from all the stree.

[@cupcakequeen6294]

Stay away from the ER! Because of Covid it’s nothing more than a holding place for patients that need to be in the ICU! You’ll have to take care of these patients that are on a ventilator and drips! Do yourself a favor and choose an area of nursing with less liability! Preferably one where you’re not having to administer medication or have more than 1 patient.

[@deegulyassy153]

Don’t think you’re safe in L/D.. you take care of two pt….. one, you can’t see.

[@carolyndee4565]

The chain of responsibility. I agree with your comment that others were responsible in what happened in this case. The nurse should have checked and double checked the medication before it is administered. Have another nurse check the medication to make sure it is correct

[@richschumann5145]

If we as nurses make any error, other than documenting the crap out of the situation, get a lawyer, and only answer the questions asked of you...no more, no less. If it is a small issue, where life is not in jeopardy, take responsibility, this is the best thing you can do. Learn from the mistake. Change how you do that thing so the situation doesn't happen again. If it is a more serious error, remain silent and cover your ass. No one else will. In every situation, apologize, be remorseful, and ask how you can help now.

[@ijustrealllylikecats]

Yes it's a bad situation for the nurse. That's not a "bad situation" for the patient though. The patient is dead.

[@bata2881]

I wish you'd use pictures of the people and meditations in the video as you speak

[@HeavenlyFaithful]

Can you make a video on travel nurse contact shortages?

[@CrosbyTheNomadNurse]

Yes

[@DinSC]

Either proofread OR..Learn to spell .(check your headline)

[@thenursescott]

I know I'm in the minority disagreeing with so many of my fellow nurses, but no one but RaDonda was responsible for her fatal med error. To be clear, Vanderbilt is far from blameless here; they broke the law and tried to cover up this event. I talk more about my opinion in a vlog video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKuyp6BnjtWMoNU.