Nurse Practitioner Unemployed for 3 months | Job search Struggled

[@CindymeCindy]

I’m a 62 year old RN. Left patient care 20 years ago to do chart reviews for health plans. Worked up to highest money and responsibility. Then suddenly, our national health plan just went under. Totally closed. As well, my reviewing of charts work went to AI. AI can read and make decisions so all the nurses doing paperwork nursing who were burned out from patient care now have no place to go. I would rather slit my throat than go back to patient care but it doesn’t matter anyway because I’ve been out for 20 years so there’s no way I would be allowed to. So I find myself jobless for two years now. No one will hire me for anything. I’m literally applying for jobs with a 50% or more pay cut and they don’t want me either. In fact, there’s a new discriminatory practice out there. I used to get jobs as long as I could get an interview. But now the recruiter will call you and say we’d love to interview you, but we want you to do a little get-to-know-you video first. They want a video where I talk about myself for one minute. However, after doing these videos, I never hear from them again. There’s nothing wrong with my videos. I talk with a smile and just talk about my career, but the video is a discriminatory practice, that weeds out older people, fat people, and possibly even minorities . I can’t get past those videos.

[@GaelleMavis]

Oh no! I’m so sorry you are going through this ! I don’t even know what more to say… I’m sorry. I hope you do find another job very soon 🙏🏾

[@GaelleMavis]

@sistahinscrubs thanks

[@clemyscouch]

I’m sorry you’re going through that as well! I’m almost a 60yr old nurse. I started my own business 3yrs ago bc I too had to get away from floor nursing. I’m currently doing school nursing part while growing my business. My business is growing to the point I will be able to quit my job so. Don’t give up. It took me 2yrs to find my business

[@GaelleMavis]

@@clemyscouch that’s so motivating! What’s business did you go into ?

[@shamekaugeorge6877]

Try to teach a Cna program

[@MedEd-gx3up]

If u wanna be a provider don’t go to NP school after ur RN go to PA school. You will always have a job as a provider with lateral mobility. No always going back to school to switch specialties.

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you for sharing your insight! I see many people going to PA school now instead of NP

[@loujon191]

News flash. Some people become nurses because they want to be nurses which includes nurse practitioners

[@MedEd-gx3up]

Yea so they deal with the nursing n nurse practitioners issues as such.

[@Nini-fb1rx]

PA is physician assistant? Correct?

[@michellesabatinifornaro4859]

That’s fine if you want to be an assistant under a physician. If you want to be a nurse practitioner, you practice advanced nursing, not medicine, and not under a physician. But suit yourself.

[@jeremyjones5140]

Hey there love. Thank you for talking about this important topic. It speaks volumes as to how healthcare especially nursing is becoming a more difficult industry to attain a stable career. I do want to add a couple things from my point of view. RNs are leaving bedside way too quickly!! In my humble opinion, all RNs need to have ICU/High level acute care experience before enrolling in a nurse practitioner program for at least 5 years or more. There is a very laser focused underlining reasoning as to why CRNA school is set up the way it is. You dont know what you dont know until you have the experience to know that. CRNA students are now being comparable to Anesthesiology residents because they have to know pretty much the same curriculum and vice versa. CRNAs are approaching physician anesthesiology levels of knowledge when they graduate which is why the process to become a CRNA is very strict and much more difficult than "traditional" nursing school and it should be. Physician anesthesiologists are now teaching in many CRNA programs and you are expected to know and pass ALLLL your classes with near stellar grades. No offense to anyone but one thing for sure is CRNA schooling will be your top priority and NOT your family, friends, nursing job, etc. Nothing else will matter because you have to pretty much maintain A grades throughout the whole program in order to not failout. Also, many CRNA schools are requiring ICU RNs to have certifications after their name . Why you ask? Well because CRNA programs are getting more competitive every year. Those are going to be your CCRN, CSC, or CMC. Getting accepted into CRNA is already a beast. To graduate CRNA school??? That will take a monster lol. Issues with psych NPs: Psych NPs are for the most part wonderful providers of psychiatric care. I know this because I did my BSN capstone in an inpatient psych facility. I was with them and my precepting nurse every other day. The problem now is that psych NPs (especially newer ones) are loosing respect amongst their psychiatrist colleagues because their education and experience does not adequately prepare them for the job. It honestly takes a long time to become a well qualified psychiatrist especially within the realm of child psychiatry. IF anyone is looking into this career for a higher money grab and they have never truly worked a respectable amount of time in a in-patient psychiatric unit as an RN then you will be very lost, overwhelmed, mentally brokedown, and burnt out. Pretty quickly. You have to remember you are the one coming up with the differential diagnosis. How would you be able to differentiate someone with possible catatonic schizophrenia vs. schizotypal personality disorder? What if you dont notice the prodrome symptomology? Meds? Aripiprazole, lamotrigine, and other SSRIs are not always the answer and you have to know how therapeutically treat them. Lexapro is a good fall back tho lol. You are not going to know how to adequately do that in just one year. Any school that offers that should be reported and investigated. Right now psych NPs are making alot of money but if you pay attention to the trends, too many RNs and NPs are going this route and not paying attention to how they are flooding the market. Especially if all it takes is a year to become a psych NP. Soon they wont be any better off then the FNPs. Bottom line is RNs need to spend a respectable amount of time at the bedside and maybe jump into other specialties before becoming a provider. Thanks for reading this far 😊😊

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you so much for sharing this. A lot to impact for sure ! Thank you !!

[@wizardofahhhhhhz]

I agree with everything that you said, with the exception of nurses needing ICU/High level acute care experience before enrolling in an NP program. I’m an ICU nurse, but I have a ton of respect for nurses that work in family practice, psych, peds, OB, oncology, etc. I have critical care experience, but I would probably suck as an oncology NP because I know the bare minimum of what the NCLEX required regarding certain specialties. All fields need NPs, every situation isn’t acute care, and that’s great. The goal is to prevent patients from ever needing to come to our unit. Besides that, you are spot on with what you said about the CRNA route. It is very selective and for good reason.

[@koolquality]

You would be surprised how much discrimination goes on in healthcare. You can be qualified on paper but if the interviewer hates your accent, you will not get the job. It's sad. I have seen it all the time.

[@GaelleMavis]

Yup! Been a victim of it

[@Yaaspassions]

My dear as I listen to your story I am hearing quite a few things from you. First, you quit your NO job without anything to replace it. Second, you have 2 very young children and a husband that you want to be at home with. Third, you desire to go back to school for CRNA. Fourth, you are living in the Midwest and not getting the jobs that you think that you should have because you are a NP. Lastly, you turn down a position because it’s lower than the job you walked away from and yet you have faith that God will give you something more. My question to you is, could it be that God has you stagnated so that you can become clear. I live in the Midwest and I am also a registered nurse. I had to be honest with myself as well and recognize what was the driving force in my life and career. So I as you if you are presented an opportunity that will allow for you to be home to enjoy your family but pays less money why would you turn it down? If you don’t have to rush to get a job and can go back to school while your husband works then just do that. None of us gets everything we want there will always be a sacrifice in one area or another. Finally, if you haven’t already noticed there is absolutely racism in the healthcare sector especially with nursing. Be blessed!!

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you 🤍

[@YawAsamoah-m1w]

Wishing you well and the best of success in your search for a better job.

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@Babyluv_]

I once saw someone on YT say that the NP field is over saturated because NP programs accept everybody and give out degrees like candy. So, if that’s true, it may be hard to find work.

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you for watching and giving your insight! And yes really anybody can get into those FNP programs which is crazy to think about now

[@nighni459]

Not all schools.

[@JAM2USA2018]

There is lot of bogus things going on with these nursing programs in America, especially with people from African countries. You'll know what I'm talking

[@blossom30x4]

The DNP to me is an unnecessary degree for a nurse. Advancement in nursing, unlike other professions, is not as respected.

[@GaelleMavis]

Yes some people don’t care about whether or not you hold a doctorate degree

[@wizardofahhhhhhz]

Agreed. You can’t even say that you’re a doctor in certain environments 😩. I respect the hard work that it takes to get a DNP, but it just doesn’t seem like a good return on investment.

[@GaelleMavis]

@@wizardofahhhhhhz yes. At lest if you are not in academia

[@Womenofhue]

It’s so discouraging I recently graduated Dec 2023. My speciality is pmhnp I also just left a toxic np job and it’s been very difficult finding another job. I’ve been unemployed for over a month now and I apply but no response, I had one employer setup an interview then call me the same day of just to tell me they decided to hire from within . The job market is bad right now I don’t predict it getting any better at least until after the election in my opinion.

[@truthteller313]

Do you have psych nurse experience? Bc I see jobs everywhere. There's a agency that text me about psych and. Correctional for 64 hr

[@Womenofhue]

@@truthteller313 I only have experience as an psych NP

[@truthteller313]

@@Womenofhue . No bedside??

[@marciasmith2761]

Midwifery is a great profession. You may need to think about that. Good luck!!!

[@GaelleMavis]

I was told getting a job there is also tough

[@GaelleMavis]

And also I did about 150 clinical hours of ob during np school but I don’t have any L&D or Mother baby experience

[@3tolove]

I hear you! So sad.

[@GaelleMavis]

😔

[@TheMomLifee]

I appreciate your vulnerability and I know God has a plan for you and soon you will come back and testify! I also had to leave my full time job at a very popular and well sort after medical facility in California to go back to school for my prerequisites.. it was a very difficult decision and I tried to see how I could go part time or per diem but that wasn’t happening and i was determined to start.. age not on my side anymore .. now I am almost done and looking for a more stable part time position as an LVN and it’s been almost impossible to find one! I never get call backs and even just like you, a few weeks ago, an interview I was scheduled for was canceled cos they said the position had been filled . I currently work PRN at a skilled facility but shifts are not stable at all! I am kind of shocked that it’s taking this long to find a job actually…

[@JAM2USA2018]

You know "God" plan for someone? Smfh

[@HOYANA2024]

13-10-2024 GOD BLESS POWERFULY YOU AND YOUR FAMILY !!! I DEDICATE THIS SONG 🎶 BETTER DAYS COMING 🎶 OF MERCYME FOR YOU MY FRIEND !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤BRASIL 🥰 😍 🥰 😍 🥰 😍 🥰

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you ! Amen 🙏🏾

[@HOYANA2024]

@@GaelleMavis 13-10-2024 GOD BLESS YOU FOR READING MY COMMENTS !!! BRASIL 🥰 😍 🥰 😍 🥰

[@koolquality]

Also, employers are now looking at social media and I would not be surprised if they look at your youtube page and make a decision based on what they see. I watched another NP on here who believes thats what happened when they didn't get a job.

[@GaelleMavis]

I do not use my government name on here

[@beenthereworethat1603]

Why don’t you just take a 4-8 week travel nurse position for now and just keep applying. You can start in probably 2-3 weeks go tax exempt for that contract for now.

[@GaelleMavis]

Now I cannot but it’s something I have considered yes

[@nighni459]

Stop wasting time. All these degrees and no jobs.

[@nighni459]

The problem you all want to run to be NPs . I suggest people move through,icu,ER and other rotations before they go to school for NP. They should require 10 solid years before people are accepted in a NP program.

[@michellesabatinifornaro4859]

That’s definitely not true. There are 3 million nurses in the US and only 300,000 NPs.

[@nighni459]

@@michellesabatinifornaro4859 you can disagree but you can't tell me.a board certified NP that's not true.

[@greeneyesjackson9434]

To me, that was a sign for you to start your own business? IV HYDRATION? URGENT CARE? HOME VISITS? What do you think?

[@GaelleMavis]

Aww I actually took a iv hydration class. Been thinking about it ! Wait can I start an urgent care business ? Hmm

[@fafanayo7300]

You should still being working as RN at per diem level, while looking for NP job.

[@chinneynz7861]

You are gonna hate this but it might be your persentation. I am a hiring executive and we do look at overall presentation especially if you are going to cater to a diverse pool of patients. All the best.

[@blossom30x4]

At least tell her one of two things you see that needs improvement. That would help.

[@GaelleMavis]

What do you mean by presentation?

[@GaelleMavis]

For real. Mind you this is me recording a video to post on KZbin not me having a job interview. So I’m actually very confused 🤣

[@km4641]

I am very confused as well. Why would they look at her presentation? The medical field looks for the brain and not the presentation. She might be way smarter than a lot of people with good presentation. By the way this is a video about reality for job seekers and not a makeup video. Did you see her photo at the end of the video? Keep applying sister, God will provide something better for you.

[@randomvideoshere6540]

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[@GaelleMavis]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🤍

[@albertmatunda5387]

Become a trucker or electrician.

[@GaelleMavis]

Interesting

[@eunicenptalkshow9155]

am in school for Psych NP and am really surprised why FNP are turning to Psych. what's wrong with FNP?

[@GaelleMavis]

Hello eunice! Thanks for watching the video ! I can’t speak for everyone but psych offers a flexibility in the schedule but also more benefits. And being dual certified also makes you more marketable, I guess

[@kayabe856]

@@GaelleMavisI know 4 psych NPs at my job who are having trouble finding work. The FNP had a job about a month after finishing.

[@GaelleMavis]

@@kayabe856 oh wow ! Thank you for sharing this

[@ed7459]

Hi, try applying for medical science liaison positions with medical device/pharma companies. More $$$$ less stress

[@GaelleMavis]

Thank you so much !

[@ed7459]

@GaelleMavis just read you are an educator. Pharma, medical devices, and even healthcare tech companies need educators, specialists, liaisons, etc. It's getting a bit difficult for those positions because they pay very well and more ppl are discovering them. But I think you have an excellent chance. Just keep applying. Bedside is draining!!!

[@GaelleMavis]

@@ed7459 thank you !!!!

[@nighni459]

Go be a nurse educator you have that degree.

[@GaelleMavis]

🙏🏾

[@michellesabatinifornaro4859]

The tele health positions are not really options. I have no idea how anyone actually gets those jobs. They require you have licenses in multiple states - sometimes ten or twenty and they want you to have them before they hire you, and each job is asking for different states. You would need to register your CDS and DEA. You are easily talking $20,000 in licensure fees, let alone the hassle and the time to apply and the upkeep of each license. I can’t believe anyone does that, but they do and that’s how they get away with it. They pay lower than in person as well. If a company requires that they need to facilitate it and pay for it after they hire you.

[@GaelleMavis]

That’s what I was thinking ! It’s crazy they needed 8 licenses and want me to pay for them all before hire. That’s crazy

[@marymatos5224]

⁠@@GaelleMavisI had an interview today like this, they are asking for licensing in other states, they said i don’t have to prescribe, sounds weird, i’m latina and i have been struggling to find a job.

[@truthteller313]

Job everywhere. Why?

[@sidonitcheuffa6761]

Gael how do they become a nurse educator in America?

[@GaelleMavis]

I have a master in nurse education

[@sidonitcheuffa6761]

What is APRN license ma'am ?

[@GaelleMavis]

An APRN (Advanced Practice Registered Nurse) license allows registered nurses to practice at a higher level of expertise and autonomy. It qualifies them to diagnose, treat, and prescribe medications.

[@sidonitcheuffa6761]

@GaelleMavis thank you. So the APRN is different from Np of any discipline?

[@GaelleMavis]

@@sidonitcheuffa6761 NPs are APRNs

[@sidonitcheuffa6761]

@@GaelleMavis thank you very much

[@GaelleMavis]

@@sidonitcheuffa6761of course ! Thank you for watching. I hope you liked the video and subscribed 💕

[@nursemcfarlane6655]

Study harder. Gain more confidence. Do volunteer work or less than until.

[@GaelleMavis]

What to study ?

[@beautifulstar2119]

38 time…. I think it’s racism…they sense the accent and feel like you wouldn’t be good enough. U would be surprised of the stereotypes for black nurses with accents. Meanwhile Hispanic nurses some don’t speak any English and they have charge nurses jobs using google translater when talking to clients.

[@AlyssaLuisa]

First!❤

[@GaelleMavis]

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