Podcast: Plant-Based Meats: Part 1

[@sylmacg1]

"We shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" I like that!

[@Joseph1NJ]

Voltaire in the 1600s

[@sylmacg1]

@@Joseph1NJ Thanks!

[@atulpj]

He wouldn't say the same for intermittent fasting or keto. Double standards?

[@sylmacg1]

@@atulpj I haven't heard or looked into what he's said about intermittent fasting, but there are studies to back up that Keto isn't "good."

[@atulpj]

@@sylmacg1 That could be true. But for person in their 60s the benefits of going keto might far outweigh the risks. Moreover, these studies cannot be applicable to all the ethnic groups around the world. There might be humans who would perform quite well on such a diet. Recently I came across a news where a population that had been vegetarian for a long time has been found to be producing vitamin B12 in their body. Humans have changed their diets a lot and people have varying degrees of adaptability to various diets. We can only know the truth if people try different things and settle on something that works for them. That way even if it doesn't work it would be their decision and their learning. Isn't that what life is about? There are too many factors which cannot be controlled for in an experiment. I just can't accept suggestions from people like Mr. Mike who have such strong biases.

[@tybrady1935]

I make my own tempeh. A wonderful meat substitute.

[@andrews.506]

Very Cool!

[@otiliatibljas2814]

Do you have a recipe you'd be willing to share?

[@Fearzero]

I had a friend who said he made his own mayonnaise. I didn't ask.

[@kuangoseilah8082]

I love tempeh. It's better for folks over 60 it's not set in calcium like tofu, some is set in magnesium but most tofu is set in calcium which is often contaminated with lead and calcium supplements can cause strokes, heart attacks, dementia and brittle bones in people over 60. Tempeh is very good source of protein and fibef plus more

[@tybrady1935]

@@otiliatibljas2814 Follow this video and you should have success. Make sure the beans are separated from the hulls, make sure the temperature is warm enough when you start the tempeh. Make sure the beans are not too wet when you start to make the tempeh. I do not use a hot water bath, I use a heat matt with a thermostat. Good luck!

[@andrews.506]

Thanks for the information!! Appreciate all you do Doc!

[@KJSvitko]

Sustainability is key.

[@waitasecond...]

Very informative. Like this.

[@dogonsister]

I limit my plant based meat intake because it doesn't allow me to check off anything from the Daily Dozen list. I tend to make my own using plants as a base and vital wheat gluten as a binder. At least I know I'm getting some whole foods and grains.

[@jayoldsmith7629]

Beyond meat has ...... Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Just make you own. It's not that hard and so much cheaper!

[@chimera2116]

An excellent point. I was at a vegan Vietnamese restaurant the other day and had a conversation with the owner. He said he quickly lost new customers after they realized they could make their own vegan food at home. I find most food at vegan restaurants to not be as healthy as what I make at home. Most of them go out of business too despite the increasing numbers of vegans or at least consumption of vegan foods.

[@jayoldsmith7629]

@@chimera2116 Yes I agree. There is a vegan place neat me in the UK that serves fried Mars Bars in Batter! There is a gap in the market for healthy oil and salt free vegan fast food.

[@chimera2116]

@@jayoldsmith7629 I've noticed the same thing. Guess what..even junk food vegans can be healthy. My personal inspiration was a junk food vegan and he led a long and healthy life. He had no heart disease or cancer despite living to 94. I eat mostly healthy vegan food. I do eat a little fish and seafood. Have found my medical tests are better when I'm 90% vegan than 100%. It's not supposed to be that way but it is. Maybe the healthiest lifestyle is mostly but not completely vegan.

[@kevinishki]

Is all nutritional yeast high in choline? I think it's the only nutrient I have issues getting as much as I need

[@AskBobnFran]

Another great video! We are both in our 80's and all about healthy-aging! We have both overcome devastating life-threatening illnesses and believe in maintaining a strong body, a calm mind, & a positive outlook. We recently created our healthy-aging advice KZbin channel to inspire & help people of any age. Always learn a lot here. Thank you, Dr. G.

[@XeniaAidonopoulou]

Hey Dr Greger, I am an absolute staunch vegan of over 20 years, never going back, feeling better than ever etc etc etc!!! :) I have a question... about the "plant protein" vs "animal protein"... Did the studies that you mention use plant protein isolates measured against animal protein? I answer as I have absolutely no doubt that when eating "whole foods", plants win out over animal products every time but I wonder when it comes to meat substitutes and plant protein isolates... Could they *perhaps* be as harmful ( if all things were equal - ie saturated fat etc... ) due to lack of fibre? I think it would be a bit far fetched ( probably to say the least... ) that they would be but just wondering if you have any further info along these lines of thought... I personally am very active and so apart from daily legume consumption, also have a plant protein shake daily ( either soy or pea protein isolate... ) so i am interested in data that concerns isolated plant proteins... thanks in advance for any help and for all that you do... ♥ PS lol, now that i have finished posting ( so that I didn't lose my train of thought... ) and continued to listen to the podcast, I see that you address exactly this point!!! I will leave my question/thoughts up regardless and any further info is much appreciated...

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

Thanks for the info doc! when it come to value for money dried legumes are still the best option compared to these meat analogues, but it's still great they exist.

[@Ryansarcade9]

Love that dr g is doing podcasts now!

[@johnr5312]

I have no desire to eat meat, fake meat, dairy, or processed foods anymore. My cheats are the added oils and salt I get from restaurant food - its unavoidable if I don't want to seem overly antisocial (I'm fine with a little antisocial - haha).

[@AurelienCarnoy]

What about coconut trans fat? As bad? Bad? Answer 12:10

[@citizenavatar]

Greatly appreciated

[@ritas6972]

I have a tofu ham recipe that is yummy and easy and healthier than the fake meats.(Not as healthy as beans though) Actually it is from "It doesn't Taste Like Chicken" Blog. I just have a few hacks that make it faster. I make it every week as it gets eaten quickly here.

[@vascoamaralgrilo]

Thanks!

[@1922mistyblue]

You Rock!!! 💫💫💫💫

[@ladymuck2]

You mention quorn quite a lot but can you check how much of it has egg white in it. I know I was going to buy a bag of the pieces until I noticed egg in the ingredients.

[@oldgeezer4778]

People are unsustainable at the cost of this sustainable stuff!!!!

[@thawiseninja1559]

Plantcast

[@ToddSloanIAAN]

Mugcast. His looks are too monte python.

[@andrews.506]

Number One Nutrition podcast/KZbin on the GL0BE!

[@agent7641]

Everyone is moving away from all processed food has been moving forward for real food and meat. Chemical and all engineered food and processed foods you can keep!

[@Fearzero]

Unsustainable so eat beans for protein.

[@anarchy7741]

Animals are not food.

[@danm1637]

@@Fearzero I

[@proudchristian77]

Gosh people's ! 🙄 chickens might want to be food , 🐤 but cow's not so much , 🐄 🐃 they love & love the ones they create, they kiss them & play with them, like puppy dog's, warm your heart to watch them, unless u eat them , to each his own u know! 🥦🐤

[@tonynes3577]

I don't think he will ever get hired as a radio announcer. Great info; I'm already a meatless burger eater and budding vegan due to Dr Greger. THANKS!

[@susanshea4679]

wow! i really love his animated talk and slow then faster pace. i think he's a great speaker!

[@ellistarceansa8182]

Please get a better microphone.

[@mikedonnarumma5337]

just don't eat anything processed, vegan or not

[@anarchy7741]

Not even processed water

[@RonnieMinh]

There is no excuse for putting junk into your body, and artificial anything is junk.

[@ToddSloanIAAN]

Artifacial meat

[@jonnenne]

What is the definition of artificial here? Many meat substitutes are just patties that one could mix at home. Your bullshit stance just hinders people moving away from meat.

[@tamcon72]

Many analogues are made from whole plants and contain beneficial compounds while limiting saturated fat and sodium and eliminating cholesterol and food- borne pathogens(E. Coli, Trichina, Salmonella, etc.). They just use manufacturing processes beyond the abilities of a home kitchen. I'm a trained cook who experiments with making analogues at home at great cost of time, equipment wear and tear, and utilities, so I'm speaking with my professional hat on rather than my vegan eater hat on.

[@andrews.506]

Nobody studies Nutrition like the Doc... Let's just learn how to navigate the knowledge being presented! ;-D

[@andrews.506]

@@ToddSloanIAAN Artifacial ? Are you speaking of plant based meat or a synthetic meat? Big difference as far as I know... Check with the Doc first though! ;]

[@konsciousness2475]

compared to what....haha brilliant.

[@andymullarx6365]

Well eating fish chicken turkey or even pork is already a compromise as cattle require so much space and feed and labor to process into a food product. So if more people opt for fish and poultry as their meat sources and reduce or eliminate beef for instance it would seem to make a big difference and if enough of us make those choices on our own we might not have to eliminate it for a minority of consumers that won't give up or reduce their red meat intake. Lab meat no thanks, I'd sooner eat a natural substitute and I have.

[@vegahimsa3057]

Vegan is win win win. Anything else are vacuous excuses.

[@RonnieMinh]

You fail to mention the big problem with artificial burgers. They have to be cooked to be eaten, most often they will be cooked in some kind of nasty. grease or oil. Just stick with Nature.

[@pumasheen]

You missed the point of the video. Don’t let the perfect become the enemy of the good. Some people need to get to a whole food plant based diet gradually, not overnight.

[@jonnenne]

Nah, they don't need to be cooked in oil

[@jonnenne]

@@pumasheen they don't care about the planet. They care about feeling superior to others.

[@XeniaAidonopoulou]

oh no, not the "cooked food is toxic" police...

[@tamcon72]

Please don't promote a raw foods diet, from which you may be enjoying abundant health benefits[I used to be a raw foodist myself] but which also has no scientific proofs to corroborate it, to the average reader of these comments. Your opinion about your choice of a plant-based diet is valid but not generally so, as it is not feasible or sustainable to the average person reading these comments.

[@crism3lo]

you know what's even better? quit eating processed fake foods. It' s not like people NEED burgers. The way this guy talks is hard to follow.