NVidia's RTX 4070 Super... The K.O to AMD?

[@techyescity]

Pretty late launch in australia. Its midnight here. Going to get some zzzz. Enjoy the video!

[@TekTherapy]

Night Brother!

[@IvanOtac]

I got MSI 4070TI TrioX, 2 months old with written warranty for 650 euros(new one is 1000 euros), that was 4 months ago. I had to check the web site every 15mins untill I got the deal.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Two Tech YES videos in a day!? What a treat!

[@TekTherapy]

Agreed!

[@techyescity]

Yeah lots on this month. Under the pump.

[@mitchellgould7405]

Hey Bryan. In your footage, the 7800xt seems much lower quality (2:00m & 8:08m). Is this a capture/ compression related issue or actual real world results? Thanks

[@MarkHallG]

The cache is the biggest difference really, as long as you can keep the cache misses lower the performance increases and data starvation reduces which is bound to happen with a 192bit memory interface.

[@Leeki85]

Bus width is irrelevant. There are older GPUs with 256bit or wider and they have less than 20% of RTX 4070 Super performance. Memory bandwidth is all that matters. Cache is important since, shaders usually do heavy calculation on small amount of data at a time. I wouldn't say cache on GPU works the same way as on CPU. It's not about cache misses since GPUs are optimized for parallel calculations and they don't predict branches, but rather work on a steady stream of data. Cache is used to mitigate high latency of GDDR memory. In productivity software RTX 4070 Super gets nearly the same performance as 4070 Ti. 2-3% less. In such software GPU works on a constant stream of data. It seems amount of cache is the limiting factor there. In other words cache can't be filled fast enough to saturate RTX 4070 Ti CUDA cores. Perhaps memory bandwidth is not enough. This is why RTX 4070 Ti Super is getting only minor increase in CUDA cores, but will have higher bandwidth (along with 256bit bus). I would say that in the future gap between RTX 4070 and 4070 Super will be even larger in games. There will be increasingly complex shaders and post-process effects that will further utilize larger cache.

[@MMBaconslice]

I love that you include undervolt stats in your benchmark; TechYes knows what's up.

[@clansome]

Just checking pricing in UK and the 4070 and 4070 Super are only about £20 difference. 7800XT is about £50-£60 cheaper. imo I wouldn't bother with the extra savings and go straight for the 4070 Super, not that I would go for any any of these cards.

[@DynamoNED]

Hey, embargo's up, and we get some Tech YES Analysis! Awesome!

[@techyescity]

More to come!

[@Techspin]

Nice review on the 4070 Super! Wow, so many benchmarks! 😎 Love it

[@techyescity]

Glad you enjoyed it brother!

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@techyescity You just got techspun!

[@emersonrhodes2877]

Thank you for a fair assessment of the GPU.

[@Xilent1]

Tech Yes is the only outlet that I've seen mention the L2 Cache and pointing out what game might be benefiting from it.

[@patsk8872]

The 12GB makes me nervous. Hmm. By the way, what's happening on the gameplay footage for your AMD card here? Was it recompressed and that's why it looks so bad in the video?

[@tilapiadave3234]

Wait for the next AMD AWESOME release ,, RX 6500 xt with 24GB vram ,, no need to be nervous ,,,,, LMAO

[@christophervanzetta]

@@tilapiadave3234Poor performance card with lots of VRAM. Such a waste of money 😂

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@christophervanzetta I hear they go much faster when you live in mummy's basement :) LMAO

[@blakeandcamp]

12 GB is more than fine. People gotta stop overreacting about VRAM.

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@blakeandcamp that doesn't fit the AMD agenda and there tribe of ,,,,,,, hmmm

[@user-ll4wu3kb2m]

Hey mate great video , do you think it’s worth picking up a 4080 here in Australia as they seem to be dropping in price ready for the supers

[@Dtrain011]

Honest question here and would love some more knowledgeable input on my current hang up. I had to return my 7800xt and was trying to decide between getting another one or a 4070 (if the price drops to around 500) or spending the extra on the 4070 super for my gaming,blender and video editing needs

[@paulburkey2]

Hey Bryan, I think you should have included the RX6800 XT as well for that price performance on the used gear, I just picked one up on eBay for $280 used the power color red devil not only does this card like to undervolt it also overclocks higher when undervolted

[@hellopsp180]

I really like the undervolt that you did it Drops the Wattage by 56 Watts insane ! Do you have any plans to do a review on GPUs for video editing on Davinichi resolve ?

[@hockeymaster7819]

what's up with the insane quality differences between the card in Alan wake two I was watching some other reviews and the 7800 XT looks fine but in this review the quality looks really bad any thing to explain that?

[@maxd5007]

Pricing for these cards in Australia is just crazy. Literally just stick a finger in the wind and that's the price.

[@Apeeksiht]

same here in India. i guess i need exclude usa reviewers because their price never reflects in other parts of the world. 😂

[@ajsludge]

More like stick your middle finger up at Australians, that’s your price.

[@nathanpurss4582]

Would've been nice to see 7900XT also included since in Australia there are some partner cards that are cheaper than the 4070S

[@ProfShikari]

I can’t wait for the 4070Ti Super :D hopefully the pricing won’t be horrendous here in the UK

[@Mopantsu]

Yeah I am thinking of splurging out on a 4070 Ti Super here in the UK myself. Not that my current 6700XT is bad or anything but I really want a card that can do 4K on reasonable settings at 60 fps and run 1440p on ultra everything all day without a sweat. DLSS really seems to make all the difference as well as some productivity advantages over AMD. My only gripes with Nvidia is their ugly driver interface, power connector and of course price.

[@po1odo1o]

It totally will be though and demand will outstrip supply. There's no downward movement on the basic 4070 or ti prices as yet. Wouldn't be surprised to see the ti super nearer £900 than £800 especially as it's probably only going to be single digit % slower than 4080. Honestly, UK pricing mostly sucks for new.

[@ProfShikari]

@@po1odo1o there is no movement on the 4070Ti because they have now removed it and the Ti Super has taken its place. I know the 4070Ti Super is going to be horrendously priced…… it was just wishful thinking 🤣

[@ProfShikari]

@@po1odo1o P.S. I hate living in the UK when it comes to component costs lol I don’t think the £759 MSRP will hold… unless you’re bloody lucky

[@ProfShikari]

@@Mopantsu I would love a 4070Ti Super, mainly because this is going to be my very first PC build, I have an ACER Nitro 5 laptop at the moment which I have used for the last 4 years, the 1660Ti in it is getting outdated now and the problem with laptops is there is no upgrade path, I would rather have something I can build upon over the years.

[@kr00tman]

Thank you for this review, the 4070 super looks nice, and is nice that nvidia finally adjusted its price point...better late then never. Amd needs to lower the 7800xt to 450-maybe 475 or theres no point to buying it over this or even the 4070, if you are willing to buy used (at least here in america, not sure what prices are like over there) but the 3080ti is pretty attractive at 550ish if you can get it for that and a 3080 if you can find it at 450ish. But prices are jumping in the USA pretty fast thanks to a resurgence in crypto mining, I wouldn't panic or anything but I think this month is the month to buy a new or used card when the super series pushes down prices.

[@Bckner]

Theres a guy near me selling a FTW3 3080 10gb for 400

[@kr00tman]

usd, thats very solid in this current market@@Bckner

[@afos88]

Have you tried undervolt targeting 900mV and lower the clocks until its stable? I ran my cards 10 series to 30 series at about 900mV (or under if stable) and 1000mV sounds a bit too high.

[@kaisersolo76]

Hi Bryan, What were you're 7800 xt undervolt settings?

[@AssassinKID]

The 4070 Super pricing in Australia is really depressing, $80 less than the cheapest 4070Ti's, may just buy those instead of 4070 Super

[@smokeclouds8]

Does the founders edition have a silent mode like other 4070 super brands?

[@Joric78]

I could only find wholesale prices for the 4070 Super today, but it was only $54ex AUD more than the 4070 of the same model (INNO3D nVidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin X2 OC White, in stock in Sydney).

[@Willbme4EVA]

Seems like every time I click refresh there is a new Tech Yes City upload. Thanks for all the hard work, you are cranking out content like its cool. Very much appreciated.

[@MrDfromjersey]

I want to get this card. I ha d a Ryzen 5 processor should I get a 7? (New to PC built first one this fall)

[@vidmantaspletkus1999]

I'm not sure if you see this, but i want to ask about the car that you now drive (i believie its a ford focus). I will be buying a car in the furute and i would be glad if you could share with me or make a video about the focus ownership. As always, great videos, take care!

[@Ragnar0321]

Hey guys i had a question I have never bought an FE card before i always buy EVGA and Asus cards. For the first time am considering an FE card is there any performance differences between AIB and FE? I currently have two cards coming the asus strix white edition 4080 super and the FE card bought directly from nvidia. I am only keeping one I don’t care about looks i like both cards i care about performance is the strix worth the extra $300? Thanks

[@kuyache2]

We have proven here that when AMD competes, Nvidia reacts and fights back somehow. The 4070Super is evidently a counter over 7800xt's price/performance value. If Intel can enter this segment, consumers might get more performance for their money. I also foresee the same with 4070TiSuper and 4080Super but those cards out of reach and is just too much for majority of pc gamers. We need these companies duking it out in the 150 to 250 segment fighting tooth and nail over supremacy and top steam gpu hardware survey... Bring back the value of the GTX10 series, a golden era for pc gpu...

[@walllec]

AMD fanboys not welcomed here, Nvidia has no competition. You cant turn on dlss at amd, you cant turn on ray tracing. rtx 3060 destroys 7800xt in alan wake ray traced.

[@ecoterrorist1402]

4070 super £579 7800XT £473.47 that's about 22% more cost

[@HuntaKiller91]

​@@walllecu stupid 😂 I can play alanwake 2 with my 6700xt just slap in LSFG then it can do 100fps Got rizz old man?

[@sravans149]

Ah yes , the avg NVIDIA fan boy 4070 is worse than a 7800XT by 5-10% expect on RT 4070 super is about 8-12% better than 7800XT except in RT But pricing in my region 4070 - 510$ for inno 3d , 550$ for gigabyte wind force 7800XT - 500$ for the pulse and 560$ for the nitro 4070 super - not out yet but official prices starts at 630$ but I expect it to be no less than 660$ for aftermarket AIBs TLDR 7800XT - more VFM on 4k NVIDIA for 1440p Speed vs bandwidth

[@xingbairong]

@@walllec Yeah and as we all know absolutely everyone on the planet plays only ray traced games, oh wait, no they don't. Porbably 85% of gamers don't use RT and most don't even care for it. Dude you literally vomitted on your keyboard. Exactly because Nvidia continues to make crap that's specifically for their cards and not even for all their cards, but the newest gen(dlss latest iteration), is the reason why people shouldn't buy them. Make them develop their crap like AMD does, where everyone can use it and not just the newest gen. You are the literal definition of fanboy.

[@Aceomron]

Is this worth the upgrade from 2070 super 8GB? Playing at 1440p 144hz usually Or should I wait for 4080 super? (2x price )

[@juancarloscajadiaz1247]

have u considered 7800XT?

[@afiq358]

Get the 4070 ti super instead

[@dagnisnierlins188]

if you can afford and your cpu is fast enough for 4080 super, wait for it.

[@Aceomron]

Well i play just a few games cause I don't have much time now cause of my job. Some Battlefield and Diablo 4. But I want to get Baldrus Gate 3. I have a 5800x on a x570 and 32 ddr4 3600.

[@prrish]

​@@juancarloscajadiaz1247 From an ex RX 7800 XT user, it sucks. Get the 4070 Super for 1440p.

[@eddyguerdo2488]

In my country the 7900 XT with 20GB VRAM is just 50 EUR more expensive than the 4070 Super. A comparision with this card instead of the 7800 XT makes more sense. I also think that AMD will reduce prices in the upcoming days, so a comparison with the 7900 XT makes even more sense. I think if you don't care about ray tracing (raterization is also good) the 7900 XT is the better choice.

[@groenevinger3893]

I think due to DLSS Nvidia will be more future proof

[@syed395]

Hi TechYesCity, amd ryzen 5 7600 msi pro a620m -e motherboard gskill ripjaws 16*2 ddr5 5600mhz crucial p2 1 tb 3d nand nvme pcle m.2 ssd upto 2400mn/s rtx 4070 crosair cv750 750watt 80plus bronze smps ant esports ice - 170TG (ATX mid tower cabinet) deepcooler ak 400 cooler can you please review all the listed below and tell if this custom build is future proof and has no botlleneck for gaming ? is this build good optimised ? if not can you please suggest a good prcessor for rtx 4070 without bottleneck?

[@MEMo21bob]

I have almost the exact same components, anyway I suggest you take better motherboard for cpu overclocking

[@davefroman4700]

Considering the fact that the 4070ti is still a $1200 card where I live? These may as well be made of un-obtainium.

[@Pieteros21]

what do you think about 7900GRE at 635usd ?

[@jamesdarnel]

Thanks for the review

[@christophermullins7163]

I am starting the TYC hustle. I already have around 100 parts like ram CPU fans and towers.. I have been addicted to looking at Facebook marketplace for a long time so I figure I may as well put it to work and make some cash. My first product is a full turn key sim rig with g920 and 144hz monitor. Hopefully I star strong enough to get back out there and buy more lots!

[@d00mscss96]

Tech city’s 1% lows testing seem more thorough - if i’m looking for the smoothest frame times I believe the 4070 super beats the 7800 xt ?

[@minimumoftwo99]

love your reviews man - thank you!

[@dennisbradley5620]

Will have to wait to see where it settles but at my go to supplier here in Australia, the 4070 S has released very close in price to the 4070 ti, actually making the 4070 ti more attractive. At this supplier a cheap 4070 is about 900 bucks. A cheap brand 4070 S is 1100, and a cheap 4070ti is 1150. So it hasnt priced well so far. Here lately the 4070 ti has come down in price and the 4070 hasnt moved at all. 900 Aussie bucks is 600 USD. Maybe they intend to phase out the 4070 ti?

[@OverThereJord]

Is this worth the upgrade from the 3080 FE 10GB? Playing at 1440p usually

[@MarkHallG]

15% performance increase, not enough to justify an upgrade I'd say.

[@Emptrix]

I'd wait for the 5070 which should be 1 year away. That'll be a significant upgrade for the 3080 FE.

[@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX]

At least it should be the 4070Ti Super to see an actual difference imo.

[@ehenningsen]

4070TI Super, 4080 Super or 5000 series for you

[@christophervanzetta]

I’m waiting on the 5000 series to upgrade from my 10GB 3080 FTW ULTRA. I might even keep it and put it in a case as a showpiece

[@Letard710]

Same thing in nz. About 200 to 300nzd more for the super card. Definitely not worth it. Brought a 4070 during boxing day sales . And two days later found out about the pending super versions. After finding the price difference I'm still very happy .

[@TheHalo14aus]

Bought one of these today, upgrading from a 3070. Cyberpunk needs to be played in all its graphical glory.

[@TekTherapy]

This is just SUPER 😅

[@EmilePesky-n1v]

I passed a comment on a video a few weeks back that amd had to drop the 7800xt substantially.. some replied that i was wrong... Well, look now? If the 4070 super stays around 600 then the 7800(fake xt) needs to be 450, just like steve from HUB just said.. i defer to his greater knowledge.

[@renzl2337]

Got a 4070 for $650 CAD used 4 months old. The 4070 Super cost $819 CAD plus 12% tax = $920 CAD. $270 CAD difference there.

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

does this fit in a pcie4? or just with pcie5? I know the bandwidth is not limited for pcie4 but I mean does if physically fit?

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Yes, standardized slot.

[@pizzadude007]

All PCI express versions are retro compatible, meaning the physical slots are the same. The only difference they have with each other is the bandwidth.

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

@@pizzadude007 Great! cheers

[@edwardelric8966]

is this like total power draw or gpu draw only ?

[@techyescity]

total system power draw for the power numbers.

[@Jeremy-WC]

yeah where you are in the world matter for sure, In Canada cheapest 7800xt $670, 4070 $735 and 4070 super is $810 pre tax. Which means we get the US MSRP but $600 for the best 1440p card feels $100 to much. Probably if it was a 16gb card at $600 would be enough as it would give me confidence of it being a 3-5 year card instead of it being a 2. At least its a step in the right direction but I feel this refresh is only good because It will force the next gen down a bit. If AMD releases 4070 super performance for $450 and close to 7900XTX for $600 in the next 6-8 months then NVIDIA will have to release a 5070 for $650 that is close to the 4080.

[@Chris-tx9ou]

would like to have seen this against the 4060 Ti 12 GB to see if its just a tweeked version

[@fuzzymuppet1990]

I heard they're lowering 4070 non supers to 550, def not worth saving 50 bucks over the super ... $450-500 would be a much better price. Right between the 4060ti and the 4070 super. I think that a 4070 non super for that price would be great for a +1 budget gamer. Especially coming from a high 10-20 series card or a low tier 30 series card. This is nvidia were talking about though ....

[@ecoterrorist1402]

4070 super £579 7800XT £473.47 that's about 22% more cost

[@prrish]

And you sacrifice DLSS, CUDA, Recording/streaming (NVENC is still superior), ray tracing, support for DX9-DX11 and OpenGL titles (Some older games are obsolete on AMD), Reflex, Ansel Coming from an ex RX 7800 XT Nitro+ user (waiting for the 4070s to release), AMD sucks.

[@ecoterrorist1402]

@@prrish can i ask why amd sucks, did they not log ago give everyone a performance boost, nvdia only works on their 4000's, will they stick two fingers up at the 4000 series when the 5000 get released, out of the three main card team red, blue and green who offers the best for their customer.

[@tilapiadave3234]

Move countries

[@Big_Yin]

Jensen bootlicker confirmed ​@@prrish

[@christophervanzetta]

@@ecoterrorist1402Because AMD cuts off driver support earlier than nvidia does. They also only have one person doing the BIOS updates on their motherboards 😂

[@HuntaKiller91]

Just make 7800xt officially sell for $479 then it will be ez purchase

[@landoishisname]

I'm a little mad, been looking at 4070 for AU$900 and 7800XT for AU$830 for months now, thought the supers might improve prices of the market a little but looks like it'll just slot above these cards instead edit: in Australia now that the product has dropped you can get a 4070 ti for the same price as a 4070 super and it's a better card

[@wolffangalchemist]

I imagine if comparing to used market prices 6900/6950xt is a great used market value still if you can get it for sub $600 usd still, i got my 6950 xt for $500 usd shipped and it pretty well matches or exceeds the 4070 supers performace in most games from the other reviews i looked at if you don't use raytracing. Would be nice to see a good head to head with some overclocking.

[@xDAKPRODUCTIONSx]

The 4070 super existing will be really good for the GPU market

[@justinpatterson5291]

I've seen some improvement from RT tech. But, not enough to be wowed into buying cards that do it well. It's still too much of a performance hit.

[@MrLehi99]

I am waiting on the 5000 series cards to see how much RT improves, but I expect to be waiting on those reviews until November at the earliest, or possibly May at the latest.

[@GaahlDukat]

I wont be able to afford these cards for quite some time, so, i'll be buying my personal fav K.O., the RX 6750 xt...thoughts?

[@inspector__x]

i brian in my coutry 4070 is 485€ and 4070 super is 565€ i think 4070 maybe better deal same vram plus 20w less power i play warzone and destiny 2, what you think

[@Angmar3]

A better release than the 4070 was, but still nothing to convince me to upgrade from my 6700xt. Guess I'll wait for the next gen

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

6700s still sell well atm though

[@Angmar3]

@iikatinggangsengii2471 yeah they're a good value purchase IMO

[@Mbenzolovers]

I have 2080 now is 4070 super ok to upgrade? 1440p

[@ZackSNetwork]

No the 4070 Super is equivalent to a 3080ti in non memory bandwidth situations. Not a big enough leap.

[@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX]

No, go for the 4070Ti Super or just stick to the 2080 a while longer

[@Mbenzolovers]

@@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX thx guys

[@christophervanzetta]

I know it’s an old game but please do some benchmarks for RDR2. Probably the most graphically intensive game I still haven’t beat since I’m waiting on maxing it out

[@Xenon_001]

4080 super blows the 7900 XTX out of the water all while being around the same price. No reason to go for amd's flagship anymore. I expect the super to be the new 7900 XTX if you can't afford a 4090, as the 4080 super will be the second best gpu you can buy.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Facts AMD’s only advantage is more vram and 24gbs is overkill for gaming.

[@mchonkler7225]

If by blows out of the water you mean ~5% faster at $100 more than ya, I guess. TBH this entire generation from both companies is mediocre at best.

[@ehenningsen]

It's 5% faster at raster, but massively faster at raytracing. Let's be real. All the new titles have RT now. Plus, it has significantly better VR and streaming performance.

[@tomtomkowski7653]

8:10 - is this a production problem or AMD card recording is really so ugly when compared to Nvidia?

[@robandtyria9094]

lol ty brian i wasthinking of upgrading my 1060 but i dont play anything to need it ty sir

[@unitybeing777]

AVERAGE, EXPENSIVE, pretty, wow, good advices. Nowadays u rather buy something worth reselling if shtf when 'they' hit us. So buy something that devalues slowly. Love your videos.

[@gunslinga7077]

I don’t think there gonna be easy to find at msrp for awhile, but when they are $600 bucks it’s definitely a KO

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

3:30 GOTDAMN! Look at that power draw on the 7800XT. I cant believe AMD Fanboys complain about Power Draw when their GPU draws almost 100 more Watts for Similar Performance. The 14900k vs 7800X3D is not even that bad compared to this. LOL

[@kane6193]

Its crazy how AMD is more power efficient with the CPU's but when it comes to GPU's they are off the mark. I'm wondering if they can get the MCM down for the GPU's if that will adjust the power efficiency.........

[@zdspider6778]

Still 12GB, still 192-bit. Pass.

[@myrtlekenazjanairo9411]

I don't even use ray tracing despite having an rtx card. and 7800xt is $100 cheaper than the non super rtx 4070 here in my country. and btw, rtx 4070 starts at $680 here.

[@Out2GetYaWorldAKAMcfly]

6am in Vancouver Canada 😂

[@hotsecksi]

The Curtains for some Tech yes Luv'in crack-a-lackin'

[@techwandoUS]

I like the HOF sweatshirt in the thumbnail 💲

[@edgarro2653]

I saw the prices of the 4070s/4070ti s and 4080s in my country, it's a joke tbh. 4080s is 1:1 with current 4080, 4070ti s is about 1000$ (100$ less than 4080 s) and 4070s costs 50$ than current 4070ti. Such a great deal, congratz nvidia.

[@mikymouse7525]

Nvidia sells performance. AMD sells RAM Nvidia sells DLSS AMD sells RAM Nvidia sells ray tracing AMD sells RAM Must be a very good business to sell RAM, even though AMD is not a RAM manufacturer.

[@EastAngliaUK]

when around £500 i will buy one prob wait guess my 3060 ti will do for now.

[@poiares6878]

I still say I would have preferred it to have continued with the same performance as the 4070 and increased from 12 to 16GB VRAM. I refuse to buy 700€ GPU with only 12GBVRAM

[@JayzBeerz]

Why would anyone but this now when the 4070 ti super and 4080 super are still gonna come out.

[@delatroy]

Coming from a 1080ti, not really any games worth buying a new card for imo

[@OZWizard]

I quit trying to stay up with these new graphics cards, I just sold my RTX 4070 ti and my RX 7900 XTX and downgraded to a 50 dollars RX 580 and a 90 dollar Vega 64 and went back to 1080p Gaming and perfectly happy with the performance. The RX 580 and Vega 64 play just about every game I typically play with no issues at all. I also went back to Windows 10.

[@roythunderplump]

Am sure there is over a lifetime of great PC games that are free, cheap from the past 20 years. That even the most experienced PC gamers have not tried and will enjoy.

[@boabs]

good vid man check out these fans hopefully you can buy them in oz these would be very good for you and pcs I wired them up super impressed fro the money,

[@brutalbobbygump]

I love the channel love the content

[@clem9808]

As a 4070 owner I'm feeling a bit of jealousy for the first time ever. Is this how 3090 ti buyers felt when 4090 was released or is it just me?

[@skywalker1991]

Rx7800xt holding realy well for $100 less , i know there are lots of nvidia fanboys here will say nvidia is better and asking amd to lower prices . 4070 series are way overpriced still for only 12 gb vrams , thats it. Defend nvidia all you want but its truth 4070 12 gb will pose problems going forward . Now if nvidia sold rtx4070 ti super 16 gb for $650 then its K.O. , nvidia is just charging way to much atm , no from me.

[@Machistmo]

this aged like milk in the sun. These cards are not selling. They are dumping all their crap onto the market right now and even scalpers dont want this go round. The 4080 maybe

[@letitiabeausoleil4025]

Never going the buy an Nvidia card again. Never forget.

[@racoonchief]

Never buy AMD GPU even in a bad dream.

[@basshead.]

Never say never.

[@StyleshStorm]

I just built a new rig with a PC builder from Connecticut and the RTX 4070 is what we went with from ASUS slightly overclocked by 10% out of the box. Is this good enough for now?

[@SireDragonChester]

Imo the whole RTX 4xxx and new super are scam. Your paying premier price, all GPUs are cut down version, except the 4090. Nvidia knows this and ppl keep buying there crap. The super are just excuse for Nvidia keep dominance on gpu market and make more $$$$ I’d rather buy 3080ti/3090/ti. Unfortunately the prices here Canada are still insane. I was looking get 6900xt or 6950xt, to replace my old GTX 1080ti, they like $1600 Canadian atm, wtf. And 3080ti/3090 are $3000+ for 3090, and $2500+ candies for 3080ti.

[@its1one]

I think the thumbnail says it all

[@john1956c]

At 1:15 you say on that title (Alan Wake 2 1080P) that "..this is where 4070 Super does manage to be the victor on the charts here, especially over the RX 7800XT..". However, the chart shows them virtually even. I assume that was just a wee mistake 😄

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

they dont even release 50 series

[@Skobeloff...]

"Going onto Starfield" but why...

[@killerindustries49]

Dang I didn't expect this generation to have a super series now I'm stuck with a 4070 non super T.T

[@atnfn]

Me too, around june last year everyone was saying there is no chance there will be any super cards. So I thought I might as well buy a 4070 we're probably not getting anything better when it comes to price to performance. People were even doubting AMD was gonna release any 7800XT. Then AMD released the 7800XT and it destroyed the 4070 in non ray traced games. And now the 4070 Super destroys both overall... for roughly the same money. There is never a good time to buy a GPU. Next fall nVidia might release the 5070 that might make the people that buy the 4070 super regret their purchase.

[@jebreggie4225]

The more you buy the more you FOMO

[@ehenningsen]

You also got another half year of use out of it. Nobody ever knows if a Super refresh will happen or not. So why wait? You lose out on more waiting than you do getting the best option at the time.

[@killerindustries49]

@@ehenningsen agreed I upgraded from my 2080 to the 4070 so I'm still enjoying a hefty bump in performance in 1440p

[@carter7894]

I have a i5 12400f and I'm looking at getting either the rx 7800 xt or the rtx 4070 super. What cpu should I upgrade to? Or will the I5 be able to keep up with these gpus for now? I'm looking to play at 1440p

[@JustMe-jj6lm]

IMO 58003d Or 7600 NON x. 1440p is quite gpu bound but of course not always. About the gpu super sound better but AMD will (not 100% of course) will lower the price .

[@carter7894]

@@JustMe-jj6lm Would you recommend anything from intel? Id prefer not to switch motherboards if I don't have to. Noticing now the i5 was dumb and should've waited for the r5 7600

[@JustMe-jj6lm]

@@carter7894 Intel Core i5-13400F i heard is a good one. Sorry but i do not know intel that well. No idea if 12400f and 13400f is on the same socket either :D.

[@jebreggie4225]

you could buy a 12th gen i7 or get a 13th gen i5 since they're both on the same socket. probably check for motherboard compatibility

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@JustMe-jj6lm 5800X3D ,, THE single MOST overhyped over-rated OVER priced cpu of all time

[@arokh72]

As usual, we Aussies have to just bend over and take it, when it comes to pricing.

[@themachine4008]

i bought the 4070 in December and now i am regretting it. Now i need to overclock my 4070 to see how close i can get. I guess life is full of bad decisions.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Why can’t you return the 4070?

[@Willbme4EVA]

I would not really put a full hearted attempt into overclocking the 4070 to the levels of a 4070ti Super. The die is actually 4080 silicon. It would probably become unstable, therefore making you feel even more remorse.

[@Frozoken]

​@@Willbme4EVAwhat are u talking about with the 4070S being 4080 silicon? It's ad104 that is actually cut down, unlike the 4070 ti. The 4070ti super is ad103 so technically "4080 silicon". The 4070S however isn't even as good as the 4070ti silicon wise.

[@Frozoken]

Won't be possible to match the super but overclock it anyway, especially the memory. Everything from the 40 series that is the 4070ti or under needs a vram OC to mitigate inconsistent performance game to game due to the underspecced bandwidth on them stock.

[@Willbme4EVA]

@@Frozoken LOL you just said exactly what I did. Read my comment once again

[@FUNHOUSEGuymer]

the graphics on Nvidia looks way better than AMD, I don't know if you guys notice that?

[@jameswubbolt7787]

This is the cards they should have in the first place.

[@petercruz1993]

I hope amd keeps pressure on nvidia. Imagine a world with cpu and GPU monopolies… it would’ve made the mining and AI surges basically full on scams