Oasis Big Problem With NIRVANA

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[@commandercaleb_]

W

[@JustLikeHeaven77]

Nearvana?

[@korryjepperson4013]

Personally I think oasis is a better band than Nirvana

[@robdryan]

Pretty sure the title was a sarcastic jab at how the media was putting out articles on how Kurt was depressed, dark and brooding all the time.

[@hetnieuwenormaal]

And he sure proved them wrong

[@briankennedy1192]

Exactly lad. Plain examples of how British and American sarcasm or dark humour doesn't always translate.

[@joen8529]

@@hetnieuwenormaal Considering Courtney did it, no he didn’t.

[@jessewallace666]

@@joen8529 someone had to be the Courtney killed Kurt guy….😂

[@hetnieuwenormaal]

@@joen8529 I guess Yoko broke up the Beatles too eh?

[@EngineerOfVaul]

We needed both. Kurt's words made us feel heard and understood. Noel's words gave us hope and helped us realize we've got a long way to go. I love them both immensely.

[@radidov5333]

agreed, like yin and yang ..we had them both with Gallagher and Cobain

[@위니-g6y]

Well said !

[@dreal500]

Exactly!

[@laiooliveirabrum5188]

Perfect!

[@oakleyorbit]

I actually hated Kurt for all that he did but this comment changed my outlook, well done mate I see the importance!

[@TokiWartooth14]

It was a joke title and the song is more or less about love. And it was never a hit, it was a b side.

[@deafphantom865]

A joke that didnt age well

[@shea8294]

He didn’t know Courtney would take him literally

[@KPac1234]

glamorizing suicide was done throughout the in utero record, they’re a pop rock group at this point doing that smh

[@jurgisvalancauskas4006]

You talk like Kurt didn't kill himself. Read his diaries (they are published). He was on the way to suicide all the time from his teenage years to his eventual death. He was suicidal

[@SWOLDER]

That song is not about love …..

[@gavnoroblivious7931]

Kurt was right. Noel is right Both beautiful

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

good take

[@user-xm3wd8tz6d]

This was my thought as well and I didn’t know he thought this at the time.

[@Naeshabby]

Kurt was a brooding teenage girl

[@jeffreyh.1176]

Oasis was meaningless pop drivel, slowly down the hall faster than a cannonball.

[@gavnoroblivious7931]

@@jeffreyh.1176 not according to the 5million fans and 25million album sales. Good drivel all the same

[@adamkidson4444]

He is right there is no value in self pity at all

[@melissahelen88]

but there is value in acknowledging and understanding one's vast array of emotion

[@Kelvinack]

​@@melissahelen88Yes and Kurt Cobain, a man who shot himself after not even living for more than 30 years, perfectly exemplifies that 😂

[@hollyw1dd1s]

@@Kelvinackoh shucks he actually had problems and not a perfect life like you

[@Kelvinack]

@@hollyw1dd1s He had a complicated life (he was prone to making it worse for himself than it was) and certainly a vast array of emotions amassed through it, but shooting heroin, reclusing yourself and finally putting a shotgun in your mouth is definitely not "acknowledging and understanding one's vast array of emotion. And lastly, I would like to ask you keep my personal business (of which you have not a single small sancorn of an idea) out of your mouth, I know you internet addicts like to use it in debates but it's not doing you any favours

[@melanieminton]

What you said

[@electricmaster23]

They were both right. That’s what makes them both legendary artists.

[@SuperBroonie]

😂 yeah at least Nirvana understood dynamics and meter. Oasis songs are nearly all the same speed Which makes Noel a crap composer really he hit a formula and never detracts.

[@electricmaster23]

that's ridiculous and not at all what I was saying. "Live Forever" is one of the best songs ever written.

[@jamie8037]

​@@SuperBroonie absolute bollocks

[@matty-mm5vo]

@@SuperBroonie please shut up

[@Felis-Concolor]

@@SuperBroonieNoel is all about, “positivity maaan” yet don’t ask him to play certain songs or he’ll curse you out and threaten to murder you. Very positive.

[@Appo4]

Neither side is right nor wrong, it's creative freedom, and people can have opinions that are different from someone else

[@7stitches]

“The song title was a joke” proceeds to kill himself a year later

[@sorryimsosad]

And people be like “BUT HE SAID IT WAS A JOKE” Yeah and I’m sure we all would be totally honest about a very sad and scary feeling w a tv interviewer

[@Danielle14..6]

he didn’t kill himself Courtney did there a video showing very clear proof she hired someone to kill him it’s sad and scary how gullible people are 😩

[@RavenBlaze420]

Kurt was murdered. There is to much evidence to murder. Then again you believe the narrative's and not the facts.

[@texisthereason]

ANNNNDDDD I SWEAAARRR THAT IIIII DONTTTT HAVE. A GUNNNNNN. He bought a gun a week before he died and took the bullets with him to an airport. The driver didn't return them back to his house. Courtney's hit man Allen wrench had to buy new to kill him since they weren't there when he did the job.

[@valentinoletcher]

Bro kurt didn't suicide. He was murdered.

[@sambell1182]

Ahh yes "leave forever" my favourite Oasis song.

[@untissify]

😂

[@patmarek1222]

😅

[@samtomo69]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 LEAVEEEE FOREVERR

[@kennethlauer4735]

Ooooasis

[@alfonsoyanez4953]

“Leave forever” then “Don’t go away”

[@ye6973]

“Leave forever” and a picture of Liam to start. Great vid

[@johncollins5552]

Genius clickbait, we couldn't let it pass Could We😂

[@KROKIACK]

Like why bother making this short if they can't be bothered to make it properly?

[@stupidnicks]

The first pic is Liam 😂

[@arinthia827]

Fr how is no one else noticing that

[@skuLLface_firec0ck]

It’s Noel

[@j-xmas]

Not sure how they didn’t spot that 🙄

[@leegreene5148]

know ur potato 😆

[@AceBambam]

same thing😂

[@Skinnyfish09]

The fact Noel knew that B-Side shows he was really a fan and it inspired him to write an epic A-Side.

[@Demtows]

Nailed it.

[@zarni000]

dont know if you are aware but anybody who was even remotely involved in music would know pretty much everything of nirvana's that came out. they were that big.

[@nemesis8626]

​@@zarni000 yeah but that song didn't even come out. Only on in uteros 30th anniversary edition decades after the albums original release and Kurts death, it was due to be on the pennyroyal tea single but never did because Kurt died so it didn't get put out

[@Black-lq2pb]

@@nemesis8626 It was first released in November 1993 as the first track on The Beavis and Butt-Head Experience compilation album which peaked at number 5 on the Billboard 200

[@davidchez513]

​@@nemesis8626Wrong, it released in the Beavis and Butthead Experience on November 1993

[@Sy21124]

I don’t think I’d call that song a hit

[@timhazelwonder151]

I would

[@gummyerin]

Live forever is not a hit , its a master piece

[@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek]

​@@gummyerin😂😂

[@ricmcguigan1635]

That whole Beavis and Butthead cd was pretty good.

[@haughteyify]

Biblical

[@robmckay]

Live forever is one of the best tracks ever written !

[@pearljammer7689]

Far from it 🤣🤣🤣😜

[@The01Lawliet]

It is a great track indeed!

[@hollyw1dd1s]

Delusional

[@horrorbusiness78]

Noel does a great melodic' guitar solo but the rest of the song is dull , like singing a hymn in school - All things bright & beautiful etc

[@Graeme726]

It 100% is. ​@@pearljammer7689

[@BabyHaylien]

Both are real. Both are valid. I can see the beauty in both

[@lilhollo420]

The point of his music is to help people like him, that may be sad and hurt, feel less alone in a world where being sad is frowned apon.

[@KPac1234]

Yeah with lines like “ look on the bright side suicide” he was really trying to help people lol

[@sageantone7291]

The point is not telling people what the point is.

[@lilhollo420]

@@sageantone7291 the point is I never asked of your opinion

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

Who the hell remembers Gallagher or Kurt Kobain more? That's right...

[@lilhollo420]

@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 I only talk of valid points and that his music helps people, everyone knows the band members if there a fan and that they had wayyy more than one drummer. Stop trying to call me out on shit, I don't see you covering there music!

[@RayFromLUCKYSHADOW]

That's Liam in the beginning, not Noel. But I imagine they both felt the same. I remember when Oasis hit here in the States. They really were a breath of fresh air. Rock music had become so relentlessly downbeat, at least lyrically. Obviously for Kurt, the depression was real. I mean, he did what he did, so he clearly wasn't bullshitting. But for many, the dark lyrics were just bandwagon-jumping. Dudes who a few years prior were imitating Poison and Motley Crue were now writing songs about how much they hated themselves and how lost they were. 😂 It had gotten stale. So many of them acted embarrassed by fame, and they made a point of never appearing excited about anything. Then the Gallagher brothers came along, giving that all the two-finger salute, being cocky as hell, Liam singing proudly "I'm a rock and roll starrrr!" Oasis ruled.

[@miggypeso909]

Yeah they weren’t all that popular here. Maybe where your from but they where seen as boring Beatle wannabes for the most part.

[@_boracic_atreus_23]

This is an AI video mate.

[@AlyOops-zj2lw]

That's freedom of expression in music regardless of what opinion you might have about it. Its great that Oasis wanted to send out uplifting music for people. It's our biology, environment and influences that make us who we are. I'm not happy all the time craving happy music and messages. Sometimes I am. But other times I want to scream to release anger or cry to release sadness. Kurt had a different experience and felt abandonment as a child being kicked out of his mothers and fathers homes on numerous occasions during a recession in a small poor town even sleeping under a bridge as a teen when he had nowhere to stay. I have similar experiences in my life. So when I'm feeling a certain way it's comforting to know that there are successful people out there sharing the same raw emotions from those hard experiences and not just faking it to bend over because someone doesn't understand it. It's music man. And maybe it's not the same anymore here in North America but we used to have that freedom as any type of artist whether you're a painter, writer, musician or any other kind. It's all controlled now but it didn't used to be like that. On top of all that Kurt was bashed in the media constantly. Pretty tough to write how happy, amazing and accepting the world is when it's not true for you in your life. Art should be raw and real. It's an expression of self. If you don't feel sadness or anger at times you're a robot. I have nothing against Oasis. They've written iconic music and deserve their place in history. But we're all human. Just be you

[@alexnagy2044]

This is the coolest comment in my personal opinion. Absolutely correct in every aspects! 😊✌🏻💜

[@Mattythebassman]

Noel came from a super working class background with an abusive father. He probably had just as much the same problems as Kurt.

[@zerog1037]

He actually didn't sleep under a bridge, not tht it should take away from his music.

[@AmberleyRandall]

We needed both, the raw feelings we all go through, but a tune to lift us back up... Just helps us feel alive! Thanks guys!

[@JivecattheMagnificent]

If people feel upset or depressed and want to write about it, they can. It literally doesn't matter a single bit what Gallagher thinks.

[@c.wdervin5987]

I don’t think Kurt gave a crap what anyone thought 😂 forget the lyrics for a sec, the music is what really matters… hate myself was a rockin track!!

[@ScurvyRascal]

Hear hear! Can't stand the Gallaghers arrogance 🤮

[@nogimma]

That's the beauty of music. Freedom of expression.

[@violetscreaming]

The title was a response to all these people, reporters etc constantly asking himself how are you (like the famous t shirt he wore ironically), I don’t think he was actually expressing suicidal it’s at the time. Although in hindsight I see how that’s difficult to believe. They also had a song entitled a rape me that repeated the title many times throughout the song yet it was 100% anti rape and the band had a very hard stance against any kind of violence towards women, in fact the only rule at their shows was no groping the females. So like most thing Gallagher was sadly misinformed.

[@alexnagy2044]

His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (Imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

[@sorryimsosad]

I mean he literally killed himself and attempted before and wrote about hating himself and his life in his journals. Also would you air out your internal struggles w some random interviewer?

[@violetscreaming]

@@sorryimsosad But it’s well documented what the true meaning of that songs title was and it wasn’t literal

[@alexnagy2044]

@@violetscreaming His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

[@violetscreaming]

@@alexnagy2044 how am I misinformed? He famously wore a tshirt that said hi how are you? Even you said so, so I’m not sure how I’m misinformed?

[@sarahtourangeauartist]

Everything is okay as long as you stay true to yourself as an artist

[@karacrawford6472]

Artists are not responsible for the mental health of their fans. If their fans are depressed, they’re not going to suddenly feel happy if their favorite band starts singing about butterflies and rainbows. They’ll probably seek out different musicians at that point.

[@roxannecab]

I totally think Gallagher was right about this. Although I understand that yes, I agree Kurt cobain’s song was about self pity. That was Kurt letting out his raw emotions. I do believe Kurt was through a really hard time and it needed to be expressed. I also believe artists do have powers to create a change in fans perspectives. Both are right actually. However I can also understand Gallagher’s take on this also.

[@nightwingjonah]

I can respect his stance about not glamorizing self pity. Pretty interesting. Something I need to work on myself

[@l4rkm3ss]

I dont think gallagher was wrong for thinking how he did but he definitely diddnt understand that kurts goal was not to motivate and inspire listeners like him, actually in hindsight kurt diddnt have a goal or any ambition, he simply wanted to portray the pain and passion he felt in his heart and mind. He was a true artist not afraid to embrace the self pity and self loathing because honesty is the best clarity. He did not care to send out hopeful messages he cared to make raw, emotional, honest lyrics and music so that the people who are tortured by the same mentality can resonate and feel less alone in their sufferings. He definitely succeeded with me.

[@christopher19894]

The glorification of suicide or depression is the worst thing for suicidal and depressed people to experience tho, especially if there's no happy ending or light at the end of the tunnel within the writing, because it justifies existing in that realm indefinitely. And then, when their suicidal idol who glorifies darkness actually kills himself, it becomes a demonic enterprise on every level. It's interesting to analyze as a stable music nerd or historian who has no personal investment in the personality of Kurt-- but a lot of kids and teens were all in, and then Kurt cashed out, leaving them feeling even more empty than they did before they got sucked into the cult of his personality.

[@l4rkm3ss]

@@Aku-eg3jq me too i have respect for just grunge rock as a whole its just so raw and passionate. They were true artists🗣️

[@l4rkm3ss]

@@christopher19894 i see your point, i can agree that it can lead to consequences but i think 'glorification' is the wrong word for it. It was more acknowledgment. ofc its always good to look at the world positively but the truth is the world is not positive. There are no real happy endings, to truly feel real passion and love means that tremendous pain is up next. In the end thats just how it is. The only thing we can do is be content with that. Artists like Kurt could see that and wanted to embrace it. Not to glorify the truth but to acknowledge it and display the beauty in the cruelty. Sadly people are very impressionable but that shouldn't stop messages from being sent. Ignorance is bliss but those who want to see past that should have the right to do so. For me this was the soul thing that helped me through my depression, cant say ive gotten rid of it but ive been enlightened, ive been able to make sense of it, i dont want to live, but having music i can resonate with, knowing im not alone in how i see the world, it grounds me and it keeps me here. Cant say that for everyone but its still the case for some. Sorry for the long tangent 😭

[@banknpr3984]

Oasis don't want to die but his sound will fade away. While Nirvana want to die but his sounds have never die

[@mikenoble3126]

Kurts honesty is what set him apart. I MEAN who is this guy anyhow? Oasis is that a bar or an island? Oh my wife it's a band. Never heard of him. So yea I'm on Kurt's side not jealous guy.

[@Polyfusia]

"I Hate Myself And I Want To Die" is a JOKE title. It's a Kurtism. It's a b-side and isn't on any album and the lyrics are just amusing nonsense. "Runny nose and runny yolk Even if you have a cold still You can cough on me again I still haven't had my full fill". Gallagher is a total git for taking the title literally. I believe Kurt used to say it sarcastically when asked how he was doing. Similar to the way he'd show up at a party and demand of the host "Here we are, now entertain us!" To be funny which ended up in Smells Like Teen Spirit. Kurt was troubled but also quite funny and people continue to completely misunderstand him.

[@austinwalker2000]

​@@stephen4631🙄 don't get offended so easily

[@BlindingSun_]

It is on an album though

[@austinwalker2000]

@@stephen4631 being like he took it to far is a I'm offended type of response

[@austinwalker2000]

@@BlindingSun_ B side so bonus but yes technically on an album I'm guessing that part was a typo

[@BlindingSun_]

@@austinwalker2000 it was on the beavis and butthead album

[@clipz337]

“The song’s name is a joke” *kills himself the next year*

[@scorpiopig]

Noel Gallagher wasn't the only one that was right, so was my dad. RIP ❤️

[@ZekeBrewer]

I think that being in touch with sadness and grief is different from negativity. You can choose to be negative about literally anything: Christmas, School, Love, Work, etc. Blind positivity is foolish but someone who can feel the full range of emotions and still develop as a person is unstoppable.

[@Pamela-Honey]

Loved this, it was lovely to get to know you a bit better ❤❤

[@hishamhilal8332]

That is Liam in the picture. But yes Nirvana were too soppy and Oasis were only about the good times. They have songs about everything in life and can help you through any mood.

[@FilaMila-wc4iw]

in case of someone mentally challenged, very true

[@daveflitton381]

Gallagher is absolutely correct!!

[@DEATHWillTAKETHEPAINAWAY]

No he’s not

[@DanielRodriguez-bv5wx]

It wasn’t a hit … it was a very obscure b side … it appeared in no album … and the song is nothing about hating yourself or dying

[@BlindingSun_]

It appeared on an album in 1993

[@AnglephileSwedenGerman]

U​@@BlindingSun_its sad u had to Google that

[@ericbroggi6151]

It appeared on The Beavis and Butthead Experience album.

[@joshuagallman9922]

It was on that Beavis and Butthead album

[@nemesis8626]

​​@@BlindingSun_ not a Nirvana album it didn't, yeah beavis and butthead, how many people you think rushed to get that? 😂

[@JoHo-q8g]

Nirvana will never be matched kurt cobain changed my world in so many way kurt is an artist in so many ways you have to understand kurt didnt put messages in his songs really or try to make meaning he made harnony melody and rhythm without perfection of anything

[@yadahivazquez163]

The way he was and how humble he was and how down to earth he was plus he was a genius on the music and guitar

[@AudioReplica2023]

Both were right. Nothing wrong with using your life experiences as song writer or write a song for the masses that have nothing to do with you

[@ethangallagher1476]

Kurt’s music was more relatable, honest and angsty. I think in that way it was uplifting because people didn’t feel alone. I don’t think he had a lot of self pity that’s just how he felt in that moment when he made that song I’m guessing.

[@sonofabobo2]

When I think of positivity, Oasis is not the first band that comes to mind. They seem like quite miserable lads.

[@FilaMila-wc4iw]

However, whenever I think of misery, it's Oasis that comes first to mind

[@liamw6562]

Have you never listened to, I don’t know, there first two albums? Not a single song is about misery

[@djf817]

​@@liamw6562yeah just overrated Brit pop.

[@benedwards4495]

@@liamw6562tbf if you look at the lyrics on songs like some might say, cast no shadow and hey now they are very negative. The songs just sound positive in how they’re played

[@catrocastre8215]

Yup, great messages, but controversial dudes, always some drama.

[@ravenaome]

Live forever is my favorite song from Oasis, and Oasis has been my favorite band for a very long time. Noel definitely knew how to write songs and the way he portrayed life was beautiful.

[@LiamG903]

Noel is the best songwriter of our generation, he was right and live forever is a masterpiece

[@kidwajagstang]

1) it was meant as a joke bc Kurt was tired of everyone saying he was some depressed, gloomy person. 2) if anyone cares to actually look into it, the evidence strongly suggests he was, in fact, murdered. I used to think that the whole “Kurt was killed” crowd were delusional. But then I took a honest look into what the evidence was and I came to the conclusion that Kurt was a victim of foul play. There are just way too many pieces of evidence that don’t point to suicide as the cause of death. Most recently some info from his autopsy was leaked. Kurt apparently had a substantial gash in his leg. How did that happen! Could it have been resulting from a struggle?

[@garretttracy1839]

They said with the amount of herion and Valium in his blood (from the root beer that someone laced!) he was so high he was physically incapable of holding the shotgun up to his mouth. Plus they said they measured his arms and the length of the gun and said his arms were too short to pull the trigger holding it to his mouth he just couldn’t reach. He was definitely a victim, look up the videos of the guy who said who killed him, they found him 8 days later with his head cut off in a train yard. His apparent cause of death was being hit by the train and it killed him don’t really see how that decapitates you.

[@andrewbroughton65]

Courtney instigated it..there's a doco on KZbin by the Detective She hired when they couldn't find Kurt..He recorded all Her phone calls -unbeknownst to Her- & He examines Her lies...She should be incarcerated.

[@andrepereira744]

you're both crazy

[@denisefrontino1101]

Or being drug across somewhere to GET HIM TO the greenhouse??? Ya never know...will be thrilled to find out that particular info 🌼

[@JordanPolack-p1t]

Gash on leg could be from the backfire from the shotgun rip kurtd❤

[@megabeetlejuicer96]

It’s absolutely true, and even nowadays largely thanks to him self pity and negativity is seen as cool. Not good

[@Lafuerza_V]

Love Oasis, but the older I get, the more I kinda really don’t care for Liam and to a lesser extent Noel. Well at least how they acted when they were famous in general. They don’t relate to the depressing stuff, so they shyt all over it? Okay, some people have problems and the “be optimistic why are you even saying that sad stuff” take I’ve heard them say, comes off so vapid, shallow, disconnected etc. Telling depressed people to just be happy isn’t going to do anything for them, it’s wildly insulting. Idk, don’t wanna take simple comments this much to heart, but I just think it’s whack as all hell that that was their take at the time

[@catalinarodriguez6971]

Kurt’s honesty made nirvana legendary

[@design1of470]

Kurt wasn't serious about the song title. If I remember correctly, he wanted to call In Utero that name, and the label wasn't having it. IMO I Hate Myself... is one of my favorite Nirvana B-Sides. All that said, Live Forever is a great, great song.

[@hisenseks]

No one is serious until they are

[@Laissez-faire402]

How can you possibly say he wasn't "serious", considering how things ended? You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@design1of470]

@@Laissez-faire402 I've had a couple friends take their own lives, and none of them talked about it at all. So you just never know.

[@mike000395]

Eliciting a response, even one of disdain, is art. Cobain was a genuine Rembrandt of his time. Oasis drives on Nirvana's roads.

[@paul-dq6lk]

I would say that song has reflected my mental state at several points in my life, and tbh it didn't have a negative effect on me. It made me feel like I wasn't alone

[@MichaelRae-rp3ls]

Love oasis it cheered me up ❤

[@Wulfzz]

People really can't stand kurt cobain or his music being criticized for some reason, it's weird. It's like they think he's holy or something.

[@TheFinishedArticle]

Huge Nirvana fan but i agree, Most nirvana fans are insufferable.

[@brianj4201]

The issue is that Noel is a git. If he was actually saying something of importance it would be a different story.

[@trashcan_5450]

Maybe it’s also partly because he’s just mad that he writes shit boring songs lmaoo

[@matthewensign9683]

I've tried listening to Oasis. I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing the context or nostalgia factor...either way, I don't get the hype.

[@benjaminlewington6627]

Shit boring songs that's sold more that 70million times 🤷‍♂️

[@francisbrodie9140]

@@matthewensign9683the first 2 albums and b side album were awesome everyone in the uk listened to oasis dressed like oasis drank oasis and went to oasis gigs but the 3rd album was shit maybe they should’ve kept the bsides for that but the never released another album in the 90s and by the time they released stuff it was 2000 the scene had changed dance music was back it sucked in 99 ocs played Stirling castle to 30000 by 2000 they were back playing in front of 2000 folk! Cast, the verve both broke up

[@thestorm5735]

​@francisbrodie9140 the 3rd album is great in its own coke-up way, it's on the 4th where things got kinda meh

[@marshallgibson8872]

Kurt never got high off his own farts. I don't think they play nirvana at Barnes and Nobel either.

[@emgee9775]

Who care what Noel thinks? Kurt had serious drug, pain, depression and ADHD issues which he would never understand. Kurt was speaking his truth, and it’s not for Noel to tell his what to say.

[@HarleyMM1328]

can say the same for Kurt tho. i love nirvana but jesus christ most of their stuff is depressing. not bad for Noel to want to put out an uplifting tune to have people feel good.

[@rmv9194]

He had great aim tho!

[@corrioliseffect]

‘I Hate Myself And I Want To Die’ is a thrillingly energetic song. The title was chosen as a joke. Every Nirvana fan knows this.

[@Laissez-faire402]

What is the joke if he un-alived himself afterward?

[@vladimirimp]

If Noel was too stupid not to take their titles literally, it’s offensive that he didn’t criticise Rpe Me instead.

[@lawnmowerman7]

firstly, that song wasn't a hit. also, he meant it as a joke

[@sorryimsosad]

It was so untrue he attempted suicide and then actually committed to it. Guess he was really serious about his irony. “See guys I’m dead now just for the bit”

[@lawnmowerman7]

@@sorryimsosad he got more depressed after he wrote it. It was meant to be a reference to how people perceived him. This is what he, himself said, anyway

[@Laissez-faire402]

​@lawnmowerman7 You should be ashamed of yourself. Where is the "joke" in this situation?

[@lawnmowerman7]

@@Laissez-faire402he specifically stated that he named it that out of sarcasm, cause he knew that's how he was viewed. I should be ashamed of myself for pointing that out? What a stupid comment

[@lawnmowerman7]

@@Laissez-faire402 he was being sarcastic because he knew that was how he was perceived. I'm pointing out something he said himself. I should be ashamed of that? what a stupid comment

[@mack_hein]

“Leave Forever” sums up my thoughts on Oasis

[@eqx7168]

Live forever is an incredible song

[@ENORMP]

Love this song. I wanna Live ForEveR🎶🎶🎶

[@danielc1136]

Live forever is such an amazing song

[@superlizita1]

Respect for Cobain, so sad he ended dead. And respect for Noel for overcoming his rough life

[@dreal500]

Gallagher was not wrong neither was Kurt. Two different perspectives on life.

[@EvilDeathFx]

The thing is, when you have a lot of pain and Despair, hearing others share theirs actually uplifts you because you finally feel not alone in your feelings, and others understand and go through their own battle. So if you hear a “happy” song, it makes you feel misunderstood, thereby isolating you even further

[@EljadedCynic]

I think in the younger years the duality of the messages is important to hear as you experience life. You go through angst and all sorts of things and hearing music that you can identify with, have a catharsis with, is important but so is the music that helps to lighten the heart and that maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

[@CalamityHillMusic]

"As much as i liked him" Noel just didn't like the title of the song. He said multiple times that he liked cobain and his songwriting. Kurt was depressed, noel wasn't. So obviously noels isnt going to like it. Slide away is a banger of a song that noel written when he was down. It was just about the title nothing else.

[@mewgiah8057]

I believe Noel was ultimately right. I’ve noticed toxic media has done a number on the populations mental health. There have been studies done that show people who watch the news regularly are 10x more depressed compared to those that ignore it. Literally consuming negative media impacts your mind and soul. I mean hell put on one of your favorite songs that is uplifting and euphoric. You will immediately have a pep in your step seconds after listening. Same goes for listening to angsty music. Of course Noel isn’t saying that listening to angsty music will immediately give you depression or make you do the thing the song is talking about. He’s just saying musicians can have a big impact on pop culture. For the record I’m a big Nirvana fan and I get that many people were able to relate to Kurt because of how raw the songs are. But I overall do think Noel was right. Like the larger conversation.

[@LeeKirkman88]

Music fits everyones mood and everyones stories. Thats how i see it we all have a song we can relate to. We all have our mood music. I used to wake up to Oasis every single day. As i kept sleeping through alarm clocks so i bought this Stereo system that you could set the alarm and it would play what ever cd or radio station etc you wanted. And i used to have the volime up a bit to make sure it got me up. Oasis brings back alot of memories.

[@EduardoRaya-dj6zv]

Kurt was depressed, having health problems, emotional cobain needed help, he was screaming for help..😊

[@simonkyle2009]

2 best bands of the last 35 years

[@PhookYoo]

Noel hates everyone, including himself.

[@Maddi89]

That s one of my fav nirvana songs 😭

[@oliverchong2428]

They’re 2 completely different types of song and music from 2 completely different types of people. I love them both! ❤️

[@Kev-lfc10-163]

Leave forever. I love that song.

[@markdubois3614]

I feel Cobain really at times thought that's what people think of me. He would often say my lyrics have very little to do with my life or me at all but could be maybe he was a little embarrassed only Kurt knows ? his lyrics have helped people in darkness no doubt. thanks Kurt for your talent and honesty RIP.

[@FELIPE20248]

Kurt was already legendary when he born

[@Tyron95]

I grew up listening almost exclusively nu metal and oasis. While metal was my emotional vocabulary, oasis allowed me to take a break from the dark and enjoy a bright sunny dreamy afternoon

[@josephmoya9929]

man, he's so right! the way out is through, and if you beat yourself up with self pity, it's no way to live.

[@Greasy0.0]

I believe both were true in their endevours

[@michaelallen3207]

I'm a fan of both bands but Noel is always right like me he's from Manchester and northern sence is always on the nail

[@michaelclyburn5858]

✨Two good songs that’s it. Move along.✨

[@spaceorbison]

He's got every right to express whatever he wants as much as Kurt does.... It's not like they had KZbin hanging over their heads telling them how they should feel.

[@madelynmoreau]

I am Kurt. You guys just don’t understand.

[@murphy1832]

Oasis had a problem with everything and everybody

[@owenlinares6445]

Gallagher always has a problem 😭

[@Randomblurbz]

Noel has always been riddled with jealousy because Kurt was so much better.

[@ads2686]

don't think the guy who his about to make millions with the oasis comeback while Kurt blew his brains out.....

[@vr6swp]

Cobain’s dark sense of humor just didn’t match up with the more straightforward Gallaghers. I also don’t think Noel was wrong pinning Kurt as a whiny self pitying millionaire

[@rickm3779]

I grew up with Nirvana and Oasis - I was a teen when both groups hit the scene. I’m 51 now and blessed to have been around in those days when music was awesome. I got nothing bad to say about Nirvana or Oasis.

[@thatssoironic]

It’s true! Kurt wrote dark lyrics because he was depressed! Life is hard sometimes, and Kurt didn’t hold back when he wrote. If it wasn’t Noel’s speed, he didn’t have to listen, but we all know Kurt had more talent in his little finger than Noel PLUS his brother would ever have in their entire lives. He was JEALOUS. Lots of people were jealous of Kurt when he was alive.

[@jm19094]

Good grief, that title was clearly a joke about the image the media portrayed of him. And it ended up as the title of a song with nonsense lyrics about having a cold. Noel Gallagher sipping his tea with outstretched pinky and tutting at the naughty rock star who’s gone too far is a bit bloody rich!

[@08SB80]

I Hate Myself and Want to Die was Nirvana’s song on the soundtrack for the movie, Beavis and Butthead. Decent soundtrack. If anyone actually needed to know this…

[@JimStyslinger-hq9sq]

I don't think Kurt Cobain wrote that song to glamorize self-pity and I truly think that's a very hollow comment to make. He was a musician who wrote songs to express himself l. I mean, whether you want to believe it or not, all of his songs were NOT necessarily for his fan base. They were for him. Coming from him. Trying to find a way to make it through his life.

[@Santi-bt7if]

Music is the only thing in the universe that you can love more than whatever you think you are, that's the key of living forever.

[@samgio0217]

Quite possibly the two greatest bands to come out of the 90s

[@axelbruv]

I think Nirvana are quite pedestrian, even though they were one of the bands I grew up listening to. The Colour and the Shape is one of my favourite albums of all time. I doubt the Foo Fighters would have happened if it weren't for Dave Grohl's experience in Nirvana, though.

[@clinthineman7800]

My Father said the same thing about Nirvana. God Bless Em

[@jokerswildio]

Honesty is what made Cobain and Nirvana legendary. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking this was a joke...he killed himself a year later. What we say and project manifests itself. Gallagher was right that music is too powerful a medium to take lightly (I am paraphrasing)...be careful.

[@lisaparsons4124]

The song I hate myself and want to die was a joke.Kurt Cobain was a awesome singer, and sad he passed away in1994, back when I was 27.May kurt Cobain RIP 💐🙏