Tess Holiday's Fat Positive TikTok vs Michelle Mcdaniel (My Thoughts)

[@Michellemcd543]

Wait why didn't you pick the elf cosplay for the thumbnail? i look MOST beautiful there lmfao LOVE YA MERRY CHRISTMAS

[@sseymour26]

Merry Christmas Michelle McDaniel

[@naomivanessathefatgirl2617]

Happy holidays!!!

[@aditishenai4440]

Michelle thanks for all your tips I managed to lose 6 pounds in 2 months and am carrying out my journey. You're an inspiration as I am also suffering PCOS and abnormal uterine bleeding. Pls can u share tips on how to jack my arms like urs cuz am in love ❤

[@toes4880]

Merry Christmas Michelle

[@susanka.kaczmarek8419]

Merry Christmas Michelle, to you and yours. Love you.

[@amandapanda20]

I am vegan and have celiac disease, which means most restaurants aren't safe for me. I still managed to get to over 350 pounds because I know how to cook. So yeah, her not eating McDonald's doesn't mean anything. Lost 100 in the last year, though!

[@dahliaherrod4301]

Congrats to you girl? How'd you do it?

[@laurenkathleen2221]

Congrats!!

[@theorganicsage4544]

Period, go head Chile

[@Kx____]

that's amazing, hope you feel ok!

[@Ishizu09]

i feel ya! I have UC and i avoid like the devil avoids holly water any take out and restaurants. So i cook. And i overeat XD that is why i gain weight. Trying to count calories now XD

[@Yougaljuboja]

I looove Michelle, she's just the cutest/scariest/funniest/sexiest/strongest/weirdest woman in my world ^^

[@rockisrx]

Hahaha same

[@desicatedlimbs]

Girl she was the first "gain" type FAES discourger, because I'm from the opposite side of over eating ED. But she is soooooo cute and I love her voice and FX work. She works so hard to make everything funny and serious. Love it.

[@KM-xx1qb]

If she weren’t the size she is she wouldn’t be a model, period.

[@Yougaljuboja]

@@KM-xx1qb We are talking about Michelle ... not about Tess...

[@melsalvi9208]

Yes!!! She is great!

[@AmandaBabyyyyy]

Being fat isn’t a personality trait thooo 😬 who’s gonna tell TH?

[@allyson--]

.....

[@stormyalice]

This so much! She literally makes it a personality trait.

[@IceQueen975]

I mean, a fuckton of people have made being gay/a woman/a minority a personality trait so....

[@moisezb6147]

@@IceQueen975 yeah but you can lose weight. I agree that none of these should be your personality or the only thing you talk about. But being proud of being something that you have absolutely no control over, that causes no harm to yourself, (unlike your weight) that many people have historically hated and legally punished you for (and still do) can’t seriously be compared to eating yourself to 300 pounds and complaining you can’t fit on an airplane seat

[@alijane6675]

That's ironic, considering Michelle's entire personality is working out, dressing up, and hating on people who don't meet her fitness standards.

[@desicatedlimbs]

Beast gettin heated over males getting up in women's DMs sent me to heaven. You're a good person and keep up that energy everyone!

[@neversaw]

Desicated Limbs a man who gets it is always nice. My brother is one of those 'that shit isn't happening' deniers like hi I have copped that many unsolicited dicks as well as unneeded commentary.

[@craigime]

lol

[@jake-amirblumenfeldwitz6068]

@@neversaw easy fix: just be ugly lol, ive literally never been acknowledged by dudes ever XD

[@roxassora2706]

@@jake-amirblumenfeldwitz6068 Lol. Tje desperate nice guys hit us up.

[@godlovesyou3932]

“My girlfriend complains when she lays on my chest cause it feels like rocks” Weird flex but okay 😂😂😂

[@FromTheAshes7]

I caught that, lmfaooo.

[@gxtmfa]

Literally flexing

[@miaconstransitch8979]

Then the slow zoom in where he said it makes me selfy conscious

[@beckyhankins7134]

Tess: Half a (bleep)ing banana! John: *war flashbacks* Freelee: *enters the chat*

[@thatonechick6744]

After all that I just wanted some bananas.

[@mikmik1855]

Oh god, I’m eating a banana right now...

[@kaiwryn]

Needs more likes.

[@DibIrken]

She ate half a fookin banana ....but downed 2 large boxes of pizza that evening.

[@ina7084]

I want homemade banana ice cream..

[@unknownhuman5873]

Michelles video almost offended me bc her channel name and some titles. Then I actually watched the video and she was very sarcastic but makes good points and joking and I loved her for her pug, hot cheeto addiction, cosplay, and love for anime. I love her channel

[@Laura-tv2dx]

Yeah her videos kept coming up in my recommendations but I slept on her channel for a long time. The name of the channel seems like it's going to be one of those that purposely tries to provoke people. And then gets "mad" when they react. But no she's actually great.

[@palesarox13]

@Alessandra Gabbana it's because you enjoy content like hers. Like obese to beast says, they have similar content and if you like him you might like her

[@slimecorn]

I think the difference between them is that John is more kind to the the people in his videos compared to her and also more relaxed on general. I like her content but I have to be in a certain mood since she has more energy.

[@neversaw]

Yes, I was expecting her to be like that hideous "comedian" who did the 'dear fat people' shit but instead there's validity and originality and empathy. And she's funny! Also- why are clothes never designed to deal with boobs so bra straps are forever some kind of issue

[@KaylaMarie_]

I think she should change the name of her channel. It's too long and it put me off from her for a long time before I caved in and ended up liking her. The titles of her videos are mostly trolling lol

[@serendouss9575]

Tess Holiday makes me irrationally grit my teeth. She's another person who has made 'fat' her brand and is promoting a lifestyle choice as 'rebellious' when it's really just dangerous for 90% of the people following it. Other than being fat, Tess Holiday is a conventionally attractive woman with an hourglass figure. That's why she's been able to be so successful and why she's landed brand deals and promotions. She's been able to make enough money to offset the difficulties of being that big. She can afford nicer clothes, bigger furniture, etc...and doesn't have to try to maneuver regular life unlike the majority of her followers. She can also, presumably, afford to manage any health issues she may be experiencing. She's able to curate this image of a beautiful , happy fat woman with no weight related issues and that's just not reality.

[@matematicarka]

it's not just that, also some brands want to be fake woke cause it makes them money

[@amandalopez6063]

💯💯 I agree with everything except curvy she’s beautiful young lady but she’s not curvy she’s just overweight I know ppl use curvy as a nice way of saying fat

[@repentorperish1386]

@@amandalopez6063 i think op was saying that if she were thinner she would have the body most people like with the hourglass figure. You can tell she carries weight in the righr areas but she has just out on way too much of jt

[@amandalopez6063]

@@repentorperish1386 I know what she said and again I disagree that’s not her body shape

[@repentorperish1386]

@@amandalopez6063 yeah its not her body shape now thats what i was trying to say

[@TheWolfeDen]

I like Michelle's brand of tough love. She comes from a place of empathy but doesn't sugarcoat stuff. I found her to be really abrasive at first but she grew on me pretty quickly Edit: I feel like she'd be the kind of trainer who'd yell at you a bunch but it would be mostly words of encouragement

[@poke-talia268]

The clip of the guy yelling "i love you" aggressively at the dog. Lol

[@zsazsa4159]

She doesn’t even seem to be tough to me, she’s just honest but she’s still nice and polite and non of her critique or criticism comes off as being ‘’mean’ honest. Cause I can’t stand ppl who use “tough love” as an excuse to just be mean. She doesn’t do that in my opinion.

[@jessicalynne1359]

Sorry, Tess, but when you're in your late 20s/early 30s and you can't stand up on your own from a kneeling position, that's not healthy.

[@manicshoutout8968]

John be drinking his respect women juice today fr

[@MatthewPeterMurphy]

“Ive only eaten one banana today” *chugs 2 bottles of vodka at night alone in my room * *stares at belly fat in the mirror* “IvE oNlY EaTEn OnE bAnANa tODaY!!”

[@KristaAndersonPhilipps]

Guilty. Lol you can either drink, or eat. You can't do both. 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Ame2847]

@@KristaAndersonPhilipps Ayyyeee HHAHAHAHA

[@WhatIsItToBurn]

Michelle is one of my favourite KZbinrs. Just narrowly being beaten by Yoshi...

[@naomivanessathefatgirl2617]

Same!!!

[@georgies5357]

If you say it's all genetics, then you abdicate all responsibility to change.

[@glamasaurus]

I grew up in a "we are all fat family" once I stopped living and eating like them I got to am average weight

[@TheMightyOdin]

Genetics loads the gun. Behavior pulls the trigger.

[@esmee6308]

@@glamasaurus Did they take it as personal as mine? Even my stepfather took it personal somehow... My brother is great about it though, when they went on their 'deficiencies, genes, too skinny' rant in his presence and said "just look at your brother" he replied "I just eat and drink too much."

[@glamasaurus]

@@esmee6308 They like to say that I never eat but I do just not as much.

[@esmee6308]

​@@glamasaurus It's probably genuinely their perspective. I get double annoyed since they restrict my movement (want to go for a walk? Let's discuss it for 45m with a 50/50 chance at ideal times 10/90 chance at any other time...) So I *have* to eat less, as well as distorted (stepdad takes it *very* personal if you eat less than 1600-2000kcal of his homecooked meals.) Because on a normal day I eat close to them, I think, I'm just ridiculously active as well.

[@kiddo9360]

I have never seen a person that size in asia. And i have travelled a lot. I watched some of my 600 pound life and i was shocked out of my core. Its definitely an american food problem not genetic problem.

[@pingu3984]

We travelled to Singapore and throughout South East Asia for a while and it wasn't untill we got back to the UK we noticed an issue. We stood inside and asda and had this moment of "holy sh*t. Everyone is really fat." You don't notice it when no one is overweight because it's normal.

[@kiddo9360]

@@pingu3984 I'm from Singapore. At a very young age in secondary school, if someone is overweight, they are asked to come to school earlier than the rest for exercise routines. If you're underweight then you're given other sort of help. Some other nations around do the same. We also have cooking classes where we learn about nutrition and etc. Food sold in school also goes through certain criteria to deem it healthy. You would have also noticed that the food here has smaller portion sizes and nowhere nearly as caloric dense. We do eat out a lot but we do not indulge ourselves with things like pizzas and fast foods much. I have travelled to UK and some parts of europe. The portions sizes are huge and the most convenient thing to get is fast food. That is not the case here.

[@pingu3984]

@@kiddo9360 I didn't know that bit about how schools over there deal with overweight/underweight students. Thank you for sharing. The UK doesn't have anything like that. It's now hate speech to point any any differences and "kindness" to watch people slowly die in front of you. Yes, I did notice that food portions were much smaller... And what's more is I noticed that I was still full even after eating a much smaller portion. I also agree with you that the ease of fast (high trans fat, ultra processed) food wasn't so ready available. When we did go lazy and eat "fastfood" it was still steamed rice, salmon and teriyaki with a high sugar content. Also.... Our young boys don't have the mandatory national service that yours do. I can image thay makes quite a difference.

[@share_accidental]

@@kiddo9360 i know the old name for this programme is ‘taf club’. in my school, it was called the running programme. as someone who went through that programme just a few years back, what i observed is that it was only effective for a few people & even then they (usually) lost weight due to 2 reasons: 1) they were embarrassed to be in the programme (not sure whether they lost weight in a healthy manner) 2) puberty i found the criteria to qualify for that programme to be ridiculous. it was purely determined by BMI. i had a friend who was overweight by just 1kg & she had to be in the programme. i myself was probably a bit more overweight, but i think i was less than 5kg overweight. i’m a female too. i won’t type my entire journey here as it’s way too long, but puberty helped me. i was lucky enough to be of acceptable weight in secondary 3 & didn’t have to be in the programme anymore! i didn’t do much, i just happened to stop craving snacks towards the end of my secondary 2 days. i wish this happens to me again. although i didn’t care about being in the programme in secondary 1 & 2, i was desperate not to become overweight in secondary 3 & 4. the irony! one of my main reasons was so that i wouldn’t have to be back in the programme, but that’s a whole other story. my rant probably doesn’t make much sense, but i feel that the programme only managed to pressure a few students into losing weight. i guess in singapore, people aren’t bullied as much for being overweight, so a lot of the students just couldn’t care less about losing weight. although, it definitely influenced us to have an unhealthy mindset when it comes to health & weight loss. i’m 20 & my weight still fluctuates. it sucks. there was only one nutrition talk & all we did was just running! isn’t weight loss 80% diet & 20% exercise? yes, exercise is important but i felt that the school should’ve emphasised on what we ate too! the only improvement they did was that they separated the overweight & severely overweight students when i was in secondary 2. the overweight students (including me), continued with running. the severely overweight students went to the gym instead. sorry for the really long rant, i just never really had the opportunity to complain about this programme. these are just my really strong opinions, maybe i was affected by the programme more than the majority. i only knew of 1 male classmate that got pressured to lose weight & i saw how the same happened to that friend of mine.

[@amandalopez6063]

@@kiddo9360 I never knew that but that’s awesome they care about physical health and help the kids with healthy habits. America should take notes.

[@LoganLovesPickles]

Michelle: If I go braless, I will take an eye out. John: Same, though. Dude I spit out my coffee. lollll

[@clemenciaharmon1753]

Forreal same

[@DibIrken]

Mine are pretty limp. They are sad...real sad boobies. 😭

[@kenziecullen4434]

I’m glad that you brought up that Tess has a nice shape even if it’s obese because it brings up another hypocritical point to her “F*** Your Beauty Standard(s)” philosophy: for as much as she preaches that she doesn’t want to conform to society’s beauty standards, she sure is good at maintaining a relatively hourglass figure! Just because it’s larger than what society is used to, doesn’t mean it doesn’t conform to the beauty standard. I guarantee that she would _never_ allow her tummy to surpass her bust, or her waistline to exceed her hips. That’s why it’s okay for _her_ to work out, “but don’t feel like _you_ need to.... (you’ll just never be a model like me, Tess Holliday, but I won’t ever tell you that!)”

[@EloF31]

Right! Women that carry their weight on the lower part of their body are seen as more attractive than women who carry it on their top half.

[@pingu3984]

1000% correct. She absolutely still conforms to what she knows sells the money which is what the industry has already decided is "the look". Her face is also relatively slim compared to the rest of her and she still has some definition in the lips and the cheekbones. If she had a stereotypical fat lady face no-one would have looked twice.

[@connemalai8320]

Yes absolutely!! Also look at her face! It's so conventionally pretty. A lot of people at her weight do not look like that. And so she doesn't really represent people like that. Which is okay but she shouldn't act like she does.

[@Sammy86Lynn]

Seriously! I’m not at big as her, but she carries her weight better than me. It’s a perfect hourglass shape. All my fat is in the midsection, so I don’t look as good as her.

[@kenziecullen4434]

@@Sammy86Lynn I disagree; maybe she carries her weight differently but your smile is much lovelier!

[@diannaw]

It cracks me up seeing John say everything Michelle is gonna say right before she says it😂 i saw her video when it was first posted so it was funny seeing you have the same points of view

[@Morgan21590]

I love Michelle. Watching her channel actually got me started on tracking my calories, and I've lost almost 12 kg since the beginning of September, after struggling for over 10 years with being slightly overweight.

[@gokcenakdag8189]

Wow thats great! İdk what you mean by slightly but pls dont overdo it!

[@Luffz]

That's amazing, great job! Keep it up!

[@moonimaalam1127]

OMG! Same here! I was chubby then lost some weight, then gained more 🤦🏽‍♀️,,then I have found Michelle and started tracking my calories,,I am not very restrictive but I am counting what goes down the hatch 🤗,,, lost 2 kg in 1month,,,6 more to go 🥰

[@misscypher9857]

michelle: if I go braless, I will take an eye out john: same though me: wait what 😳

[@akumayoxiruma]

John's breasts also do because of his loose skin. If you see one of his body update videos, you will understand.

[@nope6473]

Read this as it when on

[@jorymichelle7652]

It made me very happy that you recognize the weird way men react and decide that flirting with women on the internet is a good idea. A lot of people don't think or even don't know that it's common and uncomfortable.

[@craigime]

lol

[@repentorperish1386]

So men can't flirt with women?

[@regrettispaghetti2517]

@@repentorperish1386 why tf would you be flirting in a youtube comment section

[@repentorperish1386]

@@regrettispaghetti2517 tf would you assume youtube when op said internet as a whole?

[@LinaK786]

It's interesting that Tess claims to be completely healthy now, because she used to have a blog where she complained about not being able to run after her child and so on. She also said that it's one thing to be proud of being a big woman and another to be tired of all the side effects that come with it.

[@datpsychobytch]

Exactly I remember her stating the issues she used to have honestly. Then she stopped and started saying that she was only 250 pounds when it was obvious she wasn’t till it finally came out she was in the 300s and as big as she’s gotten she claims to be in perfect health now 🤔

[@Fayeluria]

@@datpsychobytch No offense but she's probably WAY over 300 pounds even. She's likely closer to 400. I was almost 300 pounds at one point, and while I acknowledge that everyones' body is different, I wasn't even close to her size :/ So I'm kinda concerned there, she seems very delusional.

[@hello.sunflower]

@@Fayeluria I’m was 5’5” & my starting weight was 275 lbs. I appeared smaller than Tess’ “250 lbs” I saw that number on the scale and decided enough was enough.

[@datpsychobytch]

@@Fayeluria you hit the nail on the head!! that’s the point I’m trying to make she claimed to be 250 for a whole year And a half when it was clear she was in the mid 300s now that she’s began to admit she 300 I’m sure she’s in the 400s the denial of hot truly big she’s gotten will eventually kill her

[@KristaAndersonPhilipps]

@@Fayeluria same. She looks like 450- to 500. I was 304 during my biggest, and now I'm literally half that. I didn't have this ridiculous notion that being morbidly obese was beautiful - I needed to exercise and eat healthier. I have severe hypothyroidism, and yet even with that, it's still possible to lose the weight. Even at my biggest, I wasn't anywhere close to her size. I was wearing a size 16.

[@haileyreign]

When Michelle was talking about not being able to go braless and John pauses just to say "Same here." did it for me. Subbing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cursedcookies]

I lost my shit when he said that XD

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

Ikr!

[@sirandrewaguecheek6512]

is that the aro ace flag in your pfp?

[@haileyreign]

@@sirandrewaguecheek6512 yes it is 😁

[@sirandrewaguecheek6512]

@@haileyreign ooh do you mind if i ask you a question about asexuality?

[@alliesmhee3436]

Tess needs to accept how much she does eat. She’s in denial

[@juliamary1587]

Honestly I think that strawberry dress is ugly on skinny people too.

[@laryholmes8546]

Yeah i agree😂

[@christinaishere1]

Thank you! I’m glad it’s not just me!

[@kenziecullen4434]

The more I look at it, the busier it gets!

[@naomivanessathefatgirl2617]

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

[@IceQueen975]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK THE DRESS IS PRECIOUS!!! But for the Grammys? No. Not appropriate.

[@thighsthelimit]

"Why is there a green alien yelling at me?" lmao, love her though

[@helvetecaLLC]

Half of a banana is the first thing she’s eaten all day”... well please give me a food count at the END of your day haha

[@mikelberke8239]

One of the main reasons I was so big is that I would forget to eat during the day or eat like 1500 in one day for a few days then yeat 5-6 thousand calories dinners.... and yeah binge eating is serious and needs way more attention brought to what it actually is and how to work your way through it so that you can stop the shame cycle full stop.

[@Postmortementrails]

I literally just ate nothing all day and binged my dinner. I finally admitted I have an ED to myself a few days ago for the first time. 😔

[@JoyfulinHope]

Tess being too busy to eat a proper meal but still finds time to tiktok her half piece of a banana and whine...

[@amandalopez6063]

As if she can’t order or get an assistant to get her food😂😂😂

[@rosannah.4113]

Yes! Tess is all about EVERY beauty standard, except body size. Definitely a contradiction. She is so gorgeous, I wish she wasn’t so toxic.

[@shelbielynne9609]

I absolutely ADORE Michelle. I've been watching her videos every day for a while now and she's so funny, educated, relatable, logical and entertaining. I also always admire a fellow weeb! (P.S. I loved your collab video with her.)

[@CairynJay]

That rant to men about how shitty they are online was 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻

[@thewild5719]

RIGHT??? I can't believe more people haven't commented on it.

[@craigime]

lol

[@repentorperish1386]

Ah right tell men how shitty they are online because of shitty people that has nothing to do with being male and everything to do with being a shitty person...

[@craigime]

@@repentorperish1386 don't waste your time with these ridiculous people. She doesn't know how stupid she sounds- that's the sad part

[@repentorperish1386]

@@craigime i can't help but say something. I have a son and I would hate for him to be told that he isn't allowed to so what is natural as far as flirting with a woman. Or for him to be told he is disrespectful for trying to ask a woman out or something its ridiculous and these people are ridiculous.

[@memefortime]

There is a spongebob meme for everything!

[@keyskeyboard]

Oh my god, I remember being 300+ pounds and on the rare occasion that I remembered I hadn’t eaten all day, bragging about it 😂 c’mon girl, we know that’s not all you eat on a regular basis

[@grey2366]

Ahh, I love Michelle! I don't watch as much of her content because she's one of those creators that I definitely like, but her energy is on like, an 8 most days and I need around a 4 or 5 for chill watching stuff, which is most of what I do on YT. Her tough love style seems to be much kinder than the way others go about it while still being pretty honest. Not to mention, I'm a weird cosplaying, anime-loving nerd grasping at my lost 90s childhood so, she appeals to that too.

[@marmelaota1703]

I kinda feel you. There are some more energetic creators who's videos I don't click immediately because I'm not in the mood but then when I decide to do I watch all I missed in a row😂

[@justapersontrying]

Omg you just explained why I don’t always watch her lol. She’s awesome and I enjoy her but I’m too sensitive for all that energy.

[@poke-talia268]

Another cosplaying, anime-loving nerd here, a couple things: 1) There's a chill but upbeat (a little high energy some videos) soap making channel. It's called royalty soaps. They have themes each month with soap. There's even occasionally a secret soap series. 2) Have you seen the series Rokka no Yuusha (Braves of the Six Flowers)?

[@oszaszi]

My mom does this all the time when we video call or we meet. She tells me what she ate and says to me "look at me, im fat and i barely ate" then she asks my stepdad to confirm it. But we both know its not true. She does have hormonal issues that makes her emotions go haywire and eat more than necessary. But I dunno why she even tells this to me, I never point out her weight and I never even talk about any eating related thing with her... so I am always just confused what she wants me to say... and when we meet in person and she sees im normal sized now, she always pressures me about eating more and says I look like a skeleton and no one will like me. I aint no skeleton, I am 5,7 around 170 lbs. Its just thin, compared to the rest of my family.

[@Lawltasticness]

Ask her what she's gonna eat later

[@Grace-to6hn]

I feel you. My mom does something similar.

[@elenalee351]

They want someone outside of themselves to agree because then it is easier to lie to themselves. You don't have to start an argument but it's best not to agree with them since then it's just enabling them to lie and continue to have a problem.

[@ashleykeith2636]

Same mom here. I only now realize she's the reason I developed such a bad relationship with food.

[@tektako]

Morbidly obese people DO usually sit around all day because they’ve rendered themselves immobile so there’s that. Tess’ overt hostility and defensiveness however is all the evidence you need that she’s not actually cool with being obese except she’s stuck because her entire livelihood depends on staying freak level fat. Tess isn’t necessarily overeating NOW tho she might just be maintaining therefore eating a proper amount. Tess has become her fat tho because there is no discernible personality shown beyond being angry about fat-talk. WHO would Tess be if she wasn’t obese?

[@lainiwakura1776]

I'm morbidly obese and not immobile. Morbid obesity starts in a lower BMI than you would think.

[@esmee6308]

Morbidly obese people generally sit around all day because they don't *want* to move and their bodies don't exactly make it rewarding, but it takes extremes for it to actually be impossible. My parents are 450lbs+ (5'4 and 5'10) and they can do more than my disabled body when they want to, that when is just extremely rare. I walk 10k+ steps a day, cycle daily as well, lift 1h a day with 1-2 rest days a week depending on the program and do all the good stuff like stretches, balance, dedicated cardio etc. After 2 years I've nearly closed the gap but I can, at best, hike faster and longer than they can, everything else, we're pretty much equal. For now... Also Tess doesn't appear too much of an exception though it might be the HAES exposure I get through my mother. Her livelihood depends on it, yes, but so many 'curvy women' (just quoting them) make their size and food their identity and then claim it's 'just enjoying life.' As if it's impossible to enjoy life whilst eating balanced and working out, where-as most people I know that work out do it because they love the process, results are just a bonus.

[@serendouss9575]

@@lainiwakura1776 I was and still am morbidly obese (340lbs vs 206lbs) and I didn't sit around all day even at my heaviest but I certainly wasn't as active as I needed to be in order to off set the amount and types of foods I was eating.

[@irabow5378]

To be maintaining at her size though she would need to eat a massive amount to of food.

[@roseinfinityy]

Imagine if people with thin lips were triggered by "Botox culture", and got offended by anyone talking about Botox in their vicinity. Imagine if people with long legs called businesses tallphobic for not selling long enough pants. Imagine if women with small breasts shamed women with boob jobs on their social media, and were "triggered" by the before and after photo. Imagine if tall people called airlines tallphobic because they don't have enough leg room. It's not like you can work out to become shorter, but I don't see tall people starting movements because they are very uncomfortable in public transportation or because most stores don't carry their pants size....

[@pingu3984]

Give it time lol.

[@WickedJinx]

I have really long legs, I might actually start calling companies tallphobic to make my life easier 😂 thanks for the idea!!

[@PinkyDasOriginal]

Honestly the best comment ever

[@alijane6675]

You've entirely missed the forest for the trees. Learn to think critically. It will serve you well.

[@pasmetha]

I'm tall, and I'm sick and tired that companies don't make long pants

[@lydiabauer629]

Michelle: if I don’t wear a bra, I’ll take an eye out. John: *chokes on water* Me: Same John: Same

[@southernfriedstorytime7367]

Michelles over the top personal is pretty normal in theater groups and her cosplay is amazing! She talks the way my introvert brain works but doesn't have the guts to say. Lol

[@OpqHMg]

Yes the hypocrisy of the whole fatness as rejection of convention while not even thinking twice about other aspects of conventional attractiveness is frustrating... deeply

[@sorryforlatmig7962]

Are you saying she's a hypocrite for wearing makeup, lip fillers, etc.?

[@CL-jw4ei]

@@sorryforlatmig7962 for doing that while claiming to be confronting beauty standards, yeah pretty hypocritical, or at least severely lacking self awareness

[@sl33pybunny]

@@sorryforlatmig7962 1000% when she's claiming to not follow standards of beauty.

[@BlueSky-cj3cf]

Her knees are probably screaming

[@SpookySammy]

Hips too

[@easycharminglife5787]

and the lower back

[@peachycute3034]

Repeat: I love how tess tried to take credit for a dress she didn't create and was already popular and if you compare her to the "skinny, teen" tictockers it's a completely different dress who all had more natural and casual settings even vogue did a beautiful interpretation of it without the over styling that came from tess that just made it into a costume as opposed to a fashion moment. Tess also needs to understand that teenagers are not her demographic (business 101) Its middle aged women the majority of which don't prioritize the latest fashions and trends especially a very over the top and very expensive dress

[@andreanorman4248]

12 minutes in and you literally start exposing what I am going through! I have a hard time calling it binging cuz that doesn’t feel right but THIS explains it EXACTLY

[@Morgankohntopp96]

The best spongebob water referance is the movie, where Spongebob and Patrikck dry out.

[@whyspersong]

So the “I don’t eat” misinformation had me so confused when I started losing weight I was actually afraid I was losing the wrong way. I am so thankful for people like you and Michelle who bring truth into the platform.

[@AcetylCoA605]

Tess Holiday loves to post about how she eats healthy and not overeat but is still obese, but also post about how she eats cakes, and pizzas, and fast foods, and other unhealthy things.

[@Cat_Woods]

That's what puzzles me so much about her claim to have ano* -- you want to say, "You do realize that we have all WITNESSED your binge eating disorder. You put the footage online."

[@Trynsa]

CW: ED talk I'mma keep it super real. I've dealt with restrictive ED my whole life, and later with the addition of binging. I had some serious control issues, and body dysmorphia is a freaking bitch. I currently weigh 270. I've been in physical therapy for degenerative connective tissue problems for almost two years. I was 180 when I started. Before that, I'd had a hysterectomy, and been on a boatload of pain and psych meds that messed up my metabolism, potentially beyond repair. But I'm still working with a dietician, checking in with my primary care doctor. My blood pressure is 120/80 so long as my pain is managed. I eat properly, at a mild-to-moderate deficit. My physical therapist and pain management doctor are telling me to stop focusing on the scale, and to focus on my mobility. And Tess Holliday hurts my situation. Because she doesn't accept that being overweight is bad. She sits there blaming everyone else for making the conversation about weight, when she won't stop talking about how great it is to be fat. My weight makes my life harder, but it can't be my focus. But when people make that the argument, rather than "listen to the healthcare professionals who give a damn," it hurts the people who are already suffering. It took me years to be heard, in the medical system, but the wrong kind of bickering only made it take longer. You, however, give me hope.. You see the nuance, and accept that there is sometimes more to the story. You often talk about the humanity behind a lot of the stories, and I love that. Sorry for the novel-length rant, but I had a lot of feelings to get out there, I suppose lol

[@Trynsa]

Also, I freaking love Michelle

[@rachmaninovwasemo2313]

People want to feel like the victim so people will give them sympathy because they lacked that from their care taker as a child. We see this a lot in teenagers but less in adults because once you are an adult you SHOULD be addressing your issues and working on them instead of falling deeper into them. Most people address their problems to some extent but when you don't, you get people like Tess Holiday.

[@calicuauhtli9841]

Damn hitting us with that carl jung psychology

[@swapmovement7163]

Dude your are so kind, compassionate, opend minded and truly sweet. LOVE the spirit, we need more of that! I just discovered you a few days ago because #boomer but you're doing great :)

[@annajames9682]

“Women don’t care if you’d touch them” THANK YOU KING

[@total.k405]

Healthy weight is a range for a good reason. And its a big range - a range of 50lbs for an average 5'5 woman. It reflects the fact that science understands that people come in different shapes, sizes and body compositions. Not everyone will be naturally super lean, just like not everyone is genetically predisposed to building and holding muscle. But, as John pointed out, the idea that a person, particularly a small female who claims to be otherwise healthy, gets to 350+ lbs without some very serious eating, is ridiculous. At that weight, her Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is over 2000 calories *without exercise*. With a little basic activity, it's up to 3000. With deliberate exercise, it's almost 3500. If she's as active as she claims, she's eating *at least* that much per day to maintain her weight. That's a whopping 35 average-sized bananas...Freelee must be so proud...

[@goddessmelanisia]

It's calories in, calories out, but some of us naturally burn fewer calories. Everyone can lose weight, but it's way harder for some.

[@alexandramaclachlan7597]

"Naturally burning fewer calories"? Sounds like an excuse, to me. The calories out part is just as, if not more, important than calories in. If you "naturally burn less calories", then take that into account with your calories in, and you'll still lose weight.

[@tf7602]

@@alexandramaclachlan7597 they literally said "everyone can lose weight, but it's harder for some" and you say "yeah, but if you try harder you can still lose weight" as if that wasnt the point of the original comment

[@moonlight-mm3iw]

@@alexandramaclachlan7597 naturally burning few calories is a thing. It's called the BMR. Which is largely genetic. But one can still lose weight, they just have to restrict themselves more calorically

[@tiffani5131]

Not saying I 100% support Tess but I will say I have her to thank for my confidence. I am obese (220 lbs) and am trying to lose weight but just bc im fat doesn't mean I gotta hate my body. I am sexy, beautiful, and can light up a room when I walk in and thats on purr💅🏾 I'm losing weight BECAUSE I love myself. Tess helped me realize that being fat doesn't equal ugly and I have to applaud her for that

[@Iwasjustwondering89]

Dude the editing on this one - first class. Thanks for the 🤣, John

[@ariannahernandez4745]

I watched a British show called Secret Eaters. It was about people that didn't understand why they were overweight or obese and the food they don't realize they're eating. It starts with the people writing in a journal what they ate for a week and then they're watched for a few days and every bite is counted. At the end, the calories they thought they consumed was compared to what they actually ate.

[@APilgrimInAFallenWorld2030]

I don’t have anything against overweight people, as I was overweight after having my first child and stayed overweight for about 5 years... That being said, I think we should have some type of help for overweight people especially if they are publicly overeating/ under eating and eating stuff that is dangerous for their health. If someone is a danger to themselves or others, they are taken to get help. I feel that people with eating disorders do pose as a danger to themselves and to those around them. We see people that suffer from anorexia or bulimia get medical help and in extreme cases they can be admitted to a hospital against their will because these disorders are considered self harm. I believe that obesity should also be viewed as self harm. Public criticism and put downs do nothing to help people overcome an eating disorder but exasperates the issue and causes an escalation of the eating disorders. Overeating, or under eating, binging and purging (any eating disorder) pose danger to those who have these eating disorders and also those who follow those who promote eating disorders. Overeating and eating unhealthy food in large quantities is an eating disorder the same as under eating disorders. There are nutritional guidelines for a healthy body and anything far outside those guidelines can be considered an eating disorder. Extremes are dangerous.

[@memefortime]

My next video: watching obese to beast tik tok for 12 hours straight

[@Massielnh]

SOOOOOOOOOOO..... I meet Tess once....it was an "experience". Also, I love Michelle. She's amazing.

[@lowcalgyal406]

Storyyyyyy timeeeeee lol

[@Massielnh]

@@lowcalgyal406 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@normanrockwell9906]

What happened ☕️☕️

[@WinterSPF15]

Commenting in case the tea gets spilled lol

[@Massielnh]

Well , I meet her at the Hollywood Bowl in LA a few years ago when I worked there as a bartender. She was at a concert for Dolly Parton and was wearing baby blue dress just like the strawberry dress in the video. I want to preference this by saying I was a part or at least a devout of "Fat positive" movement at the time. Also want to add that Tess is gorgeous; like she's really that beautiful in person. After meeting her and few other fat positive leaders, I became very disenchanted with the movement. The sheer eliteness (not sure if that's even a word) and high school clique vibe of this group was unreal. For a group that claims it so inclusive, they are definitely not the nicest group of people.

[@gracecar5820]

Aren’t best and worst dressed done by specific individuals and tik tok likes are crowdsourced?

[@KittycatKittycat-jr3ug]

Omg, GOOD POINT!!! Totally forgot that!

[@ellapng_]

To be honest, going in a event as huge as GRAMMY with some kind of instagram famous dress or whatever for me really deserved to be in a "worst dress" list

[@Sweetpeamoonlight]

Straight up "that's so raven'd" me into a commercial! 😂

[@Kyphia7]

Freely would be sssoooo proud of that banana bit. xD lol

[@laurenromeo6954]

Obesity is a real health problem, with it you will develop hypertension, inflammation, insulin resistance and eventually cognitive problems. I understand it hurts their feelings but when we tell them these things, they deny all of it and have some example of someone that is obese and "healthy"...but it isn't true it's only a matter of time until the house of cards folds up. Sadly.

[@jelegget]

I wish she was my cousin. Anime holidays would've been dope

[@christinerodriguez3976]

I love Michelle and I think that she criticizes in a respectful manner. I have never heard her be overly rude about anyone. She merely has a different opinion from those she speaks of and tries to make sense of the things she hears them say.

[@MusicalK93]

Michelle:"If I go braless I will take an eye out" John:"Same though" 🤣

[@AllyCakes12]

I found your channel thru Michelle and her thru Coach Greg's channel lol I love y'all so much. She's definitely entertaining and her editing skills are 🔥🔥

[@alterego2978]

The fact that you also realize that “I couldn’t care less.” Is the correct/logical way to say that phrase. 👍🏼

[@stefanforrer2573]

that kind of shit drives me mad... like people who use "literally" if they mean "figuratively"... and they always justify it with "this isn't grammar school! it's just words, don't take it so seriously! blablabla"..... but when you call them a fucking moron, it's suddenly not just words anymore and they take it very seriously

[@paulina9357]

23:27 while i agree, and i wouldn’t leave comments like that, i also think people who write them don’t write them for Tess (or anyone in her position) but for the fans. many of them are young and actually believe Tess when she says something so i think they leave these comments bc they hope to make them more aware? idk

[@Addicted2ashley]

Lmao 😂 I love how you’re like “she’s so extra” then takes swig from jug in pajamas 🤣🤣 algorithm is hittin today oh my gosh

[@caijda]

Jonh: the true female ally

[@misss870]

I feel like Michelle motivated your editing here. 😝 I watch both of you, this was great!

[@X2behav]

One of the problems with Tess and all the girls in that sphere they are obsessed with their looks more then anyone else They are getting what they put out there

[@ninakaytel4532]

Guy to Me: I CaN't DaTe yOu BEcAuSe YoU aRe iN a WhEeLChAiR Me to guy: I can't date you because I'm a lesbian

[@elielis6]

Lmfaoo😭

[@biancalauren4981]

I dated someone in college who was jacked and I used to say it was like trying to cuddle a sculpture 🤣

[@ChickadeeBoi]

Gah love it! You and Michelle are two personal faves, and help motivate me to be healthy/love my body flaws and all. Also, the collab ya did a while ago was amazing! Spidey is my fave of main stream heros. I grew up with my Gramma who was like aunt May and my Papa was very uncle Ben like before he passed when I was 8.

[@MarleyDrives]

I'd love to speak to Tess in 10 years. And then talk about how healthy she is.

[@Apple1519]

The way she’s going she won’t make the next 10 years

[@Kate-n2310]

*IF* she makes it

[@amandalopez6063]

If she continues on this surplus diet she probably won’t even be here in ten years she seems to be on a slow suicide

[@craigime]

@@Apple1519 i hope she cares enough about her family to actually change

[@vbryington]

Can’t stand Tess

[@oneye7695]

@JoKenTin A'TIN I’M- you didn’t have to go there😭

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

@JoKenTin A'TIN stawp lol

[@cyracandella2226]

So random but I love that you used 'couldn't care less' correctly cause I see so many people use the incorrect phrase 'I could care less' and I'm like uhhh... that implies you care more than you want to lol

[@Sophie-um4vz]

Love your inception videos!

[@leggi_bois4eva]

I *actually* under eat, and guess what, it makes me feel like shit bc I have low blood pressure and low blood sugar💁🏽 I set alarms to eat on days I know im going to be busy, its a problem 😂😅😅 (I used to be obese, lost 60+ lbs, all i did was count calories)

[@solsthrash2603]

Good job of setting up a system so you can make sure you eat enough!!

[@amandalopez6063]

Girl me too I’ve never held a steady weight until recently and now I have issues eating I set alarms too lol

[@user-nk2yn2hh6h]

me too lol i forget to eat for days sometimes cuz of my adhd. still overweight tho (by like 15 lbs, but still)

[@amandalopez6063]

@@user-nk2yn2hh6h lol my adhd too 😂😂 it goes either way I either binge or never eat

[@PuddilyOops]

All I ate today was a small bowl o’ cereal....then night time rolls around and it’s Go Time 🤥

[@3v1l73ddy]

Holy crud! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CORRECTING "could care less" to "couldn't care less", holy shiz not enough people do that.

[@NachoAE360]

Got 2 ads at under 2 min in lol. I know you told us KZbin places them for you, but they really place them illogically haha

[@bluehydrangea6837]

Man I was so glad to get to discover Michelle via your channel; that girl is hilarious, gorgeous and just the kind of massively outspoken, zero-fricks-given person I need in my YT feed! x

[@donrainesoh]

24:52 “no one owes you health” yet when the heart attack happens her and others will be demanding we give them health with tax dollar heart surgery. I’m obese and working on it, I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired. She is too, she’s just afraid to admit it.

[@carolyncz33]

Your mini rant about dudes online reminded me so much of my boyfriend lol y’all are part of the 1% of men who actually respect women

[@craigime]

lol you're ridiculous

[@repentorperish1386]

Seriously? 1% of men that respect women? Gtfo you freakin victim complex virtue signaling bridge troll. Thats a ridiculous and sexist comment

[@NatCreatures]

the banans cut made me lol :D

[@Teddy_Gautier]

That dress is actually ugly to me 😂😂 I’m sorry, but hey, it’s all subjective. That dress wasn’t it, in my opinion. Also, regarding the comment, I think that’s fine actually. They do the same on other people’s content that promotes health and fitness. This is what freedom of speech is about. The moment we start not being ok about stuff like that is when it becomes a slippery slope. However, we are all free to feel the way we do so I’m not getting on your case for it, just bringing awareness 😁

[@laurensanders2692]

Truthfully as a plus size woman. I like it only.... on smaller frames.

[@mithicash1444]

The best way to pop a morbidly obese person's bubble is to ask them to tie their shoes on camera. Then, ask how healthy does it feel. That shit would snap you back to reality real quick! Been there and its not fun.

[@memefortime]

99% of my athletes who think they are eating for their goals are SOOOOO OFF

[@unknownhuman5873]

Haha when she said bananas I got them same flashbacks lmao

[@memefortime]

10/10 would smash Thor

[@LinneAzalea]

I joked with my husband that I would leave him right away if Thor came and told me that he’d wanted me, and my husband went, “that would honestly hurt me so much, because why didn’t he choose me instead?” 😂

[@desicatedlimbs]

Is it sad I know the "I need it" spongebob episode is called tea at the tree dome and the third episode on the VHS because there was 2 episodes including the "anchovies" episode that didn't air first on tv.

[@energiesolaire5738]

I used to binge eating (i see myself eating one cookie watching TV, then i turned of TV and see the family size cookie bag empty in front of me BUT somehow, eventhough i was feeling ashamed and tried to hide the dead body from my relatives everytime, i kept saying i don't eat too much). I was a obese teen (i ate when i felt down, i ate when i felt proud, so i ate all the time.). To me, being obese was similar to a curse, something unfair that happens to you for no reason. Then, my nutritionnist asked me to write down everything that i've eaten each day in a notebook for 2 weeks. I lied and she knew. She looked at me and said : "I think we should stop there cause there is no point here. You are not ready and not willing enough to change. You are not going to lose one pound, so save your money." It was harsh to hear but TRUE. So i stopped lying to myself and finally started to take care of my health. She teached me how to eat properly and i discovered that i was not fat (= i'm not born or build fat). Obesity is not an ethnicity or a personal trait. It's a disease that can be cured. Tess is a beautiful woman, her weight has nothing to do with her beauty.

[@crackbabisims]

Thank you

[@marmelaota1703]

I really liked your little "pretty woman~" 😂

[@Fayeluria]

"If I go bra-less, I'll take an eye out" "Same though" 😭😭😂😂 Michelle seems funny, I might check out her channel. As if I didn't waste enough time on KZbin already 😂

[@Fayeluria]

@JoKenTin A'TIN It's a badge for the channel membership! You can support the channel with some dollars each month and you get that badge 😊

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

Found her not long ago. Loving her!

[@Fayeluria]

@JoKenTin A'TIN It's absolutely not mandatory! But if you want the badge, I guess you gotta :D its basically like a twitch subscription. You also get some other perks

[@Mel-pb5xw]

@JoKenTin A'TIN the green symbol after someone’s user name is from the paid channel subscription. If by chance you’re simply referring to the smiley faces & other pics/ symbols people add w/ in their comments they’re free for anyone to add simply via keyboard options on any phone or tablet; there are ways to add them if on a computer but it’s a bit more of a process.

[@slugakristov8343]

I didnt get that joke

[@whoopsiedaisy2990]

Usually people say to lift voices of color. That is why it sounds so weird. I love Michelle! Nice.