Obi-Wan Kenobi is bad

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@brickabang
@brickabang 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Pyro, the part where Vader yelled “it’s forcin’ time” and forced all over those villagers is the greatest scene in tv show history. This is truly a show.
@thelonelystankmuncher8879
@thelonelystankmuncher8879 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool after he said "you just got forced!" Instant classic
@big_sea
@big_sea 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@MrOnay-px1jx
@MrOnay-px1jx 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and original
@Void_Wars
@Void_Wars 2 жыл бұрын
“Sounds like something’s a little forced here…” 10/10 line.
@belinskiparadox7687
@belinskiparadox7687 2 жыл бұрын
It's Vadin time
@bigsmoke.bigsmoke
@bigsmoke.bigsmoke 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the dude in the Leia chase scene just decided to say "It's runnin' time" and did the silliest possible run he could. Best moment in the entire franchise for sure.
@krimson8317
@krimson8317 2 жыл бұрын
@Deadpoppin No way, he's in this show too? He seems to be in every new movie, how morbastic!
@pointlessless2656
@pointlessless2656 2 жыл бұрын
@Deadpoppin A fellow morb head, I think i've fallen morbly in love, truly every time is indeed morbin time
@Callumari13
@Callumari13 2 жыл бұрын
@Deadpoppin this is truly the most film if all time to earn 10 morbillion dollars. Can't wait to see Morbius 2: More BS and the rest of the Morbius cinematic universe.
@humphreywolfe
@humphreywolfe 2 жыл бұрын
That was definitely a Star Wars moment
@Gramer05
@Gramer05 2 жыл бұрын
@Deadpoppin you mean MORBIUSLY A BEAST?
@CheeseYourself
@CheeseYourself 2 жыл бұрын
The people who get stopped by the easy-to-bypass obstacles are like when you come across a 2-foot tall coffee table in Cry of Fear and you can't jump over it
@burgerfan1
@burgerfan1 2 жыл бұрын
Or every piece of furniture in FPS games
@3dDoener
@3dDoener 2 жыл бұрын
I'm replaying Dragon Age Origins rn and this comment is VERY relatable, the game is full of invisible walls lol
@guywithrevolver
@guywithrevolver 2 жыл бұрын
DSP moment
@smallbutdeadly931
@smallbutdeadly931 2 жыл бұрын
Curbs in State of Decay 2
@hayhydm
@hayhydm 2 жыл бұрын
when it comes to the security fence in episode 3 that kenobi and leia were getting checked by that has nothing else over the mountain, there is usually mines or explosives set so nobody would sneak over the mountains since there are stormtroopers present. although it is a very small fence.
@twiddlemethumbs
@twiddlemethumbs 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not that Leia’s actress is bad-she’s honestly good-it’s that the script is full of lines you’d never hear a ten a year old say. Like, yes, Leia is an awesome female icon of a character, but she can be a cool kid without being so unrealistic.
@FoxyBoxing1
@FoxyBoxing1 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't help the actress just turned 8 when this was filmed. Getting a 7-8 year old to play a 10 year old is so stupid.
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they have to pick the worst director for Star Wars?
@twiddlemethumbs
@twiddlemethumbs 2 жыл бұрын
@@FoxyBoxing1 No, that’s totally true. She was very obviously younger than 10.
@twiddlemethumbs
@twiddlemethumbs 2 жыл бұрын
@@fynkozari9271 NO FR. This show could’ve easily been a slam dunk. They had the actors, the budget-but they had a director that didn’t do it justice at all. It literally feels like the writer watched Star Wars: A New Hope and were like, “I think we know all we need to know, anything we don’t know we can just make up instead of trying to understand how the force works and the actual personalities of these characters.”💀
@mando_dablord2646
@mando_dablord2646 2 жыл бұрын
@@fynkozari9271 We're seeing the script that was modified by Kennedy. So we don't exactly know what the original director had planned.
@Ratman1812
@Ratman1812 2 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how impossibly ridiculous it is that two airspeeders just flew into the fortress without being instantly vaporized? The real life equivalent would be like if two 1992 Toyota corollas with AK47s duct taped to them drove into Guantanamo Bay without being shot at.
@gabrielmecenas2075
@gabrielmecenas2075 2 жыл бұрын
Now that would be badass. But yeah they even show the TIEs hanging around...
@darkcellofficialmusic
@darkcellofficialmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would think there would be some sort of defence around the perimeter of the fortress to prevent an attack or invasion, I don't buy that these two speeders had just flown in with practically zero resistance yet exactly that had happened. I like the series but a lot of stuff about ep 4 and the series in general are just stupid and don't make much sense.
@jasonmardoniomeza1711
@jasonmardoniomeza1711 2 жыл бұрын
😆🤣 that was funny!!! Your not wrong tho.
@missedconceptlol
@missedconceptlol 2 жыл бұрын
He was READY for this. This one was in the chamber.
@SoupsSB
@SoupsSB 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, the airspeeders are meant to be off-the-radar vehicles
@Ryan1993uk
@Ryan1993uk 2 жыл бұрын
another issue I had was how the rebels who attacked at the end knew not to shoot Obi Wan and that, even know they are literally wearing imperials uniforms
@SkullTheOG
@SkullTheOG 2 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair that disguise shouldn’t have fooled anybody in the first place
@bruhman1545
@bruhman1545 2 жыл бұрын
its a bunch of soldiers surrounding 3 people, so thats passable, but after that… eh
@grippyfemboy
@grippyfemboy 2 жыл бұрын
damn i remember i used to watch you back then but suddenly everyone started leaving lol
@bachicken1997
@bachicken1997 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair if i saw a child i wouldn’t shoot the people around them
@christianbarrera5420
@christianbarrera5420 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkullTheOG with that logic they would’ve been caught
@stevo-cb1vq
@stevo-cb1vq 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader could have just walked through the fire because his suit is fire proof
@trevor8726
@trevor8726 2 жыл бұрын
And then darth reva uses force lightning on him and teleports to excogol
@elliottscheffler1752
@elliottscheffler1752 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking the whole time. Vader hates this man and just stares as he walks away. Why couldn't he just grab obi wan again and drag him through the fire?
@lockerbuddy2039
@lockerbuddy2039 2 жыл бұрын
The writers rn: 👁️👁️ wait what?
@Vincent_Rabbit
@Vincent_Rabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@elliottscheffler1752 that shit would be way more cool and simbolic
@dutbud9049
@dutbud9049 2 жыл бұрын
Probably still scared of fire, though.
@laboriouss
@laboriouss 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the first scene with Leia being chased by these mercenaries is like that scene from Heavy Rain where you can fail every quick time event
@xRolyJoel
@xRolyJoel 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god this is the best comparison. That Heavy Rain section is hilarious, the one with Leia just cringeworthy
@apear4892
@apear4892 2 жыл бұрын
thanks now i gotta go watch the heavy rain scene again
@peytonthompson205
@peytonthompson205 2 жыл бұрын
The fact Pyro predicted what happened, and got it right is funny yet sad
@samgidget
@samgidget 2 жыл бұрын
Right!?!
@christianbarrera5420
@christianbarrera5420 2 жыл бұрын
He stole his prediction from nerdrotic he’s been saying this would happen before the show came out
@jrgenbull5334
@jrgenbull5334 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianbarrera5420 "They stole Darth Vader from fortnite"
@christianbarrera5420
@christianbarrera5420 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrgenbull5334 I’m just saying this guy gonna take another channels prediction word for word than at least give credit to who they stole it from
@jrgenbull5334
@jrgenbull5334 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianbarrera5420 And I'm saying that coincidents exist.
@afluffywhitekitty8589
@afluffywhitekitty8589 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed immediately and has permiated just about every scene, is that the cinematography is abysmal! Like there is almost no thought going into creating visual narrative or shot composition. The Vader/Obi-Wan confrontation could have been so much more but it felt so... cheap. Like a made for tv movie.
@donkeydelux640
@donkeydelux640 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY THIS! It's honestly bothered me so much. Also the scene where kenobi kills those two stormtroopers in a "dark" room. Why would you use a wide shot there? Don't you want to convey the anxiety of the stormtroopers through a close up with some heavy breathing and frantic looking around?
@rhetiq9989
@rhetiq9989 2 жыл бұрын
It kind of is a TV movie
@tostie3110
@tostie3110 2 жыл бұрын
There was some terrible shaky cam in the show in ways that we've never seen in star wars before. It honestly was jarring and annoying to look at
@trundenthebad
@trundenthebad 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhetiq9989 yeah, but it has a billion dollar company at the helm. Unless they were trying to “budget” for this series it makes no sense.
@Snek_Animation
@Snek_Animation 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhetiq9989 this show does feel like a long movie, but thats what i like about this show
@baked7327
@baked7327 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where obi wan runs behind a hill, then vader finds obi wan only for him to run away again was really akward and felt weird.
@minecraftsteve5201
@minecraftsteve5201 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan should've ran up the hill, then said "It's over, Anakin! I have the HIGH GROUND!"
@baked7327
@baked7327 2 жыл бұрын
@@minecraftsteve5201 Those hills were wasted potential just like this show
@ThDragoomba
@ThDragoomba 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@rus6685
@rus6685 2 жыл бұрын
If I only could make a deal with god.
@ScarletEdge
@ScarletEdge 2 жыл бұрын
@@minecraftsteve5201 best comment
@MyArchive930
@MyArchive930 2 жыл бұрын
Two things this show needs. More episodes and a focus on Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader’s relationship via flashbacks.
@Papajohn6954
@Papajohn6954 2 жыл бұрын
It does...
@dannythecheeto7481
@dannythecheeto7481 2 жыл бұрын
It needs a scene of obi wan saying "it's forcin time"
@MrOnay-px1jx
@MrOnay-px1jx 2 жыл бұрын
Star wars the clone wars
@Pigness7
@Pigness7 2 жыл бұрын
it needs obiwan to remind me that I have rights
@brickabang
@brickabang 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannythecheeto7481 but that’s vader’s famous catchphrase
@alvinalfianto2806
@alvinalfianto2806 2 жыл бұрын
JUST REMEMBER. if the kenobi series turns out to be bad don't attack the actors like back then especially the kid who play leia. i don't want another jake lloyd incident
@defenestrationismyfavoriteword
@defenestrationismyfavoriteword 2 жыл бұрын
In all honesty Disney's probably gonna chew through the kid regardless. Remember Bobby Driscoll?
@GaiusCaligula234
@GaiusCaligula234 2 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@indexwell6546
@indexwell6546 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, nobody attack the actor, more the actor saying the fanbase are toxic
@gu3z185
@gu3z185 2 жыл бұрын
@@indexwell6546 An 8 year old is not shitting on the fanbase lmao
@King-eg2zl
@King-eg2zl 2 жыл бұрын
That already happened
@hugar3499
@hugar3499 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing I thought was stupid is how none of the mercenaries in that chase scene didn't have a stun blaster. Like you could have easily just stunned her unconscious and taken her, but instead you go through this pointless chase sequence. Like can these mercenaries not afford blasters with stun settings, or is that setting only on empire blasters?
@emiliianoportillo1311
@emiliianoportillo1311 2 жыл бұрын
I guess an argument could be made that stunning an 8 year old could be just the same as tazeing her
@haveidonethisbefore
@haveidonethisbefore 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and that could easily be a parallel/nod to her being stun in a new hope, you know disney like them nostalgic references
@r33lsniper18
@r33lsniper18 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure thats only for stormtroopers
@altechelghanforever9906
@altechelghanforever9906 2 жыл бұрын
@@r33lsniper18 Well that's an even bigger waste of money.
@bigroaststyrone8135
@bigroaststyrone8135 2 жыл бұрын
@@r33lsniper18 that’s the equivalent of giving guns with rubber bullets solely to Marines
@SonicHaXD
@SonicHaXD 2 жыл бұрын
4:45 you're like 80% correct XD
@blakdayy
@blakdayy 2 жыл бұрын
Pyro has always been good at predicting the future
@_exkasier_9624
@_exkasier_9624 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you here my man…could you make your own “Kenobi sucks” vid?
@RetroFan2.0
@RetroFan2.0 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the original script for reva was leaked before this, the only difference was that she was supposed to actually DIE after confronting Vader
@nomshark7241
@nomshark7241 2 жыл бұрын
We have all rights to criticise it because if multi million dollar company can't do something right - its just stupid
@JP-vi4ig
@JP-vi4ig 2 жыл бұрын
*multi billion
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 2 жыл бұрын
multi million? this is disney m8
@hazyworld8626
@hazyworld8626 2 жыл бұрын
Multi billion dollar company can't get good writers or at least chooses not to. Or maybe all the good writers are doing other shows.
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 2 жыл бұрын
@@anameofsomesort1936 i don't know why you are saying this to me i already know that but thnx anyways
@anameofsomesort1936
@anameofsomesort1936 2 жыл бұрын
@@redmarine2717 sorry mate wrong person lmaooo
@xd-ox7rq
@xd-ox7rq 2 жыл бұрын
Great takes. It's nice to see someone who clearly enjoys Star Wars be able to criticize the Kenobi show. It seems that most of the Star Wars fans refuse to criticize the show simply because it is Obi-Wan.
@SilverHyozanryu
@SilverHyozanryu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna assume you don't use twitter because holy fuck they will not shut up about how bad they think it is there.
@Certified-Bruh171
@Certified-Bruh171 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe people actually like it and don’t have problems that other people have? I disagree with a lot of what Pyro said, but in the end it’s his opinion
@streetrat48
@streetrat48 2 жыл бұрын
Shitty prequel nostalgia bait cannot cover up what a horribly written and acted show it is.
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV 2 жыл бұрын
Star War fans dont know what they want really. They got so mad at the anime show even though its more creative than any of these mediocre shows.
@mayathepsychiic
@mayathepsychiic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Certified-Bruh171 it's amazing how everyone manages to over-generalise BOTH sides 💀 no, most fans aren't deflecting criticism because it's obi-wan, the fandom is in absolute tatters right now. no, not everyone who's defending it is just coping, some people are actually just enjoying it.
@Johnny117ctb
@Johnny117ctb 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a tik tok of this starwars nerd explaining why obi wan didn’t go around the laser fence was because apparently there would be land mines around it and I’m like did the writer fucking tell you that??
@minecraftsteve5201
@minecraftsteve5201 2 жыл бұрын
That's some high levels of copium there, innit?
@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn
@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's clearly wrong. 🙄 The real reason why Obi wan didn't walk around the fence was because there was an invisible wall that would've prevented him from going out of bounds.
@chronica6457
@chronica6457 2 жыл бұрын
@@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn It's because the show's a sidescroller
@hk1371
@hk1371 2 жыл бұрын
@@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn nah nah that would just be Obi wan fail rping right there
@dutbud9049
@dutbud9049 2 жыл бұрын
IMO that's a pretty weird complaint. It would've taken the same amount of effort to walk around it.
@frostbyte4987
@frostbyte4987 2 жыл бұрын
The tunnel scene completely mindfucked me, like tala goes back through the tunnel to the end WHERE reva is supposed to be entering, they don't meet up and SOMEHOW tala reaches the end without meeting her AND reva reaches the other end without meeting leia who was running for like the past 10 minutes tf?
@laiyinquan8355
@laiyinquan8355 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that there is a plot hope there, I was so confused
@thomasbailey921
@thomasbailey921 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I think that scene should really be the defining moment for the show: the writers really just want characters to be places and they dont care how they get there. I practically screamed at my television I was so mindfucked by the whole thing.
@DorritoFries
@DorritoFries 2 жыл бұрын
Also, how did tala know where obiwan was, and how did reva even know where the tunnel exited?
@RamallaRed
@RamallaRed 2 жыл бұрын
Force speed
@mtado4933
@mtado4933 2 жыл бұрын
Same bro i thought i was the only one that laughed at that, How in the fuck? And how did the rebel go back and not see the third sister?, I guess they have multiple exits or entry points, But that is not shown in the show and there is no way the third sister knew that, She just vanishes and reappears like my sleep paralysis demon
@MrPonthus
@MrPonthus 2 жыл бұрын
Leia:"I dont trust you obi wan" *proceeds to run away and start a 10 minute chase scene that brings the inquisitors down on obiwan + all the bounty hunters" Leia 10 minutes later:"We need to trust this group that the fake jedi told us about. Trust is all we have mr obi wan"
@gloriousbeard9054
@gloriousbeard9054 2 жыл бұрын
Leia after being saved by old man with lightsaber: Oh no bad guy? Bad guy. *Jogs through and fucks everything over for a man who lost everything* After he does his forcin’ time: Nvm you cool lol we suddenly bonded so ridiculously hard so fast and now we’re best friends haha
@LeonardoMartinez-ge2qn
@LeonardoMartinez-ge2qn 2 жыл бұрын
I hate her .... This is not my leia
@oggdu3766
@oggdu3766 2 жыл бұрын
Jedi Fallen order literally proves that the fortress in this show makes no sense, its like Disney is forgetting their own cannon.
@funnyrednoseguy1001
@funnyrednoseguy1001 2 жыл бұрын
It might be a different inquisitor base possibly? Because the underwater environments that surround the base in fallen order look very different from the ones in Kenobi. I haven’t watched ep. 4 yet so maybe I’m wrong though.
@gakmey
@gakmey 2 жыл бұрын
@@funnyrednoseguy1001 its basically the same
@Arkyubus
@Arkyubus 2 жыл бұрын
Jedi Fallen Order takes place 5 years before this show, and the base is pretty much destroyed, so it isn't the same base. If you remember at the beginning of Fallen Order, Prauf and Cal are talking about how long it has been since the purge, and Cal corrects him by saying it's been 5.
@mistercereal9624
@mistercereal9624 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arkyubus This is the same fortress inquisitorius, its on Nur in the Mustafar system. They made a point to mention it was in the Mustafar system in the show. Even if it wasn’t the same fortress, why would they assume nobody would try to infiltrate it like the other one? This is just poor writing
@MasterIceyy
@MasterIceyy 2 жыл бұрын
That's because they're winging everything, they don't have a plan for the universe, i really really would like an explanation on why they got rid of the EU for this trash that they keep putting out
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan using a comically oversized coat as disguise Just genius
@Zuleva_Official
@Zuleva_Official 2 жыл бұрын
If you have played to the end of Jedi fallen order then you know that instead of that glass breaking a metal shutter would have kept the water from leaking in and it really disturbs me sometimes how inconsistent Star Wars is
@basedlegionary6877
@basedlegionary6877 2 жыл бұрын
Despite People saying Legends (pre-Disney) was inconsistent, it rly is more of a Canon Thing. Disneys Canon has more Retconns then Legends ever had and their Canon is only 8 Years old, lol.
@alfredlewis8476
@alfredlewis8476 2 жыл бұрын
The writers and world builders at respawn are doing a better job at star wars design than Lucasfilm
@Zuleva_Official
@Zuleva_Official 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfredlewis8476 The director of this show is not Jon Favreau and it really shows
@namelesscurse8940
@namelesscurse8940 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, most of the plot of kenobi seems somewhat familiar to jedi fallen order.
@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw
@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zuleva_Official Honestly Filoni and Favreau should be closely overseeing these series they're throwing out, the couple of eps Filoni and Favreau directed in Boba Fett showed how well they respect the IP and the stark contrast from the other, more mediocre directors and writers they just throw at these series just 'cause they're spin-offs
@lewiswilliams3347
@lewiswilliams3347 2 жыл бұрын
Feel bad for Hayden, the man is cursed when it comes to this series. It's not even his fault he just happened to be a part of some of the least competent Star Wars projects
@drandescancelled2825
@drandescancelled2825 2 жыл бұрын
You're telling me that rots was one of the least competent star wars projects?
@hazyworld8626
@hazyworld8626 2 жыл бұрын
ROTS had some problems but ehhh, I wouldn't call the least competent project , It works and it's watchable. That's it. Edit: well it's more watchable/enjoyable then all the disney star wars shows/movies made currently except Rogue One. What happened to those writers?
@lewiswilliams3347
@lewiswilliams3347 2 жыл бұрын
@@hazyworld8626 I think that most recent starwars content is incompetent but it's dumb to ignore how bad the prequels really are.
@lewiswilliams3347
@lewiswilliams3347 2 жыл бұрын
@@drandescancelled2825 yes.
@TheMasterUnity
@TheMasterUnity 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewiswilliams3347 I think the prequels are underrated tbh
@gabrielvalentin.28
@gabrielvalentin.28 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from the furure. The writers didn t even have the balls to kill Reva
@DarthVader-ky4qx
@DarthVader-ky4qx 2 жыл бұрын
but they had the balls to make a great fight betwenn obi and vader
@email1591
@email1591 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader-ky4qx It was mid at best.
@0Stalk0
@0Stalk0 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader-ky4qx a unnecessary fight scene*
@fatalshore5068
@fatalshore5068 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader-ky4qx one of those zero stakes fights. Much wow.
@TheScarletSlayer
@TheScarletSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader-ky4qx I am also in disagreement with your opinion good sir
@wigligigly3375
@wigligigly3375 2 жыл бұрын
It frustrates me that the entire show is literally just Kenobi bringing back Little Leia to her parents when that story could be told in like 2 episodes, they are just dragging it on like ‘argh the captured Leia a second time ㊗️🈹🈵🈲🈴㊙️🉐’ like thats meant to scare us. I would have much preferred to see Kenobi hiding and running from the Inquisitors to draw their attention away from Luke and would like kill some of them and the rest would run away. Also Maul and Kenobi in live action fighting would be legendary, unfortunately that doesn’t really fit in the timeline and would take away from their final duel in Rebels, but I have a sinking feeling that will happen. Also Reva hitting away the Rebel fighter bolts with one blade looked really stupid and would have been a perfect opportunity to use the spinning blade. My balls will explode
@0subsWith0vidsChallenge
@0subsWith0vidsChallenge 2 жыл бұрын
Like resident evil 4?
@SarkyBrit
@SarkyBrit 2 жыл бұрын
I think they're avoiding the spinny lightsabers, only seen them used once in a show basically revolving around them and Leia
@Birdstangg
@Birdstangg 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget we already have a "save the child" plot in The Mandalorian and The Bad Batch, its exhausting at this point tbh, but they obviously did it better than this.
@dogol284
@dogol284 2 жыл бұрын
I actually audibly chuckled at the chinese emojis
@hugar3499
@hugar3499 2 жыл бұрын
@@0subsWith0vidsChallenge Except re 4 was fun and didn't feel so bland
@hayhaydz
@hayhaydz 2 жыл бұрын
You can really feel the "Family friendly Disney" vibe forcing it's way in with this show. I get it Disney has a target audience and it's children but they don't have to make every show appeal that target audience...
@thisbubblygoodness7611
@thisbubblygoodness7611 2 жыл бұрын
i learned that the hard way with Book of Boba Fett. lets just say, i was hoping that Disney would actually try something NEW by have Boba Fett being an actual crime lord with moral ambiguity, but what do we get? Sheriff Boba and the Babe Rainbow Bikie Club...
@lizerdito
@lizerdito 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say the writing feels like a family show but thankfully the violence is on par with the Mandalorian with people getting chopped in half and limbs being cut off. It would make it a kids show if they removed the violence.
@ose4448
@ose4448 2 жыл бұрын
I think star wars as a whole should be taken to a more mature and gritty direction. Maybe I have just grown out of it, but even taking that into account they don't need to change everything. They could just make some shows targeted to adults and keep some for the whole family. Although they'll never do it since then their 10-15 year old core fanbase can't watch everything so they don't profit as much. Because after all it's mickey mouse we are dealing with and not a company with any kind of soul or passion.
@zdvxr
@zdvxr 2 жыл бұрын
This is ludicrous because we’ve gotten all this dismemberment and blood in Kenobi. Nothing like the other starwars content.
@hayhaydz
@hayhaydz 2 жыл бұрын
@@zdvxr your right somehow they managed to get so confused that the story conflicts with the visuals. they wrote a script that appeals to kids and filmed a series that includes random elements of obscenity
@Tyler-nh6oy
@Tyler-nh6oy 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Vader actually DOES extinguish the fire with his force, but it gets relit and then he just decides not to extinguish it again, despite having done so just seconds prior.
@elliottscheffler1752
@elliottscheffler1752 2 жыл бұрын
Or walk through it with his fireproof suit
@eatmybootyhole2231
@eatmybootyhole2231 2 жыл бұрын
Letting obi wan go knowing he made him suffer and fear him, he didn't say he will kill him he said he will make him suffer
@spookymaccarthy963
@spookymaccarthy963 2 жыл бұрын
@@eatmybootyhole2231 That's the problem, it's written in a way, that star wars fans need to debate over a finctional story, and every debate is based on guesses and interpretations. Some scenes feel awkward and sometimes silly, especially the chase one. Ep 4 was full of inconsistencies.
@oberonvortigern4138
@oberonvortigern4138 2 жыл бұрын
​@@eatmybootyhole2231 Then why did he almost kill Reva for letting him go? And forgave her because she put a tracker on Obi-Wan? It seems like he didn't want to let Obi-Wan get away and wanted to physically torture him more. Like, yes he didn't want to kill him but it seems counter-intuitive to let him go. Especially when the initial order he gave the trooper was to fetch him.
@frogsterlicous7040
@frogsterlicous7040 2 жыл бұрын
He could also walk through it, his suit is fire proof.
@Lunk42
@Lunk42 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Obi-Wan is essentially a side character in his own show. As much as I wanted to like this I just can't disney is so shit at making anything star wars I wish they'd somehow lose the rights to it. Also I hope you're right and Vader kills the sister.
@erikstrickland96
@erikstrickland96 2 жыл бұрын
I think back to the “final season” of clone wars too and it just hit me that we really got no last season, just two set ups for future spin-offs and a really good finale that was already planned out. They just keep doing this.
@gloriousbeard9054
@gloriousbeard9054 2 жыл бұрын
Big Spoilers: He kinda does but magically she appears on Tatooine, nearly kills a kid, then is like “oh nvm” and became good guy Fuckin Disney
@jacktait9849
@jacktait9849 2 жыл бұрын
@@gloriousbeard9054 Disney is so shit
@Doubl_Troubl
@Doubl_Troubl 2 жыл бұрын
You know how hilarious that would be if they lost the rights to it? They buy it, make a bunch of pretty crappy stuff or less than decent movies and shows, lose the rights to it, new buyers instantly make better Star Wars content
@ionbing2884
@ionbing2884 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doubl_Troubl I wouldn't count on it. I hate to break it to you, but the OT isn't as good as you remember and Rogue One is really the best thing to come of this whole overrated franchise. Move on.
@linnyunt
@linnyunt 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, your prediction of Reva's redemption was spot on.
@LilacStarbloom
@LilacStarbloom 2 жыл бұрын
I hated the Vader and Kenobi fight. The writers don’t seem to understand that they shouldn’t have fucking met; the first time they met since Mustafar was abord the Death Star, where Vader says “when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master.” With all the context, it makes it so much more of a meaningful scene, and with this show, they’ve pretty much fucking ruined that.
@mercamia
@mercamia 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, episode iv obi wan already knew vader is anakin, and having to face him again in death star without the ptsd haunting him would be weird in context
@LilacStarbloom
@LilacStarbloom 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercamia I’m not saying Kenobi shouldn’t have known Anakin was still alive, I’m saying they shouldn’t have met.
@lukeallen5714
@lukeallen5714 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it fully ruins it since Vader specifically says “when I left you” rather than “when we last met” or something like that. He’s saying “when I left your training” in episode IV rather than when they last interacted
@Verundanir
@Verundanir 2 жыл бұрын
You're spot on. I thought about that too. It's like they haven't even watched Star Wars. It's like me going and trying to tell a Buddhist Monk about Hinduism. I don't know jack about it, but he does; but who cares? It's my story now. Imma make it up as I go
@mercamia
@mercamia 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilacStarbloom nah, that thing already happened between the ending of episode 2 and 3 in the series, we already know how terrified he was seeing anakin in the suit for the first time
@SC2LuckyStrikes
@SC2LuckyStrikes 2 жыл бұрын
This should have been the easiest slam dunk in the history of television, but Disney just can't help themselves. The only person left alive capable of making decent Star Wars content is Dave Filoni
@dogol284
@dogol284 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Favreau has a love for the craft
@ogrimzyz8643
@ogrimzyz8643 2 жыл бұрын
And Favreau
@ljubomirjovanovic2666
@ljubomirjovanovic2666 2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of shocked Filoni isn't involved in this show. He's like, the logical go-to guy
@airstrike9002
@airstrike9002 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, the guy still has big flaws, like he can't stop himself from putting Ashoka in every fucking thing he directs
@MNGN101
@MNGN101 2 жыл бұрын
@@airstrike9002 I think he's only really interested in writing about Ahsoka and Mandalorians.
@cynicat74
@cynicat74 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the one instance of the "your boss sent me" trope that's justified, because Imperials are utterly shit-scared of both the Inquisitors, and Darth Vader. It's intended to be one of the biggest flaws of the Empire, that their fear of failure stops them taking risk, and working effectively. The Imperial Army is also designed by Palpatine to be incredibly decentralised, so their communication and co-ordination with each other is terrible.
@royalderg
@royalderg 2 жыл бұрын
Also it works even better because unlike what Pyro said the character doesn't say "I'll tell Darth Vader." they say "I'll tell the Grand Inquisitor." Which is the Third Sister, APPOINTED By Vader, and killed the last Grand Inquisitor so if you got on her bad side you'd be pissing off two birds with one stone. Both of those birds being very stabby stabby
@evanlight2550
@evanlight2550 2 жыл бұрын
And he literally works inside the headquarters of the Inquisitors so it’s not like he can just run and hide from them either (if they were to chase after him).
@trianglemoebius
@trianglemoebius 2 жыл бұрын
Just because it contextually works doesn't mean it's good. Pyro didn't even say it didn't work in-universe, he said the trope was so painfully generic it became stupid.
@cynicat74
@cynicat74 2 жыл бұрын
@@trianglemoebius There's a difference between contextual justification, and intentionally displaying the flaws of an enemy. It's said earlier in the episode that Fortress Inquisitorius' mere reputation is enough to deter attackers. They then later show us that this reputation is also a hindrance to the Empire, as well, as their own staff are too scared of their superiors to be willing to take enough risks to do their job effectively. It's demonstrating an earlier mentioned plot point, which means it has a place in the story beyond just being a trope.
@polalenluib.estrella51
@polalenluib.estrella51 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't really about the show itself, but Star Wars in general - I wish they'd explore more eras and character stories beyond the Skywalker Saga because I honestly feel like we've been stuck there too long. I'd love to see some films/shows set in the Old Republic or High Republic era. Cheers
@DuVious1
@DuVious1 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is lots of fans would love to see that but Disney believes it would be unprofitable to move from anything except the proven mold.
@kurogotbeats
@kurogotbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Nah jedi academy/outcast show would go crazy 😈
@seeker4696
@seeker4696 2 жыл бұрын
Old republic doesn't exist anymore, made disney look bad.
@siiir1322
@siiir1322 2 жыл бұрын
That would kill Star Wars. Look at the writing in kenobi and boba. What makes you believe the writing would get any better in a new story outside the Skywalker saga? The writing would be just as bad, but now they wouldnt even be able to rely on flashback scenes and Fan service. Half of the fanbase already hates the sequels and disney Star Wars, but now they would even lose those people that just love everything as Long as they get a 2 Minute Fan service scene per episode, no matter how Bad the episode was up until that Point
@callmeej8399
@callmeej8399 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an entire “galaxy” yet it feels as small as a neighborhood conflict
@ricknochefort4941
@ricknochefort4941 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Disney shill, always defending and deflecting, but now I've just given up...I hate star wars now, I hate marvel and now I work out and eat better...rn is the best time to fix yourself since the stuff that would distract you before is so unentertaining and garbage, you SHOULD be bored.
@giantcrabmonster
@giantcrabmonster 2 жыл бұрын
this really is the moment pyrocynical became heisenberg
@Mohmar2010
@Mohmar2010 2 жыл бұрын
Omg pyro noooo So sad Can we get 250k likes
@hafizrahman5079
@hafizrahman5079 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mohmar2010 this is so sad guys!!!11 1 like = 1 prayer for pyro Can we get 1 morbillion likes
@ohamatchhams
@ohamatchhams 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mohmar2010 So guys
@gulfcoastgaming6034
@gulfcoastgaming6034 2 жыл бұрын
Keep this in mind while you watch the show: Grand Inquisitor (who dies in episode 2) is in Rebels, which is set after Kenobi, and Third Sister doesn’t show up
@plebbers8799
@plebbers8799 2 жыл бұрын
Insert cr1tikal cheering
@grandarkfang_1482
@grandarkfang_1482 2 жыл бұрын
This is a certified Disney Star Wars moment.
@vke6077
@vke6077 2 жыл бұрын
apparently he doesn't die from the wound, according to wookiepedia...
@Phil_McCrackenツ
@Phil_McCrackenツ 2 жыл бұрын
Because god knows we need another character who dies but comes back to life.
@terminal9660
@terminal9660 2 жыл бұрын
He's also in the Jedi:Survivor trailer
@LuxZoltan
@LuxZoltan 2 жыл бұрын
I really really wanted this show to succeed We got Ewan and Hayden back I want scenes and memories of when they where friends and the conflict and maybe a battle where they talk more but both justify their believes Also I don't get why Obi Wan it's so weak and depressed I know they lost the battle but he is there to train Luke in the future and he can't even defend himself Also I remember in the original trilogy the star wars universe felt so huge, tatooine it's meant to be a desert planet that no one goes there, Old Obi Wan cut a alien arm in the canteen and use the force on the troopers because it's a desert in the middle of nowhere, no one would find out Now it's like the star wars universe it's so small and planets are just like villages that everybody knows what happen like More important things and characters has happen in Tatooine than Corussant let that sink in
@fjbz3737
@fjbz3737 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the key to a universe that feels ‘big’ is more than just how many planets you go to. It’s going further into the inner workings of the galaxy’s political structure, and how the way all of those different planets impact one another
@YTcommentburner
@YTcommentburner 2 жыл бұрын
Darth would've made a better antagonist choice. Coulda had nostalgia and fan service of Christensen and McGregor back together again as Kenobi reminisces of a glorious past while he spends the mini series in hiding and reconciling who Vader's become. Obi Wan then should realize that he's not going to change Vader's mind, and then enters a new hope - Luke. Anyway, Vader's always intimidating, compared to the Inquisitors whose only power is lightsaber helicopter (are helicopters canon?) flight...
@TheCosmere64
@TheCosmere64 2 жыл бұрын
The show will probably end with them thinking he is dead and so no more Jedi exist. Or y'know the original trilogy didn't have all of this backstory planned out at all lol
@jackrutledgegoembel5896
@jackrutledgegoembel5896 2 жыл бұрын
Tatooine needs to be excised from all future Star Wars media. it's such a boring shithole and they need to stop making it bizarrely important
@X-SPONGED
@X-SPONGED 2 жыл бұрын
The Obi Wan Show feels like a Videogame. Where The Main Character constantly needs to save a Damsel in Distress while learning His Powers throughout The Story. Basically, a Star Wars Themed Super Mario Game.
@johnwicksdog4399
@johnwicksdog4399 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely an Xbox game if we’re gonna go there
@pizzaman4385
@pizzaman4385 2 жыл бұрын
Litterly every original trilogy movie fits this catagory
@mattrunci
@mattrunci 2 жыл бұрын
Lol he actually called the third sisters betrayal
@Maura555-f9f
@Maura555-f9f 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... we have 2 episodes left?! I was wondering why people were so quick to jump the gun on the show, like I knew the show was bad but I just thought it had a slow beginning- but no were past the halfway point and nothing even remotely amazing has happened XD
@ea.fitz216
@ea.fitz216 2 жыл бұрын
We're most likely getting a season 2.
@kingrippzard2027
@kingrippzard2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@ea.fitz216 dark times indeed
@btep3515
@btep3515 2 жыл бұрын
pyro kinda addressed this but everyone in the galaxy knows what obi wan looks like but at the same time obi wan is walking casually with no hood or anything and nobody reports him
@michaeldownard278
@michaeldownard278 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree, expect your (eventual) car to be irish’d
@Toxic_Korgi
@Toxic_Korgi 2 жыл бұрын
Pyro truly is the modern day Margaret Thatcher.
@ultralm7250
@ultralm7250 2 жыл бұрын
Seethe, everything nu-Lucasfilms makes is shit
@ARG0T
@ARG0T 2 жыл бұрын
@@ultralm7250 Mandalorian has been pretty good, and Clone Wars Season 7 was great
@thesteelsquid863
@thesteelsquid863 2 жыл бұрын
@@ultralm7250 Jar-Jar is the key to all of this
@intensehumanbox9662
@intensehumanbox9662 2 жыл бұрын
I love how calling something mid nowadays is worse then just calling it bad which it technically shouldn't
@Kastafore
@Kastafore 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even a mediocre show, it's just bad. There's nothing about it worthy of praise.
@intensehumanbox9662
@intensehumanbox9662 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kastafore my comment was mostly overall in general
@NatsumiMovies
@NatsumiMovies 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kastafore ewan mcgregor's acting was great tho
@returnedtomonkey8886
@returnedtomonkey8886 2 жыл бұрын
Something that is absurdly bad can still be enjoy by some people. Something mid you just forget you saw 5 minutes after and you feel you wasted your time.
@pizzaman4385
@pizzaman4385 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the show is pretty good
@Radio_RatMan
@Radio_RatMan 2 жыл бұрын
Fully predicts the 3rd sister's whole story. Lmao
@OsirisFromScandinavia
@OsirisFromScandinavia 2 жыл бұрын
the show feels like a worse Mandalorian the main character tries to save/protect a child while being on the run from the bad guys literally the same story
@jaxonsevero1045
@jaxonsevero1045 2 жыл бұрын
That feels like every Star Wars Disney show so far
@shearman360
@shearman360 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxonsevero1045 where was the child in Book of Boba Fett
@sarosh451
@sarosh451 2 жыл бұрын
@@zogwort1522 I disagree. Although the Mandalorian had some mid and filler episodes, at the same time there were a lot of great episodes as well. Same can’t be said for Book of Boba and Obi-Wan so far.
@naranciagaming
@naranciagaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@shearman360 BoBF didn't have a plot revolving around protecting a small child but at the same time it was BoBF so
@maliziosoeperverso1697
@maliziosoeperverso1697 2 жыл бұрын
@@shearman360 It literally had the same fucking child as in The Mandalorian, what are you on about
@Mojavay
@Mojavay 2 жыл бұрын
also the conversation between Lana and Reva is so stupid, "Yo 3rd sister I found out where the rebel base is" Reva: "Thats cool, uNleSs yOu'Re lYiNg?" bruh wtf
@borger477
@borger477 2 жыл бұрын
They need to add Morbius as a crossover for the final episode.
@restoredtuna8264
@restoredtuna8264 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea: maybe they could have just gone to obi wan’s pre established lore and told the story of how he met ditches satine. The characters have such good chemistry that the show would just write itself it would be easy but they made this...
@dracojoule
@dracojoule 2 жыл бұрын
I actually thought Leia's acting was incredible for her age
@allthesmallthings1041
@allthesmallthings1041 2 жыл бұрын
It is, it’s the writing that’s bad
@johnwicksdog4399
@johnwicksdog4399 2 жыл бұрын
What the fuck were you watching ? It was terrible, annoying and kinda cringey !
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 жыл бұрын
It was cringe as FUCK
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a tweet complaining because Obi-Wan Kenobi kneeled to a female stormtrooper, going mad about how that would never happen. I felt like.. is that really the bad thing in the show you’re picking to criticise? Honestly? :’)
@shaynehughes6645
@shaynehughes6645 2 жыл бұрын
He is right tho
@agentdash8999
@agentdash8999 2 жыл бұрын
Female Stormtroopers don't exist tho, well, I've literally never seen one before
@dutbud9049
@dutbud9049 2 жыл бұрын
@@agentdash8999 Lucas always intended for there to be female stormtroopers. They've been canonized for a long time now.
@jimshotfirst4887
@jimshotfirst4887 2 жыл бұрын
@@agentdash8999 how do you know you've never seen one before? Literally anything could be under that mass-produced armor, and the majority of stormtroopers we've seen throughout star wars don't say anything
@jachymfoj
@jachymfoj 2 жыл бұрын
Well not only did Vader start the fire, but in the same scene we see him extinguish it, the blaster shot just starts it again and he somehow forgot he could just extinguish it again lmao
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow that’s even worse.
@TheCosmere64
@TheCosmere64 2 жыл бұрын
He's obviously letting him get away
@thechair371
@thechair371 2 жыл бұрын
Because he let him escape, Vader's battle with Kenobi was unsatisfying to Vader because of how weak Kenobi was and that the person he's wanted revenge on for so long is barely able to put up a fight. Vader wants his rematch with Kenobi to be a satisfying one where at the end he tortures Obi-Wan.
@rainiersauer4288
@rainiersauer4288 2 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that Vader's still traumatized by the burns he sustained.
@trevormcwilliams7578
@trevormcwilliams7578 2 жыл бұрын
Vader let's him get away? Really? And then Vader almost kills Reva for letting Kenobi get away? Sorry all, the writing is horribly inconsistent.
@TengenToppaSalyur
@TengenToppaSalyur 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, they got lazy, played Fallen Order, copied some plot points, and then submitted for script inspection that eventually gets green lit.
@Zonedoutallthetime
@Zonedoutallthetime 2 жыл бұрын
It's like they looked at the success of Rebels, Fallen Order, and Mandalorian, then decided to stitch plot elements together into a meaningless monstrosity.
@Alec_Reaper
@Alec_Reaper 2 жыл бұрын
Disney doesn't deserve to hold the rights to Star Wars
@DyingDarkStar
@DyingDarkStar 2 жыл бұрын
For real. After they got the rights they made the now old cannon (star wars Legends) to non, which i find is vastly superior then Disney's cannon.
@Alec_Reaper
@Alec_Reaper 2 жыл бұрын
@@DyingDarkStar The reason the old canon was superior was because it was fans making it. Disney keeps falling apart because they want to have a sellable franchise that's safe. Granted some legend stories was a bit wacky, they still had something special that Disney can't emulate.
@pizzaman4385
@pizzaman4385 2 жыл бұрын
I think that applies to only the sequels but stuff like obi wan, mandolorian, and book of boba is pretty good. They just need to make shows not movies
@vividkage5575
@vividkage5575 2 жыл бұрын
They should have followed the story from the original Kenobi legends story
@imperatornoinga3646
@imperatornoinga3646 2 жыл бұрын
How is Liea going to have a future if the empire knows she was in kahoots with Jedi terrorists from age 8?
@danny_boi5116
@danny_boi5116 2 жыл бұрын
It's worse than you think. Vader's suit is designed to stop fire. In the comics he literally walks through lava. WALK THROUGH THE FLAMES
@jockeyfield1954
@jockeyfield1954 2 жыл бұрын
this series should've taken the route of the darth vader comics and take advantage of telling any story it can that doesn't interfere with what we see on screen. like, the comics tell us that darth vader has force nightmares that feed him sith propoganda of what happens if he defects to the jedi again. that doesn't change anything we see on screen, but at the same time, it adds so much. why can't kenobi be like that?
@louilligm
@louilligm 2 жыл бұрын
Disney: *writes a terrible character* Audience: *Does not like the terrible character* Disney: “Gosh.. can y’all stop being so racist.”
@yuko2967
@yuko2967 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of how Disney put up a pride post on Twitter even though they cut out any lgbt scenes in films so they don’t loose money in China and other places
@chronica6457
@chronica6457 2 жыл бұрын
@@yuko2967 Also how they reduced Finn in the chinese poster for TFA
@redline841
@redline841 2 жыл бұрын
Well you see I am racist
@mkultravictim4927
@mkultravictim4927 2 жыл бұрын
I mean an actor being given a bad script doesn't justify star wars fans being racist
@StupidNSimplesns
@StupidNSimplesns 2 жыл бұрын
@@mkultravictim4927 yeah i dont get why some people seem to forget that some fans genuinely were actually racist
@thatns4758
@thatns4758 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see how most of the stuff Disney is doing with star wars is either bad or meh when it could have been so much better. Especially with so many new shows coming out i figure we have a serious case of quantity over quality in favour of earning lots of money with no regards of keeping the Franchise itself alive like it had been before their purchase
@TheOvald
@TheOvald 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't Ask Questions, Just Consume Product and Then Get Excited for Next Products"
@manguymanfellaman
@manguymanfellaman 2 жыл бұрын
Btw the "brothers and sisters" are called Inquisitors. They were also in Jedi: Fallen Order and were main bossfights in the game which was pretty cool.
@Epm1771
@Epm1771 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the second sister slapped
@vividkage5575
@vividkage5575 2 жыл бұрын
And the comics
@ArtoriasKnightoftheAbyss
@ArtoriasKnightoftheAbyss 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is when i watched the kenobi episodes up until now , the whole time something just feels "off", maybe im actually disappointed but dont want to admit it bc i wanna love it
@TheAlamore
@TheAlamore 2 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one. After the fiasco of Book of Boba Fett/The Mandalorian season 2.5, my whole family, who even think the sequal trilogy was alright, are starting to worry about the future of this series and are starting to turn away from it.
@allthesmallthings1041
@allthesmallthings1041 2 жыл бұрын
The show is only going to get worse
@exragamer_
@exragamer_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think my biggest problem with obi wan is the fact that Darth Vader and obi wan fight. It makes their encounter in a new hope seem so much less impactful. The last time they saw each other was when Vader was utterly humiliated and mutilated by his brother who leaves him to die, and his hate festers into a force beyond anger, unimaginable power. It's been 20 or 30 years since that happened, and now they finally meet again. All of that is gone. The way I would have done it would have had obi wan going on a journey to become a force ghost, like what Yoda had to do in that clone wars arc. Maybe he'd go to dagobah and fight Vader there in a hallucination like in empire, and the show would have clone wars flashbacks placed throughout like we thought they would. Obi wan would be going through a journey of self discoverance, he would learn peace, he would finally forgive himself for what happened, but he'd have to keep ignoring all these terrible things happening around him to keep luke safe. And he probably should have spent some more time on tatooine. All the while, this inquisitior who (presumably hates him because she was a youngling in order 66, which is the current theory while writing this) blames him for all her anger and loss. She too will go a journey, trying to find him and confront him. And because it's star wars, they have to battle at the end and obi wan has to kill her, going through some of the same emotions he did when he thought he killed anakin, but this time he makes sure that she doesn't come back. Maybe Reva could have served as a kind of manifestation of Vader in obi wan's mind, she could represent his failure with anakin and the Jedi order. Maybe along the way he'd meet cal kestis, serving as a parallel to who luke will become. Obviously it's too late for any of this to happen, but a series that focused more on the title character and what he is going through and how he has dealt with this trauma would have worked more that just another star wars series that didn't live up to years of development, promises, and hype. If you could change the series to better suit what it should have been, what would you change, add, or remove?
@xRolyJoel
@xRolyJoel 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what the show should have been, instead of the soft adventure and rescuing Leia for 6 hours
@LeonardoMartinez-ge2qn
@LeonardoMartinez-ge2qn 2 жыл бұрын
They are slowly killing the franchise
@glasslaughter824
@glasslaughter824 2 жыл бұрын
One scene I thought had alot of potential was when stormtroopers got into the back of the truck thing and they were talking. I would have like it of they had fleshed out these characters made and show people in the empire that aren't evil, they just have a job or something.
@DorritoFries
@DorritoFries 2 жыл бұрын
The Mandalorian season 2 did a pretty good job at making the stormtroopers seem more “human”, but it seems we are back to generic bad guys.
@bigroaststyrone8135
@bigroaststyrone8135 2 жыл бұрын
Star Wars has always skirted around the ethical extermination of stormtroopers, that’s why they wear helmets. I think humanizing the stormtroopers could work well if done right and it wouldn’t necessarily make the heroes reprehensible for killing them (it is war after all) it can just bring up some interesting moral questions and themes
@MrBryan-hr1rp
@MrBryan-hr1rp 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I live in a timeline where a Disney show about gay witches is more enjoyable to watch than Obi fucking Wan Kenobi, 2022 literally shaping up to be the year of disappointments
@greyzoneeee
@greyzoneeee 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else thinks Eleven's acting skills evolved backwards
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 2 жыл бұрын
They don't try anymore, they are kids with more money we will ever see
@xxzozanxx6661
@xxzozanxx6661 2 жыл бұрын
Eleven?
@logan90141
@logan90141 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxzozanxx6661 yeah, from Stranger Things
@lewiswilliams3347
@lewiswilliams3347 2 жыл бұрын
@@R-SXX I think Sadie sink was pretty good but yeah the rest of them were kind of bad.
@emnersonn
@emnersonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewiswilliams3347 so true sadie sink carries
@rayndown
@rayndown 2 жыл бұрын
god I am LOVING this new channel. So much new content
@plebbers8799
@plebbers8799 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god these bots are providing more content!
@vinylwubs6987
@vinylwubs6987 2 жыл бұрын
leia's actor manages to capture carrie's sass from episode 4 pretty well, the inquisitors are mostly broken messes of jedi anyway, and didnt obi wan sneak around without a storm trooper disguise in a new hope? when he was disabling the tractor beams? but yes i got annoyed when obi wan fiddled with the laser gate instead of going around it.
@baconbellypig826
@baconbellypig826 2 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been hilarious if, after killing the storm troopers, obi wan just walks right around the gate without hesitation
@grotn_
@grotn_ 2 жыл бұрын
Only bad part about episode 4 was when they attempted to walk out with that disguise. Everything else was fine to me tbh. The real villain is episode 3, god that was terrible .
@vinylwubs6987
@vinylwubs6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@grotn_ i agree the disguse was pretty shoddy XD but like my star wars enjoying brain excused it as OH THEYRE ALL PANICKING AND ALARMS ARE GOING OFF sort of thing. i take massive amounts of copium
@baconbellypig826
@baconbellypig826 2 жыл бұрын
@@grotn_ One thing that really took me out of it was Reva saying “I hOpE YoU LiKE pAiN!” before sending leia off to get tortured. I mean that’s the joke threat a 12 year old would say because they couldn’t think of anything actually clever. That line is so generic, I’m pretty sure “ouch time!” would’ve had a more dramatic effect than that
@vinylwubs6987
@vinylwubs6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@baconbellypig826 "it's ouchin' time"
@ruvivenati8502
@ruvivenati8502 2 жыл бұрын
Pyro's assumption of Reva's arc was better than what actually happened in the final episode. Kids are literally the fastest creatures in the show.
@hereandthere8157
@hereandthere8157 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I was thinking the SAME THING! I just have this innate gut feeling that she will turn good at the end like a twist. Maybe she is trying to climb ranking to get a better position on getting revenge on the empire for taking her in as a young Jedi. I don’t know, but something tells me she will not be the bag guy for the whole show.
@AdriansLasmanis
@AdriansLasmanis 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad that you were right
@Koelacanth-t8y
@Koelacanth-t8y 2 жыл бұрын
3:47 the funniest thing is that Vader does extinguish the fire beforehand then the person saving Kenobi relights it and then Vader doesn’t do anything
@todd3143
@todd3143 2 жыл бұрын
no, but if in episode 5, mando walks in and says its mando time and he shoots everyone with a blaster
@RetroCiri
@RetroCiri 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with Pyro. I was defending the show for the three episodes and I was trying so hard to give it a chance by explaining why they did things they did, but welp. Also another thing that you didn't mention is the music score, which is pretty underwhelming, it had chances where they could use the memorable themes (I mean, come on, not using Imperial March for Darth Vader is just... bruh), but instead it's really forgettable and not that interesting, at least to me.
@sodagirl1092
@sodagirl1092 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan: I need to protect Luke at all costs and remain on Tattooine, even if it costs me my own sanity and life. Also Obi-Wan: lmao anyway, im off to the other side of the fucking galaxy.
@jamezzz0035
@jamezzz0035 2 жыл бұрын
In *A new Hope,* Princess Leia shot a Stormtrooper and runaway… then another Stormtrooper stunned her…
@Leo-ic7zi
@Leo-ic7zi 2 жыл бұрын
4:56 BRO! with episode 5 out LOOKS LIKE THATS EXACTLY WHATS GNA HAPPEN
@JayTraversJT
@JayTraversJT 2 жыл бұрын
For starters, A New Hope. Clearly never written with Obi Wan and Leia's past relationship in mind, we all know that. Leia's message to Obi Wan is so obviously spoken without the intent of knowing one another. The dialogue just becomes weird and invaluable once trying to form a connection between the two plots. What about the fact luke using the name "Ben, Ben Kenobi and Obi Wan Kenobi" in front of her not form any reaction? How about when Obi wan literally dies? Its only been 10 years. She doesn't give a damn. Luke is the only one in the crew to show any negative emotion at his loss. Furthermore, the fight between Vader and obi wan has its dialogue also loose all weight it previously bared. I mean "I was the learner, now I am the master!"... C'mon! Yes, you could reconnect it to work for this new plot but it no longer holds the same power it once did. On top of this, have you seen rogue one recently? Bail organa literally says the lines- "He served me well in the clone wars" "He's lived in hiding since the emperors purge" This is to Mon Mothma! The dialogue just doesn't work. Hell, even in rebels (a show created by one of obi wans producers dave filoni) has leia never telling ghost team of obi wan. Why? I had someone tell me a while back that they'd have obi wan wipe her mind with the free drugs he got... um WHAT? You mean the illicit unknown street drug? He's going to give that to a young child? At what point do star wars fans take a step back and realize you can only rationalise so much. Hell, the fact you’re using a "wipe her mind" story tells me it shouldn't exist to begin with. Also, I know some rationalisation can be made as to why Reva knows Vaders identity - sure. It's a death sentence... but sure. But something I see no one talk about is how tf did she know Leia was his daughter? And if she didn't, how did she seriously connect the dots as to believe Obi Wan would randomly respond to help rescue her? Just because he has some connection to Bail? I mean really? That's it? Christ, its either horribly dumb as to how she has this knowledge or an extremely sloppy and weak coincidence with very little believability. Its just sloppy to the point it’s depressing. Hell, whilst the writing is abhorrent, it's juts bad tv in general imo. So much of it is just mid tier content. And with the assumed budget it had, the name it has and the characters it has - we shouldn't be willing to except mediocre or worse content.
@brendanlash5859
@brendanlash5859 2 жыл бұрын
People are really forgetting that having Obi-Wan and Vader fight again to begin with fucks up the original trilogy. Vader literally says “When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master.” This is upheld by the prequels since they fight when Anakin just became Darth Vader. But having Vader fight him now and beat him makes that line nonsensical. Clearly Vader is the master at that point. The show is so poorly written
@nintaku4282
@nintaku4282 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it convenient how in episode 2 Obi-Wan meets that random girl in a huge crowd, who just so happens to give him a gas drug thing that is absolutely essential to him escaping the mercenaries later in the episode? Isn't it ridiculously stupid that Bail Organa thinks it's a better idea to get Obi-Wan to rescue his daughter rather than hiring bounty hunters, when doing so would not only endanger Obi-Wan and put the empire potentially on his trail, but also compromise Bail as a Jedi sympathizer in the Imperial senate? They know Leia is Bail's daughter! Isn't it stupid that Obi-Wan has had supposedly no use or practice in the force, when at the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda gives him a new assignment to begin communing with Qui-Gon and learn how to become a force ghost. Isn't it convenient how in episode 1 Reva suspects Owen knows something about a Jedi, but doesn't just use her abilities to pull the information from his head? Is it too late for George to come back?
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510 2 жыл бұрын
This show plays out like a direct and intentional character assassination; he is, incompetent, unintelligent, cowardly, impotent, and he is emasculated at every, single, turn. This is parody-levels or character destruction. The people who wrote this show are a disgrace to the pen itself.
@gloriousbeard9054
@gloriousbeard9054 2 жыл бұрын
I get Obi-Wan is recovering his abilities and all, and on his first encounter with Darth he’s shaken up, but he was such a wimpy little bitch the entire time it was awful, lol. Seriously, dude did a “Benny hill” chase scene through the gravel mounds and got burned, Vader forced away the fire, it got lit again, and suddenly Vader loses all ability to get to him. Man they butchered Kenobo, he deserved better.
@gloriousbeard9054
@gloriousbeard9054 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao kenobo, I meant Kenobi.
@creapfactor7060
@creapfactor7060 2 жыл бұрын
I like it so far. The stuff with Leia getting chased and the villains suddenly losing all their brain cells is stupid.
@coldfire2753
@coldfire2753 2 жыл бұрын
What's to like?
@vaginbob5153
@vaginbob5153 2 жыл бұрын
only thing that is good about is obi-wan and vader, everything else is ass the grand inquisitor could've been a good villain but writing is terrible and got one tapped lol it was so dumb.
@dutbud9049
@dutbud9049 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaginbob5153 You should watch Rebels, then.
@vaginbob5153
@vaginbob5153 2 жыл бұрын
@@dutbud9049 I wanna watch obi-wan with good writing and it be about obi-wan.
@StupidNSimplesns
@StupidNSimplesns 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think its bad, I'm enjoying it. But it really feels like they're wasting the potential of this show. They haven't spent nearly enough time focusing on the relationship between Vader/Anakin and Obi-Wan. They've been focusing too much on Reva and young Leia. I get that they needed a way to get Vader and Obi-Wan interacting, but there's just too much focus on two characters that don't need it. There's still two episodes left but I feel like they can't do all they need to in those two episodes. I hope there's a second season to really give it some room to grow.
@aylinilya.
@aylinilya. 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’ve said it best, this show really needed more episodes and/or another season, just like bobf
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon 2 жыл бұрын
It's just silly. Pre Disney had Obi Wan remaining on Tatooine to protect Luke, rarely doing anything other than: watching him from afar, or protecting him and his family in subtler ways. The show's premise simply contradicts the established character; you cannot commit to exile while also leaving the planet to get Leia and fight Vader.
@rikinpatel9181
@rikinpatel9181 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 spot on for episode 5 :')
@Hirohitorunguard
@Hirohitorunguard 2 жыл бұрын
As Obi wan makes his escape with Leia he feels a familiar presence. He stumbles to the ground. Darth vader marches forward as inquisitors, officers and troopers line up. He pulls a villager close with the force, instantly reads their mind and learns that obi wan is here, then snaps their neck and throws them with the force. Obi wan notices and flees the vicinity. Vader takes chase. Obi wan manages to get to a ship and start it, then Leia asks who the scary man was, and obi wan pauses for a moment as he swallows harshly. "He's an old aquaintence...". Vader catches up as Obi wans ship is about to take off. Vader senses obi wans presence and grows furious and starts pulling apart buildings and flinging crates before finally grabbing the ship taking off trying to smash it into the ground. Leia is terrified as obi wan desperately mashes the controls trying to thrust out of Vader's grip. Eventually obi wans ship starts descending slowly, and Leia screams loudly and unleashes a sudden force pulse, breaking Vader's grip out of surprise. Vader stares at the ship now escaping with his lightsaber lit and grows furious; he starts to aimlessly fling everything around him into walls and other objects. Eventually some troopers and an officer come to report that they arrested some rebels to vader, and vader instantly force chokes the officer "ITS KENOBI I WANT, GIVE ME KENOBI!" before throwing them all into the wall. Reva watches Vader's tantrum and feels such immense hatred that she becomes nauseous. Vader screams "OBI WAN!" cut to Obi wan feeling the sheer hatred even as he leaves the planet - "No, no, NO" obi wan shouts. "He was dead, i killed him, i saw him burn" obi wan anxiously shouts. It cuts to a flashback of Anakin screaming "i hate you" as obi wan gets a panic attack. Obi wan looks at his lightsaber and reluctantly realizes that he has to relearn his old skills, knowing that Anakin is still alive...
@Hirohitorunguard
@Hirohitorunguard 2 жыл бұрын
How come I can think of a better scenario than professionals
@pyro314
@pyro314 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hirohitorunguard because the writers aren't Star Wars fans they just want a paycheck not knowing anything about the Star Wars lore and audience same with Halo tv show
@Sean-Ax
@Sean-Ax 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the idea with the forest chase scene is that Leia spends practically all of her time escaping there that she knows it inside and out and is smaller than the assassins and should be able to escape them by accessing tight areas of the forest. If that was the intention, they certainly didn't convey it very well visually because they jog along open paths and areas that give the impression of a highly frequented hiking trail rather than a dense forest.
@tillson8686
@tillson8686 2 жыл бұрын
4:56 Turns out he was right. Not exactly on point but he had the right feeling about her. Good instincts there, I personally didn't see it coming!
@Mojavay
@Mojavay 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 Everything is right so far except darth vader killing her, not sure why
@dragonchannek4843
@dragonchannek4843 2 жыл бұрын
it might be because he dosen't consider her a threat, like he don't respect her and he don't care, when he "fought" her he didn't even used HIS lightsaber
@Mojavay
@Mojavay 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonchannek4843 I mean he should know from experience why that is a bad idea
@PseudoNym13
@PseudoNym13 2 жыл бұрын
The shaky cam during the combat is atrocious and the only good choreography is the flashback scene of young(old) anakin and kenobi
@Turtelshels
@Turtelshels 2 жыл бұрын
4:50 he legit predicted the 5th episode
@mernferd6449
@mernferd6449 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing I like about Kenobi. The superficial representation of PTSD, the formulaic plot every episode, how inconsistent the "gore" or how graphic it is, Reva is just annoying (I get we're not supposed to like her but god damn), everything with Leia was boring and goofy (goofy can be fine but they were trying to play it off like its serious), etc. I'm done giving it chances
@ThomasThePanzerTank
@ThomasThePanzerTank 2 жыл бұрын
I think the response to Reva criticism is the sequel trilogy all over again. “You hate Rey because you hate women.” No there’s legitimate concerns that can’t be whittled down to bias. “You hate Reva because she’s black.” No…she’s just not very well written, choreographed or acted? Star Wars has a place for everyone and nobody should feel excluded, but that doesn’t mean they should be free of criticism because of their race, sexuality or gender. Speaking of that I think it’s a little bit ironic that Disney of all companies is shaming racism while censoring their black, gay and any character who fits the background from any group with systematic prejudice against them in other countries.
@redline841
@redline841 2 жыл бұрын
I do hate those two characters for being a woman and a black person respectively, however to not meme the writing staff is absolutely fucked up beyond repair. Honestly I think the staff has been fucked since 2013, and the only way to salvage this shit is to purge the company or wait for this to die out
@ScarletEdge
@ScarletEdge 2 жыл бұрын
I think more they pull their racist/bigoted cards the less impact these actions will have in the future. I sense that general trend is now to just stop caring what Disney responses are. I mean how many times can we be stupid and play social ping-pong with them. Everybody and their dog knows that Disney only cares for bottom line.
@depresespres4214
@depresespres4214 2 жыл бұрын
No she is well acted, absolutely. She’s rash, impulsive, selfish and annoying, which means the actor is doing a great job. You know what other character was rash, impulsive, selfish and annoying? Anakin fucking Skywalker lol
@depresespres4214
@depresespres4214 2 жыл бұрын
@@redline841 you just disproved their entire point 💀💀💀💀
@Verundanir
@Verundanir 2 жыл бұрын
No one hates her for being black bruh. Everyone loves Windu. Haven't heard a single person say they didn't like Windu
@ethanjolly9732
@ethanjolly9732 2 жыл бұрын
Broooo in 5:00 u literally predicted the 5th episodes ending thats insane
@MarioOnLoud
@MarioOnLoud 2 жыл бұрын
Bro predicted episode 5 almost perfectly
@Redhoodepicgamer
@Redhoodepicgamer 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 you predicted episode 5
@ThatCaliana
@ThatCaliana 2 жыл бұрын
Those mercenaries in the first episode are failing QTE like it’s heavy rain or Detroit become human
@TK0S3
@TK0S3 2 жыл бұрын
4:56 You know a show is bad when you can predict this.
@kapkant6197
@kapkant6197 2 жыл бұрын
Me after the level 1000 Obi-Wan kills me for the 10th time that round on Battlefront 2
@Dimas5
@Dimas5 2 жыл бұрын
Vader didn’t start the fire with the force. He ignited some flammable stuff with his lightsaber
@retro_groovin
@retro_groovin 2 жыл бұрын
My 7 gripes with the last episode- 1. Obi-Wan, force pushes a random object while in the vents to avoid detection. My question was how would he know he didn't shove anything explosive or deadly? Did his force just sense the object and he thought, "ah yes. This is big enough to make a noise." 2. That whole bit about them escaping and being caught by the sister was so dumb. The empire has strict uniform guidelines (note how not a single officer there had facial hair or hair that covered the back of the neck?) and the dead body they looted was clearly an officer of high class to warrant 0 suspicion, so it seemed really silly to me. 3. Purge troopers being put on display to do absolutely nothing. They're supposed to be jedi killers but we see one die via water submerging and another one briefly after the speeders destroy the hangar. It felt so off-putting and made the empire look clueless and clunky. Rogue One did it fantastically well with the death troopers. You don't take a supposed "elite" unit and make them die the same as all the other grunts, it just looks bad, and makes the tension nonexistent. 4. Wade was the pilot and iirc he was against going to the base when Obi-Wan proposed the idea to everyone. I think they're the same people who rescue them at the end - but it's just so poorly done. 5. Obi-Wan clubbed that stormtrooper on the left side of the room. Made the saber look very ineffective and more like a laser bat if anything. 6. The stormtroopers consistently firing at Obi-Wans lightsaber even though they saw that it would just deflect back and kill them anyways. You'd figure the troopers would go for the legs to immobilize Kenobi but no, single file line, all deflected effortlessly by Kenobi. 7. The whole "counter-spy" argument between the sister and the rebel spy was silly to me. That and the fact that she's told to be escorted to interrogation, breaks free just as the sister leaves, and fires off a blaster to kill a trooper. But the sister didn't stop to turn around. So she chose to ignore it or she's hard of hearing.
@viktor1337w
@viktor1337w 2 жыл бұрын
Part 7 also made no sense. Like i told my dad ive she turned around the spy would have died
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