Objections to the Voice to Parliament | Triggernometry Podcast

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John Anderson Media

John Anderson Media

Жыл бұрын

This clip is from John's recent appearance on the triggernometry podcast with Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin. John gives three reasons why he does not support the Voice to Parliament.
Konstantin Kisin is a writer, social commentator, co-host of TRIGGERnometry and comedian. He is a regular on British and American TV and radio shows including Question Time, Good Morning Britain, BBC Breakfast, Daily Politics, LBC Cross Question, Tucker Carlson, the Megyn Kelly Show and many others.
Konstantin has written for publications including the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator, Tablet Magazine, Quillette, Standpoint as well as his first book, An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West.
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@woodsmen9844
@woodsmen9844 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for raising this, John. Vote NO.
@dodgeboy9052
@dodgeboy9052 Жыл бұрын
If the YES vote gets up.... Australia will be a Dictatorship... would you like to live in a Labour Dictatorship...
@wyattfamily8997
@wyattfamily8997 Жыл бұрын
The Australian Human Rights Commission ( definition of Racism),: "Racism is the process by which systems and policies, actions and attitudes, create inequitable opportunities for people, based on race." This could also effictively be the definition for the "voice".
@DavidPeaceOneLove
@DavidPeaceOneLove Жыл бұрын
Complaints about the incumbent government's racist regime should be directed to the AHRC! What a merrygoround that would be or perhaps a revolving door would be more apt
@DernRern
@DernRern Жыл бұрын
"The voice" pffft i hate that karaoke BS nonsense show
@123uzuz
@123uzuz Жыл бұрын
Vote no to apartheid. One Australia, one people.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true bigot. Apartheid. You are utterly unaware of irony.
@beepbeep6861
@beepbeep6861 Жыл бұрын
This country was founded on racism, just like any other country.
@thelamington8195
@thelamington8195 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, John. It’s a No vote from me.
@henryjames5663
@henryjames5663 Жыл бұрын
England looks nice !!
@johnmurray8267
@johnmurray8267 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly Said John ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@rogerthat487
@rogerthat487 Жыл бұрын
John Anderson's retirement was a massive b;ow to the civility IQ and competence of the Australian Parliament
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 Жыл бұрын
They want home owners to "Pay the Rent". Search that term. Basically they want Aussie home owners to pay a weekly rent.
@johnp9975
@johnp9975 Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@DavidPeaceOneLove
@DavidPeaceOneLove Жыл бұрын
Cogent clarity! Thankyou John Anderson! Why vote NO: 1. Voice has No agency to represent diversity of aboriginal nations. 2. Emotionally charged divisive proposal 3. Nation's constitution should not single out anyone based on race, creed, cultural background.
@rodneymarsden3003
@rodneymarsden3003 Жыл бұрын
The frightening part is that the Voice cannot be defined. There are those who have asked for the Voice to be defined in parliament but without adequate result.
@mindwarp4818
@mindwarp4818 Жыл бұрын
I also heard raised they will work out the details after the referendum, which seems like a dangerous way to go. I can’t recall to cite here where, but I think was a recording on a YT video some time ago of the people proposing it.
@tovsteh
@tovsteh Жыл бұрын
Just like anything woke these days. Completely based on people's feelings and nobody can explain how anything is supposed to work or even define their own standpoints.
@anthonycarr7466
@anthonycarr7466 Жыл бұрын
@@mindwarp4818 Parliament will debate and then decide on the details such as how many members, how often they will meet etc. And this is in line with any other referenda that has succeeded in the past.
@mindwarp4818
@mindwarp4818 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonycarr7466 it’s Pandora’s box, it’s one thing with the voice getting passed and I’m not totally against that but there is no detail as to what and how it’s administrated or what enforceable controls they have in parliament Do you really want a non elected committee to make decisions, make the rules up, potentially overriding elected senators/parliamentary vote with no consequences for the outcomes they produce hard written in to the constitution. For me it’s not just yes or no, we the people have to know what that vote means for every citizen.
@lynmews2856
@lynmews2856 Жыл бұрын
You just are not listening !
@jeremyspencer1505
@jeremyspencer1505 Жыл бұрын
One person One vote One representation You can’t get fairer than that And that is what we already have in Australia. Putting in race lessen the document for all. It’s a no for me.
@bradcavanagh3092
@bradcavanagh3092 Жыл бұрын
The most puzzling thing is that "one person, one vote" is meant to be a core tenet of the Labor party, which is why it's always wanted to abolish upper houses of parliament like it did in Queensland.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
According to you It's one person per vote for 120 years. Then everything then must be OK. There's obviously no dysfunction with your logic.
@jeremyspencer1505
@jeremyspencer1505 Жыл бұрын
@@banta-pd8zj No of course there are problems. The constitution is just the wrong mechanism.
@johnwoodward1873
@johnwoodward1873 Жыл бұрын
As had already been said, the treaty in New Zealand started off as 'just an advisory board', but now after the court cases it influences and controls EVERY aspect of New Zealand life for the benefit of the Maori. A county divide by race.
@AlexSmith-gr4hp
@AlexSmith-gr4hp Жыл бұрын
You can also look at Malaysia, Fiji, Zimbabwe, South Africa and indeed USA for countries where special provisions based on race have lead to diviseness and disenfranchisement of the people bringing the most prosperity to the countries.
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexSmith-gr4hp For a start, there is no reference to race, colour or creed in the US constitution.
@jenniferharrison8915
@jenniferharrison8915 Жыл бұрын
New Zealand will undoubtedly suffer as a nation because of their decision! It is definitely no longer the affordable and peaceful oudoor space destination for overseas migrants or visitors any more! The whole economy could be destroyed by the increasingly violent disputes and strong majority Maori rule! 🧐
@AlexSmith-gr4hp
@AlexSmith-gr4hp Жыл бұрын
@@somethingelse9535 there are numerous race based policies within the USA that occur at the state or city level, or outside of government at corporation and university levels. Examples: race based criteria for medical treatments or university admissions. Often the most affected are people of various Asian backgrounds such as Chinese or Indian. I have no criticism of the USA based on its foundational documents, more on the creeping and increasing examples of race based criteria for inequality across its broader society. It’s obviously a very diverse country with a wide variety of policies reflecting its unification of many states built into the name. Some places I’m sure are not as divisive, but undoubtedly many others are.
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexSmith-gr4hp They are laws that can be changed, as opposed to the constitution, that needs a national referendum to alter. Its a really dumb idea to enshrine race advantage in a constitution, it makes racism permanent.
@mahls93
@mahls93 Жыл бұрын
Still serving your country John. Very grateful for that. Thank you.
@DavidPeaceOneLove
@DavidPeaceOneLove Жыл бұрын
A true patriot!
@mzungu4770
@mzungu4770 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Especially your comments on equality.
@richardlove4287
@richardlove4287 Жыл бұрын
Big NO from me….I don’t need an unelected overlord that we can’t get rid of dictating to me and mine.
@malcolmmcgrath9344
@malcolmmcgrath9344 Жыл бұрын
I do not want a Caucasian Voice, or an African Voice. or an Asian Voice, a Catholic Voice, a Jewish Voice, or an Indigenous Voice to Parliament. The Government's job is to represent the interests of the people, I say to the Government, "do your job, do not abrogate that job to some council or other". Vote No.
@danrobinson8380
@danrobinson8380 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. Couldn't have articulated it better. Unfortunately it seems we have an activist, rather than a statesman, for a Prime Minister. Can't see it leading anywhere good.
@henryjames5663
@henryjames5663 Жыл бұрын
You must be an immigrant to Australia, what was wrong from whence you came !!
@sharongoodsell9341
@sharongoodsell9341 Жыл бұрын
​@@henryjames5663multi cultural madness
@cohort075
@cohort075 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@henryjames5663 What defines an immigrant? Someone who arrived yesterday? 10 years ago, 100 years ago, 30-60,000 years ago? I was taught in primary school back in the 60s, that successive waves of aboriginal people migrating to the Australian continent, forcefully pushing the aboriginal people already here before them further south, and west, as different groups made their way to this continent. Since man started to walk this earth, we have been migrating, and it will never stop. So! What defines an immigrant?
@margaretarmstrong2445
@margaretarmstrong2445 Жыл бұрын
​@@cohort075Well said!
@JohnWilliams-iw6oq
@JohnWilliams-iw6oq Жыл бұрын
Well said John, I can't see this working on any level let alone improving quality of life in indigenous communities. I will vote no and I tell family and friends why.
@fhugheveleigh2
@fhugheveleigh2 Жыл бұрын
When there is any doubt - vote NO. Anderson knows his facts or in this case that there are few if any facts relating to the Voice. All Australians should be enrirely equal under the Crown.
@anthonycarr7466
@anthonycarr7466 Жыл бұрын
That’s what Captain Phillip said after also saying that Australia was ‘terra nullius’!
@Pine_Gap_Island
@Pine_Gap_Island Жыл бұрын
Even though I am leaning towards voting 'yes' (see my comment elsewhere as to why), I completely agree with this logic. While I believe it is the civic duty if every voting citizen to make a decent attempt to understand what the proposal means, and both the arguments 'for' and 'against', as a matter of principle, if a voter still is unsure as to whether to change the Constitution or unsure on the nature of the question, I believe they are morally obliged to vote 'no'. There is onus on the proponents of the referendum to humbly and respectfully provide a compelling case to the voting citizens of Australia. And compelling based on the merits of the proposal, not some emotionally charged white guilt virtue signalling that is not grounded in compelling moral argument.
@dodgeboy9052
@dodgeboy9052 Жыл бұрын
If the YES vote gets up.... Australia will be a Dictatorship... would you like to live in a Labour Dictatorship...
@lynmews2856
@lynmews2856 Жыл бұрын
I just think that this issue is being overthought by the usual fear mongering cohorts. I guarantee that if the LNP had been on board and didn't treat it like a political football there would not be such a divide. The thing is that Aboriginals have really NOT been treated equally at anytime in our 200 odd years of European history. Things are better in individual circumstances now but overall there is a divide and a lack of understanding and consideration of the Aboriginal thinking and how THEY need policies and decisions to be enacted to help them walk with US. The current regimes simply haven't been working! It's a disgrace! Voting YES is a reasonable thing to do to God's sake! I recall all the rubbish spoken associated with the MABO case . All a smoke screen and thank goodness it went through.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Жыл бұрын
Should say about the voice to the government bodies which is the legal danger! Also yes is the racist vote! Vote NO to apartheid!
@michaelstewart8098
@michaelstewart8098 Жыл бұрын
So very well said
@platypups
@platypups Жыл бұрын
"The very model of equality is to make sure no one is singled out" - brilliant. And the debate has been insanely emotionally charged, to the point where I do wonder if we'll be faced with enormous riots and protests if the Voice doesn't succeed.
@mattmcguire1577
@mattmcguire1577 Жыл бұрын
There may be some recreational rioting like there was during covid. But it will be short and only harm their cause.
@lynmews2856
@lynmews2856 Жыл бұрын
Your statement makes little sense! The whole point is that there has been NO equality when it comes to the Aboriginals in this country. Take the time to read the history of European take over of the country. Whilst the British Govt directed that there was to be no killing or harmi g of the indigenous people there was no way this was able to be implemented being 12,000 miles away from Britain, How could there be equality when the people living here had nowhere to successfully move to as their land was taken and possessed and fenced etc etc. This has gone on from day one. After the WWars there was NO equality for the returned servicemen Aboriginal. Since 1930' s William Cooper tried and tried to,persuade the govts of the daybto listen to his people, to be included, to have a fair go etc, And so,it goes and still the same negativity is being peddled by the ignorance and the racial discrimination. It is time to say YES and let the Aboriginals be listened to from their communities! It won't hurt anybody, What is there to be somfearful of. After the debacle of the previous corrupt LNP govt it couldn't be worse
@kevinclarke68
@kevinclarke68 10 ай бұрын
Civil war I hope not but a chance
@kevinclarke68
@kevinclarke68 10 ай бұрын
​@@lynmews2856you obviously haven't heard what THOMAS MAYO or KEELY REid have been promoting
@soundknight
@soundknight Жыл бұрын
I've been saying this since the voice'first came on the news. I was looking at it through the lens of Magna Carta you'll see if the king could divide any of his subjects then he would have leverage points to then create a fresh wall every time these people who were pushing for such things for really have no understanding of not just English history but history in general
@nickhanlon9331
@nickhanlon9331 Жыл бұрын
Aborigines are Australians like the rest of us. They vote and they pay taxes. I have met an Aborigine who sat in the Federal Parliament so I can't see why they need extra representation unless they want to pay twice the tax that the rest of us do.
@MissGold888
@MissGold888 10 ай бұрын
Um. They don’t pay taxes.
@ThomasLouttit
@ThomasLouttit Жыл бұрын
Today, 'Equality' is being replaced with 'Equity', which does not necessarily mean 'Equality'. Under 'Equality' everyone gets an equal share of the 'Pie'. Under 'Equity', the disadvantaged get a bigger share of the 'Pie' to compensate for their disadvantage.
@46I37
@46I37 Жыл бұрын
The voice is about creating a Billion Dollar Bureaucracy for consultants to feed at with a few crumbs falling off the table.
@garrywynne1218
@garrywynne1218 Жыл бұрын
💯 and 80
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Evidence please.
@pokinacha
@pokinacha Жыл бұрын
The indigenous ‘nations’ are not nations at all. They’re tribes. Nomadic tribes across a vast continent that rarely integrated with other tribes and were still tribes when the English landed in Sydney
@jenniferharrison8915
@jenniferharrison8915 Жыл бұрын
They only met up to fight, eat the losing side, party and graze! Rather like New Guinea natives actually! 🤨 Exactly, the English only landed in Sydney, with chained convicts, women and children, and a few soldiers to guard them - no suitable foodstuffs nor shelter! Bloody pathetic army of invaders, don't you agree!?? 😏
@johnfisher9692
@johnfisher9692 Жыл бұрын
Tribes that fought and went to war with each other and did nothing nothing but descend on an area, eat it barren and run away from the fires they set after that. Where are all the giant marsupials that evolved here?? They died out a little less than 60,000 years ago, strange coincidence of dates that. Did the marsupials lament when their land was invaded 60,000 years ago?
@jenniferharrison8915
@jenniferharrison8915 Жыл бұрын
@@johnfisher9692 🤔😂😁👏
@Rn-pp9et
@Rn-pp9et Жыл бұрын
That's entirely correct. The concepts of nations and sovereignty is alien to the indigenous tribal groups. It's just another aspect of cultural appropriation.
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Жыл бұрын
@@Rn-pp9et Just like the idea of owning land stone aged people didnt have that concept!
@hmbdata
@hmbdata Жыл бұрын
If it happens it will be endless activism.
@beepbeep6861
@beepbeep6861 Жыл бұрын
If it happens, will we accept and get over it.
@hmbdata
@hmbdata Жыл бұрын
@@beepbeep6861 My bet is we will be badgered for reparations, schools will be forced to change class content, businesses will be hounded to support the 'right' causes. In short, it'll undermine democracy because it will give disproportionate power to activists.
@ruprectgreatrex9153
@ruprectgreatrex9153 Жыл бұрын
truth be told there were no aboriginal nations in colonial era Australia in the conventional sense, but rather hundreds of essentially nomadic tribal groups of various sizes, many of whom were warring with and contesting the territory of others.
@chrisalexander6716
@chrisalexander6716 Жыл бұрын
yes, many murders took place, child brides, slavery of other tribal women and cannibalism of the competing tribal men. This didnt happen in all tribes but in a fair number of them.
@DernRern
@DernRern Жыл бұрын
This isnt what they teach today in schools.. its a total farce, my kids think they were Australias "first scientists, inventors and mathematicians" .. they didnt even invent the wheel for themselves... they were the only indigenous population to fail to invent the bow and arrow... i mean come on guys...its a wheel..
@frankie3041
@frankie3041 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Let’s scuttle this undemocratic proposal in October. ✌
@cheahd
@cheahd Жыл бұрын
Great articulation!
@ausjo8352
@ausjo8352 Жыл бұрын
My reason for voting no is based on experience growing up and working in Alice. ATSIC failed. It failed not only because it was exploited but because of the different indigenous nations (as you so eloquently put) could not come to agreements on where help was needed more. This caused alot of discussions and caused a few tribal fights. But their feelings when ATSIC failed them will always stick with me. To have this permanently put into our constitution it worries me to what will happen to those indigenous who vote no. Will it still be fair? Resentment and restlessness is what this voice has done. We dont know in the future how it will affect Australians. There are those Indigenous that would like to use it to revenge the colonial Democracy I think they think the Voice is about more than recognition. This is so messy that I will vote no.
@mattmcguire1577
@mattmcguire1577 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning ATSIC.Few people recall that it was so bad both the ALP and LNP voted to be rid of it.
@sp1ashy345
@sp1ashy345 Жыл бұрын
If the voice has the power to remove Lydia Thorpe from government, then I'll vote yes 🤣
@patriciasanderson2171
@patriciasanderson2171 Жыл бұрын
That woman’s eyes are too close together. She’s an activist teenager in a woman’s body. Just embarrassing.
@cohort075
@cohort075 Жыл бұрын
God forbid, that embarrassment of a senator, elected by a bunch of rubes, will likely force her way onto that voice body. Same as that communist oxygen thief Thomas Mayo.
@NicolasConnault
@NicolasConnault Жыл бұрын
​@@patriciasanderson2171how DARE you??!!
@zoddsonofthor5576
@zoddsonofthor5576 Жыл бұрын
shes part of the no vote campaign so that would be funny
@NicolasConnault
@NicolasConnault Жыл бұрын
@@zoddsonofthor5576 it's not a No "campaign". She wants a full separation from the government, she wants sedition. She wants war.
@jamesfagan7823
@jamesfagan7823 Жыл бұрын
Freedom , equality, Democracy , 3 of the greatest illusion feed to fools because they simply do not exist
@thepappies
@thepappies Жыл бұрын
Reason 1 2 and 3 New Zealand
@trg9765
@trg9765 Жыл бұрын
This man should still be in polatics Well said John Anderson YOU WANT TRUTH TELLING THERE IT IS. VOTING NO TO RACISM, DIVISION & APARTHIED
@beepbeep6861
@beepbeep6861 Жыл бұрын
Learn how to spell before commenting, it's politics not polatics. SMH
@trg9765
@trg9765 Жыл бұрын
@@beepbeep6861 must be a yes voter TOSSER
@anthonycarr7466
@anthonycarr7466 Жыл бұрын
He was in polatics.
@kateadkins7087
@kateadkins7087 Жыл бұрын
Every First Nation on the planet (possibly does not apply as a term in this instance) has a representative body that is democratically voted on, one person one vote. The proposed Voice to Parliament will not be a democratic vote but rather one of ancestry. It is impossible for me, personally, to vote for an undemocratic body to have power in a democratic country.
@normanmacfarlane6724
@normanmacfarlane6724 Жыл бұрын
I agree John
@frankmoloney7366
@frankmoloney7366 Жыл бұрын
That is the clearest explanation I have heard so far--supplementing my own conclusion that a sound NO vote is the best outcome for democracy and a voice for all ‘nations’ within our single AUSTRALIAN Nation.
@AlexSmith2
@AlexSmith2 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@leebay6093
@leebay6093 Жыл бұрын
Well said John
@wallypoffle7796
@wallypoffle7796 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou again John for clarity of thought and reason.
@naufisi
@naufisi Жыл бұрын
I can listen to this great man talk all day.
@scottwarner1017
@scottwarner1017 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct I'm with John Anderson on this. The voice is going to divide Australia. Not good.
@homebrandrules
@homebrandrules Жыл бұрын
thankyou Jonno
@humantravesty4603
@humantravesty4603 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly succinct
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Spoken like the privileged who doesn't need something else to cloud his day.
@MissGold888
@MissGold888 10 ай бұрын
We need YOU as prime minister. Your intelligence, eloquence and leadership clearly shows. You sir, are a dream I hope comes true.
@entershikarii
@entershikarii Жыл бұрын
Thank you Francis and Konstantin for having John. Well said John! I’m voting NO. There is just no evidence that this will improve the lives of indigenous Aussies; on the contrary. If there is evidence, why not legislate it first and enshrine later after a proven track record? Well we know better from actual experience with similar advisory groups, so NO because: (1) I do not want to further disadvantage indigenous Aussies by entrenching the rich elites in their community especially not those who only identify as Aboriginal but don’t actually live on the ground in the countryside where the gap is glaring; (2) I do not want to undermine the efficient working of the government by having the same elites force the hand of parliament through the courts to further their own interests (not the interests of those they are supposed to represent, we’ve seen that before); and (3) I do not want to enshrine in the constitution what we already know to have failed indigenous Aussies in the past-thinking that the failures of doing more of the same can be rectified by doing more of the same only permanently is silly, quite frankly. 😔
@sirwholland7
@sirwholland7 Жыл бұрын
The only thing in a republic (democracy), that at its core is equality before the law, that can destroy a cohesive and coherent constitutional society is codifying the concept of “protected class” in its law or constitution.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
That's right. No codifying 10% of the population owning the majority of the wealth. You idiots are incapable of listening to yourselves.
@seantayler5418
@seantayler5418 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@petermitchell7539
@petermitchell7539 Жыл бұрын
John anderson ... voice of reason. The Voice ... division and acrimony
@brent001
@brent001 Жыл бұрын
Bob Hawke said “in Australia there is no hierarchy of decent: there must be no privilege of origin” SAY NO TO THE RACIST DIVISIVE VOICE !!!!
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
It's not as if we have racism or divisiveness without a voice is it. Oh dear, it's all so confusing.
@jolyons7370
@jolyons7370 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@davidanderson4876
@davidanderson4876 Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Love your tie. It's Ancient Anderson tartan. As an Anderson myself, I have that tie.
@flyonthewalltheatre
@flyonthewalltheatre 10 ай бұрын
VOTE NO.
@danieljames626
@danieljames626 Жыл бұрын
all the companies and media and government departments are promoting "The Voice" and using name calling and emotional attacks against anyone who doesn't, while not telling us what it is; so, you KNOW it has to be a good. Also, our politicians are saying that we need this because the government don't listen to people without it and this will make them listen, that's gotta be some solid reasoning.
@no-body-22
@no-body-22 Жыл бұрын
If the Voice won't really do anything then it does not need to be in the Constitution; if it will have powers then they need to clearly define them ahead of time.
@peterjamesmusic8859
@peterjamesmusic8859 Жыл бұрын
Well said John Anderson.
@imlistening1137
@imlistening1137 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@ferdinand2506
@ferdinand2506 Жыл бұрын
? THE VOICE is DEVISIVE !!!! Plain the simple
@matthalpin1981
@matthalpin1981 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly summed up, John.
@John_II
@John_II Жыл бұрын
Well said. The whole point of democracy was equality. But that's not what today's leftists want. They want all people to be equal but also want some to be more equal than others. And those who are more equal than others are determined based on immutable traits, like gender, race, etc. and it's antithetical to democracy. It's social policy that has failed everywhere in the world it was tried. Making a special status for Indigenous peoples in Canada has not worked. Those who live on reserves live in what can accurately be described as poverty. There is no accountability on the money given to them, and they have the lowest high school completions and highest suicide rates of any other subgroup in Canada. And this is with 1) not paying taxes, 2) getting university for free, and 3) getting unlimited hunting and fishing licenses. None of those things have changed the other stats, and they have led to a great deal of social resentment. I cannot choose to be Indigenous, I have to be born Indigenous, and based on that lottery of birth I'm treated differently by law: 1) I have to pay taxes, 2) I have to pay for school and 3) I have get hunting and fishing licenses. I think we need to call it day on special status based on how Indigenous a person is, and just let them be normal citizens like the rest of us and make up their own futures without government handouts. They can only claim government funding if they stay stuck in time, being clients of the federal government does not give a sh!t about their welfare by being "good little victims" (my own words). They forfeit many of the niceties of modern life and the chance at making a better life in exchange for "more say" in Parliament and a special status with a few privileges and more drawbacks than most of face statistically. Only no one in Canada has the political balls to go do that. I'm certain some people reading this comment think I'm a racist. Let me tell you: I want Indigenous communities to maximize their own gains on their dime just like every other person in Canada has to. That's called equality, not racism. In my version of Canada, I think we can address their poverty, their suicide rate and their failing in school by taking away the special status and welcoming them into the modern era. I call that being humane. My opponents call it racism, which is really saying they want Indigenous people to stay victims so they can pretend to give a sh!t about them while doing nothing to help them.
@dietmarventzke5327
@dietmarventzke5327 Жыл бұрын
VOTE NO
@lancelot0007
@lancelot0007 Жыл бұрын
If in doubt, bloody VOTE NO!
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
If in doubt, vote 4 self education.
@homebrandrules
@homebrandrules Жыл бұрын
1 of the things i,m worried about is the south africans are gonna try to sue us for cultural appropriation by stealing their apartheid idea which the voice represents
@TheBillABCTV
@TheBillABCTV Жыл бұрын
I will be voting no.
@sarkastodon30
@sarkastodon30 Жыл бұрын
This guy want to be our PM again (well upgrade from Deputy)?
@stendecstretcher5678
@stendecstretcher5678 Жыл бұрын
Just vote no.
@michaelconnolly4382
@michaelconnolly4382 Жыл бұрын
No!
@EliasAnto
@EliasAnto Жыл бұрын
I’ve been leaning to vote No, but genuinely open to listen to arguments to vote Yes. Unfortunately, apart from “it’s the right thing to do” (which in my mind is not an argument), I’ve yet to hear anything to convince me. I will however, keep my mind open until the day of the referendum.
@mattmcguire1577
@mattmcguire1577 Жыл бұрын
The simplest question to help you decide in any referendum. Does the constitution need changing? Can the same outcome be achieved through other measures.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Don't do a senator Molan. His open mind on climate change caused his brain to fall out.
@bobhebblewhite1685
@bobhebblewhite1685 Жыл бұрын
you sir have put it in a nutshell.
@jimdavid7710
@jimdavid7710 Жыл бұрын
One of the best Deputy Prime Ministers of Australia of all time, & a decent bloke, clever & from the country. A junior member in the coalition so not to be more than an acting PM … & on that no scuttllebut. I was a fan of Hawke/Keating but even they knew he was a man of integrity.
@ashman167
@ashman167 Жыл бұрын
Its a NO from me, simply wont work
@robsin2810
@robsin2810 Жыл бұрын
It will never help those in most need. Vote NO will I.🙏🇦🇺👍
@d1m18
@d1m18 Жыл бұрын
Opposed to individuals getting a vote on an issue? We should have more referendums where the people decide, not the elites
@stewartread4235
@stewartread4235 Жыл бұрын
Encouraging racism and discrimination is not a model for governance. If they want a government position they should put their best foot forward, instead of both feet or FI let's get shedded.
@zenongruba2607
@zenongruba2607 Жыл бұрын
We need a voice like we need a hole in the head. There are more important issues.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
If it's not important then just vote yes.
@UNCHART3DGAMING
@UNCHART3DGAMING Жыл бұрын
A political voice is the absolute worst - politicians “of the day” are NEVER held to account for any policy decisions - look at the residential school system in Canada - endless apologies and money thrown at it for over 100 years by the citizens who had NO VOICE in the creation of the system, just handed all the animosity and an ongoing invoice to pay for every actual or perceived slight into perpetuity
@larrym12
@larrym12 Жыл бұрын
The reality is that the WA Gov't with the heritage tax has shown what could possibly go wrong with the voice wow control of the waterways who knew
@robertthomas3777
@robertthomas3777 Жыл бұрын
Well summated and said sir. It’s a no from me.
@rulerofwtfproduction
@rulerofwtfproduction 2 ай бұрын
I was happy with the 60% no
@nickhanlon9331
@nickhanlon9331 Жыл бұрын
The only person who is single out in our constitution is Queen Victoria who died 22 days after Australia became a nation.
@jenniferharrison8915
@jenniferharrison8915 Жыл бұрын
Norfolk Islanders still celebrate Queen Victoria as their Queen - some traditions just work! 😄
@TheDukeofDuchess
@TheDukeofDuchess 4 ай бұрын
In conclusion...we Aussies said NO
@dayamitrasaraswati6276
@dayamitrasaraswati6276 Жыл бұрын
We'll said.
@gregorylong4054
@gregorylong4054 Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, how do feel about the current, Russia -ukraine conflict ? I vote. I want to know why are we sending arms, munitions and cash?
@weareharbinger914
@weareharbinger914 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty much.
@amywas1
@amywas1 Жыл бұрын
"Race, gender, wealth, position in society" and I guess we might add religion to that and consider some of the troubles in the Middle East, Israel included...dictatorships like Dubai wouldn't bear too much scrutiny either.
@pheebsbee1280
@pheebsbee1280 Жыл бұрын
waste of taxpayers money
@johndunn4182
@johndunn4182 Жыл бұрын
Australians just don't want this Voice. They are waking up to what is going on here. If you don't understand it, vote NO.... and if you do understand it you would vote NO anyway.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Please explain it to me.
@DavdMar
@DavdMar Жыл бұрын
If you can vote you already have a voice. That’s the fairest way we know and it isn’t racist if everyone is allied to do it. Vote NO to this racist and divisive referendum
@1johnneville
@1johnneville Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Canada what a fing nightmare
@francisstjohn2194
@francisstjohn2194 Жыл бұрын
🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹FIRMA per 🌟REFERENDUM RIPUDIA LA GUERRA 🌟
@dianamills5243
@dianamills5243 Жыл бұрын
Where is the whole interview? Please just keep it simple and not with dozens of links.
@jeremyschipp
@jeremyschipp Жыл бұрын
Improving the quality of life for indigenous Australians would work better if the numbers of organisations involved were limited. They are the main problem along with the people who are in leadership positions. Endless amounts have already been spend with no good outcome only linling of pockets. In other words people still on welfare living in remote communities no opportunity or services while a select few sit around benefiting from it not fixing anything just making it worse.
@damon4802
@damon4802 Жыл бұрын
The major problem with the Voice is, how do you objectively define an aborigine?
@mattmcguire1577
@mattmcguire1577 Жыл бұрын
So true. Canada, I think, has quite strict requirements which if applied here would exclude the vast majority of those that call themselves aborigines.
@glennplumb2313
@glennplumb2313 11 ай бұрын
They are already recognised in our constitution under freedom of religion! When God made them he said stay there and don’t to anything till I get back.
@Dancestar1981
@Dancestar1981 Жыл бұрын
I will be voting no
@mattmcguire1577
@mattmcguire1577 Жыл бұрын
Our constitution is not like the US constitution. People think it is. The US constitution has enshrined individual/group rights eg freedom of speech and the right to bear arms etc. Ours is simply a list of what the parliament can and can't do. There is no need to change our constitution.
@anthonycarr7466
@anthonycarr7466 Жыл бұрын
Reason two is that ‘I don’t think it’s going to work ‘. Doesn’t explain why. Unless that’s left to the other two reasons. In other words he has two reasons to vote No.
@banta-pd8zj
@banta-pd8zj Жыл бұрын
Oh anthony, what an anthonyCARD! Hilarious mate.
@davidseamans59
@davidseamans59 Жыл бұрын
No, no and No. It is just legalised apartheid.
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z Жыл бұрын
I just object to it because it's racist.
@beepbeep6861
@beepbeep6861 Жыл бұрын
Why are you afraid?
@th35had0wster
@th35had0wster Жыл бұрын
The correct answer is yes on the Referendum. We promise to keep thumping the English in Cricket.
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