The "you need to be able to see the target" thing is so funny, it's like trying to shoot down a build with "you say you don't need items, but what about a spellcasting focus, huh?" (Incidentally, both Scorching Ray and Spirit Shroud are VS, so no focus needed for those :p)
@jonny-lancs19444 ай бұрын
I love that cannon responce offbeat lol like something i think that hinders the canon also (correct me if i am wrong) after going through all the prep time that your DeFiNiTeLy going to be given, dont a lot of high level monsters have resistance or outright immunity to non magical attacks (which i assume a normal cannon counts as unless your casting something like magical weapon on it) so youve spent all that time at the table setting this shit up and cut scene style scream fire at the skeletons and the dm just turns to you saying "the canonballs bounce harmlessly off of tiamat." I mean how deflated would you be 😂
@nerdygraves4 ай бұрын
Also, fabricate CAN'T MAKE 120 CANNONS
@kiritotheabridgedgod41784 ай бұрын
@@nerdygraves It's one cannon, you're just rotating the skeletons who are loading and firing it. DnD as a system doesn't care how many times a weapon is used in a round, just that people have the actions to use it. Essentially, the skeletons form an undead autoloader, that has a rate of fire equal to eight rounds per second. That being said, still stupid. Oh, and too OP, for ranged weapons, the weapon itself can be mundane, you just need magic ammo.
@jonasboel24734 ай бұрын
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 >Essentially, the skeletons form an undead autoloader, that has a rate of fire equal to eight rounds per second. fucking love that image: a fucking huge pile of skeletons one a cannon, loading and fireing it in less than a second per shot. make it front loaded just for the image of sceletons barely getting out of the way, BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM
@kiritotheabridgedgod41784 ай бұрын
@@jonasboel2473 want it to be even funnier? Imagine, instead of a pile, three rings of skeletons, one ring running around with barrels of gun powder, one running around carrying a basket of cannonballs, and one running around with flaming torches, set to the Benny Hill theme.
@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon4 ай бұрын
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 As a DM, I'd actually tell the player no, especially if I was actually nice enough to have Tiamat let them set it up to begin with instead of instantly obliterating them.
@novella-inaba52304 ай бұрын
I haven't watched any of his current videos in awhile, but- is his hair usually this Down? His hair is usually so- UP! So Up! Why is his hair so sad?! Please feel better soon Forever DM's hair!
@fisch374 ай бұрын
His hair is disappointed in the comment section
@sotirismihalis14 ай бұрын
I love the way you put 'em down! Preach, brother! Everyone has opinions, but not everyone is right!
@yungwhaley30794 ай бұрын
Omg... I went from watching seven seas for a 3rd time to this video and It almost made me forget we are all getting older... u, Marcus, spudson, Caroline, balladboi, and Liz have all changed so much since then
@nerdygraves4 ай бұрын
If Resistance/Immunity is really something you're worried about, just swap Evocation with Scribes. It only does ~70 less damage using the hexblade version of the build.
@Dead_Man_Gambling4 ай бұрын
For those who are curios for a variant that has more team support is switching the subclass to chronurgy for some dice fuckery and droping a wizard level and investing in wisdom for a level in peace cleric mainly for emboldening bond but also for Guidance and healing spells
@TheGeopigMan4 ай бұрын
I enjoy that Light Clerics can also Shroud+Ray
@solosynapse4 ай бұрын
I love that one guy arguing about "these things need to happen" and just completely ignores that _characters can move_ Even just walking would work! Does that guy play in a weird game that doesn't allow movement actions or something?
@nefertitisbish4 ай бұрын
Its like a car manufacturer saying "our car's top speed is 500kph" and everyone saying "but I can only do 130 according to the speed limit" or "I've only been able to get it to 100 on the roads I use." Like, yes? The 500kph is under ideal testing conditions, not everyday situations..
@nagsorinaste56584 ай бұрын
Gotta say while I love the nonsense one can do on high level builds would be cool to see some lower level build again ^^ (so below level 7)
@sirfeffers45134 ай бұрын
Hi guys I'm offbeats dm, the guy who is happy to tussle w these insane builds for four years running, I could wreck that cannon idea w ease. offbeat didn't even mention the gun powder let alone the fact that Tiamat wouldn't just be alone and approachable w an army OR THE INSANE TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO FABRICATE THE ARMY. like what are ya gonna pop a squat NEARBY and get to cooking? one cannon is ten minutes, you need how many cannons? what is Tiamat just gonna let you teleport in an army? I could poke more holes in your plan without using Tiamat. WAIT. THE CANNONS DONT HAVE MAGICAL DAMAGE. THE WHOLE PLAN IS A BUST.
@sirfeffers45134 ай бұрын
ITS A CONGA LINE WITH ONE CANNON?! thats no better then the peasant line XD
@BigBrain054 ай бұрын
(In a satirical tone) Well the canon guy had a good pint getting 144 skeletons a cannon or more and a metric ton of magic cannonballs is way easier than casting 3 spells.
@cjslime88474 ай бұрын
Your build is so powerful that the dm sends a few wizards using the same build at you, I cast anti magic field, dm:😮
@Avigorus4 ай бұрын
I think the skelecannons idea was based around pre-fight prep not fabricating mid-fight, and probably presumes you're using all slots across like a week or whatever. Still not necessarily the best build given how squishy those skeletons are and a smart dragon can still wreck havoc with guerilla flying and convenient nearby obstructions, but yeah necromancers can get insane if you dedicate yourself to it (I once toyed with some math on like how many skeles a warlock 11 / necromancer 9 can get but I'm now realizing I forgot to consider the extra slots of a controlled mummy lord so I might go toy with what the numbers of a warlock 5 / necromancer 15 and compare to amuse myself lol).
@OffbeatOutlaw4 ай бұрын
Using all the slots across the week wouldn’t work as you lose control of the skeletons in 24 hours so I don’t even think so. And the comment said “at the start of the fight cast fabricate” so even a generous reading is bogus
@Avigorus4 ай бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw Something to note about animate dead: per the last bit before the higher levels description, you can use it to reassert control of up to 4 undead if recast on them before the 24 hours, so spending all spell slots over the course of a week or whatever, slowly building up the numbers from the smaller per creation cast to the larger to maintain control cast numbers, is possible, if ridiculous, and can get up to triple digits (if one is going to do something this absurd they better be planning well enough to make sure they always get the control castings within that 24 hour mark lol). The Necromancer subclass level 6 feature's +1 created per creation casting speeds up the buildup process and lets you create an extra minion for that final load that you won't be able to fully fill in the control of. To be fair, this is on the level of running at the speed of sound, theoretically possible but who in their right mind would do it lol
@dragoknight5894 ай бұрын
offbeat, you have been presented with the great opportunity to style your hair like Jetstream Sam. we all envy you.
@theofficerfactory26254 ай бұрын
A demi-culverin cannon could weigh as much as 3400 pounds! A saker 1900 pound. A Culverin 4000 - 4800 pounds. How in 9 hells are ya gonna carry that much material to fabricate a cannon? That's not including weight of gunpowder and shot and water.
@dredgendorchadas67704 ай бұрын
A better idea than the cannon guy is to just resurrect undead as you can before long rests and stuffing them into a separate dimension. You then randomly release the horde of undead on some encounter that's giving you trouble in which you aren't fighting a literal nuke. (Just be careful as these undead will target you and your party)
@kiritotheabridgedgod41784 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I love the Bag of Skeleton Holding.
@cherryjuice26514 ай бұрын
Omg hi offbeat o/ i havent seen one of your vids in a while its so strage this just popped up on my fyp. Also holy shit your channed grew so much since last time i checked so happy about that!!
@LuciaBee-n3v4 ай бұрын
Hey can you please share some more information on STACKS and maybe share the Character sheet you used in the play Ted
@evasimbiot4 ай бұрын
17- scrybe wizard, 1 hexblade Warlock, 2-cleric Tempest: maximice lvl 9 spiritshroud will give 32 to any attack, +hexblade curse, now scorching ray and quickened eldritch smite (metamagic adept) round up 10 attacks per round (X DAMAGE) + 32*10
@Crazor20004 ай бұрын
about my comment, sorry if it came off wrong, it was not meant as knowing better or to discredit the build, my apologies. I do think it's a very good build the damage output it outranks anything in the game and is the one if not the strongest build in the game it's more that there are plenty of people who see the thumbnail with a title like "most powerful build" and think that are invinicible or that it can do everything and get a bit too much into it. but to anwser some of your responses, i didn't mean both you and your simulacrum are both get dominated, but keep in mind that the simulacrum follows your spoken commands and directions, so if you can get the wizard charmed/dominated, by exstention they have to follow the command of the charmed wizard. also while yes, you can pretty much always win counterspell duals, and spells are plentiful at high level, in my experience abilities or spell-like effects are also fairly common , or spells with longer range than counterspell (among other stuff like psionics, but that is less common). and while +5 widom saves is not bad, at the levels this wizard is and the monsters you face at that level, you still need a fairly high roll to succeed (with dc's around 19-24) But you also made some fair points, something like antimagic field does work for most effects, and i didn't consider globe of invurnarbility, that is my bad. and yes i do tend to ramble sometimes, guess that's a bit of habit of mine.
@keithulhu4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I quit the character build arms race and am playing games where that isn't a thing.
@cyanidegamers134 ай бұрын
I love watching offbeat reply to comments
@007narufan4 ай бұрын
19:03 'Oh It fAiLs To KiLl TiAmAt' oh im sorry i didnt know the requirement for a good build was to solo and one round a (i think she is) LITERAL GOD (or lesser god i dont know, internet says different things). THE MOTHER OF ALL EVIL DRAGONS
@007narufan4 ай бұрын
also 21:04 i love your editor, that little bit there was just *chefs kiss*
@absolutleynotanalien80963 ай бұрын
Is it a stupid idea to try to maximize your number of subclasses and take as many as possible that gives you abilities reliant on proficiency? Better question: can i make a somewhat powerful character by taking the maximum amount of subclasses(9)?
@Tophatassasin4 ай бұрын
Also in in scraps world you said a nuke was like a 100 dmg you underselled this build you have 10 nukes in your pocket and a kick in the balls
@Infiniteomnitrix4 ай бұрын
First
@TerribadAthlete4 ай бұрын
Offbeat, I’m feeding your algorithm. Keep up the good work! Also, I’ll get out of your house as soon as you find where I’m living in it
@OffbeatOutlaw4 ай бұрын
ILL GET YOU
@tyrone33714 ай бұрын
I remember you talking about the cannon man on stream. Bro really scoffed at 300 FUCKING DAMAGE! 😭
@dragonova2793 ай бұрын
Level 20 Boot camp DRILL SEARGANT
@1rotzy4 ай бұрын
I haven't seen Offbeat's videos in a while, so when he came on screen, I wasn't expecting The Negotiator, General Kenobi. Fun little surprise. I love it.
@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon4 ай бұрын
Any DM that lets a player set up a cannon for 10 minutes in front of Tiamat is definitely planning some way to invalidate the build. Its me, I'm one of those DMs. First off, Tiamat has immunity to non-Magical weapon. Cannon is useless. Second, I dont subscribe to the bullshit that lets the laws of physics not apply based on action economy. We aren't playing commoner railgun simulator here. Lastly, all the Skeletons get the same initiative and would you look at that, they rolled lower than Tiamat somehow... And they're all dead from the Breathe Weapons. Albeit tbh, I'd just have Tiamat attack before the cannon is made and end that PC. This mans skeleton cannon idea is stupid.
@idk421174 ай бұрын
hes back they all screamed throwing thier hands in the air hopeing he really is back
@OffbeatOutlaw4 ай бұрын
I have been making consistent content this whole time and streaming on twitch so i didn’t really leave
@idk421174 ай бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw i don’t have twitch and whilst i dad watch the shorts you made i couldn’t watch your 1-2 hour long live recordings which sucked but i did rewatch your forever dm and my friend pedro playthroughs
@Avigorus4 ай бұрын
To be fair, I didn't recall you mentioning Illusionist specifically, but yeah any wizard can potentially stack a bunch of stuff for absurd damage... Also something I'll toss in to clarify: the homebrew I like includes you can't both cast a levelled spell and reaction spell (counterspell) on the same (your own) turn, you'll need an ally watching your back to counterspell the counterspell to your own spell, but those few bonus action cantrips don't prevent action levelled spells. Yes, it's a little evil, but logically interrupting one spell to toss out a different spell and resuming the first shouldn't be easy if indeed even possible for mortals without some divine boon or something.
@1rotzy4 ай бұрын
Some of the complaints can bring up some good points, but if they just thought, they would realize the mistakes of those trains of thought. But this is youtube, and when do commenters ever think?
@DragonElixion4 ай бұрын
You were absolutely justified in your reaction to the fabricate skeleton canon idea.
@simonobrien51663 ай бұрын
Hey Offbeat I had an idea for a character that was a dragon shape shifted as a human but I don’t now how to make it balanced and sense you the are the dnd power power builder I ask you what do I do make Shure so the character is a Mary Sue
@reddiamond25474 ай бұрын
I did not expect a happy John Wick when I clicked the video, but I'm here for it.
@charlietonner56484 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see people saying stupid shit in this one
@demon28084 ай бұрын
Thank u offbeat outlaw
@JacobHeaton-tx4gd4 ай бұрын
Second
@kiritotheabridgedgod41784 ай бұрын
Okay, but Offbeat, have you considered on the cannon idea, creating the cannon outside of combat. You cast Enlarge/Reduce on a medium sized cannon, stuff it in a bag of holding, summon all the skeletons, stuff them in the bag of holding with the cannon. When the time comes, turn the bag inside out, everything including the cannon pops out, cast enlarge reduce on the cannon again to make it large, then have the skeletons fire it? Still incredibly stupid, but marginally less stupid than spending ten minutes or a wish spell, to Fabricate a large cannon, in the middle of a fight.
@OffbeatOutlaw4 ай бұрын
I have no problem with the cannon in theory, it sounds fun. The problem with the cannon was that it was presented as objectively better than my build which within the parameters of the video isn’t true
@Tophatassasin4 ай бұрын
Great build but can it be beat godfried?
@OffbeatOutlaw4 ай бұрын
Godfried has too many magic items at this point
@JacobHeaton-tx4gd4 ай бұрын
One of the most fun build i have found is an arcana cleric build that can do about infinite damage in 1 turn. Spell you need for this build 9th level: Meteor Swarm (from arcane mastery) 7th level: Simulacrum (from arcane mastery) take the feat quicken spell. here is what you do before the combat. spend 12 hours creating a simulacrum and make sure it has a divine intervention use. in battle: Simulacrum acts on your turn and takes these actions Bonus actions quicken meteor swarm Action divine intervention on original self who has full resources and cast simulacrum this will create a new simulacrum with full resources and a divine intervention as it is a copy of your who has not cast any spells or used divine intervention. now this is just theoretical so if you find any flaws please tell me
@fisch374 ай бұрын
I see at leasst two, I think three, isssues: 1: the PHB states that "The DM chooses the nature of the intervention; the effect of any cleric spell or cleric domain spell would be appropriate." I would interpret this as the DM having full control over the intervention including the type of spell cast. Means you can't use Divine Intervention as a guaranteed simulacrum. 2: Even so the casting time of Simulacrum still applies so that intervention would take 12 hours to be effective (even if it only costs you 1 action) 3: This feels so obvious I'm not sure if it's true. Buut, without Action Surge you wouldn't be able to cast two levelled spells in a round so Meteor Swarm is a bust.
@JacobHeaton-tx4gd4 ай бұрын
1: divine intervention says you request the intervention you desire which means you could say "i wish for the spell simulacrum to be cast" the dm can still go against this but that's up to them and how they think the god would act. 2: divine intervention acts sort of like wish in that it ignores casting time and just duplicates the effect. 3: divine intervention is not casting a spell it is duplicating the effect of a spell. fun part of this is no counterspell
@JacobHeaton-tx4gd4 ай бұрын
I will preface that the dm can say no to all of this but this should be possible. however we must understand that DI is not a spell and is a class feature