OFFICIAL Nikon Z50 II Real World pREVIEW | a Mini Z6 III?!

[@csc-photo]

Most underrated feature here is the pop-up flash, at least in the context of a small everyday / family snapshot body. It's criminal that Cycle AF Mode and a dedicated Bird Detection mode is in the Z50II, but not in the more expensive Zf or more so, the Z6III.

[@vickosis]

I would say quite the opposite, it's good that Nikon is adding such sought after features in its entry level aps-c camer! Undoubtedly something they can release via firmware to other models.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Yes there are oddities like that. Anther one was the absence of the ficus staging in the Z50 whereas available on the Z30. Not sure why those firmware driven features don't trickle up. I would be very interested to know why the bird detection was not implemented in the Z6 iii. Or is it considered a subset automatically activated in the " animals" subject detection ? It is the same for the Z8 isn't it ?

[@davidf6326]

​@@vickosis 'Undoubtedly something they can release via firmware to other models' - If you're talking about the ZFc I wouldn't count on that. The Z50II has a newer and (presumably) more powerful processor.

[@csc-photo]

@@Cervin_Suisse The Z6III has Bird Detection rolled into Animal, it’s not separate like the Z8/9, and now the Z50II. Many people speculate they’ll separate it in the Z6III in future fw updates.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@csc-photo I wonder if it makes much of a difference. It's reasonable to imagine that the routine would run faster if it only looks for one animal.Rumor has it that the Z50 ii has a couple of features not present in the Z6iii. If true I hope they will trickle up soon.It seems that historically Sony has released functionalities in entry level bodies not available in the higher range. I keep checking for the Z50 ii users manual on the Nikon website. To no avail so far.

[@Don8789]

Bro, comparing a Z50 ii with a Z6 iii and calling it a couple hundred bucks more is a massive understatement! Just the body is like 2,5 times more expensive. And you need bigger lenses for the same reach. Loads of (amateurs) use aps-c for wildlife and sport because it's cheaper and lighter to carry around. Trading a little bit of image quality for that is the whole point. They want something closer to the Sony A6700 or Canon R7. Offcourse they are going to be underwelmed by the same sensor and no IBIS.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Yes, I said the same thing. The price gap between a z50 ii and a Z6 iii is huge.

[@stepheneckert4006]

He was saying wheres the aps-c flagship d500 successor that people has asked for then saying that shouldnt exist anyway because he would rather go with z6iii for a few hundred dollars more since that will most likely cost $1500+. Wasn’t comparing it to a z50 II

[@Don8789]

@@stepheneckert4006 Ooo yeah like that the price difference would be smaller. In my market (dutch) there would still be a big difference tho. The R7 and A6700 are something like 1550/1600 euro, on sale usually about 100 or 150 euro cheaper. While the Z6 iii is currently on sale for 2675 euro from 3000 euro.

[@georgivelev77]

Wildlie lenses are pretty heavy and the weight savings in comparison to a FX camera are insignificant.

[@Don8789]

@@georgivelev77 Not always, I use a R10 with a RF100-400 that gives me 640mm equivalent reach that barely weighs 1kg (body +lens) and is super easy to travel with aswell. Nikon have a similar lens, not the best aperture tho. Most 600mm lenses weigh about 2kg, but I personally really wouldn't mind a 2kg RF version of the Sigma 150-600 for better reach and aperture.

[@OnlyCitrus]

I hope there is a Z90 or something in the works.

[@michaelcunningham1361]

I hope so too. I had used the 200-500mm lens on my D500 for wildlife, and that was a great setup. I sold those when I switched to mirrorless, now using the 180-600mm lens on my Z8. I can, of course, switch down to DX mode, but I would rather have a pro level DX camera, especially if it has a 33MP sensor. That would allow for cropping down further to get perhaps 2.0X, as I could on the D500. An effective 270-900mm lens for wildlife would be really sweet. Please Nikon.

[@dougsaroma]

@@michaelcunningham1361 D500 is my favorite Nikon camera ever, after 40 or so years of shooting. Yet they keep neglecting this segment of their loyal consumer base. We are always last on the list of getting a long-needed upgrade. Get on it, Nikon! I primarily shoot sports and wildlife, I own a z8, but I keep going back to the D500 because the z8 crop mode and the lens choices just don't quite cut it for the majority of my shots.

[@merakiphotos4603]

@@OnlyCitrus what would that even do? You can shoot high speed already with this. If you want the body design of d500 just get a z8.

[@grahamfloyd3451]

@@merakiphotos4603 good valid question. It would add IBIS. The sensor "upgrade" miichaelcunningham proposes would likely be a downgrade, producing more noise.

[@merakiphotos4603]

@@grahamfloyd3451 yup or drive the price higher which kills the point of the camera

[@MandrakeCigars]

Picture control does matter with your RAW shots because the picture control profile gets saved in the RAW file itself. So if you use NX Studio when you import your RAW files it will look just like you shot it with your picture control profile you set in camera. Lightroom can do this as well, it's just not as accurate. If there is a Picture Control profile you like it can give you a more efficient workflow and since you are shooting RAW you have the ability to change your mind in post and apply a different profile or preset.

[@盾神京矢]

I would like have a compact Z50 successor. Compactness is what makes the original Z50 a Z50. The bigger Z50 II is pushing people to their full frame cameras, especially the battery is not physically bigger than before.

[@daveyboy6210]

its just giving apsc people a great option . the size is just better for more people . people love fuji apsc for photography . it takes the upgraded battery too which graet☺

[@laxcdn]

Maybe people with bigger hands like the size? I have big hands and like that size compared to the z50.

[@JohanTalk]

Its not that much bigger

[@insidebean]

The A6700 and R7 are both wildly popular despite costing as much as some full frame alternatives. No ibis+dx option is a miss for the Nikon system.

[@BelotserkovskiyRoman]

Nikon have a price like canon r10. I think it is good variant.

[@veeaa]

That's why the Nikon costs much less. I would've hoped for IBIS but I still think that it's a big upgrade and worth it.

[@JCNOAOU]

@@veeaait’s not a big upgrade it’s just some tweaks to make more money off of old stash

[@veeaa]

@@JCNOAOU AF is miles ahead of the old version, ergonomy is better, video specs are great despite lack of IBIS, the new connectivity is a game changer for me. This is not something that could have been done without the new processing power. The old sensor is also fine at this price point as it's always been a great performer. Rolling shutter is comparable to others in this price point. Now there is much more power behind the sensor allowing for superior AF and pre-capture. The only thing I'd hope is faster shutter speeds but I'm not holding my breath. IBIS and new sensor would have raised the price to X-S20 and A6700 level. The Z50 II is correctly priced for its current tech and I'm ok with the compromise. If you need more, then there are plenty of other options on the market.

[@madczechgamer1408]

I hope there will be a new DX camera that would be more like the Sony a6700, with IBIS and perhaps a larger body for better ergonomics. I think the kit DX lenses are sharp enough to handle a 36MP sensor, so that might be possible in the future. I saw some speculations about a possible Z80, but not sure how likely those are to be true.

[@alessiocapitanio99]

I think Nikon make almost the perfect camera for photography beginners, not a "content creator" garbage like they (and all the other companies) did in the past, back 5 years ago I would have probably choose it over Canon R10

[@lcador9]

You continue to miss or disregard the distinct advantage of a DX crop sensor over a full frame with the same resolution. I can put my 100-400 f/4.5 or 500mm PF on such a camera and achieve the aspect ratio multiplied by 1.5 and at a much lighter weight than other full frame options.

[@froknowsphoto]

I am not missing anything. Full Frame is superior quality to DX. Yea, you get the feeling of 1.5x but not the same background.

[@bsc001]

I can shoot my z8 or z9 in dx mode too. So no loss there.

[@Ben_Stewart]

Great camera the Z50. Sold it to buy the Z8 but now I might have to get it back. It was great for travel and the you can mount any lens you want except RF...

[@vickosis]

Indeed, the Z50 was a great general purpose/travel camera and the new Z50 II looks way better. I also like the subtle physical design changes on the newer Z50 II like moving the viewfinder forward to keep it compact and aparently it has a slightly better grip than the older model, which are things that this review didn't go into. I also had the Z50 and kinda missed it when I traded it for a Z fc and then a Zf, but I too am contempating getting the new model again.

[@IanHobday]

5 years since the Z50 and Nikon still has a grand total of (drum roll) FIVE lenses for APS-C. Four of them are slow zooms.

[@OnlyCitrus]

Atleast the APSC third party lenses are decent but lord there are no fast DX zooms. Neither from Nikon nor from third party.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

APSC lenses are not futureproof anyway. Invest in full frame as much as u can afford it

[@IanHobday]

@ Then just buy a full frame body. A used Z6 is $800 to $900 at B&H, cheaper than this camera and it has IBIS. People buy APS-C for the smaller size, and don't want a ton of FF glass to go with it.

[@IanHobday]

@@OnlyCitrus Fast zooms for APS-C exist, just Nikon hasn't let them onto Z mount. IMO no one should be buying Z or RF APS-C cameras right now, but plenty of people seem happy to do so. Especially RF.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

@@IanHobday 🗿🔥

[@Wistbacka]

Lack of ibis is sad. But if the sensor is good, then no need to change. Remember, Sony used the same sensor in their APSC lineup until the 6700. A6000 - A6600 all have the same sensor with slight upgrades.

[@clancydubh]

Nikon just made up my mind. I love my old Z50 and have been waiting to see what Nikon did with it's crop sensor line before I replace it. The Z6iii has captured my interest because ibis has become something I want, and the new Z50ii fails to deliver that. I guess it is time to go full frame.

[@Mixer000999]

Exactly same with me

[@okaro6595]

Generally getting to a new crop makes no sense unless it offers really significant benefits. IBIS would be something like that.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Yes, if your budget allows for the more expensive glass.

[@TheMountrix]

I took z6ii in my hand , I immediately changed my mind upgrading to full frame because it is to bulky and heavy.

[@Frippin-MTBD80]

Should go full frame for reasons other than IBIS.

[@markusi188]

I'm happy with my 2-year-old Canon R10!

[@EironKyle]

I'm glad that the Z50 II finally has some good settings for the video, including a built-in N-LOG feature, and a SLIGHTLY upgraded autofocus system, but man overall this is just not an exciting product at all. Old sensor, No IBIS, and a lack of selection for native lenses. Does Nikon hate making money from the consumer market?

[@abrownfilmsandmedia]

The Costco guys boom reference! Jared you’ve outdone yourself

[@linglinggd4130]

Its a good camera, but missing IBIS and having the same sensor, feels like a slight miss with this one

[@GatorWinup]

If you see the trend for the specification, higher frame rate for continuous shooting (11, 15 and 30 fps) and higher 4K (50 fps and 60fps), you know the IBIS is not where it is going. IBIS is useless when you are shooting moving objects at 1/1000 sec or faster. If you shoot still, use a tripod or VR lens. Also, given the current AI noise reduction abilities, 128k ISO suddenly becomes practical -- note all the Z line telephotos now use a 2+ stop smaller aperture than the original F line -- that's how much the manufacturers are putting faith in the ISOs and low light processing abilities. Though personally I will always prefer OVF over EVF and f2.8-4 for telephotos (AF will theoretically work better for the optics). Also, for the weight of Z50 (both), you could use a sub $100 gimbal to remove most of the vibration you may worry about if you had to use 1/30-60 seconds shutter speeds.

[@natureredux1957]

It's way more then a Slight Miss. Wayyyyyy more.

[@Eihei]

I agree on the IBIS, but the sensors did not improve enough to make a difference. Pretty much ever since A7III we have stagnation, aside from some exceptions like stacked sensors which i would not expect in this cheap crop camera.

[@Frippin-MTBD80]

It's an entry level camera, if you add stuff that raises the price, then you raise the entry level cost for people that just want to enter mirrorless.

[@natureredux1957]

@@Frippin-MTBD80 People are fine with that but many that are in the system and or want to get in NEED more. So why not have that plus the D500 replacement, sooner than later. If the other 2 brands start doing far more in cropped, Nikon will start falling behind, AGAIN.

[@johnbunani1341]

Seriously?? 5 years later and same sensor and no IBIS? That’s all we wanted!

[@GatorWinup]

If you pay attention to the AI post processing tools, the same sensor is absolutely fine. You technically can upscale 2x without loss of quality. Also, the fact that this has the z 9 processor at the same price point should do more than justify the same sensor.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

It's the same price as a phone bro

[@GatorWinup]

@@jakilahmoulien9070 which phone accepts interchangeable lenses again? Are you even into photography or videography?

[@Stevenzhou666]

​@@GatorWinupactually, has the Z9 processor dosen't a advantage compared with other products with the same price. Nikon equipped this machine with the expeed7 processor just because Nikon's expeed6 processor is behind Canon and Sony too much. Canon using the digicX processor since 1DX3, from low-priced R10 and R7 to even the newly released flagship machine R1 and R52. The digicX It has already spread to all Canon products except the lowest end and the computing power is still enough today. And Nikon's contemporary expeed6 is just terrible. The expeed7 looks like a new generation processor but it just the same generation as digicx...Although the expeed7 processor maybe better than the processors of Canon and Sony in the upper performance limit (because it appeared later). But obviously, this will not be reflected in low-grade products. Sony's ai focusing chip and Canon's excellent focusing algorithm are far more important. What's more, according to Canon's consistent strategy, the Accelerated Capture chip on the flagship product is likely to be decentralized to a lower-level product. I have to say that Nikon is too backward in this round of AI revolution.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

@GatorWinup what do you think I'm here for? And yes there are phones with interchangeable lenses. But most people can't afford them. PS, I'm not saying he should buy a phone if that's what u were thinking.

[@tlturner3]

I was really hoping for more from the specifications! It feels like adding features like IBIS and 6K video should have been a no-brainer. If you're looking for inspiration, the Fuji X-S20, which came out last summer, really set a high bar. What do you think?

[@cy9nvs]

Here in Germany, the X-S20 is only 100€ more, and it's got 26 MP and IBIS. But I guess usable AF also accounts for something, so Nikon's price may be fair, lol. For a camera like this, I think the flippy screen is fine, I just feat that this will be their go-to for every new camera now, and I really don't want one on a Z9/Z8 II.

[@vickosis]

I hope not, I really don't like these flimsy flip out screens. I guess Nikon caved in to pressure from peeps demanding it after hearing various youtubers tell them they needed one, but the reality is that Nikon's other tilting screens, especially the ones that go both ways, are way better for photographers. I guess we can thank the incredible rise of all these flipping vloggers who seem to need to see themselves on a small screen and it's the curse of photography in general that manufacturers have to cater for them as well : (

[@jeffrey3205]

Jarad, the flip screen I've been using for years, as a portrait photographer I get to shoot at many angles in landscape and portrait without having to laying on the floor to get the shot! Also Jared, what are your thoughts about why we haven't seen the Z5ii as yet? That's the one I'd really like to see.

[@okaro6595]

The flip up screen is better in shooting at low angles. It is faster and it is not uncomfortably on the side like the fully articulating screen is.

[@jeffrey3205]

@okaro6595 that's providing you're shooting landscape and not portrait. For portrait photographers it's a dream come true.

[@mredward3969]

Still waiting to see a Nikon Z5 II

[@ciba20]

I think within a year.

[@livejames9374]

What full frame camera around $900 has ibis? The issue to me is small selection of dx lenses.

Nikon Z5 is around 1000 on sale, I bought one a couple of months ago (switched from D5600) and it's amazing. I looked into Sony a6700 and also wanted to wait for Z5 II, but couldn't wait anymore :D

[@facesart]

Z50ii for video 🥹 N Log and 10 bit 422 internally is the biggest feature for me

[@markwilliford7471]

Thanks as always Fro - good balanced review. Count me among those wishing for something closer to a Z D500, but I do like the fact that the battery can be charged in camera, and all the updated focus modes. This can be a lighter-weight thru-hiking camera and also a great second body to take to Africa, with AF that will likely outperform my Z7II.

[@BenitoF2009]

OK. I'll wait until the Z50 III comes out. Maybe they will add IBIS. Or they add a pop-up flash to a future Z6 IV. What ever comes first I'll take it. And until that I stay with my D5000.

[@weiyang6417]

No ibis...

[@hughjohns9110]

Well I would certainly not rather have full frame, I'd rather have the smaller size and lighter weight of APS-C lenses any day of the week. I've had my Z50II just 3 days, I'm already blown away by the image quality and noise is a lot better than I would have expected. I agree about a stabilised sensor and I would have happily paid quite a lot more to have one though I dare say it would have put the body size up a bit. That said, Fuji's stabilised X-S20 body is smaller than the Z50II. The AF might not be quite as good as Canon's but it's generally much nicer ergonomically than either the R10 or R7 (yes I have used both).

[@ScottJWaldron]

This type of upgrade would have made sense 2 or 3 years after the original Z50 was released. Now it's a bit odd and doesn't feel compelling compared to APS-C cameras from other manufacturers, and a lot of them like Sony's are really old. If we do see new versions of the Zfc and Z30, I'm not too hopeful they will have anything extra or special. I was hoping to see a Nikon version of a camera like the FX30 but if that camera does get updated it's probably going to be a cut down Z50ii.

[@chapstar1985]

Yeh it's an odd update. Not sure who this is aimed at. New photographers or people with very old cameras. It's not worth upgrading to otherwise

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Thank you gents, interesting introductory video. I hope you will get a chance to do a in depth testing and present the results of your professional analysis. Usually APSC entry level cameras don't get that much investigative attention. Keep up the good work.

[@carlosexsgi]

What no sniff test! Thanks for the review.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Saying it is only tweaks is greatly exaggerated, not objective and unfair. Sure I was hoping for IBIS, marketing decided otherwise. Probably to protect a future model. Perhaps a new entry level full frame ? For lots of users who were reasonably happy with their Z50 it is a cost effective way to update after a few years of usage. As someone rightfully put it the Z50 ii price is the original Z50's adjusted with inflation.

[@dougsaroma]

Nice that they have updated their DX knock-around camera, I'd be interested if I had a few extra bucks burning a hole in my pocket. But it seems like they could have easliy taken 3/4 of this camera, added some3 more advanced features, and put it in a man-sized weather sealed body with more external controls and satisfied the neglected segment of the ardent sports and wildlife shooters that have been craving a mirrorless D500 type camera. Please, Nikon, make it so!

[@josefmazzeo6628]

It seems Nikon could make a simple tweak to it's AF algorithm to detect "side eye" or "profiles" for better hit rates. Also, that was a low light, high contrast situation. A firmware update might me called for.

[@alphajam1]

In action sports I tend to reject the profile shots, they tend not to sell anyway. I know a birder that uses both Sony and Nikon and he says at the end of the day both systems have a similar keeper rate. When your using long primes I believe Nikon has the edge. I like the 45 megapixels, that's my sweet spot. Canon should have two flagships, one with 25 mp, and a 45.

[@Bmontepeque11]

This is pretty good :) Of course it would have been better with a new sensor and IBIS, but I still think this is a nice upgrade :) Better autofocus (Thanks to the Exspeed 7 in this case), is one of the main things I want out of new cameras and A VARIANGLE SCREEN. I literally cannot live without them because I do like taking selfies with actual camera quality. Now, I do agree with you, if I was buying this, I would prefer going to a Full-Frame camera, but it you can't afford it or want the extra zoom of an APS-C sensor crop for telephoto shots I think this is a ver nice camera :)

[@kyohiromitsu4010]

I was waiting for the Z50ii with IBIS to use with my 70-300AF-P. Thanks nikon

[@Austinite333]

My 70-300 AFP has IBIS.

[@josefmazzeo6628]

One other consideration too - when the D500 came out, full frame was much more expensive than crop sensors. Now the gap has narrowed significantly. But still I think a dedicated crop sensor pro body would fill a niche in the lineup for Nat Geo type photographers. This model is obviously targeted at the mass vlogger market, prosumer, just in time for the holidays....you know Santa will be placing lots of these Z50ii boxes under trees this season!

[@thenoobieditor]

How good is the AF compared to the og z50. From what i see it's only a tad bit better and not noticeable in most real scenarios. I have the og z50 for 5 months now and its good enough for me. The AF is also good. The mark 2 seems more like a makeover rather than a solid upgrade.

[@HagaishiSama]

Sony newest Vlog camera has a vertical mode as well! So it's shown vertically. I'm shocked you forgot about that

[@okaro6595]

Those simulations make sense if they can be easily changed. In Canon they are under a menu so I never use them. If you quickly can choose them for specific photo it makes more sense.

[@thomastuorto9929]

I’m not fully convinced Nikon is actually using subject detection. Seems a little more like contrast detection or it needs more learning/ subject recognition input for it pick from. A face profile should be pretty standard in today’s market but must admit, the typewriter scene was pretty busy.

[@georgivelev77]

Agree with you, but he showed what the camera is capable of in such situations. I was disappointed with how it failed to acquire focus when the kid was behind the net. Something is wrong with the detection algorithms - guess it can be fixed with a software update, if they supply one of course.

[@davidf6326]

'A face profile should be pretty standard in today’s market' - it could be if manufacturers shared IP, but that's not how the market works.

[@jean-charles9931]

It's still a good sensor, I compared it with the 26 Mpix Fuji and found it better, so who cares about its age, but Jared.... WHERE ARE THE DX LENSES? Come on Nikon, bring us a 16-80 f/2,8-4 VR in Z-mount!

[@andrewmason8691]

I strongly suspect Nikon will release a Z70/80/90 with a new sensor, high MP and IBIS.

[@Atrangi_chhap]

Hi, can you please suggest me if i have should wait for a better Z aps c camera or go with z50ii. I'm also fasinated with the nikon ZF for its looks, image quality, ibis etc. Yesterday i sold my D3400 and D7500 and i primarily do birding, safaris, landscape, cityscape/street in that priority order. My wishlist for a pro Z aps body would be a z50ii plus: 1. stacked sensor if not the atleast a 33mp sensor 2. ibis 3. additional card slot atleast a micro sd like the ZF 4. enel 15c battery. 5. Price $1500

[@ЮрийВенедиктович-т8ъ]

I would pay more for IBIS and light AA filter on sensor

[@jimixjimix5097]

"The best of the best with honours" killed me :)

[@alanyarwood5369]

I always enjoy your honest reviews. I currently use the nikon d7500 and looking to upgrade. I shoot mainly wildlife or macro. Would I be better off switching makes eg to cannon or Sony. Thinking long-term as the next camera would be my forever camera. Any advice welcome.

[@JoeSteel1]

updates in sensor, ibis, more money.....than why even buy this over the z6Iiii...it was a marketing move...still may just go with the z6 III

[@Cervin_Suisse]

The Z6 iii is nearly 3 times the price. Doesn't that justify the lower specs ? Yes I would have like to see an IBIS too.

[@JoeSteel1]

@Cervin_Suisse I meant the z6II

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@@JoeSteel1 OK

[@JaviBear001]

Where are the lenses for this though? I bought the original z50 back in 2019 and all they had were the two kit zooms. I enjoyed the small 16-50 and the camera was great, but there were never any lens releases for this thing in the two years I owned it. In the end I sold everything and went full frame and moved to Sony.

[@GungKrisna12]

Looks like Nikon needs a mirrorless equivalent to D500

[@vickosis]

Wasn't the retail price of the D500 back in the day around 2k? Considering inflation and price rised the Z50 II is priced a fraction of that which is something worth keeping in mind.

[@michaelcunningham1361]

@@vickosis I would be willing to pay $2500 for a Z80/90 with 33MP sensor and most of the features of the Z8. That would be a great addition to the Nikon lineup for wildlife photographers.

[@bencollins7684]

It's called a Z8, and you even get all the benefits of full frame when you want it!

[@СергейКравец-и5ю]

20.9MP APS-C sensor, Full-width 4K video up to 30p (60p with crop), sadly !

[@MattisProbably]

I loved my Z50! For an entry level camera it was super capable! Now I'm just disappointed that the new model has no IBIS. That would have been awesome, together with the 70-180 it would have been a pretty serious budget kit.

[@zaonarzn3405]

The video spec same as the R10 😢😅

[@MatsuXL]

Is the nlog feature worth it vs old sensor though? that's a tough one...

[@OnlyCitrus]

But the Expeed 7 processor is worth it

[@Frippin-MTBD80]

Yes, but Expeed7 is what makes this kick butt. Rolling shutter still a thing though.

[@ddraiss]

Can the film simulations be automatically applied to the raw file, when importing to lightroom, in the same way that most other Nikon cameras picture controls can be automatically applied

[@chuchonmc]

"DSLR are dead" But aps-c super mirrorless in 2024 - which is the future - use the sensor of the D500 of 2016

[@daveyboy6210]

20.9 sensors is like the full frame 24 sweet spot on full frame which was around 2016/17

[@GatorWinup]

In terms of the reflective mirror and the prism, yes DSLRs are dead. No new OVF, as the best OVFs are already accomplished in F5. The fact that D1-D6 use similar OVFs shows you how a mature technology should last. The same thing goes for chassis. The market demands a facelift every 3-5 years - this seems stupid when the same chassis lasts for a decade or more. Good engineering lasts. Bad market tastes don't. How people pursue "new" rather than "good" confuses me.

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Pentax KF is a much better option and cheaper 😮 !

[@carlmcneill1139]

You have to keep in mind that this is Nikon's entry level camera. The z30 is a vlogging camera and is not their entry level camera. I think Nikon messed up with the z30. It should have been the z10 and the z30 should have been the entry level body with a viewfinder just like the d3000 series. A z80 camera to replace the d500 is needed. I think it will come out next year. It will either have a fully stacked sensor like the z8 and z9 or a partial stacked sensor like the z6 III. I figure it will be partially stacked to save money. And because it's a smaller sensor. It will have a faster sensor as well. It will have IBIS and will be in a larger body. It will have 2 card slots. It will shoot 20 fps in raw. It may cost close to $2000 but that's still cheaper than a z8. People will buy it.

[@davidjohnson4451]

Way too Canon or Sony Mode. I try them all! My family OWNS a LOT of Sony gear. They say the Z 8 and Z 9 is WAY better! They are using a LOT of DJI, Black Magic. and RED. I am buying the Z 50 II. I still use the Z 50 with the 50-250 MANY days. The biggest thing NEEDED is the Sensor Shield! The pop up flash is GREAT! The Z 6 III I passed on. I SOLD the Z 6 II and that is about the only camera I sold! So a Z 6 III was a complete no go for me!

[@adamaufdencamp5080]

Should we not be buying and using presets?

[@gfxmaniac]

I guess R7 isn't that bad after all.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

9:43 holy moly👁️👄👁️🔥

[@samueldarko9383]

I have a good amount of Nikon glass with the z6ii but I was thinking of switching to Cannon as I am starting to get booked for wedding work. Not all the time as its a part time thing for me still and something I do for fun mainly.

[@livejames9374]

Don’t fall for the hype. Get a Z8

[@Alsayid]

So Jared, are you saying that, for the money, the Canon R50 is a better buy?

[@nikaberzina2478]

Nice, vintage camera.

[@christopherleonard3467]

I was really hoping for a second card slot even if it was a micro SD card like the ZF. Ibis would have been nice

[@davidf6326]

Not really a fair comparison - the Zf is a full frame camera.

[@Kevon420]

This would've been a banger if it had the 26MP BSI sensor we've seen in quite a few Fuji cameras (and the a6700) for awhile and decent IBIS. Not a bad camera but just misses the mark from being excellent.

[@mvp_kryptonite]

I would have tested this with regular lenses but looks alright save the sensor

[@michaelcunningham1361]

Does the Z50ii have the option to switch to a 1.33 crop, within camera, as one could do with the D7200 and D500? That would push the 28-400mm lens out to an 800mm equivalent, which would be nice for wildlife.

[@davidf6326]

Sorry to bring bad news, but you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how in-camera cropping works. Unless I'm missing something in what you're saying?

[@michaelcunningham1361]

@ Yes, you are missing something. I owned both the D7200 and D500, which are DX cameras, and thus inherently have a smaller sensor which provides an effective 1.5x magnification of the lens used. However, it was additionally possible to select a slightly smaller area of the frame on both of those cameras which provided an additional 1.33x effective magnification. Taken together, the 1.5 x 1.33 magnifications provided approximately an effective 2.0x magnification. If you check the tech specs for the D500, for example, on the Nikon site, you will see that the resolutions (in pixel dimensions) are given for both the full DX sensor and the 1.33 cropped down setting. I have always set my F1 button to allow me to quickly switch between the DX format and other format options available on those cameras, just as I do on my Z8, so I can quickly switch between FX and DX modes. I was hoping that the new Nikon Z50ii would allow for similar in-camera format changes.

[@davidf6326]

​@@michaelcunningham1361 Sorry, but you've just confirmed my belief that you're misunderstanding in-camera cropping. Yes, FF to APS-C does make a difference - though not without compromises. Cropping in-camera, however, is no different to cropping in post-processing - you lose pixels. Cropping in-camera simply uses a subsection of the sensor (The chart on page 94 of the D500 manual shows this clearly). All you're actually achieving by cropping at the time of shooting is a preview of the crop. I've never used in-camera cropping because, as I say, it's more or less pointless. As such, I can't be 100% certain on this final point, but I do suspect that if you're recording to JPEGs, the crop may be hardwired into the stored image. If that _is_ the case, then you'll be sacrificing recorded image area, which can't be recovered later, if you were change your mind on the aspect ratio.

[@michaelcunningham1361]

@@davidf6326 I have used Nikon cameras for well over 30 years. I know how they work, and I know the consequences of using a "crop-sensor" camera, such as a Nikon DX model. You are correct that cropping in camera, e.g., selecting the DX format in a Nikon full-frame camera, e.g., my Z8, or in-camera cropping a DX model, e.g my D7200, down to the 1.33x format sacrifices pixels, and that the same can be achieved by cropping the image in post processing. That is obvious to anyone who has experience in photography, but thanks for pointing it out. It is similar to switching from an FX camera to a DX camera for a shot, fewer pixels. But many wildlife photographers do exactly that, which is why the D500 was so popular with wildlife photographers, who were willing to sacrifice their beloved pixels for a camera with a 20MP sensor. While you may feel that in-camera cropping is "pointless", I find three advantages that are obvious to me: 1) it gets my image closer to the composition that I want to achieve; 2) it allows me to see more detail in my subject, perhaps even getting a better focus; and 3) it produces a smaller image size, allowing me to save more images on my media card, and later on my hard drive - why save pixels that I will only have to discard later. So, no I am not "misunderstanding in-camera cropping", I use it successfully for a purpose in my photography. Frankly, I find your responses insulting.

[@davidf6326]

​@@michaelcunningham1361 'It is similar to switching from an FX camera to a DX camera for a shot, fewer pixels.' - sorry Michael, but that's simply not correct. A 20MP sensor is a 20MP sensor, whether it's full frame or APS-C. Yes, within the Nikon range there are higher resolution options available on full frame, but that's introducing an additional factor. 'it produces a smaller image size' - only true if you record to jpeg exclusively (which I would personally avoid because it further limits post-processing). 'allowing me to save more images on my media card, and later on my hard drive' - whilst I'm not one to promote profligacy, the low cost of storage media these days means that storage capacity really shouldn't be a deciding factor. 'I use it successfully for a purpose in my photography.' - fine, if it works for you then it works for you I'm not sure why you should find my responses insulting, simply because I disagree with you. It certainly wasn't my intention to insult you.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

A couple of hundred more for a Z6 iii ? Here it is like almost a couple of thousands more 😇

[@daveyboy6210]

Its a thousand more lo

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@@daveyboy6210 Here the Z6iii is on sale on the Nikon website for the equivalent of USD 3206.-, whereas the Z50 ii is USD 1140.-. It obviously depends in which part of the world you live. Nevertheless saying that one might as well go for the Z6 iii is a bit far fetched no ? Then, for folks who don't have the budget to buy full frame lenses, that would be another substantial budget killer. Of course if the specs of the Z6 iii are needed it's a different story. I have watched a dozen Z50 ii review this morning and it is obvious that body is not a rival to the Z6iii. Just my opinion of course. On the other that USD 1K camer offers a lot for the price.

[@kachaya]

is it worth buying this with same old sensor and No IBIS. And not much third-party VR lenses around.

[@cse0355]

I will shake the camera vigorously in sony a6700 which is having 5 axis ibis..does it give you sharp image?

[@mtfplex1346]

12:10, the Z50 can do 11 FPS, not 5 or 6.

[@rubenb263]

When Z5 ✌🏼 👀

[@joetorres4810]

Only positive the z 50ii has is better autofocus. The z50 had 11 fps for 12 bit raw and 9 fps for 14 bit raw. Does the z 50ii and the new en el 25a battery tell me what battery percentage i currently have within the menu? I was hoping for more. Honestly want to switch to the R7

[@davidf6326]

I too was hoping for more, but I now suspect (and hope) this is Nikon leaving room for a Z70.

[@ghalibsworld]

No touch screen and 20 mp? But they offered an N-log and a good kit lens which is not offered by Canon r10. The R10 kit lens is just a night blind.

[@okaro6595]

With Canon one should get the longer kit. Sure it is bigger but no bigger than a DSLR with a normal kit.

[@ghalibsworld]

@okaro6595 indeed but Canon could just simply follow the M50's kit lens. It could be simple like 15-45mm F3.5 to 5.6/6.3

[@stepheneckert4006]

It has a touchscreen, just not the touchscreen “buttons” anymore

[@ghalibsworld]

@stepheneckert4006 it is not like R10. The touchscreen is only for autofocus.

[@stepheneckert4006]

@@ghalibsworld not sure where you’re getting your info from but I’ve personally used the camera (the one in this video) and can confirm it’s fully touchable. You can even see the touch boxes around the back of the screen (iso/aperture/etc) when were filming the camera…

[@Crop682]

If I want to make video as it is vedio centric flip out screen without IBIS what to do ?

[@mv3592]

Any information about Z5 ii ?📸

[@Crop682]

No IBIS , hand held stable video not possible

[@goldfries]

Haha, finally ditched that flip-down screen. Loved my Z 50 overall but that flip-down screen was horrible, and that "forced" me to get a Z fc. Anyway, sold off both and not regretted. I still think both of them are great cameras.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

What brand are you using now ? If I may ask.

[@goldfries]

@@Cervin_Suisse Canon now, with the R7 and R8.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@@goldfries Happier ?

[@goldfries]

@@Cervin_Suisse yes. Wouldn't have switched if I didn't gain something.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@@goldfries sometimes we make mistakes. Good that you are happy with your choice. 👍

[@totallynotmyeggalt6216]

As a DSLR user on an older Nikon DX body (D7000), I'll never upgrade to a mirrorless camera without IBIS. It's especially disappointing given that it is very unlikely Nikon has the capacity to develop even a midrange APS-C Z series camera for the time being.

[@ThatOneSceneDude]

Not much of an upgrade. I have two z50s already. looks like I'll be sticking with those.

[@DaleEverett]

Everyone has options, but for me no IBIS is a no go for me.

[@_cjmccullough]

Do you think they’ll refresh the Nikon Z5 soon?

[@chapstar1985]

It's rumoured to be announced any time

[@ciba20]

@@chapstar1985 I think within a year.

[@chapstar1985]

@@ciba20 it's rumoured to be released before the end of Jan

[@ShwarcArnold]

1Q 2025

[@derlangsame7813]

It's still a very good sensor though

[@TRobBrownPhotography]

Odd, the AF there looked way different than it looks on my Z9. Mine jumps from a large box lock on the body immediately to a medium box lock on the face and then a small box lock onto the eye and stays on it until you let go of the AF on button. It doesn’t have dozens of tiny boxes activated at once.

[@hazlinabdulhamid7461]

Malaysia noted..🇲🇾

[@iwankartawidjaja1611]

is there hot issue about long recording video ?

[@stepheneckert4006]

We filmed in the highest resolution/quality for nearly 40 minutes and didn’t have any overheating issues, granted it was indoors in a 68 degree environment

[@joshuaconti989]

so if it has the expeed 7, can it run the RED LUTs too? also bold of you to review a DX with FX lenses =)

[@froknowsphoto]

It can since it has 10-bit n-log now

[@joshuaconti989]

@@froknowsphoto sweet!

[@CritKnyt]

Now I’m hoping for a Z5 II as the real mini Z6 III.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

Another 2 year wait for that ?

[@ciba20]

@@Cervin_Suisse I think within a year.

[@Cervin_Suisse]

@@ciba20 That's a long time unfortunately.

[@MrBubinski777]

hey Jared @ 17:21 you said the Z63 is a couple hundred bucks more... where is this deal? its $2300 body only on B&H

[@Mersuharrastaja]

I was thinking that I upgraze my old Z50 to Mark ii if there is Ibis, but I think there is no reason for that.

[@froknowsphoto]

AF is slightly better but that's about it. Some nice video feature update, but that's it also

[@Mersuharrastaja]

@@froknowsphoto So I keep my Z50 Mark I and Z8 go for with those.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

What an old image sensor that produces beautiful pictures! But, where is IS?

[@matthieugille1914]

AF mode Birds dedicated on z50 II but not on he ZF as it cost the double price....please update ZF firmware...

[@patrickccreation1115]

16:38 little audio mistake ?

[@stepheneckert4006]

We were told wrong pricing at first and had to do some frankensteining with the audio. It is what it is

[@MegaTruck20]

I honestly wish it was $1500 and had at least a 24mp sensor, ibis, 20fps raw and maybe even a blackout free veiw finder. This is a parts bin baby at best. Very disapointing.

[@SingleTrack66]

Um, it’s the z50ii . So that’s an upgraded z50 for the same price. It’s like when we had the D5000 range, then the D5100 etc. Understand ? Also remember how we had the D7000 range and then the D500. All of these cameras were crop sensor and distinctly different, catering to different users. What you are describing is a Z70 .

[@MegaTruck20]

@SingleTrack66 um, nobody wanted an updated Z50 body. Understand? What we've wanted was a pro level aps-c body. A Z80. Remember when we had the d7200 and then Nikon released the d500? The baby brother to the pro D5? Yeah yeah, it's kinda like that. Understand?

[@SingleTrack66]

@@MegaTruck20 people have been calling for an updated z50 for a long time and here it is. It’s called the z50ii. So you’re very wrong. The apsc camera you are crying for is on its way. In the mean time either get yourself a z8 which is everything the d500 was plus its d850 and the d5 all in one. Or why don’t you just buy some canon or Sony thing that has what you want for $1500?

[@braddahjerry]

Secondly 🎉

[@pinkfatcap]

Its time you swallow the pill guys despite its hard, and realize that this camera is very good, for the people it is aimed at, not you, not everything is aiming at you.

[@omermagen824]

That pain in the טוכעס caught me off guard xD

[@mynameisnotcory]

All i needed was some ibis

[@Ben_Stewart]

Which other intro Camera's have IBIS?

[@mynameisnotcory]

@ i guess a used z5

[@josephchan4198]

Thanks for info.