Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer's Star Ratings For AEW All Out 2024

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@Sansri16761
@Sansri16761 3 ай бұрын
I'll just paraphrase the man one more time. "If you're happier over a 5 star rating from some Internet goof over the amount of tickets sold and money made, we are not in the same business" - CM Punk
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 3 ай бұрын
My man has a point
@ggaa111100
@ggaa111100 3 ай бұрын
Can't argue with that.
@SteOhara
@SteOhara 3 ай бұрын
That's not paraphrasing that's quoting
@berkajr3685
@berkajr3685 3 ай бұрын
Finally something we agree on
@thehorrorhound6575
@thehorrorhound6575 3 ай бұрын
The biggest irony is that it’s CM Punk who said this. People don’t know this but CM Punk used to be one of Dave’s favorites. CM Punk vs Samoa Joe 2 in ROH in 2004 was the first match in the United States to get a 5 star rating from Dave meltzer since 1997. That’s SEVEN YEARS. Think of every match you saw in the attitude era of rock vs Austin, Austin vs undertaker, Austin vs Bret hart, Christ Benoit vs Bret hart, taz vs BAM BAM Bigalow. Dave is telling you CM Punk and Samoa Joe was better than all of those people. In 2011 CM Punk vs John Cena was the first 5 star match Dave gave WWE in FOURTEEN YEARS. According to Dave CM Punk vs John Cena at money in the bank 2011 is better than any match you ever saw in WWE since 1997. And it was Punk who said that about the 5 stars. The man who brought them back to America and back to WWE.
@YeTism
@YeTism 3 ай бұрын
Kurt Angle should sign with AEW. He wil finally get a 5 star match, even if he can’t wrestle anymore.
@xmasterx4510
@xmasterx4510 3 ай бұрын
Lol that’s funny because it’s true and Kurt said before in clip on his channel saying he was offered 10 million to have a match with Kenny Omega which he would’ve gave them 6-10 stars 😂 which Kurt would’ve carried him out of his prime if they did
@Aphelion_k9f
@Aphelion_k9f 3 ай бұрын
He'll die in the ring and the death will get 4.75 stars
@Apocalypse3434
@Apocalypse3434 3 ай бұрын
He still wouldn't have a 5 star match because Dave would give him 6 stars.
@david83ryan
@david83ryan 3 ай бұрын
Finger poke of doom would get 6stars from Dave if it happened on AEW
@FatherJacksBrick
@FatherJacksBrick 3 ай бұрын
@@xmasterx4510it’s not just true… it’s “DAM TRUE!” 😂
@ericgilbert56
@ericgilbert56 3 ай бұрын
So Danielson never had 5 stars until he came to AEW... You see Kurt? There is a way.
@davidjsaul
@davidjsaul 3 ай бұрын
Yet Dave insists he isn't biased in favour of AEW. Danielson spent years at WWE in his prime and never got five stars. He moves to AEW when he's older, less mobile and basically broken and is suddenly getting five star matches. Ditto Moxley 😂
@mmmdule
@mmmdule 3 ай бұрын
None of the Orton - Bryan matches got 5 stars. Think about that
@ksdnsdkumar1375
@ksdnsdkumar1375 3 ай бұрын
Kurt is now a meme.
@2400jets
@2400jets 3 ай бұрын
@@davidjsaulthe wrestlemania 37 main event star rating is when Dave really lost all credibility in my eyes…. He’s been pretty whack for a long time but that match was absolutely 5 stars & he acted like it was soooo average
@takabotch
@takabotch 3 ай бұрын
So Bryan never had a 5 star match a when he's at Ring of Honor?
@tristhekid
@tristhekid 3 ай бұрын
CM Punks quote about star ratings in a half empty building continue to age well and I don’t think they will ever age poorly
@Vardimiss
@Vardimiss 3 ай бұрын
Just wait till Osprey and Ricochet have a match in front of the AEW crowd. First 8 star match from Uncle Dave incoming.
@Aphelion_k9f
@Aphelion_k9f 3 ай бұрын
Ricochet goes from wrestling in front of 13,000 people to 3,000 people, but I'm sure the star ratings will be worth it.
@josephwedding9839
@josephwedding9839 3 ай бұрын
I’m starting to think not everyone cums to will osprey matches
@SlutBurgerWithCheese
@SlutBurgerWithCheese 3 ай бұрын
@@Aphelion_k9fdont forget edge came off a wrestlemania main event to go play with his butt buddy christian
@bled83
@bled83 3 ай бұрын
Uncle Dave cumming, you mean.
@vince11harris
@vince11harris 3 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Will Ospreay has 42 5 star matches. He has more 5 star matches than Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels,Okada, Jericho, Edge Triple H and The Rock… Combined😂😂😂😂
@Devypocalypse
@Devypocalypse 3 ай бұрын
Throw in Bret, Austin, Taker, Perfect, Flair, etc to that as well. Un-fucking-real.
@DavidDexterGaming
@DavidDexterGaming 3 ай бұрын
It shows how stupid Dave Meltzer is and how much he doesn't understand pro wrestling. He judges matches solely on the amount of moves in a match, how flippy they were and how much he likes the guys and the company they are in. Nothing else comes into consideration. Selling, logic, Psychology and realism mean absolutely nothing to Dave Meltzer.
@patshowiedoit5340
@patshowiedoit5340 3 ай бұрын
And yet if you ask 50 people on the street who Will Ospreay is, maybe only 4 or 5 would know.
@talkanders6058
@talkanders6058 3 ай бұрын
50 people? 1 maybe.... tops!
@xymoriintus
@xymoriintus 3 ай бұрын
Nobody gives a fuck about that except hardcore wrestling Marks including the Mark ass wrestlers themselves. Dave meltzer is absolutely nothing but a spec of dust in the history of wrestling he will be absolutely forgotten
@flintsrevenge4356
@flintsrevenge4356 3 ай бұрын
Kurt Angle won a gold medal with a broken freakin’ neck. But Mercedes Mone had a PPV match with a broken freakin’ wig!
@whisperienced
@whisperienced 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but you only have one neck. Try multiplying that by how many hairs a wig has. That's so much more painful.
@Legit_Awesome
@Legit_Awesome 3 ай бұрын
​@whisperienced are you joking?
@whisperienced
@whisperienced 3 ай бұрын
@@Legit_Awesome yes
@Legit_Awesome
@Legit_Awesome 3 ай бұрын
Cool
@adamlee9461
@adamlee9461 3 ай бұрын
​@brendandenamadrai5353 My pets have already been eaten I think 😮the check bounced
@Zantar45
@Zantar45 3 ай бұрын
Dave: "I really don't like these matches, but I gave Willow vs Statlander 4.75 stars because lots of people seemed to like it" Also Dave: _"I really hated Hulk vs Andre at Wrestlemania, negative 4 stars. I'm sorry if lots of people loved it and it made millions of dollars & memories, I didn't like it"_
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones 3 ай бұрын
Shows how hypocritical Dave is.
@Raygetsu
@Raygetsu 3 ай бұрын
"No stars applied to this." Well, so does AEW.
@PhillyLeotardo25
@PhillyLeotardo25 3 ай бұрын
We know that having CM Punk being the face of the company 😂 yeah Punk more over than Rock. No wonder his return to Chicago and all anyone could talk was Mama Rhodes kid getting whipped
@henrygvidonas9573
@henrygvidonas9573 3 ай бұрын
No mention of the wig. No mention of the potatoes and receipts earlier in the match either. Moné rolled out to avoid getting a _roll_ of receipts from Shida at one point. At least that's what it looked like. There was more than "sloppiness" going on. All of that happened before the last third of the match, when Shida pulled the wig loose during that standing punching spot, accidentally or not. Then that drama went on for five or six minutes, all the way to the awful-looking finisher. Move, wig adjust, move, wig adjust, move, wig adjust... Monè's kickout at "one" seemed more _shoot_ spiteful than anything else, too. Sooner or later we'll find out what exactly happened backstage after the match, too. I wouldn't be too surprised if we never see Moné and Shida in the same match in AEW again. What a weird fascinating total mess. Apparently, Dave missed the most interesting parts of it entirely. Figures!
@DavidOwen-yv8wz
@DavidOwen-yv8wz 3 ай бұрын
Bleacher Report gave it a B+ and didn’t mention the wig.
@georgeh4171
@georgeh4171 3 ай бұрын
Mercedes wig coming off while Shida just kept hammering her with receipts was peak comedy 😂
@DavidH1
@DavidH1 3 ай бұрын
Okay... sold! I need to watch this one now.
@ethanellis2896
@ethanellis2896 3 ай бұрын
You should be replacing dave with that sort of mindset for a wrestling review! Lol
@stephengibbons4771
@stephengibbons4771 3 ай бұрын
I've been looking and very few people are discussing how the Shida/Mone match absolutely fell apart in the final third. I'd love to know what the hell happened here, you could clearly see Mone talking to Shida during one of the covers. It seems like there was more going on than just the wig issue. Miscommunication, sloppy moves, that kickout at one after 3 Katanas (only one of which looked decent). After All Out, almost all of the discussion was about the plastic bag/cinder block spots, but I'd love to hear someone deep dive on what happened to with shida/Mone
@ramontorres8424
@ramontorres8424 3 ай бұрын
We were a lighter, a heated tablespoon, and an arm vein away from having Dave rate Swerve vs Hangman 5 stars.
@rl318
@rl318 3 ай бұрын
They are saving that for the Christmas Special.
@nexusassoon8367
@nexusassoon8367 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@bradcarver8127
@bradcarver8127 3 ай бұрын
@rl318 Followed up by their New Years show Methadone Madness.
@davidsobilo9622
@davidsobilo9622 3 ай бұрын
​@@bradcarver8127 as a 20 year methadone patient I take offense to that!!!!! Lol
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 3 ай бұрын
​@@davidsobilo9622so still addicted either way?
@JaculaDudek
@JaculaDudek 3 ай бұрын
No charisma express, Claudio castagnoli and wheeler yuta 😂😂😂
@SheevPalpatine
@SheevPalpatine 3 ай бұрын
I'm afraid this gets my lowest rating ever: seven thumbs up." - Homer Simpson or Dave Meltzer. It's getting Harder to tell.
@misterelom
@misterelom 3 ай бұрын
Lol I just watched that Simpsons episode again recently
@6steveo9
@6steveo9 3 ай бұрын
Meltzer is the Gregg Turkington of wrestling journalism. Everything is a 5 bagger.
@mahakalavanilla6263
@mahakalavanilla6263 3 ай бұрын
“I absolutely hated this match. It was complete garbage. But it was over with the crowd. 5.5⭐️”- Melted Brain
@akamiguelsanchez9985
@akamiguelsanchez9985 3 ай бұрын
Apart from Rock vs Hogan which should get -****
@eiephants
@eiephants 3 ай бұрын
And the crowd goes mild!
@SaulAguilar.
@SaulAguilar. 3 ай бұрын
He gave taker vs Shawn at wm 25 4.75 because of the cameraman messed up 💀
@georgeh4171
@georgeh4171 3 ай бұрын
*sticks tongue out 😛
@matthewhostetter8974
@matthewhostetter8974 3 ай бұрын
If Swerve/Hangma'am was 4.5 Stars why is every match in ECW not 4.5 stars?
@wombatgirl997
@wombatgirl997 3 ай бұрын
Every time a new Dave video comes out I am always reminded of an old Observer Awards video that Jim did where he looked back at the history of certain awards to see how the standards had gone down, and he quickly discovered that even back in the 90s Dave would give awards to random Japanese wrestlers nobody in the US ever heard of.
@MrStupidlook
@MrStupidlook 3 ай бұрын
It blows my mind how the wrestling industry has validated this dirt sheet mark by caring about and acknowledging his star ratings for so long.
@elite_artist351
@elite_artist351 3 ай бұрын
Because he has some kind of recognition, and so long as someone is telling these idiots that they are great…they’ll really think it
@Kancerru
@Kancerru 3 ай бұрын
Everytime I see someone crying over Angle never getting 5 stars, I cringe. Meltzer's opinion doesn't fucking matter!
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 3 ай бұрын
The wrestling industry hasn't. WWE won't touch him with a barge pole except to throw obvious misinformation his way and see if he will print it. TNA doesn't care. Impact. WCW didn't. ECW didn't. AEWful does. Ergo not the whole industry.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Kancerruit's not whining about it it's pointing out a massive flaw in his ratings system. It sort of used to be based off of how it went as a whole barring one or two exceptions (rock v Hogan for example) now it's whoever tickles his pickle gets praise heaped on them for basically doing nothing but flipping and being crimson all day. And we love bringing up cos it's pure Schadenfreude.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 3 ай бұрын
The wrestling doesn't validate him and never has. AEWful does however. One company.
@NJTRAF
@NJTRAF 3 ай бұрын
It's been nearly 15 years since I last worked in medicine, but from what I remember around Concussions/CTE etc. it's not so much the one-off hits to the head that are the problem, like chair shots (although they obviously DO contribute) but it's the multiple hits, multiple Concussions that are undiagnosed and then getting another one. If you look at Bret Hart's incident in the match with Goldberg, not long before the kick, he did the Figure 4 on the ring post spot and hit the BACK of his head off the floor, THEN he takes the kick to the head and IMMEDIATELY falls and slams the BACK of his head off of the mat. So he could have already been concussed from the Figure 4 spots, then took the kick to the head and got another immediate concussion when his head slammed off the mat. Obviously the unprotected chair shots ARE bad, and DO contribute, but not in of themselves, otherwise Mick Foley would be drooling in a fucking corner right now! So would Terry Funk have been ... I think it's more the hitting the back of the head on the mat when taking a bump alot of the time that cause the initial concussion, or multiple hits like that in one match or on consecutive nights with live tours. With AEW, weirdly, the fact these chucklefucks only wrestle once a week - at most - might actually do them a favour and inadvertently protect them from the absolute worst effects. In the 80's when Jim was on the road, the guys were wrestling 6 or 7 nights a week, they could hit their head on Monday and by Sunday have done if 5/6 more times and had multiple concussions ... fast forward and it fucks them up in later years
@markdawson7255
@markdawson7255 3 ай бұрын
In his autobiography, Bret also says after the Goldberg match he stayed on the road, did house show matches vs Sid, and took the Powerbomb on a nightly basis. That can't have helped.
@NJTRAF
@NJTRAF 3 ай бұрын
@@markdawson7255 Jesus... I didn't know that... I feel bad for Bret, of course, because if that had happened a few years later with the concussion protocols he'd probably have been protected better, plus I can't remember if it's post-concussion syndrome or something that happens after a stroke that people can become obsessed with something and it feels a bit like Bret's become obsessed with a hatred for Goldberg, even though he will have had alot of concussions prior to that one, and Goldberg has apologised on numerous occasions, said it was a complete accident and even recently I think with CVV said he wasn't ready and hadn't had enough training, I know it ended his career early and of course you'd be angry about it, but even though he is my all time favourite wrestler I do wish sometimes he'd just accept that it's a mistake, mistakes happen, accidents happen and let it go. I mean for fucks sake, he forgave Vince, Shawn and WWE not only for the Screwjob but obviously the death of Owen which was an accident.
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
The only person to blame for Brett's injury is Brett... The Goldberg incident was a fuck up and the concussions in that match were mostly because of how Brett took bumps. I say that as someone with training who knows how to take a bump. The fact he is obsessed with the idea of Goldberg being at fault shows that he isn't able to rationally analyse his own contribution to his career ending.
@user-ez9ng2rw9c
@user-ez9ng2rw9c 3 ай бұрын
​​@@jediknight1294that's unfair. Goldberg was definitely the big incident and that kick definitely caused a lot more damage than any other bump. Goldberg was an unsafe worker and everyone says so, he had next to no training.
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
@@user-ez9ng2rw9c that's not how that kind of Injury happens though, repeated concussion is the issue rather than one large single impact
@rubenarriaga3029
@rubenarriaga3029 3 ай бұрын
Reminder Kurt Freakin Angle never has had a 5 star match according to Meltzer
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 3 ай бұрын
If being fair - Kurt would've had like 15-25 5 star ratings by 2014 following modern Dave logic.
@milocooper9540
@milocooper9540 3 ай бұрын
And Bryan Danielson didn't either until he joined the dub.
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 ай бұрын
Ospreay has 50 of em
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 ай бұрын
but he had a lot of 5 star banger all timers according to me, and my opinion is as valuable as Dave's. 🤭
@FrozenSurf
@FrozenSurf 3 ай бұрын
He hardly gave any matches 5 stars when Kurt was in his prime
@jovanss2361
@jovanss2361 3 ай бұрын
I like Cesaro, but I popped hard af when Brian said "the No charisma express, Claudio and Wheeler Yuta" 🤣
@toniyakovlev4403
@toniyakovlev4403 3 ай бұрын
Not too long ago some were complaining that "WNBAs contracts need to be on par with NBA" and the obvious answer was "there's no interest in WNBA and 'nobody' watches it" so Dave saying WNBA was the reason Collisions ratings tanked is PEAK comedy.
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 3 ай бұрын
@@brendandenamadrai5353 finally some good fucking food in these comments
@zachg2735
@zachg2735 3 ай бұрын
Blocking should be how chair shots are handled. Putting your hands up to block is a natural instinct but you're still gonna get knocked down from the force.
@gumdrops7842
@gumdrops7842 3 ай бұрын
AEW Locker room: Moral down over ratings and half empty arenas Tony: Everything is great! This is where the best wrestle. Look at how many 5 star matches we have compared to the WWE.
@thomasleffler6721
@thomasleffler6721 3 ай бұрын
Of course Dave doesn’t like Acclaimed because they actually got over until his friends squashed that shit
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 3 ай бұрын
Lmaooo true
@CSG370
@CSG370 3 ай бұрын
Big facts
@armandogomez2677
@armandogomez2677 3 ай бұрын
Jim in the red dress looks like an older Tessa Blanchard
@archiecalkins4790
@archiecalkins4790 3 ай бұрын
I can here to ask why Tessa Blanchard was in the thumbnail
@DigitalTimothyski
@DigitalTimothyski 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂💀
@mattlong81
@mattlong81 3 ай бұрын
Is she standing outside a PF Chang’s
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 3 ай бұрын
A shittin image
@HappyCentaur-jm9lm
@HappyCentaur-jm9lm 3 ай бұрын
Dave justifying his match ratings and his love for AEW on social media, especially on Twitter/X, will never get old.
@lexruthless8263
@lexruthless8263 3 ай бұрын
He argues with strangers all day long.
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 ай бұрын
he's like a teenage girl defending her favorite boy band
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 3 ай бұрын
🇰🇷or🇯🇵​@@TomFoolery350
@SkullKnightmare775
@SkullKnightmare775 3 ай бұрын
That fact that Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar in the 60-minute Iron Man match wasn't giving 5 Stars, but matches on this PPV are rated higher, is absolute BULLSHIT.
@manuelper
@manuelper 3 ай бұрын
Take the exact same match between Kurt and Shane and replicate it in AEW and it gets at least 5 stars.
@SkullKnightmare775
@SkullKnightmare775 3 ай бұрын
@@manuelper 6 Stars if it's in the Tokyo Dome.
@thomasryan4872
@thomasryan4872 3 ай бұрын
John cena vs cm punk money in he bank 6 ⭐️s
@rambo_on_pills945
@rambo_on_pills945 3 ай бұрын
​@@SkullKnightmare775😂😂😂😂
@tobiasfarragut292
@tobiasfarragut292 3 ай бұрын
You can’t honestly be surprised by this…how long have you been listening to the show?
@natemachado9113
@natemachado9113 3 ай бұрын
You know in his way...Jim actually cares about all these people. Not as though they are close friends or relatives, but that they are in/ or from this business where if you do things right, think smart, and act accordingly you can make a good living and not kill yourself to do it. And other then ruining the image of wrestling, I think that might be what bothers Jim the most. Or at least that's how I see a part of it.
@michaellee8816
@michaellee8816 3 ай бұрын
The Syringe itself got 5 stars
@bipolarminddroppings
@bipolarminddroppings 3 ай бұрын
More than 1% of people have a phobia of hyperdermic syringes, I'm one of them. The moment one comes on TV I change the channel and I don't change it back for a good long while, if ever. I'm usually just done with that TV show for the day. I had a real hard time getting through an episode of House MD... So right there, 1% of their audience pretty much turned the channel or turned the tv off for a couple minutes.
@louis3141
@louis3141 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be 5 cc’s? 😂
@mikescott8903
@mikescott8903 3 ай бұрын
​@@bipolarminddroppingsso either you're saying that you are 1 % of the aew audience or that somehow 100 % of people with this phobia are aew fans and watching it at that time....which one?
@TakerKaneanite619
@TakerKaneanite619 3 ай бұрын
​@mikescott8903 If you're in a room with 100 people, chances are that 1 person has the phobia. If 600,000 people watch a show, then chances are that 6000 people have the phobia. That's what he's saying, not either of the ways you have read into it.
@mikescott8903
@mikescott8903 3 ай бұрын
@@TakerKaneanite619 no for the ratio to be one person you would have to be in a room with 70 million people. That's one percent. So unless you are unable to read...they said more than one percent of people have it ...which means around 70 million people. They then said "right there you lost 1% of your audience" meaning that that person is one percent of the audience or all 7 million people are one percent of the audience aew has and stopped watching. It's not hard to get. Read slower next time
@DanaHoltzbert
@DanaHoltzbert 3 ай бұрын
"You took a wonderful shit." Wait, is this about Tessa Blanchard?
@justcheese600
@justcheese600 3 ай бұрын
I always liked the Kurt angle headgear with the fake hair on after it got shaved off lol
@robertreynolds1768
@robertreynolds1768 3 ай бұрын
21:05 the Montreal Glue Job
@billyn7757
@billyn7757 3 ай бұрын
Im surprised Corny hasnt talked about Uncle Dave talking about "idiot podcasters" yet. Dutch talked about it this week. I hope Corny talks about this sometime.
@LoPhatKao
@LoPhatKao 3 ай бұрын
unlike viagra, you gotta wait 10 days for stuff to go down
@thedespairsquid399
@thedespairsquid399 3 ай бұрын
I've actually been waiting for this video more than the review of Swerve and Page 😂
@DrMario-
@DrMario- 3 ай бұрын
I’m convinced that Dave uses a 5 star scale for WWE and 7 star scale for everything else, especially AEW and Japanese wrestling.
@Platform246
@Platform246 3 ай бұрын
Same
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
That is pretty much how it started
@MrShadowSmith
@MrShadowSmith 3 ай бұрын
I'm not kidding Dave said the star rating is infinite. He could give Ostrich vs Ricoshit 100 stars for all we know 😂
@jamesmcv
@jamesmcv 3 ай бұрын
This is the best thumbnail in the history of the channel. Part of the fun of these videos is figuring out what the hell Jim said that gives context to it.
@Christoffski
@Christoffski 3 ай бұрын
Listening to Ole Anderson roast Meltzer on the phone is too much. 😅
@Raj80191
@Raj80191 3 ай бұрын
Will Ospreay should wrestle a slinky, Meltzer will give it 6 stars.
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 ай бұрын
to be fair, most of his opponents have the slinky style anyway
@ValiantValium
@ValiantValium 3 ай бұрын
The slinky can do all those crazy flippy things. 7 stars.
@matthewhostetter8974
@matthewhostetter8974 3 ай бұрын
Man once Meltzer finds a new golden boy to replace Ospreay, the BRUV boy is going to have a mental breakdown
@Rjensen2
@Rjensen2 3 ай бұрын
It's still amazes me how people constantly complain about Meltzer, yet take his star ratings seriously.
@greer504
@greer504 3 ай бұрын
Dave’s star ratings are adjusted for inflation.
@gazb2740
@gazb2740 3 ай бұрын
We need Jim and Brian to start doing the real star ratings.
@benjambreeg
@benjambreeg 3 ай бұрын
Everything would be half star to three stars max lol
@gazb2740
@gazb2740 3 ай бұрын
@@benjambreeg Sounds about right for what AEW is producing
@vb2806
@vb2806 3 ай бұрын
No we don't. Jim is much more nuanced in his reviews than to put a star rating on it
@EdwardLujan-y3f
@EdwardLujan-y3f 3 ай бұрын
I’ve had bowel movements with more personality than Botcha Tanks 😂😂😂
@SamoIsKing
@SamoIsKing 3 ай бұрын
Will Ospreay has more 5 star matches than the entire history of the WWE.
@Gavin48
@Gavin48 3 ай бұрын
& hardly anyone has seen them compared to Catcus Jack vs Triple H or Stone Cold Vs The Rock
@briannettles669
@briannettles669 3 ай бұрын
Will Ospreay and Kenny Omega combined have more than three times the 5-star matches than the entire history of the WWF/WWE. 😆
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 3 ай бұрын
Well AEW doesn't deserve any credit, but this is a dub for Autism nation it must be said
@robertm.3520
@robertm.3520 3 ай бұрын
.....And no one cared.
@caorosco83
@caorosco83 3 ай бұрын
Whoever created the graphic of Uncle Dave needs to be showered with bags of cash 😂
@stevedavis2473
@stevedavis2473 3 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, who gives a fuk about his ratings.
@thedespairsquid399
@thedespairsquid399 3 ай бұрын
Well if there wasn't meltzer star ratings we wouldn't get these Cornette star rating review videos 😂😂
@Jahkayhla
@Jahkayhla 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the stuntmen in AEW do, so they're performing for his rating rather than to make money.
@alphaotakux
@alphaotakux 3 ай бұрын
People with taste
@syko2695
@syko2695 3 ай бұрын
​@@alphaotakux Yeah I guess bad taste still counts as taste
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 ай бұрын
Just sth to laugh at
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
How many legitimate top guys never got 5 STARS... WHAT THE FUCK.
@grant1739
@grant1739 3 ай бұрын
Luckily Dave's opinions mean nothing
@DavidDexterGaming
@DavidDexterGaming 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Daniel Garcia getting more stars than Curt Hennig, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle ever did, it just shows how stupid Dave Meltzer is.
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
@@grant1739 except he's seen as credible whicg is just deoressibg
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
@@DavidDexterGaming Daniel Garcia better than Hart and Angle, what the fuck is this timeline
@sheepdavis
@sheepdavis 3 ай бұрын
​@@jediknight1294 nobody sees Meltzer as credible.
@Jay-ek9fu
@Jay-ek9fu 3 ай бұрын
Undertaker and Shawn Michaels at WM 25 didn't get 5 Stars but the Video Game Match with Ocean Spray and PAC is. You can't tell me he's not on their Payroll.
@Nicholaus13
@Nicholaus13 3 ай бұрын
Im with Cornette and Last on the chair thing. Theyre fine as long as the receiver gets their hand up. None of this "dont block or youll get fined" nonsense.
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
Brain injuries from chair shots will just be replaced with spinal damage from dives to the outside
@libertines24
@libertines24 3 ай бұрын
Meltzer giving mid matches like osprey and pac 5.5 stars tells me he isn’t serious or has lost his mind.
@billcrotts5456
@billcrotts5456 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Jim didn't know Mercedes was wearing a wig before this match is pretty funny
@ivah5353
@ivah5353 3 ай бұрын
OMG is the Mercedes Moan wig thing true??? I can not! 🤣 🤣
@raysiva
@raysiva 3 ай бұрын
They almost got the wig over. Sadly, the crowd didn’t pop and the wig went to the locker room in sadness
@alankidd6832
@alankidd6832 3 ай бұрын
Its happened a couple times in her career
@jaylay3935
@jaylay3935 3 ай бұрын
The wig would’ve got 7 stars in the Tokyo Dome…
@jediknight1294
@jediknight1294 3 ай бұрын
​@@raysiva the wig never had the making of a varsity athlete.
@DavidDexterGaming
@DavidDexterGaming 3 ай бұрын
It became a stipulation mid match, Shida could win if she removed the wig but Mercedes was holding onto that wig for dear life! 😂
@ericgilbert56
@ericgilbert56 3 ай бұрын
Friday? I thought the horse's name was Aubrey?
@Forever_Thatter
@Forever_Thatter 3 ай бұрын
that's its kayfabe name. its real name is Edward
@jerodgraham6623
@jerodgraham6623 3 ай бұрын
@@Forever_Thatter I thought it was Don.
@ggaa111100
@ggaa111100 3 ай бұрын
​@Forever_Thatter I see what you did there Mr.!!
@smithmeister
@smithmeister 3 ай бұрын
Meltz has the ultimate face for radio. What an UMF.
@williamhild1793
@williamhild1793 3 ай бұрын
So when AEW has allowed itself to be whittled down to 200,000 people who watch on TV, and 1000 tickets sold for their events, will Dave still defend them to the hilt? TNA is catching up to AEW as the second biggest promotion in the USA. AEW could slip to third if they allow this nonsense to continue.
@GodotOfficial
@GodotOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Uncle Dave would have given that syringe 7 stars if it was at the Tokyo Dome
@Antonchigurh00
@Antonchigurh00 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 thank you for this comment I needed it. Lmao
@BadLion12k
@BadLion12k 3 ай бұрын
Mercedes wig sticks around about as long as her viewers
@pedrolantyer
@pedrolantyer 3 ай бұрын
I just wanted to remind y'all that HBK vs Undertaker at Manias 25 and 26 didn't get 5 stars, none of the Orton vs Bryan matches got 5 stars. Ishii and Lars Sullivan have more 5 star ratings than Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle. Let that sink in
@cipherpac
@cipherpac 3 ай бұрын
Jim's point about the long term effects of repetitive bumping is exactly why I think it's crazy that people criticize part timers or the amount of matches on WWE TV. Especially for guys who have been in the industry for 15+ years and wrestled 500+ matches, as a fan I expect those guys to be protected and given a lighter workload. Even some of the newer guys on the main roster have a decade of bumping under their belt (Gunther, Priest, etc) They already gave their body to the business and will have a rough road ahead. They should be able to enjoy wrestling a few high profile matches in exotic locations during the last 5-10 years of their careers, and have the best times of their lives while they still have some youth and health to enjoy it.
@acerrimmer9066
@acerrimmer9066 3 ай бұрын
I went to aew event fell down steps on way to seat and got a 4.5 rating
@LightninPanda69
@LightninPanda69 3 ай бұрын
If I was a female heel working a wrestling match and my wig fell off during said match, I would milk that for a reaction for as long as I lived. How did they not improv a single spot after the hair issues started?
@NotAdultingToday
@NotAdultingToday 3 ай бұрын
More then once I've seen the women in wwe/nxt have extensions come out during the match yell at their opponent for ripping their hair out. 😅 Makes me respect them more.
@RyanS881
@RyanS881 3 ай бұрын
13:30 Kurt Angle actually got 4.75 star match against Undertaker
@televiper11
@televiper11 3 ай бұрын
The 70s star got CTE related dementia just from taking bumps. Each flat back bump you take rattles your brain.
@WallyHays
@WallyHays 3 ай бұрын
I know anyone with a lick of sense who follows wrestling has been making fun of Meltzer for losing his mind over the last 3+ years but the last month or two has been REALLY unhinged from Uncle Dave.
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour 3 ай бұрын
Coincides with the WBD negotiations not going so well, most likely 😂
@raysiva
@raysiva 3 ай бұрын
Stephen P New with the hair clause in the contract!
@DavidDarnold-1980
@DavidDarnold-1980 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the various 5 or 5+ star matches Dave Meltzer has given out for AEW this year, which is 8 in total, 7 of them have included Will Ospreay. Yeah...that's just kinda sad.
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
The new Omega
@thesterlingstudies
@thesterlingstudies 3 ай бұрын
I will admit, what Jim started with has happened to me: It was Sunday, I once was told "come to Starbucks next Friday at 5:30pm; I show up the next Friday and no one showed and they texted me at 5:45pm - "next week Friday they meant". 😖
@Madashell1200
@Madashell1200 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who still values Dave Meltzer's ratings of anything probably invested in fidget spinners.
@JoeMercersWay
@JoeMercersWay 3 ай бұрын
My usual methodology for Dave's ratings is deduct 2 for AEW and add 1 for WWE. It might be deduct 5 for AEW this time.
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
AEW - 4 star is the minimum, a run of the mill match.
@Kratosx23
@Kratosx23 3 ай бұрын
Oh thank God, it’s my favourite recurring segment. You know that someone figured out that Will Ospreay has more 5 star matches than the combined efforts of WWE, WCW. ROH, TNA, ECW and Jim Crockett promotions. What a tool our crazy old Uncle is.
@kevinbray909
@kevinbray909 3 ай бұрын
Did you know that Mohels don't receive any payment for their services? They only work for tips....
@DavidH1
@DavidH1 3 ай бұрын
Dave on Swerve-Hangman: Can't find anything good to say to Bryan, says his friends were all repulsed by it, & goes on a long rant about chairshots & CTE... gives it ****1/2. WTF
@trolleyman98
@trolleyman98 3 ай бұрын
I never heard of Dave meltzer before this podcast and he's like a real life movie character
@kennedymiyamoto4314
@kennedymiyamoto4314 3 ай бұрын
2:02 actually spit my drink out the segment prior was actually comical lmaoooo
@Ravenstorm163
@Ravenstorm163 3 ай бұрын
The problem is more piledrivers and less chairs on head
@rachjohnson180
@rachjohnson180 3 ай бұрын
I would just like to quote a certain man: "He has jumped the mother fucking shark." -Kenny Omega
@gqn2
@gqn2 3 ай бұрын
4 stars is the minimum Dave thinks the Bucks would accept.
@dougdaniels1242
@dougdaniels1242 3 ай бұрын
Brian you cant talk about Dave grading on a curve when you do the same thing when the match involves someone from New York. The Willow/Stat match had TWO from NY, so, of course you're jacking all over it.
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
Also why Eddie Kingston has always got a free pass despite being one of the worst for Indy shit on AEW.
@rinehart7753
@rinehart7753 3 ай бұрын
What was the star rating for Mone's match?
@JoeMercersWay
@JoeMercersWay 3 ай бұрын
That Dave review and giving the match negative 3 stars would have been what a man with morals and a backbone would have done, even if it cost him subscribers. He has fuelled this descent into disgrace by pandering to the numbskulls from day 1, instead of condemning them fpr what they are like Jim does. This PPV was disgusting and in any normal, sane world, AEW wouldn't be allowed to air another show until they agreed to stop doing this hokey BS.
@joshuafrederich
@joshuafrederich 3 ай бұрын
Dave has given out more 5* matches in this decade so far (99) than he had in the 80s and 90s combined (89).
@prickyboi7
@prickyboi7 3 ай бұрын
And it’s like 4 years in
@elite_artist351
@elite_artist351 3 ай бұрын
Why are we still concerned or entertaining Meltzer’s rating? It’s no secret he’s biased, and his taste is clearly whatever yeah AEW produces.
@DamnMixes
@DamnMixes 3 ай бұрын
Meltzer is a nobody in professional wrestling business. He wasn't a wrestler, nor a booker, he's just an internet personality, a nerd who writes whatever he likes. So many guys working in professional wrestling have mocked this guy over the years, he's become a complete joke.
@televiper11
@televiper11 3 ай бұрын
“Three Falcon Arrows for a near-fall.” That joins the long line of former finishers that now has lost all meaning
@schnarfschnarf5886
@schnarfschnarf5886 3 ай бұрын
The acclaimed and iron savage obviously have heat with the Cucamonga kids
@GregHuffman1987
@GregHuffman1987 3 ай бұрын
damn brian is outta the news/current events loop
@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS
@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS 3 ай бұрын
It was the Saturday after next before their ALL OUT review came out.
@GenXeroFilms
@GenXeroFilms 3 ай бұрын
"Canton, Ohio is where it was." Hey! Let me know where, so I can go take pictures.
@docproc144
@docproc144 3 ай бұрын
Meltzer and AEW fans act like Will Ospreay is the greatest pro wrestler on the planet man I swear. Sure he can do a bunch of kicks and flips, but that doesn’t automatically make a great wrestler. There’s layers to it. A bunch of kicks and flips mean nothing if you’re in a shit feud in a shit promotion. A bunch of kicks and flips mean nothing if you’re mediocre on the mic, bruv. There’s no depth to anything Ospreay does, it has no meaning, it’s all style no substance. Part of wrestling is telling a story, it’s what draws people in and keeps them coming back. If you’re in a baseless feud, then the fact that you can do a triple 360 Lionsault or whatever is pointless, you’re just going out there and doing it just to do it at that point. There’s a big difference between Ospreay and the guys that are considered the greats. Bret Hart made you feel something, Shawn Michaels made you feel something, Kurt Angle made you feel something, etc. Every move they made was deliberate in furthering the overall narrative of the match, they were great workers that could tell a story in the ring. Ospreay makes you feel nothing, everything he does just seems like he’s going out there and saying, “Look at me! Look what I can do!”
@patrickwilliams6143
@patrickwilliams6143 3 ай бұрын
So Dave's scale goes upto infinity but the best match he has ever seen got a 7? Dude must really despise pro wrestling. Like he's been hate watching it for 40 fucking years.
@derekfuiten204
@derekfuiten204 3 ай бұрын
Give us chapters to us as references!
@artvandelayRFC
@artvandelayRFC 3 ай бұрын
Metlzer now saying he's been watching older matches and thinks he was being too generous to those matches at the time, after folk were pressing him on twitter. Orton Vs Gunther wasn't as good as Willow Vs Statlander? Hmmm!!! I must've missed a classic lol.
@plannein
@plannein 3 ай бұрын
Tbh neither of those matches was any good to me
@artvandelayRFC
@artvandelayRFC 3 ай бұрын
​@@planneinI enjoyed Orton Vs Gunther. I don't watch AEW, other than some clips of folk I like and clips of the nonsense I can laugh at.
@SamsarasArt
@SamsarasArt 3 ай бұрын
That beginning reminded me of a George Carlin bit about time.
@lovelywaz
@lovelywaz 3 ай бұрын
Uncle Dave in the past: These star ratings are based on my personal taste and opinion. Anyone taking these as goals, accomplishment and milestone is not my fault. Uncle Dave now a days: I personally didn't like or enjoy this match but still here's 4 and half stars! Also, pinky swear I am clearly NOT biased at all.
@dannystaton5386
@dannystaton5386 3 ай бұрын
Greetings from South Carolina 🎉
@adamlee9461
@adamlee9461 3 ай бұрын
No stars ✨️ were harmed in the making of this episode
@robertbonanni8071
@robertbonanni8071 3 ай бұрын
Go compare these ratings to wwe ratings for SS and Berlin show with super hot crowds, logic, and great stories. Punk vs Drew was less than garbage women’s match
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 3 ай бұрын
A match Dave didn’t even like 😂 just blatantly saying it’s AEW they get a higher rating
@dalamar666
@dalamar666 3 ай бұрын
LOL!!! I have had this discussion with people. Next Saturday is the next one we come to. This Saturday is the end of the week.
@MetalJT24
@MetalJT24 3 ай бұрын
Dave "Hello fellow kids" Meltzer
@Hilversumborn
@Hilversumborn 3 ай бұрын
Dave ‘The original Mark’ Meltzer
@ScotisticDad
@ScotisticDad 3 ай бұрын
Angle vs Benoit at Mania 17 was 4 1/4 Angle and Benoit vs Edge and Mysterio- 2/3 falls for the tag titles in 2002 on Smackdown was 4 stars.
@chadberserk1050
@chadberserk1050 3 ай бұрын
I'd throw Angle Vs Taker at No Way Out on that list too. Amazing match that people forget.
@brodyperry1996
@brodyperry1996 3 ай бұрын
Saying Danielson vs Perry “had the fans” more than Ospreay vs PAC is a crazy statement and I love Jim
@ReapFamily
@ReapFamily 3 ай бұрын
Dave is on the fucking payroll. There’s no doubt in my mind. We’ll never hear the truth of it either, because Tony will have him sign an NDA.
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