Jim Cornette on The NWA's Mount Rushmore

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4 жыл бұрын

From Episode 147 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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@cgruthlessorder2548
@cgruthlessorder2548 3 жыл бұрын
Mount Rushmore of NWA Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race , and Lou Thesz. Honorable mention Jack Brisco very underrated wrestler
@csnide6702
@csnide6702 Жыл бұрын
Jack Briscoe ... ! the big Indian from Oklahoma.... in NCAA he had a great hold called the pipewrench - a headlock variation.
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 4 жыл бұрын
Mid to late 1980's WWF Mount Rushmore of Jobbers. "Iron" Mike Sharpe. " The Brooklyn Brawler" Steve Lombardi. Barry Horowitz and SD Jones.
@hkg8788
@hkg8788 4 жыл бұрын
Pete Doherty, Terry Gibbs, Mario Mancini, Steve Gatorwolf
@jdspreest
@jdspreest 4 жыл бұрын
Mario Mancini should be front and center of the Jobber Mt. Rushmore
@rasputingrigori8901
@rasputingrigori8901 4 жыл бұрын
Shame on you for omitting Duane Gill.
@TheSwerveShow
@TheSwerveShow 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@VivaPR21
@VivaPR21 4 жыл бұрын
“From the West Indies, SD ‘Special Delivery’ Jones!” Goddamn I remember that like it was yesterday....
@supmyd00d
@supmyd00d 4 жыл бұрын
It's painful to hear some of these fan emails because it seems a lot of them think wrestling began in the '80s.
@andrecoleman9200
@andrecoleman9200 4 жыл бұрын
@ShadowAngel I agree, Sting? Cena - get real. Blassie alone influenced the business more than these kids know
@tammyforbes2101
@tammyforbes2101 4 жыл бұрын
ShadowAngel actually it did cause that’s when Cable TV went main stream! Before then if you wanted to watch wrestling you had to go to a regional show yourself and watch it. The 80’s came along and cable and changed it al! Vince seen this and knew it was the way of the future. Territory’s began dying off and he just took it al over corporate style! So in a way for most but the hardcore fans it kind of did start in the 80’s for most people. Hulk brought wrestling to the masses!
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 4 жыл бұрын
This ☝
@andrecoleman9200
@andrecoleman9200 4 жыл бұрын
@ShadowAngel Only area I will disagree is wrestling journalists. Journalists do research
@supmyd00d
@supmyd00d 4 жыл бұрын
@@tammyforbes2101 You didn't have to "go" to an event to see wrestling. They aired wrestling on television in nearly every big market. It was just regional across the U.S. (WWWF in the Northeast, Georgia Championship Wrestling in Georgia, Mid-Atlantic in the Carolinas, etc.)
@IanSane
@IanSane 4 жыл бұрын
I'll do some quick math and look up what the longest combined NWA title reigns were. The four longest are Lou Thesz, Ric Flair, Harley Race and Dory Funk Jr. That seems like a good enough Mt. Rushmore to me.
@johneaston918
@johneaston918 4 жыл бұрын
You could put Dusty over Funk
@kevinbrown-ge6sz
@kevinbrown-ge6sz 4 жыл бұрын
This is wrestling, not boxing. Title reigns shouldn't mean everything. Dusty was a bigger star than Dory and probably Harley. Even when Dusty was under contract in Florida in the mid seventies, he could be loaned out to McMahon or the Crocketts and have sell out crowds in those territories.
@loudenkliehr3633
@loudenkliehr3633 4 жыл бұрын
@Joe Greene You're high. Dusty drew in the AWA when he was a heel, Florida, Georgia, Detroit, WWWF/WWF (when they returned to the NWA pre-Titan), Mid Atlantic, MId South, Amarillo, and pre-World Class Dallas. I'm not real good at math but I count more than 1, maybe 2. Messing with you, Joe. As much as Dusty meant to 70s NWA, mainly the Southern territories, so he didn't carry the belt the way Thesz, Race, Funk Jr, and Flair when he got his chance. What I'm saying is that I agree and disagree with both of you.
@tempestfennac9687
@tempestfennac9687 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing due to not being overly familiar with a lot of people who were active at the time (I only got into wrestling in the mid-'90s and I'm guessing none of the US promotions outside of the WWF and WCW aired stuff over here before that point). I can see Jim's point about Buddy Rogers being important but that to be more about how he changed wrestling history rather than the NWA itself.
@Kfowlkes09
@Kfowlkes09 4 жыл бұрын
@@johneaston918 No, you couldn't. Dory and Harley were travelling champs. Dusty wasn't. They were exposed to a much more eclectic audience.
@masterjay7163
@masterjay7163 4 жыл бұрын
NWA Mount Rushmore Lou Thez, Buddy Rodgers, Ric Flair and Harley Race
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Last for bringing up Harley Race. The reason why Teddy Roosevelt is on Mt. Rushmore is because he created the National Parks system which includes Mt. Rushmore.
@bogmon
@bogmon 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the wasteland of America if Teddy doesn’t preserve our public lands. What a visionary. .
@clevelandleathermaker299
@clevelandleathermaker299 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, Teddy Roosevelt wanted to make sure there would be enough animals to kill in the future, and everyone went along with it because if there wasn't any animals he'd start hunting people.
@tylerbushong3452
@tylerbushong3452 Жыл бұрын
Only reason Jefferson’s on it is because of the Louisiana Purchase.
@michaelstagar4254
@michaelstagar4254 Жыл бұрын
To be fair he was the first modern president. TR was the original 20th century president.
@thefinnishchamp
@thefinnishchamp 4 жыл бұрын
Good question, but you can't have WWE Mount Rushmore without Bruno
@rude73dog
@rude73dog 4 жыл бұрын
Kwizera Moses If you don’t drop Colt for the Question mark, asses will be kicked
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 4 жыл бұрын
Bruno is from the regional days not the cable tv era. Sorry but he is not on my list.
@drg5352
@drg5352 4 жыл бұрын
Without Bruno Sammartino, the WWF would have died. He saved the then WWWF in the 60's, then was blackmailed out of retirement in the early 80's to save it from bankruptcy again during the national expansion.
@marcelmoreau2733
@marcelmoreau2733 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Bruno on WWWF Rushmore bu not WWE. Have to consider them as different companies.
@alie6718
@alie6718 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your messages. Growing up in the late 90’s, I was only exposed to the attitude era on forward. However when going back, I’ve gained huge appreciation for 70’s and 80’s nwa and would argue that it even produced better content than what wwf had on at the time. Having said that, it’s difficult to put Cena out of the Mount Rushmore because of his overall run and contribution to the business. Hogan will also be a given. Austin is probably the most popular wrestler of all time specifically within the wrestling fans/community. And finally, I cannot find a way to remove Rocky because he was the perfect package of what the face of wrestling for the mainstream fans would look like as well as his work in such a short run which surpassed 99% of the wrestlers from any era. Having said that, Bruno deserves the recognition as well.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 4 жыл бұрын
She said “tell the youngsters about Terry Funk” but your memory only goes back to Survivor Series 97? Oooooh kkkkk and Sting goes on the WCW Mount Rushmore NOT NWA
@SuperDevolution
@SuperDevolution 4 жыл бұрын
Sting, Flair, NWO (maybe?), Goldberg (maybe?). The Mount Rushmore of WCW is actually a lot harder because they were hot for such a brief period of time that it's hard to judge who belongs on it. Flair and Sting are easy for longevity, but I'm kind of meh on everyone else.
@douglaswilson95
@douglaswilson95 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@cirenosnor5768
@cirenosnor5768 4 жыл бұрын
Goldberg??? C’mon
@natehandford5030
@natehandford5030 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDevolution It would have been Flair, Sting, DDP and Nash. The 80s top guy and the three 90s top guys. Goldberg was getting stale. Some people were chanting Goldberg sucks in the buildings.
@SuperDevolution
@SuperDevolution 3 жыл бұрын
@@natehandford5030 Nash might have booked himself for the spot, but I don't think he was ever big enough on his own. It was a package deal with the NWO. I liked DDP, but I don't think he was one of the 4 most important or biggest guys in company history. Except for the Sting/NWO angle in '97, no one in company history drew more than Goldberg in '98. He was on fire until bad booking did him in too.
@randyshopher7146
@randyshopher7146 4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous George made wrestling viable on tv. Sputnik Monroe was instrumental in bringing black folks into the fold.
@jasperdriver8546
@jasperdriver8546 4 жыл бұрын
Wahoo McDaniel was criminally underrated
@chadk890
@chadk890 4 жыл бұрын
His heel turn was bad ASS.
@jasperdriver8546
@jasperdriver8546 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Crockets missed the boat big-time on a potential wahoo versus flair match at star cade 84 But going with big dust wasn’t bad either
@TranceMasterJack
@TranceMasterJack 2 жыл бұрын
I broke Wahoo's leg! 7
@smartphonerick
@smartphonerick 4 жыл бұрын
love these podcast from cornette..they really make my day easier
@rich19727
@rich19727 4 жыл бұрын
It’s still real to me damnit!
@noahhossman7070
@noahhossman7070 4 жыл бұрын
I have a job where I drive a lot and these podcasts definitely make the time go by.
@blacksmith44
@blacksmith44 4 жыл бұрын
To have a "Mount Rushmore" in the WWF without Bruno Sammartino is just wrong!
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 2 жыл бұрын
Bruno, Hogan, Austin. Cena
@MaxxCoyote
@MaxxCoyote 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 No way Cena goes in over Andre
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxxCoyote You're right. I fucked up
@Whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat
@Whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat Жыл бұрын
@@MaxxCoyote and this is what fucks the whole Rushmore question up lmao
@thegoughandbordenfamily8234
@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Жыл бұрын
@@MaxxCoyote Cena is the poster boy for a crap Era. He goes nowhere near Mt rushmore
@Mr.Majestic77
@Mr.Majestic77 3 жыл бұрын
I think I speak everyone in saying the NWA Mount Rushmore needs to have a much bigger list lol.
@gregbailey8253
@gregbailey8253 4 жыл бұрын
NWA: Lou Thesz Harley Race Ric Flair Dusty Rhodes WWE: Bruno Sammartino Hulk Hogan Steve Austin The Rock
@scottmcginn2169
@scottmcginn2169 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty close to mine, only change is I'd drop out Rock for Taker. Dusty I'd definitely have on there, even when he went north in the 70's and wrestled the series against Superstar Billy Graham in the WWWF he was so over. He travelled and was an NWA stalwart.
@user-uu8up6ki9u
@user-uu8up6ki9u 4 жыл бұрын
NWA is good WWE: Bruno Hogan Taker Shawn Michaels
@RogerLockridge
@RogerLockridge 4 жыл бұрын
I put in Andre instead of Rock but agree on the others.
@vanalbright9868
@vanalbright9868 4 жыл бұрын
We can't forget about Andre the Giant
@madbrowniac7871
@madbrowniac7871 4 жыл бұрын
Greg: You'd have to have The Funks and The Briscos in serious consideration as well. And Jerry Lawler would have a sort of Rushmore Free Agency. Also Gordon Solie definitely merits NWA consideration.B.W.
@SuperDevolution
@SuperDevolution 4 жыл бұрын
When they sculpted the Mount Rushmore, there were only about 30 Presidents at the time. If I'm being honest, most of them were crappy or mediocre, (Nobody's putting Buchanan, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, Tyler, or William Henry Harrison on anything) so it wasn't exactly a tough competition. That's why "Who's on the Mount Rushmore of X" with this level of competition never makes sense to me.
@mike04574
@mike04574 2 жыл бұрын
Adams?
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 Жыл бұрын
The real problem with making a Mt. Rushmore is that everyone thinks it’s the 4 best… Washington represents the birth/founding of the nation Jefferson… the expansion of the nation (Louisiana purchase, manifest destiny) Lincoln… the unity of the nation (holding it together thru civil war and reunification) Roosevelt… the nation becoming a world power (acquired territories, Spanish American War)
@210Dinero
@210Dinero 4 жыл бұрын
WWE: Bruno, Hogan, Austin, Cena NWA: Thesz, Rodgers, Harley, Flair
@wackozackoyt
@wackozackoyt 4 жыл бұрын
This is spot on
@thefranchise2356
@thefranchise2356 4 жыл бұрын
Can't support it. I'd yank Cena and put Rock up there. Rock transcended the business even when he was active and continues to.
@scooobydoo27
@scooobydoo27 4 жыл бұрын
Taker has to be on there.
@bryanmurphy1107
@bryanmurphy1107 4 жыл бұрын
@Joe Greene longevity though, Taker drew serious money over the years and sold s shit tonne of merchandise
@rude73dog
@rude73dog 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Greene Andre was worldwide favorite. Hard to put him in one company
@garyhen2028
@garyhen2028 2 жыл бұрын
In the thumbnail pic.....the 4 faces of corny lol, spot on Travis, well done!
@tyote
@tyote 4 жыл бұрын
Y'know, Corny really looks like Mark Mothersbaugh.
@ricflairslastdoobie7605
@ricflairslastdoobie7605 4 жыл бұрын
Context: Mark Mothersbaugh is an original member of Devo as well as the dude who does soundtracks including Rugrats
@channelynta-yourlocalpubli244
@channelynta-yourlocalpubli244 4 жыл бұрын
YES. HE. DOES.
@je7055
@je7055 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, will never be able to unsee it.
@sammmm87
@sammmm87 4 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing, huge fan of both
@mikelong2756
@mikelong2756 4 жыл бұрын
And I bet your Mark from Markville Mississippi 😂
@jonbaird8835
@jonbaird8835 4 жыл бұрын
Mount Rushmore of NWA? Ric Flair, Terry Funk, Harley Race, and Dusty Rhodes. Sting was GREAT. Once in a generation talent; but Harley Race has GOT to be there.
@shanebagin
@shanebagin 3 жыл бұрын
You have the same Mt. Rushmore as me.
@thomaskia8441
@thomaskia8441 Жыл бұрын
If you dont put Lou Thesz on a NWA Mount Rushmore you are out of your mind
@mike04574
@mike04574 Жыл бұрын
take terry funk out
@EddieHenderson92
@EddieHenderson92 8 ай бұрын
@@mike04574 NO
@sonic-qh7ed
@sonic-qh7ed 6 ай бұрын
harley race is no.1. no doubt.
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade 4 жыл бұрын
The WWF Mt. Rushmore needs to feature Andre as well. So Bruno, Hulk, Andre and Austin.
@christophmatthews4313
@christophmatthews4313 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@mikegatti3349
@mikegatti3349 4 жыл бұрын
Tough to disagree
@ikill4klondikebars
@ikill4klondikebars 4 жыл бұрын
Andre and not Taker?
@bogmon
@bogmon 4 жыл бұрын
Andre carried wrestling into a whole new level. Hogan isnt even Hogan without the Andre match at Wrestlemania. Kids like me grew up watching him on old black and white tvs wrestling three jobbers at a time. It was a glorious freak show
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 4 жыл бұрын
WWF/E : Hogan, Taker, Rock , Austin or Hogan, Andre, Rock Austin Professional Wrestling History: Flair, Rock , Austin, Undertaker
@UnitedForeverWeStand
@UnitedForeverWeStand 4 жыл бұрын
Love the show really has a lot of detail and stories.
@poindexterflex3528
@poindexterflex3528 4 жыл бұрын
Cena is not in any Rushmore conversation at all.
@redpanda3815
@redpanda3815 3 жыл бұрын
Well that’s not true at all the man was a draw for years and had some amazing feuds
@poindexterflex3528
@poindexterflex3528 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpanda3815 Sure he was. Sure he did.
@fearthescarecrow666
@fearthescarecrow666 4 жыл бұрын
Best way to do the Mt Rushmore argument is to do it by decade. 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s and 10s. Cause honestly its always gonna change
@nickonite
@nickonite 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a question for you. Guys like Hogan, Taker, Shawn, and AJ Styles who have been on top in multiple decades. Which decade would you correlate each to.
@shubhamdeshpande6320
@shubhamdeshpande6320 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickonite hogan 80s, taker 90s and 2000s, Shawn 90s, AJ 2010s
@LanceJ.
@LanceJ. Жыл бұрын
@@nickonite AJ styles lol
@EddieHenderson92
@EddieHenderson92 8 ай бұрын
Too much, best way to do it is your pre-1984 territory day wrestlers Mount Rushmore and a separate for the WWF/E guys starting with what Hogan kicked off in 1984.
@trapmontana9440
@trapmontana9440 4 жыл бұрын
The many faces of Jim
@pabsts____3964
@pabsts____3964 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Jim turns into JJ Dillon.
@MrEggplant
@MrEggplant 4 жыл бұрын
Some of Travis Heckel's best work on that art :)
@halfwaydecent6842
@halfwaydecent6842 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandma was such a huge Johnny Weaver fan, if we were watching on TV and Johnny was getting beat up she'd leave the room. lol Got to see Weaver in person a few times at the YMCA gymnasium!
@Briansgate
@Briansgate 4 жыл бұрын
Main problem with people, like the person that sent the mail, only pull from what they saw, or in recent memory. Like Corny said, where was Bruno? Buddy Rodgers? Harley Race? they only picked people withing 30 years of each other. You gotta branch out if you're going to do a list like that.
@jasonnewbery
@jasonnewbery 3 жыл бұрын
Your artist for these videos is amazing lol
@n0m4nic
@n0m4nic 4 жыл бұрын
Mt Rushmore is less a best of but rather a most prominant. Washington was the first president, Jefferson authored the Deceleration of Independence, Lincoln reunified the states, and Roosevelt created the parks system where the monument stands. NWA Lou Thesz- most prominent champion Verne Gagne- Biggest unofficial champion Orville Brown- first champion Buddy Rogers (as far from Thesz as possible)- major gimmick champion WWE Bruno Samartino- first original champion Hulk Hogan- brought wrestling to a mainstream audience Andre The Giant- biggest spectacle champion Stone Cold Steve Austin- initiated the most profitable wrestling period WCW Ric Flair-first champion Sting- the WCW guy champion Ron Simmons- first black champion Hollywood Hogan- NWO champion
@n0m4nic
@n0m4nic 4 жыл бұрын
@@Asfgxff The monument is of the first 130 years and who expanded or preserved the union. Theoretically, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S Grant would be equally applicable. The worst Roosevelt did was get Woodrow Wilson elected, and our textbooks still suffer because of it, but the progressives of the time was far different from what we have today. Hell, their emphasis on muckraking would have a field day with the media we have now, and there would be a firm boot in the ass of big tech right now.
@michakomisarek3885
@michakomisarek3885 4 жыл бұрын
And Corny, I love. And funk you for entartaining me and my wife every week :-). A long-time wrestling fan from Poland:-)
@philiphowell6336
@philiphowell6336 3 жыл бұрын
When I think of NWA I think of Ric Flair, he should definitely be on there.
@sheep1903
@sheep1903 4 жыл бұрын
That picture is tremendous.
@lusterthomas2435
@lusterthomas2435 4 жыл бұрын
I think the guy was thinking about WCW when he mentioned sting.
@victorflores2780
@victorflores2780 4 жыл бұрын
You have to have Verne Gagne for his work prior to the AWA and after.
@DC-hy2rg
@DC-hy2rg Жыл бұрын
That artwork is pure gold.
@antwilder
@antwilder 4 жыл бұрын
Once again the guy that makes the thumbnails need a raise
@gtor2286
@gtor2286 Жыл бұрын
NWA : Ric Flair, Harley Race, Jack Brisco, and Lou Thesz. Honorable mentions to Terry Funk, Dory Funk Jr and Buddy Rogers.
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny Weaver’s forehead looked like one of those old slots you’d insert the coins, in one of those old quarter or nickel machines at the grocery store 🪙
@tobiasfarragut292
@tobiasfarragut292 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Lou, We gotta get Sting 🦂on there
@thomaskia8441
@thomaskia8441 Жыл бұрын
WWE Mount Rushmore: Bruno Sammartino, Hulk Hogan, The Undertaker, John Cena
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 4 жыл бұрын
For me WWF/E: Hogan, Rock, Austin, Undertaker Honorable mentions: Savage, Andre, Cena, Lesnar, HBK, Bret Hart WCW/JCP/GCW: Sting, Flair, Vader, Dusty Honorable mentions: Luger, Steamboat, The Steiners ECW: RVD, Tommy Dreamer, Tazz, The Dudleys Honorable mentions: Sabu, Sandman, Raven, Rhyno TNA/IMPACT : AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe, Sting Honorable mentions: Jeff Hardy, EC3, Bobby Roode, Christian Cage NJPW: Inoki, Muta, Liger, Tanahashi Honorable mentions: Fujanami, Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura ROH: Bryan Danielson, CM Punk, Jay Lethal, Nigel Mcguiness Honorable mentions: Kevin Steen, The Briscoes, The Young Bucks, Adam Cole, Tyler Black Professional Wrestling History: Flair, Austin, Rock, Undertaker Honorable mentions: Dusty, Andre, Hogan, Savage
@DC-wh2yk
@DC-wh2yk 4 жыл бұрын
good list dude only I think I might have Bruno in WWF/E
@chrishickey2151
@chrishickey2151 4 жыл бұрын
Professional Wrestling History - Add Bruno and subtract Rock. Bruno held the belt for 10 years Rock had 8 title Reigns that averaged 45 days each.
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrishickey2151 so what??? This is my list do your own. Rock stays on mine
@sammmm87
@sammmm87 4 жыл бұрын
Lol how does the rock make any of these ? Hes just your favorite wrestler?
@robertsexton2965
@robertsexton2965 4 жыл бұрын
Well you left out the AWA
@stephencraft2618
@stephencraft2618 4 жыл бұрын
All time: Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Bruno Sammartino and Lou Thesz
@blacksmith44
@blacksmith44 4 жыл бұрын
You have to put Sammartino ahead of everyone else, because his reign is longer than theirs!
@kevinp7519
@kevinp7519 4 жыл бұрын
You cant leave out Harley Race
@thomaskia8441
@thomaskia8441 Жыл бұрын
Actually should be: Lou Thesz, Jim Londos, Ric Flair and The Undertaker
@jakubwidlarz
@jakubwidlarz 12 күн бұрын
I'd say the all-time Mount Rushmore of Memphis would be: Sputnik Monroe, Jackie Fargo, Dundee, and Lawler.
@davidlayne4147
@davidlayne4147 4 жыл бұрын
Allie from Toronto, Ontario? Is The Bunny stalking Jim? Maybe she's taking knowledge of real wrestling back to AEW.
@martyc909
@martyc909 4 жыл бұрын
NWA: 1948-1988 Lou Thesz Ric Flair Harley Race Dory Funk Jr. WWF: 1963-2002 (I’m ending WWF in 2002, because after WWF bought WCW and became WWE, it was a different business. Just like we are not adding the Pioneer days pre-1952, the modern era is a different business and harder to compare.) Bruno Sammartino Hulk Hogan Steve Austin Pedro Morales For shits and giggles, the Pioneer Era (kayfab part only, not the half shoot maybe it was a work era pre-1919): Ed Lewis Jim Londos Joe Stecher Gorgeous George
@martyc909
@martyc909 3 жыл бұрын
This might be the most perfect list I’ve ever seen for these Mt. Rushmore questions
@thomaskia8441
@thomaskia8441 Жыл бұрын
Pre 1919 Era would be: Joe Stecher, Frank Gotch, George Hackenscmidt, Martin Burns
@martyc909
@martyc909 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaskia8441 you are right… lol, why did I add Gorgeous George, knowing he’s post-1919.
@thomaskia8441
@thomaskia8441 Жыл бұрын
@@martyc909 maybe cuz you didn’t read your comment properly but also why did you answer your own comment?
@martyc909
@martyc909 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaskia8441 honestly, I think I was responding to someone else who’s comment disappeared, or they were banned or something.
@theoregonguy
@theoregonguy 4 жыл бұрын
These really are impossible lists to finalize, so many wrestlers had different impacts on the business at different times. We can't go on ticket sales, because of arena sizes, and inaccurate reporting for taxes/paydays. There's no way to measure merchandise sales for earlier wrestlers, or attendance for free spot shows either.
@magnusyarbrough5527
@magnusyarbrough5527 4 жыл бұрын
unfortunately we have to work with what we got. i think the only qualifier here would be inflation, market size, and market share. like yeah cena draws tons of dollars nominally, but he was also the guy whenever only wwe existed in terms of national tv on majour networks.
@dominicomegon4714
@dominicomegon4714 4 жыл бұрын
It's not impossible. Just very difficult.
@unchainamv2912
@unchainamv2912 4 жыл бұрын
Harley race is on my nwa rushmore
@jeffreyfreeman4843
@jeffreyfreeman4843 4 жыл бұрын
Bruno, Flair, Hogan and The Rock.
@AGH69
@AGH69 Жыл бұрын
NWA Mount Rushmore writes itself. Surfer Sting, Dark-Haired Sting, Crow Sting and Wolfpac Sting.
@chwenhoou
@chwenhoou 4 жыл бұрын
My brain immediately went to Flair, Harley Race, and Dusty Rhodes for the NWA. But the fourth escapes me.
@Katie_The_Libra
@Katie_The_Libra 4 жыл бұрын
Wwf should be bruno, Hulk, Austin, and Cena
@brewer921
@brewer921 3 жыл бұрын
A better question would be ... What would be your dream promotion -- 10 or so singles wrestlers and 10 or so tag teams?
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 3 жыл бұрын
Harley Race needs to be on there
@itsyoboi9914
@itsyoboi9914 4 жыл бұрын
10/10 for the thumbnail
@SamuelGates-db3jz
@SamuelGates-db3jz 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ma, more Corn please.
@terryengland3212
@terryengland3212 4 жыл бұрын
HARLEY RACE for sure imo!
@siddhanth3044
@siddhanth3044 4 жыл бұрын
Sting on the NWA Rushmore doesn't work. On the WCW Mt. Rushmore, he would be on there first.
@sgtraytango
@sgtraytango 4 жыл бұрын
But then who else would go on it? Vader? Hogan? It wasn't him who turned business around, it was the nWo so maybe Nash or Hall? And then there'd be the later years when the younger wrestlers dominated the locker room, so who'd represent that? Booker T? Scott Steiner? Jeff Jarrett? Rey Mysterio Jr.?
@brianpizza1344
@brianpizza1344 4 жыл бұрын
How the nwa blonde hair sting was more popping than flair at the time
@Assenayo
@Assenayo 4 жыл бұрын
WCW mount Rushmore would be Sting, Flair, Goldberg and unfortunately, Hollywood Hogan
@ADrockstar22
@ADrockstar22 4 жыл бұрын
honorable mention for WWE goes to the Brooklyn Brawler. Longevity count
@douglasrose6660
@douglasrose6660 4 жыл бұрын
Iron mike sharpe
@Kingsc84
@Kingsc84 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to say what about Harley Race. I’m only 36 and don’t know how I remembered in was NWA lol.
@jasonvoorhees6416
@jasonvoorhees6416 3 жыл бұрын
Mr race is that you ? What are you doing?…………… fucking
@jddye9652
@jddye9652 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Flair, Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, and Ole Anderson would be my four.
@RealSasquatchWatch
@RealSasquatchWatch 4 жыл бұрын
so in 40 yrs u would put 4 on there that appear on the same shows?
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 2 жыл бұрын
Buddy Rogers, Rocca, Hogan, Austin, Undertaker, Andre & Bruno. That’s my WWE/WWF Mt Rushmore…Mine has 7, and I don’t think you can do a fair list without all those guys. They were all equally important in their own way, at their own time. I like Jim’s NWA list. Only I would Add on Strangler Lewis. I know he held the original version of the title, but the lineage carried over, & he was behind Thesz for all those important moments. Not to mention his incredible influence on modern day wrestling as we know it today.
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 4 жыл бұрын
Washington - Lou Thesz Jefferson - Bruno Samartino Lincoln - Hulk Hogan Roosevelt - Steve Austin
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 4 жыл бұрын
Hogan is too racist to be Lincoln lol
@CactusInsane
@CactusInsane 4 жыл бұрын
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 you sir made my day 😂😂😂😂
@mikegatti3349
@mikegatti3349 4 жыл бұрын
Good list, I have Andre instead of Austin
@tonyjackson4078
@tonyjackson4078 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put Savage on a Rock n Wtestling era mount Rushmore. I grew up in South Carolina. Boogie Woogie Jimmy Valiant was huge, just like Wahoo McDaniel.
@chadk890
@chadk890 4 жыл бұрын
Mt. Rushmore managers is Heenan, Jimmy Hart, Corny, Lou Albano.
@jmhproductions7335
@jmhproductions7335 4 жыл бұрын
Freddie Blassey
@fivestar1836
@fivestar1836 3 жыл бұрын
Baron Von Raschke vs Johnny Weaver 1978 is a fun clip
@matthewpearlingi3332
@matthewpearlingi3332 4 жыл бұрын
WWE mount rushmore..Undertaker,Austin,Hogan,Bruno..All pillars in the success of that company..
@tevinlandry1885
@tevinlandry1885 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Taker, he's not on that Mt Rushmore. Rock has gotta be on there instead.
@matthewpearlingi3332
@matthewpearlingi3332 4 жыл бұрын
@@tevinlandry1885 I pick undertaker because of he was a star on the wwe roster allmost 30 years.He has respect all through the industry,he drew money for the company for a long long time.The Rock is an icon.But he left the company and became a movie megastar.The Undertaker never left.
@wackozackoyt
@wackozackoyt 4 жыл бұрын
Taker was always A star, but he was never THE star. There are several people I'd put on before taker
@tevinlandry1885
@tevinlandry1885 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewpearlingi3332 great points. I'm not hating on your choices, I love lists like these. It's fun to see which wrestlers and eras fans were most influenced by.
@georges4835
@georges4835 4 жыл бұрын
Love to know who Jim’s Mount Rushmore would be from current wrestlers (apart from mjf)
@jmhproductions7335
@jmhproductions7335 4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Thatcher, MJF, Mance Warner, Teddy Hart
@Search4theYeti79
@Search4theYeti79 4 жыл бұрын
WWE: Sammartino, Hogan, Austin, Rock NWA: Thez, Race, Flair, Rhodes AWA: Gange, Bockwinkle, Lawler, Perfect ECW: Van Damn, Dreamer, Sabu, New Jack
@thomaskrug9277
@thomaskrug9277 4 жыл бұрын
The only changes I would make to this list (with respect to your opinion) would be WWE Undertaker instead of Rock, and ECW Shane Douglas instead of New Jack. But that's just me.
@dominicomegon4714
@dominicomegon4714 4 жыл бұрын
Putting New Jack over Sandman is a ballsy take. lol
@madbrowniac7871
@madbrowniac7871 4 жыл бұрын
ECW: Douglas, Dreamer, Raven, and Taz.B.W.
@thomaskrug9277
@thomaskrug9277 4 жыл бұрын
@@madbrowniac7871 can't believe I forgot Raven or Taz
@bobbeckey6941
@bobbeckey6941 4 жыл бұрын
you take cornette to seriously. were you even alive for bruno? and Lawler? the rock?
@mr10tomidnight
@mr10tomidnight 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette in his heel persona would have himself, Stan Lane, Dennis Condrey, and Bobby Eaton on the NWA Mount Rushmore
@chadk890
@chadk890 4 жыл бұрын
And deserving of it
@jason_008
@jason_008 3 жыл бұрын
I am a long time fan of Mr. Cornette going back to 83/84 when the Midnight Express came to my hometown of San Antonio,Tx in the old Joe & Harry Freeman Colosseum. Who would be on your Mount Rushmore of Texas Wrestlers.(wrestlers from/or based in Texas)
@worldoutreachchristiancent7464
@worldoutreachchristiancent7464 Жыл бұрын
WWWF Mount Rushmore: Buddy Rogers, Bruno Sammartino, The Graham Brothers, Antonino Rocca.
@whitebathroomguy
@whitebathroomguy 3 жыл бұрын
NWA mount Rushmore.. Bill Mulkey, Randy Barber, George South and Thunderfoot...Ray Traylor as a jobber to Tully Blanchard before becoming big bubba Rogers...lol
@bogmon
@bogmon 4 жыл бұрын
How is Andre the Giant not mentioned anywhere. He carried wrestling into the mainstream television era. He was a legendary draw.
@markmelo2779
@markmelo2779 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because he never stayed in one promotion for very long.
@stevew7571
@stevew7571 2 жыл бұрын
got to have Harley Race on that list
@someparts
@someparts 4 жыл бұрын
Got clear to the end but the TDS still there. SAD
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 2 жыл бұрын
NWA - Lou Thesz, Harley Race, Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes. WWE - Bruno, Hogan, Austin, Taker
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 4 жыл бұрын
What about WCW Rushmore? Hollywood Hogan Sting Flair Goldberg?
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t forget about Ed The Strangler Lewis either….That’s why these lists are impossible. Wrestling has been around for too long for just 4 names…
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 4 жыл бұрын
Thez, Flair, Rogers, Race, Jack Brisco
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 4 жыл бұрын
@nw 45 yes ..sorry aboot that...forgive my ignorance as I'm Canadian and we hate excluding anyone eh ...let me swig my Molsons and take a bite of my beaver tail while I think of who I would leave out... I guess the hoser that gets left off would be Brisco eh ?
@LanceJ.
@LanceJ. Жыл бұрын
Lmao @ Sting
@lyricsanonymous9036
@lyricsanonymous9036 3 жыл бұрын
Bruno, Andre, Hogan, Austin Thesz, Brisco, Race, Flair
@Halbared
@Halbared 4 жыл бұрын
Bruno, hulk, Bret and Steve if four is strict but I’d also like Andre and Rock
@nopenottoday8490
@nopenottoday8490 Жыл бұрын
Ric Flair, Terry Funk, Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes
@eugeneturner8666
@eugeneturner8666 4 жыл бұрын
Denny hodge
@timmylong833
@timmylong833 4 жыл бұрын
Kwizera Moses excellent take sir
@guaromiami
@guaromiami Жыл бұрын
If "consistency" is one of the criteria (as the questioner mentioned), then the Undertaker deserves a spot more than Steve Austin.
@Airdathegamer
@Airdathegamer 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wants to see these two commentating on a wrestling match together?
@UnnameableGreviance
@UnnameableGreviance 2 ай бұрын
If you were to have one for who made wrestling what it is today: Toots Mont, Gorgeous George, Riki Dousan, Vincent K. McMahon.
@TheSwerveShow
@TheSwerveShow 4 жыл бұрын
Hogan,Macho,Andre,Flair! You’re Welcome ❤️
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 3 жыл бұрын
ROFLMFAO
@csnide6702
@csnide6702 Жыл бұрын
Ric Flair , Harley Race , then argue about the rest..... for me it's Terry Funk and Jack Briscoe.
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 2 жыл бұрын
How do you have these lists without ANDRE THE GIANT? Harley Race….The Undertaker….Thesz, Rogers, Rocca…
@robfinlay8058
@robfinlay8058 2 жыл бұрын
WWF: Bruno, Hogan, Austin, Rock. NWA: Thesz, Brisco, Race, Flair WCW: Flair, Sting, Hogan, Goldberg AWA: Verne, Crusher, Mad Dog Vachon, Bockwinkel ECW: Terry Funk, Sabu, Sandman, Raven TNA: Jarrett, Styles, Angle, Samoa Joe, ROH: Samoa Joe, Danielson, McGuinness, Jay Lethal
@mrpants5462
@mrpants5462 4 жыл бұрын
Wwe: mantar, phantaso, red rooster, Isaac yankum
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 4 жыл бұрын
Damn no room for Brooklyn Brawler?
@daleharris3809
@daleharris3809 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna include Giant Gonzales but his head would require a separate mountain
@justanotheresperantolearne9246
@justanotheresperantolearne9246 4 жыл бұрын
Jim is right. Teddy did know the sculptor
@nunyabidness7463
@nunyabidness7463 4 жыл бұрын
NWA Lou Thez, Harley Race, Ric Flair have to be on there. 4th is debatable
@gjfwang
@gjfwang Жыл бұрын
People who ask about Mount Rushmore of something are people who would put Sting on it for NWA
@thereal9118
@thereal9118 4 жыл бұрын
Late 70’s - Late 80’s NWA Mt Rushmore of Jobbers: 1. Rocky King 2. Randy Mulkey 3. Snake Brown 4. Bill Mulkey/Mike Jackson/George South/Chick Donovan/Whoever faced the Road Warriors, Abdullah, Brody, Mark Lewin
@chrisalscher4852
@chrisalscher4852 4 жыл бұрын
Gladiator #1
@dimedraweriv258
@dimedraweriv258 4 жыл бұрын
The Italian Stallion , Buddy Lee Parker , Tommy Angel , Barry Horowitz , Reno Riggins , and the Cuban Assassin.
@dimedraweriv258
@dimedraweriv258 4 жыл бұрын
Gene Ligon lol
@thereal9118
@thereal9118 4 жыл бұрын
Libertarian Mind Wow. Great find. Gene Fkn Legion Adding Ron Rossi & my ex neighbor Sgt. Jacques Goulet too
@jasonsager6535
@jasonsager6535 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Randy Barber
@worldoutreachchristiancent7464
@worldoutreachchristiancent7464 Жыл бұрын
NWA Mount Rushmore: Buddy Rogers, Lou Thesz, Ric Flair, Harley Race.
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 4 жыл бұрын
"When I think. Than i must be working for the best and making the most" - Ric Flair
@n4l734
@n4l734 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette is the God of Wrestling!!!! When he dies a piece of wrestling will die with him.
@halwarner3326
@halwarner3326 2 жыл бұрын
It is The Mulkeys , and any two others.
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